TomVH: Matt Wile the Punter

TomVH: Matt Wile the Punter

Submitted by TomVH on August 7th, 2011 at 7:42 PM

Rather than continue tweeting about Matt Wile and his accomplishments as a punter, I'll just post this email his coach sent me. Here are Wile's stats from his senior, junior, and sophomore years as a punter:

Year Punts Yards Average Long Inside 20
2010 40 1447 36.18 54 13
2009 31 1247 40.23 61 6
2008 16 586 36.63 54 6

Here is a video of him in 2010 at a kicking camp. He kicks five balls and averages 51.2 yards. Probably the most recent data of his abilities. He was also the punter during the Army All American game.

You can make your own assumptions or come to your own conclusions about this information.

Stonum will redshirt

Stonum will redshirt

Submitted by aaamichfan on August 7th, 2011 at 6:42 PM


Interesting. I know this was discussed in the below thread, but figured it could use its own. I think this is the only way Hoke can keep him on the team while still being firm on his punishment.

Also, I hope this means the WR situation is better than we originally thought.

Will Hagerup suspended four games, Terrence Robinson one.

Will Hagerup suspended four games, Terrence Robinson one.

Submitted by MattC87 on August 7th, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Per Stephen J. Nesbitt's Twitter...


 punter Will Hagerup and wide receiver Terrence Robinson will be out four games for violation of team rules. (via @freepwolverines)


EDIT: Changed the thread title for updated details.

Player You're Most Excited About This Season?

Player You're Most Excited About This Season?

Submitted by Dilla Dude on August 7th, 2011 at 6:15 PM

It's a really slow day so I thought  this might spark up some conversation.


Which player are you most excited to see take the field this year?


A returning player like Denard or Mike Martin adapting to a new scheme??

Maybe a player like Big Will finally proving his worth as a 5-star talent??

Or even a freshman like Jake Ryan or Antonio Poole finding ways to contribute early??


I'm so stoked for this coming year!! I would love to read your thoughts and opinions.

Big Ten Recruiting Class Rankings 8-7-11

Big Ten Recruiting Class Rankings 8-7-11

Submitted by Tim on August 7th, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Action since last rankings:

7-26-11 Minnesota gains commitment from Rodrick Williams Jr.
8-1-11 Purdue gains commitment from Jonathan Curry.
8-3-11 Minnesota loses commitment from Andre McDonald. Notre Dame gains commitment from Sheldon Day.
8-5-11 Iowa gains commitment from Laron Taylor. Purdue gains commitment from Anthony Brown. Illinois gains commitment from Zach Jackson.

Chart? Chart:

Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings
Rank School # Commits Rivals Avg Scout Avg ESPN Avg 24/7 Avg
1 Michigan 21 3.38 3.62 3.43 3.48
2 Notre Dame 13 3.31 3.77 3.46 3.46
3 Ohio State 11 3.27 3.45 3.18 3.36
4 Michigan State 13 3.15 3.15 3.08 3.15
5 Penn State 13 3.00 3.15 3.00 2.77
6 Wisconsin 8 3.13 3.38 3.00 2.88
7 Indiana 15 2.27 2.80 2.71 2.53
8 Northwestern 13 2.62 2.69 2.38 1.92
9 Minnesota 17 2.29 2.35 2.13* 1.82
10 Nebraska 5 3.40 3.40 3.40 3.80
11 Iowa 9 3.00 3.00 3.00 2.89
12 Purdue 11 2.45 2.18 2.40 2.00
13 Illinois 7 2.00 2.71 2.29 2.14

*ESPN doesn't rate JUCOs, so Isaac Fruechte is not included in Minnesota's average, Darius Stroud doesn't count against Indiana's average, and Steffon Martin is excluded from Purdue's.

On to the full data:

#1 Michigan - 21 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Kyle Kalis OL OH 4 5 4 4
Royce Jenkins-Stone LB MI 4 4 4 4
James Ross LB MI 4 4 4 4
Joe Bolden LB OH 4 4 4 4
Terry Richardson CB MI 4 4 4 4
Erik Magnuson OL CA 4 4 4 4
Jarrod Wilson S OH 4 4 4 4
Tom Strobel DE OH 4 4 3 4
Pharaoh Brown DE OH 4 3 3 4
Blake Bars OL TN 4 3 3 3
Devin Funchess TE MI 3 4 4 4
Chris Wormley DE OH 3 4 4 4
Mario Ojemudia DE MI 3 4 4 3
Kaleb Ringer LB OH 3 4 3 3
Matt Godin DE MI 3 3 3 4
Ben Braden OL MI 3 3 3 3
Anthony Standifer CB IL 3 3 3 3
Caleb Stacey OL OH 3 3 3 3
Allen Gant S OH 3 3 3 3
AJ Williams TE OH 3 3 3 3
Sione Houma FB UT NR 3 2 NR

Sione Houma up to three stars on Scout.

#2 Notre Dame - 13 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Ronald Darby CB MD 4 5 4 4
Tee Shepard CB CA 4 5 4 4
Sheldon Day DT IN 4 5 4 4
Deontay Greenberry WR CA 4 4 4 4
Taylor Decker OL OH 4 4 3 4
David Perkins LB IN 3 4 4 4
Nick Baratti S TX 3 4 3 3
CJ Prosise S VA 3 4 3 3
Justin Ferguson WR FL 3 3 4 3
Mark Harrell OL NC 3 3 4 3
Romeo Okwara DE NC 3 3 3 4
John Turner S IN 3 3 3 3
Scott Daly LS IL 2 2 2 2

Sheldon Day selects the Irish. Scott Daly gets a 2-star rating from 24/7 Sports, and Deontay Greenberry gets his fourth from ESPN.

#3 Ohio State - 11 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Bri'onte Dunn RB OH 4 5 4 4
Joshua Perry LB OH 4 4 4 4
Warren Ball RB OH 4 4 3 4
De'Van Bogard S OH 4 4 3 4
Pat Elflein OL OH 3 3 4 3
Jacoby Boren OL OH 3 3 3 4
Frank Epitropoulos WR OH 3 3 3 3
Blake Thomas TE OH 3 3 3 3
Luke Roberts LB OH 3 3 3 2
Tyvis Powell S OH 3 3 2 3
Najee Murray CB OH 2 3 3 3

Luke Roberts moves up to three stars on Scout.

#4 Michigan State - 13 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Se'Von Pittman DE OH 4 4 4 4
Aaron Burbridge WR MI 4 4 4 4
Benny McGowan OL OH 3 3 4 3
Tyler O'Connor QB OH 3 3 3 4
Riley Bullough LB MI 3 3 3 3
Zach Higgins OL OH 3 3 3 3
Jamal Lyles LB MI 3 3 3 3
Josiah Price TE IN 3 3 3 3
Nick Tompkins RB GA 3 3 3 3
Kyle Kerrick WR PA 3 3 3 3
MacGarrett Kings WR FL 3 3 3 3
Jermaine Edmondson S OH 3 3 3 2
Evan Jones TE OH 3 3 NR 3

No change for the Spartans.

#5 Penn State - 13 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Camren Williams LB MA 4 4 4 4
JJ Denman OL PA 4 4 4 4
Joey O'Connor OL CO 4 4 4 3
Brent Wilkerson DE MD 4 3 3 4
Brian Gaia OL MD 3 3 4 3
Skyler Mornhinweg QB PA 3 3 4 3
Anthony Stanko OL OH 3 3 3 3
Nyeem Wartman LB PA 3 3 3 3
Jesse James TE PA 3 3 3 3
Austin Johnson OL NJ 3 3 NR NR
Jake Kiley CB NH 2 3 2 NR
Derek Dowrey DT VA 2 2 3 NR
JP Holtz TE PA NR 3 NR 3

Jake Kiley gets three stars from Scout, along with Jesse James and Austin Johnson moving up from two stars.

#6 Wisconsin - 8 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Dan Voltz OL IL 4 4 4 4
Vince Biegel LB WI 4 4 4 4
Kyle Dodson OL OH 4 4 3 4
Vonte Jackson RB WI 4 4 3 4
Bart Houston QB CA 3 4 4 4
Hugs Etienne CB CA 3 2 3 NR
Reggie Mitchell CB PA 2 2 NR NR
Arthur Goldberg DT PA NR 3 2 NR

Arthur Goldberg moves up to three stars on Scout.

#7 Indiana - 15 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Gunner Kiel QB IN 4 5 4 5
Nick Mangieri DE IL 3 3 3 3
Dan Feeney OL IL 3 3 3 3
Jordan Wallace LB IN 3 3 3 3
Kevin Davis WR IN 3 3 3 3
Adam Kranda TE IN 3 3 3 3
Wes Rogers OL IN 3 3 3 3
Mike Cotton LB IL 3 3 3 3
Jason Spriggs TE IN 2 3 3 3
Jacob Bailey OL IN 2 2 3 3
Caleb Cornett WR IN NR 3 2 2
Tanner Kearns TE OH NR 3 2 NR
Alex Todd OL OH NR 2 2 NR
Dawson Fletcher S OH NR 2 NR NR
Darius Stroud LB KS NR NR JC NR

Cornett and Fletcher pick up rankings from Scout.

#8 Northwestern - 13 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Adam DePietro OL PA 3 3 3 3
Dean Lowry DE IL 3 3 3 3
Kenton Playko OL OH 3 3 3 3
Eric Olson OL MA 3 3 3 3
Jack Schwaba TE PA 3 3 3 2
Ian Park OL PA 3 3 3 NR
Malin Jones RB IL 3 3 2 3
Mike McHugh WR PA 3 2 2 NR
Dwight White CB TX 3 2 2 NR
Connor Mahoney OL PA 2 3 3 NR
Dan Vitale S IL 2 2 2 2
Joseph Jones S PA 2 2 NR NR
Chris Fitzpatrick OL KY NR 2 NR NR

McHugh and White are rated as 2-stars by Scout. Olson moves up to three stars on that service, as well.

#9 Minnesota - 17 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Jonah Pirsig OL MN 3 4 3 4
Isaac Hayes OL MN 3 3 4 3
Philip Nelson QB MN 3 3 2 3
Jack Lynn LB IL 3 3 2 3
Dinero Moss S FL 3 2 3 3
Dominic Twitty DT NJ 3 2 3 3
Brian Nicholson LB FL 3 2 2 NR
Jordan Hinojosa DT FL 3 2 NR NR
Mitch Leidner QB MN 2 3 2 NR
Drew Davis LB NC 2 2 3 NR
Samad Hinds TE FL 2 2 3 NR
Josh Ballesteros LB FL 2 2 2 2
Eric Murray CB WI 2 2 NR NR
Scott Ekpe DT TX 2 2 NR NR
Maxx Williams TE MN NR 3 NR NR
Isaac Fruechte WR MN NR 2 JC NR
Rodrick Williams RB TX NR NR NR NR

Rivals considers Andre McDonald's on-again off-again relationship with the Gophers to be in the off-again phase at this point. The Gophers did pick up RB Rodrick Williams Jr. Leidner and Lynn moved up to three stars on Scout. Hinds and Murray picked up two star ratings from Scout. Philip Nelson moved down to two stars on ESPN.

#10 Nebraska - 5 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Paul Thurston OL CO 4 4 4 4
Greg McMullen DE OH 4 4 3 4
Michael Rose LB MO 3 3 4 4
Jordan Westerkamp WR IL 3 4 3 4
Sam Cotton TE NE 3 2 3 3

Scout downgrades Michael Rose to a 3-star. No further changes for Nebraska.

#11 Iowa - 9 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Jaleel Johnson DT IL 4 4 4 4
Ryan Ward OL IL 4 3 4 3
Maurice Fleming CB IL 3 3 4 3
Cameron Wilson WR OH 3 3 3 3
Mitch Keppy OL IL 3 3 2 3
Michael Malloy RB IA 3 3 2 3
Drew Ott DE NE 3 2 3 3
Laron Taylor LB MI 2 3 3 3
Connor Kornbrath K WV 2 3 2 NR

Mitch Keppy picks up a 3-star rating from 24/7 Sports. Keppy and Malloy up to three stars on Scout.

#12 Purdue - 11 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Jordan Shine S IN 3 3 3 3
Ryan Morris TE NJ 3 3 3 3
Austin Appleby QB OH 3 3 3 3
Jonathan Curry TE AL 3 3 2 3
Andy Garcia LB FL 3 2 2 2
BJ Knauf WR FL 3 NR 2 NR
Anthony Brown CB FL 3 NR NR NR
Paul Griggs K NC 2 3 3 NR
Thomas Meadows K VA 2 NR 2 NR
Jimmy Herman S IN NR 3 2 3
Steffon Martin LB AZ NR NR JC NR

Boilers pluck 3-star tight end Jonathan Curry from Alabama, continuing the weird theme of having the most national recruiting class (sorry, Mark Dantonio). Jimmy Herman picks up a third star from Scout. Thomas Meadows gets two stars from ESPN.

#13 Illinois - 7 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Tajarvis Fuller LB FL 3 3 3 3
Elliot Faerber WR KS 3 3 2 NR
Cody Quinn CB OH 3 3 NR 3
Jason Robertson WR IL 2 3 3 3
Zach Jackson S FL NR 3 3 NR
Joey Warburg OL KY NR 2 3 NR
Joseph Spencer OL OH NR 2 NR 3

Illini pick up Zach Jackson. Spencer gets a third star on Scout.

Is Hoke negatively recruiting?

Is Hoke negatively recruiting?

Submitted by Gobluegr on August 7th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
No, Brady Hoke is not. And while most people on this blog already knew this, there has been some people that beg to differ. In a recent interview of Kyle Kalis by Sporting News, Kalis said this about how Hoke recruited him “People think that he does all of this negative recruiting, but he does no such thing. Any time my dad brought up anything about Ohio State, coach would actually stop him and say ‘I’m not going to say anything about that situation. It’s unfortunate and I hope they can get over this hump.’ " If you would like to read the full article (relatively short) here is the link:…

Was Barwis the best part of RR era?

Was Barwis the best part of RR era?

Submitted by AC1997 on August 7th, 2011 at 11:17 AM

It seems almost strange to have an off-season without a love-fest for the strength and conditioning coach after the past three years.  Barwis may have been the most rewarding aspect of the Rodriguez coaching staff - both for the program and those of us that enjoyed reading tales of his workouts these past three years.

I was once again reminded of this when I picked up my Chicago Tribune today.   Every Sunday the columnist Teddy Greenstein (known to the MGoBlog community for his insane coaching search rumors) recounts a round of golf he played the past week with a famous sports personality or athlete.  This week his golf partner was none other than Charles Woodson. 

In the piece Woodson expresses his love for Michigan and is generally positive.  But what stood out to me was this shocking quote about former S&C coach Mike Gittleson:

"The philosophy of my strength coach at Michigan (Mike Gittleson) was 'No stretching,'"  Woodson recalled.  "If you're walking across the street and a car is going to hit you, will you stop to stretch?"

It is pretty amazing to me that this guy lasted as long as he did in the S&C field with this type of philosophy.  And it may also be a clue as to why the fitness of the team deteriorated over the last few seasons under Carr.,0,7197108.column

Body Mass Index of Michigan vs. the B1G

Body Mass Index of Michigan vs. the B1G

Submitted by Sextus Empiricus on August 7th, 2011 at 2:54 AM

Since there isn’t much sexy in the fall roster updates (so far at least…despite Denard and co. anecdotally touting the gains of the guys upfront in the B1G presser) I thought I’d look at the roster info and see if I could represent the data in a different way. 

Body Mass Index (BMI) came to mind – as both an indicator of fitness and body type.  In this diary I’m looking at BMI and trying to see what this might indicate for 2011 in the B1G using the results from last year.  

Here’s how BMI is calculated along with an explanation (thanks to Wikipedia)…

The body mass index (BMI), or Quetelet index, is a heuristic proxy for human body fat based on an individual's weight and height. BMI does not actually measure the percentage of body fat. It was invented between 1830 and 1850 by the Belgian polymath Adolphe Quetelet during the course of developing "social physics". Body mass index is defined as the individual's body weight divided by the square of his or her height. The formulae universally used in medicine produce a unit of measure of kg/m2.



So what I’m proposing is looking at muscle/fat per square inch. It’s going to be similar to just looking at weight but not quite. In addition I’m going to look at the entire B1G plus ND.  Here we go…

I went to each school’s website and pulled their roster and went about computing muscle (or fat as the case may be) per square inch.  I thought I was doing everyone a service by pulling directly from the source.  It didn’t turn out that way…here’s what I got…



Starting with this variability chart…

You may ask why the heck the schools are ordered like this left to right. I’d like to say it is the leaders on the left, the legends on the right and ND in the middle. But it’s nothing as nonsensical as that. I’ll get back to this. But first…a few comments…

Std Dev. doesn’t play much of  a factor here wrt Avg team BMI.

The green diamonds are mean diamonds. They are useful (to me at least) to see if distributions have significant differences. Two distributions are significantly different (p<0.05) when the diamonds do not overlap…i.e. NU is significantly more puerile than Penn State. I say puerile but BMI is not a measure of manliness necessarily…is it? [Ed-M: gracile/robust perhaps? #anthrobionerdiness]

What might the mean differences indicate…it could be team fitness…it could be style of team play…it could be roster management…it’s definitely all these things and more.

So what does Avg. team BMI have to do with being good at football?

BMI in a traditional sense signifies four body types. 

  1. Underweight
  2. Normal
  3. Overweight
  4. Obese

Roughly broken out like this chart.


In Football the vast majority of any team is at least overweight on this scale.  Per the chart above the average B1G player is nearly obese (29.6).  Football players don’t play by these rules however (actually this is sadly not the case –


- but I am not going there right now. Suffice to say – don’t let your BMI get out of control and/or if you must…then lose it when you quit playing or suffer the consequences.) 

Since the 60’s at least we have seen larger and larger men take up football.  BMI has risen along with these weights.


1969???…I guess Bo started this issue…

Anyway…not all BMI is good for football.

                  This                          does not equal                           This

terrence-cody-weigh-in                                      Jake_Long-3

But then again…one of these guys carried this off the field on his final college game.


While the other guy carried this…long may he not shave


So what does BMI have to do with being good at football? I guess the best way to look at that would be BMI vs. Wins…


Hmm… let’s regress for a few moments…


OK…so there’s no significant correlation (p<.05) but it’s not like there is nothing going on here. Still it’s not worth extrapolating moments to 2011.

I took a look at some of the names behind the dots…(sorry for the small type…I can’t fix that evidently with this software.)


Ash and Campbell are outliers for Michigan. Relative to other DL types like Nix Jeremiah and Hankins they aren’t so out of control however. Ragoo is simply a very large person.  Position group is a factor here however – which is reasonable.

Here’s the breakdown by position (again for the B1G+ND)…


I kept many of the same labels…

Hemingway is a different body type altogether than the rest of the B1G receivers.

Ragoo and Cully are interesting.  Both are significant outliers for their position group. Where you might think that Ragoo is a (6’7” 391 lb) Terrence Cody-type lineman (there are no OMG shirtless search happy images of him to compare) Cully is a 5’1.5” 197 lb frosh for Penn State whose team photo is pretty revealing…

Johnathan Ragoo (OL – Minn)           Jeff Cully (DB – Penn State)

Jonathon Ragoo            Jeff Cully

As stated before Ragoo is huge. Cully is tiny. Both are BMI kings of their position group. Cully is MAC-sized. Cully is stubby legged. Cully is a walk-on (I presume at least.) 

This brings up a dataset issue. I pulled everyone on each teams' roster when I imported the data off the Web. I wanted the best comparison possible, but when I went to each team's website roster I found them in various formats and protocols. Penn State does not list redshirts. The position groups have different nomenclature school to school. Nebraska (don’t get me started on Nebraska) had 152 players on their roster. Notre Dame only had 78.

WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot Nebraska. They are an orange to the B1G apple…

I leveled the rosters by position and threw all redshirts with their graduating classes. I did not ferret out the walk-ons or separate the projected starters (it was simply too much work.)

Here’s the offensive line data for the B1G.  This is clearly the most significant of position groups.


Taylor Lewan is bottom of the group for Michigan. This is likely a sign of fitness on his part (and Schofield and Gunderson for that matter) [Ed-M: Lewan was also a project recruit who started football later than most][Ed-TSS: Glasgow is a project as well yet is above the mean for the subset of Michigan OL].

Frederick for Wisconsin is in the top of his group. This is likely an equal if opposite sign of fitness on his part. This is clear when looking at the same chart versus weight. Here’s that data:


When you look at weight alone Lewan/Schofield and Gunderson pull up to middle of the pack. Frederick falls down into the mid distribution. This isn’t true for other laggards like Flavin and Tansey or for Ragoo who are still kings of both charts.

Sorry again for the labels …

Though overall BMI for OL correlates well for 2010 Wins (p<0.06) – the Std Dev. of the BMI data correlates even better (p<.016). Using both with a weighted leverage to model the wins brings the p<.0155. 


Again the labeling issue. Mich and Penn State are overwriting each other here.

Here’s a graph of the residuals; this doesn’t overwrite if I stretch it enough.


Teams above the line outperformed the model; teams below did worse than expected.

In 2010 the biggest OLs with the tightest distribution of BMI won more games. Not a huge insight but insight non the less. Basketball on grass was not working last year.

The good news for Michigan is that the incoming class of OL is the BMIiest in the entire conference. Adding those numbers to the previous charts gives Michigan a considerable bump in beef.


Posada and Bryant have identical BMI. Yerden and Williams at too close to label simultaneously but the difference is pretty stark vs the previous chart. This new class is a different kind of beast.

I’m not saying this new class of OL are going to be the difference between winning or not this coming year (I would like them all to red shirt if possible), but our offensive line is looking good with respect to muscle fitness and incoming beef.

Thought I’d share some data. First time diary. Must go to sleep now. Go Blue!