Elite 11 Day 5 Open Thread

Elite 11 Day 5 Open Thread

Submitted by Leaders And Best on July 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Last day of Elite 11 competition. Shane Morris still has not been able to break into the coaches' rankings despite glowing reviews from various recruiting analysts observing the on-field portion of the competition.

Final day of competition includes red zone and 2 minute drill work. Get it done Shane.

Reached the final day. Red Zone 7on7 & Pressure Cooker 2 minute drill. #Elite11

Shane standing out in his Elite 11 Golden Gun Accuracy jersey:


Third set of Elite 11 Coaches' rankings released this morning:

1. Greenlee
2. Browne
3. Goff
4. Hackenberg
5. Woulard
6. Stanton
7. Del Rio
8. Dobbs
9. Williams
10. Cockerville
11. Zaire

NCAA source: unprecedented penalties against Penn State Monday

NCAA source: unprecedented penalties against Penn State Monday

Submitted by Leaders And Best on July 22nd, 2012 at 9:24 AM
Not sure what this means, but if they are announcing it without a letter of inquiry, it probably means Penn State administration and AD is in agreement. I am guessing a fine or profits donated to charity with no TV ban or death penalty.

NCAA source tells CBS News athletic assn. will announce "unprecedented" penalties against Penn State, football team http://cbsn.ws/QnwOzy


NCAA to hold press conference on #PennState Mon at 9 a.m. ET. Live coverage from @InsidetheNCAA & web stream link avail tmrw.


- Reports that PSU will not fight the penalties. Points to deal between PSU and NCAA.

Bruce Feldman @BFeldmanCBS

RT @djoneshoop PennSt will NOT appeal NCAA's decision, I've been told. Speed of decision/lack of contention pts to a deal betw NCAA & PSU


- Yahoo Sports NCAA Angel of Death Charles Robinson reporting penalty of multiple bowls and crippling scholarship losses.

Charles Robinson @CharlesRobinson

Penn State penalty: multiple bowls, crippling scholarship losses & NCAA Prez is levying it w/ no in-house investigation http://tinyurl.com/btmywbn


- CBS Sports reporting massive fine in penalty.

@McMurphyCBS: Penn State will be fined b/w $30 million to $60 million, sources told @CBSSports http://cbsprt.co/O8tNRq

Elite 11 Day 4 Open Thread

Elite 11 Day 4 Open Thread

Submitted by MichiganMan2424 on July 21st, 2012 at 3:21 PM

The final day of the Elite 11 is today, from 3-10 PM Eastern time. As always, post any updates you find along with normal discussion.

I'm also going to put some reviews in the OP that I haven't seen posted so far.



Davis Webb- Webb’s appearance off the field is deceiving, but once he’s in live action the Texas Tech commit shows a willingness and confidence to take chances and make high level plays.

Honorable Mention: Shane Morris, Riley Ferguson

Strongest Arm

Shane Morris- Morris’ arm strength was a well known commodity coming into this event, but that doesn’t diminish the fact that he has the best arm in attendance. At times the velocity on his ball rivals that of some of the college counselors.

Honorable Mention: Asiantii Woulard, Christian Hackenberg


JT Barrett- Quickness in drops, decision-making, and getting rid of the ball is the primary difference between the high school participants and college counselors. Barrett has shown he’s among the fastest in those areas through three days of action.

Honorable Mention: Shane Morris


And then from this thread on 247, per JC Shurburtt;

"We think the top five "performers" at this particular event (based on what we've seen) are in no order...

Asiantii Woulard
Shane Morris
Joshua Dobbs
Kevin Olsen
Max Browne"

"Prospect-wise, we think...

1- Max Browne
2- Shane Morris
3- Christian Hackenberg
4- JT Barrett
5- Kevin Olsen"


Greg Webb decommits from Penn State and commits to UNC

Greg Webb decommits from Penn State and commits to UNC

Submitted by MichiganMan2424 on July 21st, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Per Mike Farrell's twitter;

Mike Farrell @rivalsmike

Just got a text from his father that Greg Webb has de committed from #PennState and has committed to #unc

Webb is a 4 star DT, and the first player to decommit from PSU since the Freeh report. Be interesting to see if any more follow suit.

OT: The underbelly of CFB recuiting - good read

OT: The underbelly of CFB recuiting - good read

Submitted by ChicagoB1GRed on July 21st, 2012 at 12:08 PM

with recruiting being one of the few active CFB topics this time of year, thought everyone would enjoy reading this article from Texas Monthly exploring the seamier side of the process, especially the role of street agents and 7-on-7's.

Excerpts and then the link:

It wasn’t until three or four years ago ... that high school football was going the way of high school basketball. Basketball has long been overshadowed by the AAU, a league in which a high schooler often plays for different coaches and with different teammates. AAU coaches become so influential, it’s argued, that they manage the recruitment of players as their de facto agents.

The rise of 7-on-7’s has given Texas football its own shadow league, conducted outside the purview of high school and college coaches. “That’s when the kids are vulnerable. Especially the kids who don’t have very much money, maybe have parents who don’t understand what’s going on at home as much. They’re more vulnerable to someone who would try to come in and help them.” Mack Brown doesn’t just fear a shakedown. He fears a crack-up of the relationship between a player and his high school coach.

The real source of evil—the thing college football fans should fear—is the NCAA’s system of amateurism. It’s college football that puts a seventeen-year-old at an impossible disadvantage....In college recruiting, amateurism is a pair of handcuffs reserved for the person who needs help the most. The scary part isn’t that a seventeen-year-old football player would get himself an agent. The scary part is that, these days, he probably needs one.


Elite 11 - Day 3

Elite 11 - Day 3

Submitted by Leaders And Best on July 20th, 2012 at 7:31 PM

The Elite 11 Coaches released their initial rankings through 3 days of competition this evening, and it's kind of surprising considering the reports that were coming from the recruiting websites.

From Brian Stumpf twitter:

1. Johnny Stanton #Cornhuskers

2. Zack Greenlee #uncommitted

3. Malik Zaire #Irish

4. Jared Goff #Cal

5. DeVante Kincade #OleMiss

6. Davis Webb #TexasTech

7. Max Browne #FightOn #USC

8. Luke Del Rio #OkState

9. Christian Hackenberg #PennState

10. Riley Ferguson #Vols

11. Shane Cockerille. #Maryland

No Shane Morris, Brice Ramsey, Cooper Bateman, Kevin Olsen, Danny Etling, or JT Barrett. Competition continues this evening.