Rivals: Norfleet expected to return to offense

Rivals: Norfleet expected to return to offense

Submitted by MH20 on February 20th, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Sounds like our favorite scatback is headed back to offense.  From a Rivals spring preview article found here ($), I give you the money quote:

 

"He's supposedly going back to offense," Blackwell [ed: Norfleet's 7-on-7 coach] said. "They will use him in the slot and in the return game, and some as a running back. Coach [Greg] Mattison is saying he can still use him on defense and is making an argument to keep him there, but Dennis' passion is for the offense. That's where he wants to play, and from talking to Dennis it appears that's where he's going to play.

 

The rest of the article basically describes why Norfleet went to defense in the first place (potential for PT in the bowl game) and that offense is his true passion (duh).  It also highlights his need to beef up his blocking and grasp of the playbook in order to see the field more.

Brian is going to cry tears of joy.

Zolioke 2013 Presented by Zoltan Mesko Foundation

Zolioke 2013 Presented by Zoltan Mesko Foundation

Submitted by ZoltanMeskoFou… on February 19th, 2013 at 6:19 PM

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Tim North here from Zoltan Mesko Foundation.  I wanted to let you all know that we just announced details for ZoliOke 2013 for June 8, 7-10pm at Royale (Boston, MA).  We are still going through some of the legal work before we can release the partnering children's hopsitals that we will be benfitting, but we will be announcing shortly via our social media (as well as an update on this thread).  I know that many of you will not be able to attend the event, but if you would still like to make a donation to Zoltan Mesko Foundation I have provided a link below.

Thanks again to our outstanding Michigan community for your ongoing support, and please do not hesitate to post questions or e-mail me directly: [email protected]

Go Blue!

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QB Commit Wilton Speight: Accepts Invitation to ESPN Under Armour All-American Game

QB Commit Wilton Speight: Accepts Invitation to ESPN Under Armour All-American Game

Submitted by Indonacious on February 19th, 2013 at 1:24 PM

According to the twitteresphere, Speight is going to be part of the under armour game this year.

This should calm some of the anxiety regarding him as a prospect, as an invite this early bodes pretty well for his skills and rankings (all of the participants were top 10 qbs last year). Congrats to him!

Building a Juggernaut: Part I - How Saban did it

Building a Juggernaut: Part I - How Saban did it

Submitted by Ron Utah on February 19th, 2013 at 10:56 AM

 

We have moved into recruiting season--a time when Michigan fans can tell their wives, girlfriends, and whomever else that there will be less to read about with football season over. Of course, the way Hoke and Co. recruit, this is perhaps the most exciting time to be checking MgoBlog, as “Hello” posts are more common during this stretch than any other. So instead of watching and re-watching every snap from games, we'll be ogling recruits and commits on youtube, critiquing the professionals' evaluations of high school football players, and arguing over the deeper meaning of a seventeen-year-old's tweets.

 

And on that note, I thought it would be interesting to see just how Michigan is doing in building a perennial B1G—and perhaps national—Championship contender. As the saying goes, “It's not the X's and O's but the Jimmies and Joes.” This is, of course, a reference to the fact that talent trumps scheme. And while I certainly believe a better-coached and prepared team can defeat a more talented sloppy team, the field is always tilted to the side with the better athletes.

 

I have broken this into two parts—both are VERY long. The first (this one) is a look at how the game's unquestionable hegemon built a behemoth program from the ashes of Alabama football. Do NOT mistake this for an endorsement of Saban's methods—as this diary will point out, they are somewhat deplorable. It is, however, a valid reference point for the construction of what we all hope will be our own Juggernaut, and these comparisons will be explored in Part II.

So, on to satan's Saban's story...

 

Alabama's championships have come in 2009, 2011, and 2012. There is no doubt that Saban's first three classes formed the core of his 2011 and 2012 championship squads, but they were also HUGE contributors to his 2009 crystal football. This gives us some hope for our own 2013 campaign, but, more importantly offers context for expectations in 2015, when the Hoke recruits will form the entire team.

 

Chart? Chart!

 

Name Pos Ht Wt 40 Stars Rivals Rtg IMPACT
Kareem Jackson DB 5'10" 185 4.5 4 stars 5.8 3
Marquis Maze ATH 5'9" 160 4.4 3 stars 5.6 3
Rolando McClain LB 6'4" 240 4.6 4 stars 6.0 3
William Vlachos OL 6'2" 287 5.1 3 stars 5.6 3
Josh Chapman DT 6'1" 280 4.9 3 stars 5.7 2
Luther Davis DT 6'4" 254 4.8 4 stars 5.8 2
Nick Gentry DT 6'1" 265 4.8 3 stars 5.7 2
Darius Hanks WR 6'0" 168 4.6 3 stars 5.5 2
Alfred McCullough DT 6'3" 297 4.9 4 stars 5.8 2
Patrick Crump OL 6'3" 285 5 3 stars 5.7 1
Jeremy Elder DE 6'3" 270 4.9 2 stars 5.4 1
Nick Fanuzzi QB 6'3" 200 4.6 3 stars 5.6 1
Tarence Farmer DB 6'1" 190 4.4 3 stars 5.5 1
Brandon Gibson WR 6'2" 190 4.5 4 stars 5.9 1
Demetrius Goode RB 5'11" 200 4.5 4 stars 5.8 1
Jeramie Griffin RB 6'0" 230 4.5 3 stars 5.7 1
Jennings Hester LB 6'3" 228 4.7 2 stars 5.4 1
Chris Lett DB 6'2" 195 4.5 4 stars 5.8 1
Kerry Murphy DT 6'5" 315 5.1 4 stars 6.0 1
Michael Ricks DB 6'2" 195 4.4 4 stars 6.0 1
Jamar Taylor RB 5'9" 204 4.7 3 stars 5.7 1
Chris Underwood TE 6'4" 202   2 stars 5.3 1
Alex Watkins DE 6'5" 225 4.7 4 stars 5.9 1
Chavis Williams DE 6'5" 220 4.6 3 stars 5.5 1
          avg 5.70 1.54

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saban's first class (2007) is his worst, and it's not even close. This is to be expected, since he was hired January 3, 2007. The majority of that class was already in place, and not even Saban's snake oil could yield a single five-star player. The average Rivals rating of that class was 5.70, which is the equivalent of a high three-star recruit.* Compare that with his ridiculous 2013 haul (probably his best class) that has an average rating of 5.87, which is basically a top-150 recruit. Think Joe Mathis. That's their average recruit.

*Rivals ratings were used. For Rivals, a 6.1 is a five-star; 5.8-6.0 is a four-star; 5.5-5.7 is a three-star; 5.0-5.4 is a two-star. Click here for more information.

But alas, 2007 was the recruiting class of a mere mortal, with 24 commits (low for Saban). Ten of those commitments would not finish their career at 'Bama, and five more would flame-out as non-contributors. But even this relatively paltry group produced a few stars: Kareem Jackson, Marquis Maze, Rolando McClain, and William Vlachos all went on to great things with the Tide and now get (legally) paid to play. In fact, four more players from that class have signed with NFL teams, though none of them were stars at 'Bama.

This brings me to the “IMPACT” column on the charts. IMPACT is my very imperfect measurement of a player's on-field contributions to his team. Briefly, a “3” is a solid starter to All-American type; a “2” is a contributor to spot starter; a “1” is bust for whatever reason. As has been pointed out to me, a four-tiered system would be better, giving two “middle” grades and one “all-star” grade. The trouble with that system is that it requires intimate (hmmm...maybe I could have picked a better adjective there) knowledge of a player's performance in order to make an accurate judgment, especially for lineman. For example, Ryan Van Bergen appears to be just a solid starter when you look at his stats, but we know that he was much more important to our team. And it's even harder with the O-line, where there are no real stats. This system results in a low number of “2” players, because the guys that were good enough to be minor contributors and spot starters as sophomores and juniors usually go on to be solid starters by their senior year, the IMPACT rating basically measures their performance in their best year. This is fine for our purposes, as what we are really trying to determine is how many recruits are contributing in a meaningful way to a championship team.

Back to 'Bama. While the '07 class was definitely Saban's weakest, seeing a large percentage of players not finish their careers with the Tide is commonplace. One thing is undeniably clear when you look at the data: a scholarship offer from Nick Saban is actually just an offer to tryout for the Alabama football team. This part of the SEC's infamous “over-signing” practice. Every year, guys that aren't getting it done to Saban's liking are sent packing and their scholarship is offered to a high school kid. If you aren't performing, your spot and your scholarship are going to be handed to someone else.  I really want Michigan to be great, but if we ever pull this kind of crap I will be livid.

 

Name Pos Ht Wt 40 Stars Rivals Rtg IMPACT
Julio Jones WR 6'4" 215 4.5 5 stars 6.1 3
Barrett Jones OL 6'5" 271 4.9 4 stars 6.0 3
Mark Barron ATH 6'2" 202 4.5 4 stars 6.0 3
Courtney Upshaw LB 6'2" 220 4.7 4 stars 5.9 3
Don'ta Hightower LB 6'3" 248 4.7 4 stars 5.8 3
Mark Ingram ATH 5'10" 195 4.4 4 stars 5.8 3
Robert Lester DB 6'2" 205 4.6 4 stars 5.8 3
Marcel Dareus DT 6'4" 277   3 stars 5.7 3
Terrence Cody DT 6'5" 395 5.5 3 stars 5.6 3
Brad Smelley QB 6'3" 220 4.7 3 stars 5.5 3
Jerrell Harris LB 6'3" 220 4.5 4 stars 6.0 2
Michael Williams DE 6'6" 240 4.7 4 stars 5.9 2
John Michael Boswell OL 6'6" 290 5.2 4 stars 5.8 2
Damion Square DT 6'3" 270 4.8 3 stars 5.7 2
Corey Smith K 6'1" 208 4.7 2 stars 5.4 2
Burton Scott ATH 5'11" 194 4.4 5 stars 6.1 1
Tyler Love OL 6'7" 285 5.1 5 stars 6.1 1
Alonzo Lawrence DB 6'1" 187 4.4 4 stars 6.0 1
Kerry Murphy DT 6'5" 325 5.3 4 stars 6.0 1
Melvin Ray WR 6'2" 185 4.5 4 stars 5.9 1
Star Jackson QB 6'3" 182 4.6 4 stars 5.9 1
Brandon Lewis DE 6'3" 260 4.7 4 stars 5.8 1
Chris Jordan ATH 6'2" 201 4.4 4 stars 5.8 1
Destin Hood WR 6'3" 190 4.5 4 stars 5.8 1
Devonta Bolton ATH 6'4" 220 4.5 4 stars 5.8 1
Glenn Harbin DE 6'6" 250 4.8 4 stars 5.8 1
Robby Green DB 6'0" 175 4.5 4 stars 5.8 1
Ivan Matchett RB 5'10" 206 4.5 3 stars 5.7 1
Jermaine Preyear RB 5'11" 205 4.5 3 stars 5.7 1
Undra Billingsley DE 6'4" 260 4.7 3 stars 5.7 1
Chris Jackson WR 6'0" 187 4.5 3 stars 5.6 1
Wesley Neighbors DB 6'1" 190 4.5 2 stars 5.4 1
          avg 5.81 1.78

 

2008 was Saban's first full cycle. Alabama's '07 was campaign was less than impressive: the Tide finished 7-6 including an upset loss to Louisiana-Monroe. An Independence Bowl win over Colorado was the only thing keeping them from a .500 season. Somehow, Saban parlayed that into a stellar recruiting class with 32 (!) recruits. The crown jewel of that class was 5-star Julio Jones, who absolutely lived-up to his billing and has gone on to NFL stardom. The two other 5-star players in that class—Burton (BJ) Scott and Tyler Love—would both fail to produce at 'Bama. Scott was a bust, and Love was injured. But here's a list of the guys from that class that ended-up with an IMPACT rating of “3”:

  • Julio Jones
  • Barrett Jones
  • Mark Barron
  • Courtney Upshaw
  • Don'ta Hightower
  • Mark Ingram
  • Robert Lester
  • Marcel Dareus
  • Terrence Cody
  • Brad Smelley

Brad Smelley was a high school QB who was converted to a bad ass TE. Only two other players from that group—Dareus and Cody—were three-star players. It's interesting to note that this class was a HUGE part of the 2009 championship team, with Julio Jones, Barrett Jones, Mark Barron, Mark Ingram, Marcel Dareus, and Terrence Cody all getting starts and being major contributors to Saban's first crystal football at 'Bama. From the '07 class, only Vlachos, McClain, and Jackson would make comparable contributions to the championship run.

 

Name Pos Ht Wt 40 Stars Rivals Rtg IMPACT
D.J. Fluker OL 6'7" 350 4.9 5 stars 6.1 3
Nico Johnson LB 6'3" 226 4.6 5 stars 6.1 3
Dre Kirkpatrick DB 6'2" 180 4.5 5 stars 6.1 3
Trent Richardson RB 5'11" 210 4.5 5 stars 6.1 3
Eddie Lacy RB 5'11" 210 4.4 4 stars 5.9 3
AJ McCarron QB 6'4" 189 4.8 4 stars 5.9 3
James Carpenter OL 6'5" 305   4 stars 5.8 3
Ed Stinson DE 6'4" 227 4.6 4 stars 5.8 3
Anthony Steen OL 6'4" 297 4.9 3 stars 5.7 3
Chance Warmack OL 6'3" 329 5.5 3 stars 5.7 3
Kevin Norwood WR 6'3" 180 4.5 4 stars 5.9 2
Kenny Bell WR 6'1" 160   4 stars 5.8 2
Quinton Dial DT 6'5" 308 5.1 4 stars 5.8 2
Tana Patrick LB 6'3" 215 4.5 4 stars 6.0 1
Michael Bowman WR 6'4" 206 4.5 4 stars 5.9 1
Kendall Kelly WR 6'4" 210 4.5 4 stars 5.9 1
Darrington Sentimore DT 6'3" 265 4.6 4 stars 5.9 1
Rod Woodson DB 5'11" 200 4.5 4 stars 5.9 1
William Ming DE 6'4" 265 4.8 4 stars 5.8 1
Brandon Moore OL 6'5" 313 5.2 4 stars 5.8 1
Kellen Williams OL 6'3" 295 5.2 3 stars 5.7 1
Jonathan Atchison LB 6'3" 216 4.5 3 stars 5.7 1
Chris Bonds DT 6'4" 262 4.7 3 stars 5.7 1
Anthony Orr DE 6'4" 260 4.8 3 stars 5.7 1
Petey Smith LB 6'0" 230 4.6 3 stars 5.7 1
Darius McKeller OL 6'6" 280 5.1 3 stars 5.6 1
Mike Marrow RB 6'2" 240 4.7 3 stars 5.5 1
          avg 5.83 1.85

 

The 2009 class saw another increase in its average Rivals Rating, this time bumping-up to 5.83. Even more impressive, the four five-star recruits—DJ Fluker, Nico Johnson, Dre Kirkpatrick, and Trent Richardson—all went on to become high-impact players for the Tide. That said, none of the 2009 class would earn starting roles on the 2009 championship team; Richardson was the most significant contributor but was playing back-up to Heisman-winner Mark Ingram. It would take more time for this group to become stars, but this smaller class (27 commitments) still produced 10 players (same number as the 2008 class) who earned a “3” IMPACT rating:

  • DJ Fluker
  • Nico Johnson
  • Dre Kirkpatrick
  • Trent Richardson
  • Eddie Lacy
  • AJ McCarron
  • James Carpenter
  • Ed Stinson
  • Anthony Steen
  • Chance Warmack

Only two of that group were 3-star players: O-linemen Steen and Warmack. All of those guys will almost certainly be drafted—Richardson, Kirkpatrick, and Carpenter are already in the league.

Conclusions

It took Saban three years to build a championship team, but the machine wasn't really in full gear until 2011. The 2010 Tide squad lost three regular season match-ups (South Carolina, LSU, and Auburn) before thumping STAEE in the Capital One Bowl. There is no doubt that his first three classes—especially his second and third—were the foundation of the '11 and '12 championship teams. What is interesting is how much those early classes got to contribute compared to his recent, even better classes. Even with a consistent exodus of talent—many of those drafted players left early—'Bama is fielding fewer freshmen now than it did in 2009. That '08 class really had the best opportunity to start early—since then only a handful of freshmen have seen significant playing time.

Below are the charts for 2010-2013. The IMPACT ratings are obviously incomplete, since most of those guys still have a chance to contribute. What you will notice is that the quality of Saban's classes has improved (though I'm not sure it can get much better than a 5.87 average rating). The Alabama Juggernaut has become and unstoppable force, and it's likely that only scandal or Saban's exit will stop it.

2010

 

Name Pos Ht Wt 40 Stars Rivals Rtg IMPACT
DeMarcus Milliner DB 6'2" 180 4.5 5 stars 6.1 3
Dequan Menzie DB 5'11" 200   4 stars 5.9 3
C.J. Mosley LB 6'2" 212 4.5 4 stars 5.9 3
Deion Belue DB 6'0" 175 4.5 3 stars 5.6 3
John Fulton DB 6'1" 180 4.4 4 stars 5.9 2
Jalston Fowler RB 6'0" 240 4.8 4 stars 5.8 2
Adrian Hubbard DE 6'7" 227   4 stars 5.8 2
Nick Perry DB 6'2" 195 4.5 4 stars 5.8 2
Blake Sims ATH 6'0" 180 4.5 4 stars 5.8 2
Brandon Ivory DT 6'3" 330   3 stars 5.6 2
Cade Foster K 6'1" 215   3 stars 5.5 2
Alfy Hill DE 6'4" 222 4.6 4 stars 5.9 1
Arie Kouandjio OL 6'6" 314 5.2 4 stars 5.9 1
Phillip Sims QB 6'2" 209 4.8 4 stars 5.9 1
DeAndrew White WR 6'0" 170 4.4 4 stars 5.9 1
Jarrick Williams DB 6'2" 205 4.6 4 stars 5.9 1
Corey Grant RB 5'10" 186 4.4 4 stars 5.8 1
Keiwone Malone WR 6'1" 165 4.4 4 stars 5.8 1
Brian Vogler TE 6'7" 248 4.7 4 stars 5.8 1
Ronald Carswell WR 6'0" 180 4.5 3 stars 5.7 1
Harrison Jones TE 6'4" 230 4.8 3 stars 5.7 1
Brandon Lewis DT 6'3" 275   3 stars 5.7 1
Chad Lindsay OL 6'3" 307 5.4 3 stars 5.7 1
Austin Shepherd OL 6'5" 316 5.5 3 stars 5.7 1
Wilson Love DE 6'4" 235 4.8 3 stars 5.6 1
Jay Williams K 6'4" 220   2 stars 5.3 1
          avg 5.77  

2011

 

Name Pos Ht Wt 40 Stars Rivals Rtg IMPACT
Hasean Clinton-Dix DB 6'2" 190   5 stars 6.1 3
Cyrus Kouandjio OL 6'7" 322 5 5 stars 6.1 3
Quinton Dial DE 6'6" 315   4 stars 5.8 3
Vinnie Sunseri LB 5'11" 193 4.6 3 stars 5.6 3
Jeoffrey Pagan DE 6'4" 272 4.6 4 stars 6 2
Jesse Williams DT 6'4" 330   4 stars 6 2
Xzavier Dickson DE 6'3" 238 4.8 4 stars 5.9 2
Trey DePriest LB 6'2" 231 4.6 4 stars 5.8 2
Chris Jones DB 6'0" 185 4.5 4 stars 5.8 2
D.J. Pettway DE 6'3" 255   4 stars 5.8 2
Demetrius Hart RB 5'8" 190 4.4 5 stars 6.1 1
Brent Calloway LB 6'1" 210 4.6 4 stars 6 1
Marvin Shinn WR 6'3" 177 4.5 4 stars 5.9 1
Aaron Douglas OL 6'6" 280   4 stars 5.8 1
Malcolm Faciane TE 6'6" 265   4 stars 5.8 1
LaMichael Fanning DT 6'6" 285   4 stars 5.8 1
Bradley Sylve WR 5'11" 175 4.4 4 stars 5.8 1
Danny Woodson WR 6'2" 200 4.5 4 stars 5.8 1
Phillip Ely QB 6'1" 186 4.6 3 stars 5.7 1
Ryan Kelly OL 6'5" 270 5 3 stars 5.7 1
Isaac Luatua OL 6'2" 299 5 3 stars 5.7 1
Jabriel Washington ATH 5'11" 165   3 stars 5.7 1
Duron Carter WR 6'2" 195   3 stars 5.6 1
          avg 5.84  

2012

 

Name Pos Ht Wt 40 Stars Rivals Rtg IMPACT
T.J. Yeldon RB 6'2" 205 4.4 5 stars 6.1 3
Amari Cooper WR 6'1" 175   4 stars 6 3
Kenyan Drake RB 6'1" 195 4.4 4 stars 5.8 2
Deion Belue DB 6'0" 170   3 stars 5.6 2
Landon Collins DB 6'0" 199 4.4 5 stars 6.1 1
Eddie Williams ATH 6'4" 204   5 stars 6.1 1
Chris Black WR 5'11" 170   4 stars 6 1
Travell Dixon DB 6'2" 200 4.5 4 stars 6 1
Reggie Ragland LB 6'4" 245   4 stars 6 1
Ryan Anderson LB 6'3" 250   4 stars 5.9 1
Cyrus Jones ATH 5'11" 183 4.5 4 stars 5.9 1
Dillon Lee LB 6'4" 220   4 stars 5.9 1
Geno Smith DB 5'11" 180 4.5 4 stars 5.9 1
Denzel Devall LB 6'2" 236 4.6 4 stars 5.8 1
Brandon Greene OL 6'6" 280   4 stars 5.8 1
Tyler Hayes LB 6'3" 215   4 stars 5.8 1
Korren Kirven DT 6'4" 272 5.2 4 stars 5.8 1
Dalvin Tomlinson DT 6'2" 270 4.9 4 stars 5.8 1
Dakota Ball DT 6'2" 292 5.2 3 stars 5.7 1
Kurt Freitag TE 6'3" 245   3 stars 5.7 1
Brandon Hill OL 6'6" 352   3 stars 5.7 1
Alphonse Taylor DT 6'6" 340   3 stars 5.7 1
Caleb Gulledge OL 6'4" 255   3 stars 5.6 1
Darren Lake DT 6'3" 330   3 stars 5.6 1
Alec Morris QB 6'3" 235   3 stars 5.6 1
Adam Griffith K 5'11" 175   3 stars 5.5 1
          avg 5.82  

2013

 

Name Pos Ht Wt 40 Stars Rivals Rtg
Jonathan Allen DE 6'3" 263 4.5 5 stars 6.1
Reuben Foster LB 6'1" 244   5 stars 6.1
O.J. Howard TE 6'6" 235 4.5 5 stars 6.1
A'Shawn Robinson DT 6'4" 320 5.1 5 stars 6.1
Robert Foster WR 6'3" 187   4 stars 6.0
Derrick Henry RB 6'3" 243 4.5 4 stars 6.0
Grant Hill OL 6'6" 301   4 stars 6.0
Tyren Jones RB 5'9" 215   4 stars 6.0
Alvin Kamara RB 5'10" 197 4.5 4 stars 6.0
Dee Liner DE 6'3" 281   4 stars 6.0
ArDarius Stewart ATH 6'1" 190   4 stars 6.0
Altee Tenpenny RB 6'0" 212 4.5 4 stars 6.0
Maurice Smith DB 6'0" 180 4.5 4 stars 5.9
Tim Williams DE 6'3" 235   4 stars 5.9
Cooper Bateman QB 6'3" 215 4.8 4 stars 5.8
Raheem Falkins WR 6'4" 195 4.5 4 stars 5.8
Darius Paige DT 6'4" 314   4 stars 5.8
Jonathan Cook DB 6'0" 185 4.5 3 stars 5.7
Brandon Hill OL 6'7" 390   3 stars 5.7
Eddie Jackson WR 6'0" 175   3 stars 5.7
Walker Jones LB 6'2" 234 4.6 3 stars 5.7
Leon Brown OL 6'6" 300   3 stars 5.6
Cole Mazza OL 6'1" 240   3 stars 5.6
Parker McLeod QB 6'3" 190   3 stars 5.6
Anthony Averett ATH 6'0" 170 4.4 3 stars 5.5
          avg 5.87

 

Gene Smith: "Strong likelihood" of Michigan & ohio being in same division

Gene Smith: "Strong likelihood" of Michigan & ohio being in same division

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on February 18th, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Looks like all the talk of there being East & West is going to be the case.

 

I asked AD Gene Smith likelihood of #Buckeyes and #Wolverinesbeing in same division- "Strong likelihood"

Michigan offers [greyshirt] DT Brady Pallante. Per Tremendous: very likely on the verge of adding a new commitment

Michigan offers [greyshirt] DT Brady Pallante. Per Tremendous: very likely on the verge of adding a new commitment

Submitted by a2_electricboogaloo on February 17th, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Steve from Tremendous (and now 247) just posted an article on a new offer Brady Pallante.

 

#Michigan is very likely on the verge of adding another member to the program (VIP): michigan.247sports.com/Board/59424/Mi…

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) February 18, 2013

He's an under the radar recruit at the moment, and it doesn't look like he has any offers at the moment.  I'll trust the coaches on this one, especially with their familiarity with d-linemen.

The article can be read here (half paywalled, half open).

 

Edit 1: Hat tip to icefins26 and THE INCREDIBLE HOKE, in pointing out that this may be a greyshirt scenario, at least according to this earlier (but deleted) tweet from Tremendous.

@TremendousUM: Barron Collier (FL) DT Brady Pallante has been offered a greyshirt scholarship by #Michigan. Story upcoming.

I guess we'll have to wait and see to tell whether this is a normal scholarship offer or not.

Edit 2: H/T to detrocks on the WolverineNation article (link here).  The story confirms that he is in fact a greyshirt offer, and not a standard offer.

Uh-oh. #27 is taken??

Uh-oh. #27 is taken??

Submitted by Decatur Jack on February 16th, 2013 at 10:27 PM

There seems to be a slight problem in the Michigan roster.

Derrick Green wore #27 in high school and cites Eddie George (who also wore #27) as his favorite player. When Green committed, he had a #27 jersey on the wall behind the projector screen.

Slight problem: walk-on wide receiver Jonathan Keizer has a claim to #27, according to mgoblue.com.

So, what number does Derrick Green wear? I hope this doesn't become a big problem. We were able to get Pipkins to wear #56 like he wanted. Hopefully we can do the same here.

Any thoughts?

UPDATE!:

After doing some research, I've found that you can have duplicate numbers on a roster, but not on the same side of the ball. This is why #27 LB Mike Jones (who is a scholarship athlete) would not have to forfeit his number and is irrelevant to this discussion.

If you look at Michigan's roster, there are no duplicate numbers on offense. There is no evidence to suggest that, as some posited, two players can have the same numbers on offense as long as one stays off the field. I don't where you guys found that rule, but I'd be curious to see it.

I also found that, despite Hoke's statement that he treats all the players equally ("our 115 sons"), scholarship athletes always get preference to walk-ons. The most likely scenario here is that Keizer would be reassigned a number and Green would wear #27.

I had hoped that this thread would become a discussion about what numbers Green could possibly wear instead of #27 in the event that Hoke decides to let Keizer keep the number (a definite possibility, and don't be surprised if you see it happen).

Instead, this largely became a ridiculing of the original post's premise, whether or not player numbers need to be discussed on the board, and the implication that Green might transfer if not granted #27 (which is fine, mea culpa on that last one).