Brian Cole Ejected/Suspended

Brian Cole Ejected/Suspended

Submitted by Trump on September 15th, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Title says it all. Michigan 4 star recruit, Brian Cole, was suspended for the first quarter of last Friday's game for "disciplinary reasons." Cole then entered the game in the 2nd quarter, only to receive 2 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties before halftime. By rule, when a player obtains 2 such penalties, they are ejected for the remainder of the game, as well as the next game. Here is to hoping he matures a little before stepping onto campus. Hopefully before... Don't need an MSU situation on our hands.


Wal-Mart wolverines: Since someone else brought it up...

Wal-Mart wolverines: Since someone else brought it up...

Submitted by chewieblue on September 15th, 2014 at 10:33 PM

I was born in Michigan and my Sparty-grad father cheated on my mom and ran off to start a new life and family with another woman. Needless to say, my hatred for Sparty started at a young age because I associated them with my "father". At five years old, you can make such blanket connections without remiss. Having a Michigan family on my mom's side, six alums in all, didn't hurt either.
Early in my life, my mother met a guy from Ohio who was living and working in Michigan. A couple years later, I was living in Ohio. I've spent the next 30+ years of my life in the state I now call home.
That guy my mom married was a Buckeye born and bred. Hell, he even knew and called "the vest" a friend. Despite that, he took me to my first Michigan game and many to follow. He saw the connection I had to the U of M and selflessly helped me to embrace it.
I was accepted to Michigan in my senior year of high school, one of the proudest days of my life. But with all the sentimental connections I had to Michigan, out of state tuition made that trigger too hard (and a bit too selfish) to pull, knowing my step-dad would have to take on a lot more work to help foot the bill.
I love the U of M for more reasons than I can say. For the family members who diverted my attention by taking me to games when I was going through my parents' divorce. For the step-father who drove me four hours to see games at the Big House when he was secretly rooting for his friend in the red vest, and for the loathing I held for all things Sparty, thanks to the life choices of just one alum.
I guess what I am saying is that I simply take issue with the whole, "Wal-Mart Wolverine" meme, because I've lived Michigan in so many ways. I've died each dropped pass, each missed tackle and each loss as much as any alum. I've caught nerf balls at tailgates as a youngster, I've watched in person as Biakabatuka rambled through a damp, cool November afternoon. I've taken my wife and kids to the golf course and the blue lot to start the cycle over again.
My connections to the maize and blue are as meaningful to me and my family as they could be for anyone associated with the University. I love Michigan. My kids love Michigan. We support the University at every chance. God willing, someday my children will be alums. Excuse me if, "Wal-Mart wolverine", doesn't quite sum up how much the place means to me, and maybe, what I mean to it.

When was Michigan's last non-televised football game?

When was Michigan's last non-televised football game?

Submitted by stephenrjking on September 15th, 2014 at 8:06 PM
I was thinking about this the other day, and the Minnesota thread reminded me of it: I can't remember the last time Michigan played a game that wasn't on tv somewhere.

Of course it has happened in my memory--I used to listen to non-televised games on the radio with my Dad, and in the mists of time we used to target non-televised games to attend for our one game a year. But at least as far back as 1997 non-TV games were practically a distant memory (I remember this because there was an article about senior ND QB Ron Powlus, the one-time wunderkind of whom the article remarked, "His every game has been on national television." Reading that, I worked back through 1994 and was pretty sure that at the very least almost every Michigan game had been televised in some way in that time period).

Obviously no B1G team goes un televised anymore, but Michigan has always been one do the bigger tv draws. Anyone know what game was the last one seen only in-Stadium?

A Look at All Power 5 Coaching Changes, 2007-2011

A Look at All Power 5 Coaching Changes, 2007-2011

Submitted by reshp1 on September 15th, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Ahhh, a red snapper. Mmmmm, very tasty. Okay, Weaver, listen carefully. You can hold on to your red snapper... ...or you can go for what's in the box that Hiro-San is bringing down the aisle right now! What's it gonna be?


In case you haven’t noticed, there has been a fair amount of talk around here about a coaching change. Some have already made up their mind, especially after Notre Dame. Others, like me, want to wait until the end of the season, but I think we all recognize that it’s a real possibility if the team doesn’t show consistent improvement.

So, here we are. We might as well talk about it.

My personal feeling on coaching changes is that you have consider all the possibilities that can happen, not just focus on the potential positives. A lot of debates seem to just compare our current situation against the best case scenarios and dismiss the potential negative effects and scenarios that are possible as well. Names like Harbaugh and Chip Kelly are often brought up as an example of guys coming in and turning programs around, and as examples of why Hoke’s struggles of late are inexcusable not matter what the issues he’s had to deal with.

But guys like that are special and don’t grow on trees. You can rattle off their names off the top of your head precisely because they are the cream of the crop and the exception to the norm. But what happens the rest of the time? It behooves us to look at all the data, not just the outcomes we want.

Coaching Changes 2007-2011

We start with’s database of coaching all coaching changes in FBS. Since Michigan has a bit more job prestige than your average FBS team, I only included teams in the Power 5 conferences (B1G, Big12, Pac-12, SEC, ACC) and strong independents like Notre Dame to get a data set of teams more comparable to Michigan.

The database also does not differentiate between why changes were made whether they were retirement, voluntary resignations to move somewhere else, or firings. Clearly, only firings are relevant to our current situation, so I excised all examples that were voluntary separations, and further removed firings/forced resignations due to scandal. What we are left with are only programs that terminated their coach due to on the field performance.

We end up with a list of 36 coaching changes. These are schools in the proverbial “it can’t get worse” situation. These are schools that, even knowing the potential pitfalls of a coaching change, decided that enough was enough and something had to be done. You would think that schools in this situation would overwhelmingly benefit from a coaching change. After all, they perceived themselves to be a position where they had nowhere to go but up. As we’ll see from the data, and as we learned from our 2012 offensive line situation, things can most definitely get worse.

Do Coaching Changes Result in an Increase in Win Percentage?

We’ll first compare the performance of the new coach over their first three years vs the previous three years. The graph below shows the differential between the average wins per year of the outgoing vs incoming coach.

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As you can see, it’s a mixed bag. The average change resulted in less than 1 win per season improvement (0.88 win/season), and the variation is pretty huge. On average though, coaches could not manage to significantly improve even upon the performance that was so bad it got their predecessor canned.  

The big positive turnarounds should be familiar to you. These are, for the most part, the coaches you already know because this is how they made a name for themselves. Franklin at Vanderbilt, Brian Kelly at ND, Nick Saban at Alabama, Sarkisian at Washington, and our very own Brady Hoke are among the names that top the list.

The Immediate Impact

Next, let’s looked at now the new coach fared in the first year compared to the previous 3 year average.

The results here are even less encouraging. On average, the first year for the new coach was slightly worse than the previous coach in the 3 years prior to being fired (-0.11 wins/season). Brady Hoke and Houston Nutt were the significant positive outliers (mostly because their predecessors were really bad over their three years). On the other side of the spectrum, Minnesota replacing a perpetually on-the-cusp Glenn Mason with Tim Brewster was the worst idea ever.

The negative first year differential isn’t totally unexpected though. Coaching changes come with transition costs. There are transfers and the guys that stay have to learn a new system, sometimes one that doesn’t suit their talents. Clearly, those expecting an instant improvement will most likely be disappointed.

Third Year Performance

But what about year three? The new coach has installed his system on both sides of the ball and by now his recruiting classes are starting to see the field. One would expect that by now, they’ve overcome the initial hurdles and can place their stamp on the program.

Here, the data is finally a little more encouraging. Most schools were better off after year 3 than they were in the 3 years prior to the change. The average differential was about a game and a half better per season (1.44). This also suggests that generally coaches improve from year 1 to year 3, something Hoke has been criticized for not accomplishing (although, it must be said, he had the biggest year 1 turnaround of all coaches).

A Closer Look at the Turnaround Artists

People will say, “Well, just don’t make a bad hire then.” But do the guys that succeed really look that different from the ones that don’t?

If you look at the list of names that managed to turn schools around, just about all of them would be on anyone’s coaching wish list. But, do their track records before they were hired look like as much of a slam dunk as they seem now? Was there something on their resume at the time that differentiated them from the unsuccessful candidates, and screamed to ADs “Hire this man!”

If we limit the list to guys that improved their programs by an average of 3 or more games a season over their first 3 years, we have: Brady Hoke, Brian Kelly, Charlie Stong, David Cutliffe, Houston Nutt, James Franklin, Nick Saban, and Steve Sarkisian.

If we look at just the third year performance, the list adds: Art Briles, Bill Snyder, Butch Davis, Chip Kelly, Jim Harbaugh, and Jimbo Fisher. That's 14 guys total and is basically the top 1/3 of the 36 coaching transitions.

Let’s take a closer look at what each of these guys looked like at the time of their hiring:


Relevant experience at time of hire (epilogue in parentheses)

Art Briles

Up and down stint at Houston, although took over a 3-8 team. Went 32-28 over 5 seasons.

Bill Snyder

Life-long KSU coach, came out of retirement to help his former team. Unless Carr wants to come out of retirement, the situation is not relevant to Michigan.

Brady Hoke

Actually not that bad compared to the rest of the list… Similar to Brian Kelly, but one fewer stop. Improved a MAC Ball State year to year with 12 wins in the final season. Improved a 2-10 SDSU to 9-4 in two years.

Brian Kelly

One of the few with a slam dunk record. Improved teams everywhere he went from GVSU, to Central Michigan, to Cinncinnati (Big East). Only knock would be no power 5 experience. (Continued trend at ND until a tail off last year.)

Butch Davis

One of the only ones on the list with proven HC experience at a Power5 school (6 years at Miami) and, like Saban, moved from the NFL back to college after being mediocre there.  (Fired for misconduct at UNC in 2011)

Charlie Strong

Just 1 game of HC experience at Florida as interim (after Zook got canned). DC for 3 years at South Carolina and Florida each.

Chip Kelly

No HC experience, but fairly bulletproof record at OC. Similar to Rich Rod, had a signature offensive system that was successful everywhere he coached. OC at New Hampshire prior to that. (Now in NFL)

David Cutcliffe

I'm not going to go into this too much Another coach with experience at a power school, Cutcliffe spent 6 years at Ole Miss. He hovered around 7-8 wins for 4 years, which is right around where the program was when he took over. In year 5 he broke out with 10 wins, promptly followed up with a 4 win campaign the next year that saw him fired. It should be noted that while he improved Duke, they also almost literally couldn't have been worse, winning just 2 games in 3 years.

Houston Nutt

Long, up and down stint at Arkansas. 10 win high, 4 win low, 75-48 overall. (Fired by Ole Miss after 3 years. Took over tire fire, immediate success followed by precipitous decline.)

James Franklin

WR and QB coach at Maryland and KSU respectively, then went on to OC at KSU and returned to Maryland as OC. No Head Coaching experience, no coordinator experience. A bit of an outlier in that respect.

Jim Harbaugh

Promising 3 seasons at FCS San Diego (Fighting Toreros!) as HC including conference champs in last two years. QB coach in NFL prior to that. (Now in NFL)

Jimbo Fisher

No prior HC experience. OC at LSU under Saban and Miles, and then at FSU where he was groomed as coach in waiting after Bowden retired.

Nick Saban

Hovered around 6-7 wins before getting 9 in his last year at MSU, ~9 wins a year at LSU except for one 13 win season, turning around a floundering 3-8 record the year before. And then 2 rather lack-luster seasons in the NFL.  One of the few proven entities at time of hire on this list.

Steve Sarkisian

No HC experience prior to hire. 2 years as QB coach at USC, 1 year QB coach in NFL, 2 years as OC at USC and went 22-3 in those years


These guys fall into one of three categories:

Proven HC Experience

at High Level

Up and Coming HC

at Lower Tier

Up and Coming OC or DC

at High Level

Bill Synder

Art Briles

Charlie Stong

Butch Davis

Brady Hoke

Chip Kelly

Houston Nutt

Brian Kelly

James Franklin (position coach)

Nick Saban

Jim Harbaugh

Jimbo Fisher

David Cutcliffe  

Steve Sarkisian

Of the proven category, Bill Synder was a career KSU man and a bit of a unique situation, coming out of retirement to help his former team. Michigan does not have an analogous option (Carr ain’t walking through that door). Houston Nutt’s 4th year at Ole Miss was 2-10 with no conference wins and got him canned. David Cutcliffe is stretching the definition of "proven" as he treaded water for 4 years before a good year followed by a bad year and was fired before becoming Duke's coach, a big step down from Ole Miss. Butch Davis left in scandal.

From the 5 years reviewed, Nick Saban was the only example of a successful hire of an established coach that Michigan can hope to replicate. Rick Neuheisel (UCLA) is an anti-example as an established hire to avoid. After a moderately successful HC stint at Washington that won the Pac-12 and rose bowl, he took over UCLA and only managed 21-29 over 4 years before being fired.

Neither of two the remaining categories are slam dunks either. For every rising HC star at lower tier schools that finds success at the next level, there are many more that don’t.  Paul Wulff (Washington State) was an up and coming HC at the FCS level, earning Big Sky Coach of the Year honors in 2001, 2004, and 2005, but took over Washington State and won just 5 games in 3 years.

Same goes for rising coordinator stars. Randy Shannon (Miami) fielded two top 5 defense and three other top 10 defenses in his 6 years as DC in Miami prior to being promoting HC. Even with the relatively smooth transition you’d expect from being promoted within the same school, he went 5 - 7 - 9 - 7 wins compared to Coker's 9 - 9 - 7 that got him fired. Shannon himself was fired after year 4.

On the offensive coordinator side of things, Dana Holgorsen (WV) was a promising OC at Oklahoma St that turned the #61 offense to #1 in just one year, shattering school records in just about every offensive category (total yards, scoring, passing yards, completions). But he flopped at WVU averaging 2 games worse a season than his predecessor and winning just 4 games last year (although they look more competitive this year)

As bad as some of these hires seem in hindsight, at the time, these guys don’t look all that different on paper than the ones that went on to succeed. Interpreting a coaching record is tricky business (is Brady Hoke the guy that improved every team he coached, or the career sub .500 mid major coach?). And as they say, “past performance does not guarantee future results.” It’s not just a matter of having a competent AD make a straight forward decision; it’s a very tough call for anyone and in most cases relies on leap of faith that someone can continue their upward career trend.


One other thing that immediately hit me when putting together the data is just how many of these guys are no longer around.

Only half the coachs on our list of 36 are still at their schools. It gets worse as you go farther back in time. Of the 8 coaches hired for the 2007 season, Nick Saban and Mark Dantonio are the only ones still around. A whopping 5 were fired and another (Harbaugh) left for the NFL.

Even among the 14 “winners” covered above, the story is not much better. 5 guys capitalized on their success and moved on to other positions, and 2 were fired (one scandal, on failed to sustain their initial success), only 7 remain (Snyder, Saban, Briles, Hoke, Kelly, Fisher, Cutcliffe).

What We’ve Learned


Coaching changes are not guaranteed to succeed.

Coaching changes are a lot like Blackjack. If you’ve got 13 and the dealer is showing an Ace, you better hit. You might bust, but you don’t have much of a choice. On the other hand, if you’re sitting on 17 and just getting greedy, asking for another card could completely backfire on you. It's a calculated risk that should only be taken if you know your current situation is untenable.

Coaching changes take time.

The data shows that year one after a change is, on average, is a step back. Most of the time, it takes even the best a few years to get their teams going. Unlike Blackjack, with coaching you only get to play a hand every 3-4 years, and the cards you’re making a decision on get dealt one per season, so you better be patient and make a good call.

Even if you hit it big, you’re not in the clear

If you’re one of the lucky ones to get a good coach, the data shows there’s a good chance they’ll capitalize on their success and move to the next stop in their career. So even if you hit it big at the casino, you still might get robbed and wake up the next morning back right where you started. Michigan is probably a destination job for most coaches among the college ranks, but the SEC and NFL always beckon.

If all this sounds like a sales pitch to retain Hoke, I apologize because that's not my intention. I'm not opposed to a coaching change and I tried to remain as objective as possible while putting this together. There are certainly success stories to try and aspire to and I recognize the last year or so have certainly not been ideal. However, we should be mindful of the pitfalls as well when making the call and hopefully this diary provides some insight into those.

Thanks for reading.

Phil Steele Bowl Prediction (Week 3)....wait for it....Michigan vs. Arizona in San Francisco Bowl! :)

Phil Steele Bowl Prediction (Week 3)....wait for it....Michigan vs. Arizona in San Francisco Bowl! :)

Submitted by markusr2007 on September 15th, 2014 at 2:38 PM

Right. And since when is Phil Steele correct in predicting anything?

Okay, I know, I know.

But today he really did day this is gonna happen and so I just think that....

And at Levi's Stadium! Woo Hoo! Thanks Phil!


Maurice Hurst at fullback vs Miami (NTM)

Maurice Hurst at fullback vs Miami (NTM)

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on September 15th, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Noticed they had him on the goal line for Green's TD run. Didn't see this mentioned anywhere, but if it already was, mods please delete.

Doing his best Will Carr impression. This is the only snap I can remember him being in at FB. Anyone else see him at fullback on Saturday for any other plays?

The play is at 13:39

Team Statistic Rankings: Michigan's The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Team Statistic Rankings: Michigan's The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Submitted by BoFan on September 15th, 2014 at 12:59 PM

The Good:  Michigan is ranked 7th in total defense (yards/game) nationally and 10th in rushing defense.…

Upside:  We get Taylor and Wilson back

GMatt is the man


The Bad:  Michigan is ranked 61st in total offense with 436 yards per game.…

Upside:  We are in week four of installing a new offense.


The Ugly:  Michigan is ranked 124 out of 128 in turnover margin.…

Upside:  Regression to the mean baby.  No more mistakes

Why does everything have to be so hard?

Why does everything have to be so hard?

Submitted by Ron Utah on September 15th, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Sorry for this

It was an unseasonably warm late November day in St. Louis, the kind of day that happnes once or twice or three times each winter there but would never grace Ann Arbor.  My buddy's apartment complex had an outdoor pool that was still open, and he invited me over for a swim.  

It was 2010, and we had just watched the Michigan vs Ohio State game a few days before.  Even on this perfect day, standing in perfectly warm water looking around at beautiful, barely-bikini clad co-eds with perfect bodies we couldn't be completely happy.

I broke the silence first: "Rich Rodriguez has to go."  My buddy bristled.  His face transitioned from relaxed to tense almost instantly.  We had both been RR supporters since his arrival on campus, but his expression told me that he knew I was right.  "We'll never have an offense like this again," he responded.  I nodded, then gave the obvious counterpoint we both already knew: "But hopefully we'll never have a defense like this again, either."

Here's the thing: though Ohio State had pummeled us by a score of 37-7, the game wasn't nearly that one-sided.  We had piled-up 351 total yards of offense and had opened the game with two long drives: one that ended with a turnover on downs--since by that point in the season we didn't trust our kicker to even attempt a 45-yard field goal--and one that ended in a lost fumble at the Ohio State nine-yard line.  Terrelle Pryor had to scramble about 50 yards on one thrid down to keep their first TD drive alive, then thread a perfect pass between two defenders that might have picked it off had it been just inches different in either direction for the score.  And even though the Michigan offense chugged along a bit more, the defense completely fell apart and it was 24-7 by halftime.  Game over.  Season over.  RR era over.

This is Michigan

Since I am an unreasonably passionate fan, I started doing research on who would eventually replace RR right away.  While Dave Brandon said he was going to follow a "process" before deciding what to do, it was pretty clear that Rodriguez was on his way out the door.  Even a victory in the Who-Gives-A-Fuck bowl wouldn't save the man who had coached Michigan's most fun offense and least effective defense.  As it happened, the bowl game made the decision even easier.

Among the publicized possibilities for the position--Miles, Harbaugh, Fitzgerald, Hoke, etc.--I quickly found myself in the Brady Hoke camp.  He had taken Ball State to an undefeated regular season.  He had turned around SDSU in two years on the job.  He seemed genuine, likeable, and he clearly loved Michigan.  Don't get me wrong--I was hardly sold on Brady Hoke as the savior of our once-proud program, but he seemed like the best option.

But then he said all the right things at that first press conference, fergodsakes.  My optimism took over.  We were back.

Pure joy

In a lot of ways, that 2011 season was very un-Michigan-like.  Things seemed easier than they should have been. The loss at Michigan State was maddening, but the trash tornado and brazenly unnecessary roughness of Staee made it feel a bit invalid.  The Iowa game was VERY Michigan-like: an unexplainable gameplan with an even harder to understand performance that would give the Hawkeye faithful renewed faith in their consistently inconsistent head coach.  But other than those two aberrations, the bounces all seemed to go our way, we broke the streak against Ohio State (now just "Ohio"), and we won a BCS bowl game to which we maybe should not have been invited and in which we certainly didn't outplay our opponent.  Michigan never wins games like that, much less has seasons like that.

The 2012 schedule seemed foolishly challenging, and an 8-5 result with a close bowl game that we perhpas did deserve to win with our shiny new starting QB who seemed more than capable of both passing and running (Devin Gardner) gave us great hope.  2011 had proven Hoke's coaching chops in our minds, and even with doubts about Al Borges, 2013 looked oh-so-promising.

QB Oh Noes

Rather than talk about the Season of Infinite Pain--which is still all-too-fresh in our minds--I'd rather bring-up this happy memory.  The great thing about RR's offense isn't that it always works--it didn't.  No, the truly beautiful thing about a well-run spread outfit is how easy it looks when it's clicking.  Watching Denard take two steps toward the line of scrimmage before flicking a wobbly duck to a W I D E open Roy Roundtree never-ever-ever got old.  It made defenses look inept and Rodriguez look like a genius.  When it worked.

And maybe that's why it was destined to leave Ann Arbor: Michigan isn't allowed to have it easy.  I'm not sure if this is God's decree, but U-M is not graced with swimming pool days in late November or football seasons where everything goes our way.  Even 1997 seemed impossibly hard, overcome only by the superheroics of Charles Woodson and friends.

This just happened

And maybe that's why I was so furious on Saturday.  It shouldn't be hard against Miami (NTM), should it?  I mean, it shouldn't be hard against any team whose football prowess is so pathetic that a paranthetical clarification is required.  Not for Michigan.  And yet, here I am, four years into the Hoke era, with my optimism completely erased and thinking to myself, "I will have to reassess my loyalty to this coaching staff at the end of the season."

But this is as it's always been.  And looking at the numbers, I wonder if my frustration is somewhat without merit: through three games, we are 25th in the country on yds/play on offense and 10th in the nation on yds/play on defense.  Sure, we've played two cupcakes, but so has everyone else in the top 25 (actually, Nebraska has played three).  The offense seems to make sense, and the fake-bubble TD was reminiscent of the ease of QB OH NOES!  Of course, even on that play, the throw was a bit off and the catch was bobbled.  Still, a calm, rational thinker would look at our team and say, "You know what, this team actually could be really good before the season is over."

But this is as it's always been.  The Lloyd Carr era brought a National Championship, but was consistently frought with losses that should not have been.  Nine or ten wins felt like an unbreakable ceiling.  Even the orgasmic streak of victories over Cooper's Buckeyes was shattered by a Youngstown State coach.

So why does a game against NTM have to feel like a Herculean effort?  Why does a very respectable loss to an underrated (by me, at least) Notre Dame team have be a 31-0 result?  Why can't it just feel easy, or even easier than impossible when we take the field?  Why can't I feel even slightly confident about a game in East Lansing or Columbus?

I don't have answers to these questions, so I will do what a Michigan fan does: I will watch every game, often in agony, and wait for the end of the season to decide if there is any optimism left in me, or if it's time to have another talk with my buddy in the pool.  Why?  Because this is Michigan, fergodsakes.

Utah Depth Chart - Funchess, Taylor, Wilson listed as starters

Utah Depth Chart - Funchess, Taylor, Wilson listed as starters

Submitted by BlueKoj on September 15th, 2014 at 12:08 PM

I know its mostly meaningless, but there it is...also, Morgan listed without the "OR" 2nd and 3rd string.


EDIT: essentially this was the same vs. MOH so....probably a lot of "nothing to see here." Delano Hill seems to be the only change.


Chicken Littles vs Polly Annas Betting Thread (For Charity) - week 2

Chicken Littles vs Polly Annas Betting Thread (For Charity) - week 2

Submitted by reshp1 on September 15th, 2014 at 11:10 AM

Week 1 thread here. If you missed it, the premise of the thread was for the pessimists and optimists to make bets against each other on predictions for the game or season, with the loser donating to the charity of the winner's choice. The terms of the bet were proposed and any takers would respond with a "I'll take that bet." Detailed instructions in the OP of the linked thread if you want to make propose bets for this week (put proposals in this thread)

There were quite a few good bets made last week, but most were season long bets. The only one for the game against against Miami (NTM) was mine that the secondary gets 2 or more INTs. Despite Jourdan Lewis having the 2nd one in his hands, the secondary fell short with only 1 INT on the books. As promised:

The season long bets:

Lemon bet for Michigan Beating Ohio, Uniqenam vs Reader71

25:1 bet for Michigan winning the BIG TEN, $250(!):$10 to Motts, BloomingtonBlue vs reshp1

Jabrill Peppers returns a punt AND INT for TD by end of season, $30 to Prostate Cancer Awareness/Movember, boliver46 vs umfan323

Morris starts at least one game, blood donation to Red Cross, double if not injury related, bleu vs JeepinBen

Michigan wins more than 8 games this year, $50 to Hope for Pahokee, Erik-in-Dayton vs YoOoBoMoLloRoHo