The state of the athletic department vs program vs football team

The state of the athletic department vs program vs football team

Submitted by teldar on November 2nd, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    [ED: Normally, the judgement on diaries is left to others, but I think this might merit that status for length / presentation reasons if nothing else - LSA]

 So I work in Columbus in the O.R. and unsurprisingly, most of the people here went to OSU. This week I was in an OR with the guy who is the blue jackets team doc and played college ball (not sure where, not exactly sure whether it was BB or FB, could have been either). I was asked what the shelf life of the football coach was and my response was that the AD was going to be fired and replaced before the FBHC was fired and replaced. The overwhelming response was that if the football team was winning, the AD wouldn't have been a problem,

     My response was that there's a distinct difference between the health of the department, the program and the current team which it seemed people were unwilling to differentiate and I think the former players and some members here are already losing the distinction as well. 

     The Athletic Director was fired, in part, for being an ASS. He was terrible at crisis management and damage control. He was instrumental in "Concussiongate" and was unable to recognize the issue with "Cokegate." Add into these the additional issues of "Emailgate" as well as the rumors of "Interfering with the coaching-gate" and "Watching film with the coordinators-gate." And we begin to see the issues which sealed the fate of the AD. The fact that the football team is a disaster is not as much a reflection of the AD as it is of the coaching staff. The Athletic Department as a whole was being viewed in a very negative light and it was due to the inability of the AD to manage the issues which occurred.

     This brings me to the program. This is the other half of why the AD needed to go. Since Brandon took over, revenue has increased, but not significantly more than other top programs' per http://mgoblog.com/content/mailbag-qb-not-major-problem-revenue-increases-oregons-thing. However, student participation at the football games has plummeted and the wait list for season tickets has disappeared. It was anticipated that the game this past weekend, even though it was a homecoming, would be the first game in decades which did not have 100k+ in attendance. These are not the causes of the deteriorating health of the program, but the symptoms of the health of the program, which is a responsibility of the AD, not the coach, per se. 

     Finally we get to the health of the team. This is not something that should be specifically related to the atletic director unless there is some documented issue with dysfunction withing the football team itself or the coaching staff. We don't get to hear enough about the inner workings of the team and staff to know if these are going on, but we do get to see the results of the team management on the fielf. And its performance speaks for itself. It's a mess. The coach is obviously failing. He's had nothing but a significant rise in the amount of talent on the team, except for the possiblity of OL due to questions about OL youth and the slow development of OL in particular, yet basically all position groups continue to underperform related to their recruiting rankings. Yes, caveat re:STARZZ, but it has also been shown that high recruiting rankings and offer sheets from top tier programs correlate the best with success. Hoke has gotten many highly recruited players which have had offers from many other programs, but the results are not evident based on the results from the field. This should be criteria solely for judging the coach and the performance the past 3 years are what should be the nail in the coffin for Hoke. 

     The only thing that there is a crossover between the AD and the state of the football team is that there has been much chatter that non of the highly attractive coaches would come and coach at Michigan if Dave Brandon had still been the AD. His inability to hire the best coach for the job because none of them would accept the job from him is the only thing that should have tied his tenure to the production by the football team, 

     In short, the AD got canned for being an ass who is hated by many, the coach is going to be fired because he's obviously made some bad decisions. I'm not going to say Hoke couldn't fix the team, but he doesn't deserve a chance to do so. If he's hamstrung the team though retaining friends who could not handle the job in the first place, he is culpable and does not deserve the chance to put it right as he's already used 4 years to make this team unable to compete.

The State Of Our Open Threads: After Indiana

The State Of Our Open Threads: After Indiana

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on November 2nd, 2014 at 8:27 AM

Well, as you might guess, whereas our collective response to games which do not go well is rather rpredictable, so is our response to games where things seem to go relatively smoothly overall for Michigan. Indeed, we only gave 36 fucks in this game, as well as 21 shits and 24 damns - and when scanned for context, some of them even positive - across a mere 1,095 posts. By far, the smallest thread in a while and the second smallest overall (Appalachian State's thread was only 831 posts large). 

At three-quarters of the way through the season, it might be a good time to show the actual year-to-date totals and averages actually:

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All in all, 4,036 instances of tracked words with our old friend "fuck" being the clear leader, but due to events beyond our control of course, a decent mix of shits and and wanting to fire someone. Indeed, yesterday, someone even wanted to fire Kevin Wilson for some reason, possibly in jest. I counted it anyway because what the hell, right?

What is notable, and again it is largely the outcome and flow of the game here, is that this was our least efficient game when it came to using the tracked language. Here is that metric for the season so far:

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After a season where we've been high strung, to say the least, this was a relaxing, civil affair in comparison. It was a pleasure to mod it actually - I have missed such times. The normalized values for major contributors shows you how Appalachian State we managed to be really:

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Yeah, things could flare up at any moment in the next three games, but between a needed change in the AD and a relatively east trouncing of Indiana, we basically gave ourselves a needed break this weekend. You can see below how happy we were indeed:

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So, if nothing else goes our way this year, we'll have Appalachian State AND Indiana...possibly Miami (OH) and Penn St. if there is another shift or two in the averages which comprise this chart.

Projected Playoff Standings Update

Projected Playoff Standings Update

Submitted by alum96 on November 2nd, 2014 at 1:03 AM

With all games in the book pending the Utah/ASU game (both teams 1 loss, the winner should move up - the loser eliminated) here is a best guess of the playoff standings out Tuesday.

Key events:

  • Florida State survived a tough road game v solid Louisville
  • TCU survived a tough road game v solid WVA
  • Ole Miss had its heart broken at the end of game v Auburn in what was basically an elimination game
  • Miss State survived Arkansas
  • Georgia self eliminated any hopes with a loss to dreadful UF
  • KSU beat down an ok OK State team
  • ECU lost to Temple - goodbye
  • Oregon whomped Stanford
  • ND survived Navy
  • UCLA eliminated Rich Rod

Top question - how far do they drop Ole Miss with 2 losses?  This should tell us a lot about the chances of the SEC getting 2 spots in the playoff.  If this last minute loss drops them outside of the top 10-12 it would  indicate the committee is going to be not much different than an AP poll and most 1 loss teams would always be ranked ahead of any 2 loss teams.

Note - KSU plays TCU next week.

Projection

  1. (1) Miss State 8-0
  2. (2) FSU 8-0
  3. (3) Auburn 7-1
  4. (5) Oregon 8-1
  5. (6) Alabama 7-1
  6. (7) TCU 7-1
  7. (8) MSU 7-1
  8. (9) KSU 7-1
  9. (10) ND 7-1
  10. (4) Ole Miss 7-2
  11. (13) Baylor 7-1
  12. (14 or 17) Winner of Utah/ASU 7-1
  13. (15) Nebraska 8-1
  14. (16) OSU 7-1
  15. (18) Oklahoma 6-2
  16. (19) LSU 7-2
  17. (11) Georgia 6-2
  18. (21) Clemson 6-2
  19. (22) UCLA 7-2
  20. (12) Arizona 6-2
  21. (14 or 17) Loser of Utah/ASU 6-2
  22. (24) Duke 7-1
  23. (UR) Wisconsin 6-2
  24. (UR) Missouri 7-2
  25. (UR) Colorado State 8-1
  26. (UR) Michigan 4-5

Second occurance of former players calling fans "muggles"

Second occurance of former players calling fans "muggles"

Submitted by TheMadGrasser on November 2nd, 2014 at 1:02 AM
I saw the Desmond thread before, but I didn't want this to get lost. I just saw some Facebook comments from some former players on the following article which was posted on FB by Elliot Mealer: LINK

The short version of the comments from said former players were that people not involved with the program created a mob to oust Brandon in order to "feel better about themselves emotionally". The follow up comment clarified "people not involved" to mean "muggles". Then another former player followed up and said "muggles...smh".

I don't know if it's just me, but this is really disappointing stuff to see. I know as an Alum and fan, this alienates me to an extent. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that these sentiments are shared amongst a lot of players. We want the best for our current athletes and students, so for them to express what I take as disdain for fans baffles me.

I guess I'm just looking for other peoples' take on the situation.

EDIT: to clarify, this is not in reference to the original Mealer tweet. This is a separate occurrence in which the comments were made on FB by a different player, not Elliot.

Edit 2: Title updated. I can see how this would be seen as redundant without reading the entire OP

Night Game (Open) Thread

Night Game (Open) Thread

Submitted by Maize_Out on November 1st, 2014 at 7:32 PM

 

7:00 PM

No. 3 Auburn at No. 4 Ole Miss

ESPN

7:00 PM

Colorado State at San Jose State

CBS Sports Network

     

7:00 PM

Old Dominion at Vanderbilt

ESPNU

7:15 PM

Arkansas at No. 1 Mississippi State

ESPN2

7:30 PM

Stanford at No. 5 Oregon

FOX

7:30 PM

Tennessee at South Carolina

7:30 PM

Texas at Texas Tech

FOX Sports 1

8:00 PM

Oklahoma State at No. 9 Kansas State

ABC

8:00 PM

No. 10 Notre Dame at Navy

CBS

8:00 PM

Illinois at No. 16 Ohio State

ABC ESPN 3

     

10:30 PM

No. 12 Arizona at No. 22 UCLA

ESPN

10:30 PM

California at Oregon State

Pac-12 Network

10:30 PM

San Diego State at Nevada

CBS Sports Network

10:45 PM

Wyoming at Fresno State

ESPN2

11:00 PM

No. 17 Utah at No. 14 Arizona State

FOX Sports 1

 

REJOICE

REJOICE

Submitted by MGomaha on November 1st, 2014 at 6:38 PM

No matter all the rumors, turmoil, and everything else surrounding the program, this is something that I think WE all needed as fans, alums, students, and everyone involved in or around the program. Seeing guys like Bo Dever and Drake Johnson shine is what this program is all about.

I don't like to get sappy, but damn is It Still Great To Be a Michigan Wolverine.

Go Blue.