Buckle Up?

Buckle Up?

Submitted by NowTameInThe603 on November 24th, 2017 at 4:40 PM

Grasping at anything positive this weekend.


Matt Dudek, the director of recruiting, likes to give a wink on twitter similar to Webb's "gut feeling" except not as specific.

He just tweeted out googly eyes, thinking emoji, wink emoji, then maize M emoji. This is probably a commit. speculate



Edit from JNewmn26: His follow up tweet was pretty promising as well. Matt DudekVerified account @Thee_Matty_D

We weren't looking for a sale but WE GOT THE BEST DEAL OF THE DAY!!! Great start to a HUGE WEEKEND! #OnToTheNextOne #GoBlue〽️

Crystal Bowl Outlook - Holiday Bowl: Michigan vs. Washington or Stanford?

Crystal Bowl Outlook - Holiday Bowl: Michigan vs. Washington or Stanford?

Submitted by markusr2007 on November 24th, 2017 at 4:01 PM

I can think of a lot of worse places than San Diego, California in late December.

What do you guys think?



Of course, I've heard of Arizona too as a potential opponent. Awkward. But fun.

Personally I like the notion of Michigan vs. PAC-12 opponent.

I'm not too excited about another match up with Mississippi State though in the Foster Farms Sausage and Hotdog Excrement bowl.

Oh well. Maybe this time Michigan will be designated the home team and wear it's home blues?





Upset Alert: Pitt (5-7) defeats #2 Miami (10-1) 24-14

Upset Alert: Pitt (5-7) defeats #2 Miami (10-1) 24-14

Submitted by BoFlex on November 24th, 2017 at 3:19 PM

Looks like the fightin' Narduzzi are turning in their 1 inexplicable upset of the season.

Edit: Miami recovers the onside kick, and driving with 1:53 left

Edit2: Welp, strip fumble recovery by Pitt and no timeouts left for Miami... game, blouses.

There is always next year... (/s)

There is always next year... (/s)

Submitted by BoFlex on November 24th, 2017 at 1:42 PM

While looking at Ohio State's official depth chart for the Michigan game, I realized how young their team will be next season. They are losing:

9 senior "starters/co-starters"

  1. LT Jamarco Jones
  2. C Billy Price
  3. TE Marcus Baugh
  4. QB JT Barrett
  5. DE Tyquan Lewis
  6. DT Tracy Sprinkle
  7. DE Jalyn Holmes
  8. LB Chris Worley
  9. S Damon Webb

Then they always seem to have a handful of early declarees each year, so potentially:

2-4 early draftees among:

  1. DE Sam Hubbard (RsJr.)
  2. RB Mike Weber (RsSo.) - Might leave because of freshman JK Dobbins
  3. DT Dre'Mont Jones (RsSo.) - Some draft projections have him in the top 2 rounds
  4. LB Jerome Baker (Jr.)
  5. CB Denzel Ward (Jr.)

Urban is potentially having to replace 12+ starters next season while Harbaugh should be rolling out a pretty experienced squad.

My futile attempt at stopping tomorrows "unacceptable" posts. OSU edition.

My futile attempt at stopping tomorrows "unacceptable" posts. OSU edition.

Submitted by wolverine1987 on November 24th, 2017 at 1:27 PM

Reading through the threads today, I'd estimate over 80% of the blog expects us to lose tomorrow, and only somewhat fewer than that expect a blowout ala Baumgardner's prediction. I also expect us to lose, and in truth see little chance of winning, and none if JOK starts. Of course there is always hope, and as one poster said "the odds against Rocky versus Drago were higher than this!" 

Expectations guide reaction to events, and as has been noted by Bill Connelly and others most of us predicted 9-3 this year, 10-2 if everything clicked. The fact that we will likely be 8-4 with our third QB (or a #2 guy that is unfortunately very bad at playing QB) and major offensive line problems is not actually that surprising. Yes disappointing, very disappointing and concerning for sure. And it's completely fair to question the coaching this year--particularly on the 0-line, whose inability to pick up stunts and twists is actually mystifying. Next year is a major year for this staff, and it will be fair to say that this staff has something to prove in 2018 to back up their deservedly good reputations. 

But this is known, and anticipated. I get that immediately after a loss people's emotions are frayed. But we should remember our predictions today, when it's time to comment tomorrow. Or not, and flame away...

And lastly, we suffered through a run of 3, 5, 7, 11, 8, 7 and 5 win seasons--one in seven that was good. We now have had two 10 win seasons, and an 8-9 win season with an acceptable explanation(s). Anyone that says the program isn't in better shape now doesn't know what they are talking about. And that despite a tough schedule there is every rational reason to expect next year will be much better. Go Blue. 

Baumgardner predicts OSU blowout

Baumgardner predicts OSU blowout

Submitted by Decatur Jack on November 24th, 2017 at 10:52 AM

Excerpt if you don't want to click:

If there's any paint left on the walls inside Michigan's offensive line room, there shouldn't be. The Wolverines' front five has now watched two different starting quarterbacks leave games and head to the hospital. That's unacceptable. At some point, enough has to be enough. Say whatever you want about the quarterback situation in Ann Arbor, but until the offensive line can show an ability to keep a guy standing upright for more than two seconds at a time, nothing else will matter. It's gut check time for plenty of folks on this football team, but the offensive line comes first.
If Peters were healthy and his offensive line showed an ability to keep him clean, I'd give Michigan a chance. But neither appear to be true. The Wolverines will no doubt empty their tank Saturday. They'll give Ohio State everything they have. They may even scare the Buckeyes. But there's not enough proven evidence in 2017 that suggests it'll be enough.

Pick: Ohio State 31, Michigan 10

Link: http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverine…

Recruiting Comparison: OSU vs UM Since 2011 (ESPN)

Recruiting Comparison: OSU vs UM Since 2011 (ESPN)

Submitted by MGoStrength on November 24th, 2017 at 9:37 AM

Most of us know this already, but I was having a discussion on another thread and it appears some don't so I decided to post it here.  This is not meant to be a Debbie Downer, just meant to illuminate that OSU is and has been for quite some time, more talented than us.  Also, you can chose a different recruiting service and get a slightly different ranking, but the general theme will be the same.  This is just since 2011 to prevent it from taking too long to put together. Without further ado here is how we compare for the last 8 years.


OSU - 16
UM - 14


OSU - 7
UM - 30


OSU - 6
UM - 7


OSU - 3
UM - 6


OSU - 7
UM - 18


OSU - 6
UM - 40


OSU - 5
UM - 6


OSU - 2
UM - 6


OSU - 6.5
UM - 15.1



  • When OSU was going through Tatgate and had the coaching change they had the #16 class.
  • When we transferred from RR to Hoke we had the #30 class.
  • When we transitioned from Hoke to Harbaugh we had the #40 class.
  • OSU's coaching change costed them an average of 10 spots.
  • Our coaching changes costed us an average of 15 spots.
  • Our top classes were #6 and #7.
  • OSU's top classes were #2 and #3 (OSU does currently have the #1 class for 2018 which projects to be a down class for us).
  • Our current freshman and sophomores are more closely ranked to theirs however our current juniors and seniors are much less talented.
  • If we both continue to recruit this way we will be similarly talented in 2 more years, albeit still slightly worse.
  • Overall even when we have years of great classes, they also have great classes which outperform us, but when we both have down years our down years are down much further than theirs.


The original point was that we are not going to out-talent OSU.  We have never really recruited better than OSU in the modern era with any consistently and probably can't project to anytime soon.  They have many of the same resources we do, but with more recent success and fewer coaching changes.  We are likely going to have to do more with less through coaching, scouting, and development.  I am not sure this is currently happening, but to be fair we still have to wait another year or two to really tell assuming both Harbaugh & Meyer are still around.

Uniforms for The Game

Uniforms for The Game

Submitted by Swayze Howell Sheen on November 24th, 2017 at 5:19 AM

Apparently (according to this article), UM-OSU sometimes used to go "red vs blue" uniforms in the Game (up until the mid 50's or so). The apparent reason for change: hard to distinguish colors on black+white TV.

I am really hoping that Brian and co. take this on and get UM to push for it again. How cool would it be to see home uni vs. home uni in the rivalry of all rivalries? As many of you know, UCLA-USC has been doing this for a while (thanks to "What's your problem?" Pete Carrol).

Here is a colorized pic from the article; weirdly, it looks like Mich vs. Wisc, so not a great point being made here:

So what do you think? Wouldn't this be an awesome addition to The Game?