How does MBB become a truly elite program?

How does MBB become a truly elite program?

Submitted by WindyCityBlue on March 30th, 2015 at 12:18 PM

Over the weekend, I was having a conversation with a couple of Michigan fans regarding the "elite" status of our program.  All agreed that we are not really an elite program.  While we have shown flashes of it lately, we really needed to maintain some level of consistency and sustainability to really be considered elite.  Also, we all agreed that we are likely in that second tier below the traditional elite programs (Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, etc).

Where opinions started to differ, was whether we can truly EVER be an elite program given the state of college basketball.  One guy was very much like many on this board: we can't be a Duke or Kansas etc. and that just the way it is and there is nothing we can do about it.  A couple of us, including myself, we're less satisfied and more bullish about where this program can go.  To get to that next level of college programs will largely be dictated by winning more big games on a big stage.  And in doing so, we think the following things need to happen (in no particular order):

1. Recruit slightly better talent-wise (i.e. more stars) than what we currently do and more consistantly.  There seems to be a high correlation between talent and winning (duh!).  Finding diamonds in the rough are great, but seems as though you can't build a sustainable elite program on them.  

2. Spearhead a change in NCAA regulations around recruiting.  Third hand accounts suggest recruiting is a dirty business, and one in which we will not partake.  This obviously hurts our ability to recruit top talent and address the issue in point #1 above.  For example, if we can somehow lead an effort to push the NCAA to adopt a hockey type model for recruits (in essence mitigating the one-and-done effect) and implementing tighter regulation around some of the recutiing filth (i.e. bagmen, etc), we can be more competitive regarding recruiting.

3. Coaching profile.  I like JB.  I think he is one of the best minds in the game.  I wish we got him when he was younger.   Our opinion: the best model in college basketball is to find a young, talented, hungry coach that will stay ~20+ years in the program, implementing best practices and innovative basketball methodologies (i.e. Coach K, Izzo, Boehiem, etc.).  This would give the program an "identity" that resonates well with top recruits across a couple generations. There are obvious excpetions here.

So what are your thoughts?  How can Michigan become a truly elite college basketball program? Or perhaps you think we already are an elite program.  Would be curious to hear those thoughts too.

Some good basketball news today (Jaylen Brown)

Some good basketball news today (Jaylen Brown)

Submitted by bballislife22 on March 29th, 2015 at 6:29 PM

Good news on the Jaylen Brown front. Definitely do not want to copy and paste straight from Scout, but to paraphrase a little bit, two separate sources (Sam Webb and Brian Snow) have heard that not only is Michigan in the running for Brown's services next year, but that we are in the top TWO. Both insiders are unsure who the other team in the top two would be. Kentucky, Kansas, and UCLA are possibilities. 

For those who have a Scout membership, the information can be found here: 

http://michigan.scout.com/forums/1088-the-victors-club/13768960-jaylen-…

Trying not to get my hopes up too high here, but I think if we somehow scored Brown, and Caris came back, we would be a top five team next year. 

WNIT Open Thread

WNIT Open Thread

Submitted by Team 101 on March 29th, 2015 at 3:21 PM

WBB is playing Southern Mississippi in Hattiesburg in the quarterfinals of the WNIT.  There is live audio on mgoblue.com.  The only video is on a subscription service through the Southern Miss website.

A win will launch us into the final four.  Go Blue!!

NCAA Basketball Tournament - Nailing Down The Final Four (Open Thread)

NCAA Basketball Tournament - Nailing Down The Final Four (Open Thread)

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on March 29th, 2015 at 2:12 PM

Alright, folks, we've got half of the Final Four - we'll know the other half today. On CBS, we have:

2:20 PM - Michigan State vs. Louisville (line is MSU -2.5, I think)

5:05 PM - Duke vs. Gonzaga (line is Duke -2.0, last I saw)

My picks in the ESPN Bracket were Louisville and Duke, but I have MSU and Gonzaga in my yearly "chaos bracket" too. 

NCAA Tournament - Trimming Down The Elite Eight (Open Thread)

NCAA Tournament - Trimming Down The Elite Eight (Open Thread)

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on March 28th, 2015 at 6:20 PM

Two teams will make an exit tonight, but for now, you've got:

Wisconsin / Arizona - going right now on TBS. 10-2 Wisconsin with 16:09 to go in the 1st.

Later on:

Notre Dame / Kentucky - that could be intriguing

 

Kentucky site compares Notre Dame this year to UM last year

Kentucky site compares Notre Dame this year to UM last year

Submitted by k.o.k.Law on March 28th, 2015 at 3:28 PM

UK blog site  (http://www.aseaofblue.com/2015/3/28/8304713/kentucky-vs-notre-dame-a-st…) comparisons Notre Dame with last year's UM team:

The truth is that Notre Dame is a quality opponent, they went 3-1 against Duke and North Carolina this year.  They are great offensively, well coached, and may have the best player on the floor in Jerian Grant.  Notre Dame is basically 2014 Michigan wearing green and gold instead of maize and blue.

MichNDCompare

In essence, Kentucky has already played this game, it was in last year's elite 8 as well.  The difference is that the Wildcats are much better this year.

Spike weighing multiple hip surgeries

Spike weighing multiple hip surgeries

Submitted by Ivan Karamazov on March 27th, 2015 at 10:11 AM

Quick interview from Brendan Quinn over on Mlive with Spike on the hip injury that was bothering him all season.  New info to me was that it is not just one hip, but both that could require surgery to reduce pain.  Touches mainly on the tough decision to potentially miss all of spring/summer, or continue to train through the pain and then most likely play your entire senior season in pain.

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/03/spike_albrecht_weighing_option.html

First thread topic, so apologies if formatting or link are screwed up.

March Madness: Sweet 16 (Thursday) [OPEN THREAD]

March Madness: Sweet 16 (Thursday) [OPEN THREAD]

Submitted by Mr. Yost on March 26th, 2015 at 7:15 PM
NCAA Tournament Games
TIME (ET) MATCHUP TV
7:15 PM (7) Wichita St vs (3) Notre Dame* CBS
7:47 PM (4) North Carolina vs (1) Wisconsin* TBS
9:45 PM (5) West Virginia vs (1) Kentucky* CBS
10:17 PM (6) Xavier vs (2) Arizona* TBS