Expectations for the next 3 MBB games

Expectations for the next 3 MBB games

Submitted by LS And Play on January 2nd, 2016 at 8:03 PM

Michigan basketball is entering a possibly season-defining three-game stretch against 3 ranked teams (Iowa will be after they beat MSU and Purdue in consecutive games). We play at Purdue, vs. Maryland and at Iowa. It reminds me of January 2014 when Michigan played at Wisconsin, vs. Iowa and at MSU and went 3-0.

What are the expectations from everyone in these three games? I think a 1-2 record would be holding serve, and anything on top of that is gravy. Hopefully Caris will be healthy for Purdue and going forward!

Go Blue! 

Did the MSU basketball team violate an NCAA rule concerning impermissible benefits?

Did the MSU basketball team violate an NCAA rule concerning impermissible benefits?

Submitted by ST3 on January 1st, 2016 at 1:24 AM

At the MSU-Bama game tonight, they showed coach Izzo and the MSU basketball team.


After the Spartans lost their Big Ten basketball opener at Iowa on Tuesday night, they were told they were flying to Minnesota for a few days in advance of their next game Saturday against the Golden Gophers. But players got a surprise on the plane when they found out they were instead going to Texas to see the Spartans play Alabama in the Cotton Bowl.

NCAA rule 16.01.1 states:

A student-athlete shall not receive any extra benefit. Receipt by a student-athlete of an award, benefit or expense allowance not authorized by NCAA legislation renders the student-athlete ineligible for athletics competition in the sport for which the improper award, benefit, or expense was received. In the student-athlete receives an extra benefit not authorized by NCAA legislation, the individual is ineligible in all sports.

The rule continues:

For violations of Bylaw 16 in which the benefit is $100 or less, the eligibility of the student-athlete shall not be affected conditioned upon the student-athlete repaying the value of the benefit to a charity of his or her own choice.


Receipt of a benefit by student-athletes or their relatives or friends is not a violation of NCAA legislation if it is demonstrated that the same benefit is generally available to the institution's students or their relatives or friends or to a particular segment of the student body (e.g., foreign students, minority students) determined on a basis unrelated to athletics ability.

Clearly, the benefit exceeds $100. I also assume that this benefit is not generally available to the institution's students. This would seem like a benefit that is much more substantial than whether or not their bagels had cream cheese on the.m. I bet nothing comes of this, but I'd love to see Izzo and his program run into a little trouble as a result of this.

MSU might argue that this situation is covered by rule 16.9.1. However, it's interesting that the rules allow tickets for HOME events in other sports ( but they specify HOME events, leading one to believe that away events in other sports (like the bowl game tonight) would not be permissible.

Re: Dirty Basketball Programs; e.g., Claims From Former Cincinnati Asst. Coach

Re: Dirty Basketball Programs; e.g., Claims From Former Cincinnati Asst. Coach

Submitted by MLaw06 on December 27th, 2015 at 10:48 PM

While we're speaking about dirty basketball programs... I thought of this article I read a few days ago.  I didn't see it floated on MGoBlog yet and the claims are quite damning. 

Makes me glad we're not dealing with this bs. 

"I questioned my integrity, where my life was going, 'cause I was living a lie," Hmiel said. "I felt like I was a pimp or prostitute myself, selling myself for the University of Cincinnati to bring players in, and looking at moms and dads and flat-out lying. And lying to kids. And lying to their coaches, to their girlfriends or whoever was their key adviser, saying the right things that they wanted to hear.

"The truth sometimes hurts, so you didn't tell the truth as a recruiter.  You lied. 'Trust me, I'm lying,' was almost my motto."

For most of his life, and in some cases for 40 years, Hmiel carried a guilty conscience and a stash of secrets arguably more damning than the infractions that earned Cincinnati a two-year NCAA probation in 1978. He admits to taking tests for prized players to keep them eligible, to steering players who were no longer wanted to hard classes in the hope they'd flunk out, to plying high school recruits with alcohol and cash, to faking Julius Erving's signature on recruiting correspondence, to placing late-night collect calls to recruits in the name of rival coaches, to behaving, by his own admission, like a "slimeball," a "low-life crumb," "a snake in the grass."

How low did he go? Once, while teaching a basketball class at Cincinnati, Hmiel says he assigned an athlete in another sport a D grade for B-quality work to accommodate a coach eager to free up a scholarship. Another time, as the basketball team's academic adviser, Hmiel deliberately overscheduled a player until he became academically ineligible and transferred.


Interesting convo I had with a prominant Chicago HS basketball coach

Interesting convo I had with a prominant Chicago HS basketball coach

Submitted by WindyCityBlue on December 27th, 2015 at 9:17 PM

So, I had the opportunity to speak with a Chicago HS basketball luminary in a casual situation earlier today.  I won't drop his name at this point, but he coached some of Chicago's best talent over the past 30 years at a couple well known Chicago high schools.  He apparently just retired this year.  I asked some very pointed questions about basketball topics, specifically regarding college recruiting, and he (thankfully) did not hold back on giving me some very candid and real answers.  Thought I would share with the board:

1. College bball recruiting is extremely dirty (duh!)

2. While he thinks the NCAA does their best to monitor this, he seems to believe that college coaches are much smarter and can "stay ahead" of the NCAA.  He says there are very sophisticated ways to pay players and their families without suspicion.

3. Coach K - dirty as hell (I was kinda surprised by this)

4. Coach Cal - dirty as hell (duh!)

5. Coach Pitino - dirty as hell (duh!)

5. Izzo - sends his assitants to do his dirty work.  He says he was offered money from Dwayne Stephens on several recent occasions for particular recruits (although I don't know if he actually accepted the money).  He thinks that Izzo is not as bad as others though.  Izzo has a lot of respect in Chicago and is not normally known for playing dirty.  However, his people told him that Izzo's recent recruting success is no doubt from some "below the belt" tactics.

6. The Jabari Parker recruitment was surprising clean on a relative scale.

7. As for Michigan/JB - clean, very clean, but too clean.  Most promimant Chicago HS coaches stay away from Michigan because Michigan won't be part of the "recruiting machine" in Chicago.  They think JB is a good coach but teaches "white boy" basketball.  He basically says Michigan/JB has no respect in Chicago anymore.

I mentioned I was a Michigan fan and talked some more about our program.  He has tons of respect for us becasue he had lots of interaction with Michigan many years ago.  Back in the 90s, Michigan was THE school for Chicago's best talent.  He says we were not a clean program then, but he says that no one was and Michigan was no different than any other major program.  He seems to think we have little to no chance with big time recruits in any major city without getting a little dirty. 

He had some funny things to say about Amaker, but I'll save for later.

Anyway, thought I would share with the board.  What are your thoughts?  Would you be OK with getting a little dirty to get better recruits?  Are you OK with being a super clean program now that can't consistent compete on the big stage?