OT- Baseball Closers

OT- Baseball Closers

Submitted by Ziff72 on April 24th, 2011 at 8:36 AM

I've had this thought for a while and I wondered what people thought of it or if they have seen any statistical analysis(some searches turned up nothing) that could back it up or prove it wrong.

My thought is that saving your closer(best relief pitcher) for the end of the game doesn't really make any sense and that you should use your closer in the tightest spot not the end of the game to maximize his value.

Currently the conventional wisdom is to save your closer until you have the lead and have him pitch the 9th inning to close the game.  Depending on how much work he has had or the coaches mood sometimes they will bring them in in tied games or extra innings.  It seems often times that closers don't work as many innings as they should and that many games that potentially could be saved or won are lost because of this.   Here are a few scenarios to illustrate my point.

You are playing St Louis and you are up 2 runs in the 7th inning.   St. Louis has 1 out and a runner on 1st base,  up to bat is Matt Holliday and on deck is Albert Pujols.  The manager takes out the starter and brings in a reliever(because of the situation he is probably the 2nd or 3rd best reliever).  Considering the situation in this game and the quality of hitters coming up I contend you should bring in your best pitcher in this situation.  If we were the Yankees I would bring in Rivera right now and try to protect my lead right here.   I'll take my chances with my other pitchers against the bottom of the order later.  Rivera is my best pitcher I want to use him as much as I can without burning him out and I want him in the most intense situations.  This game could be lost right here with a big inning and Rivera would never even see the field.

It's the 6th inning and you are down 2.  The bases are loaded and 2 outs.   A hit here cracks this game wide open an out keeps you right in it.  I bring in my stud to get this out and then hold the next inning while I try to mount a comeback.  

The downside to this theory is that at the end of the game there would be times you don't have your best pitcher around so you could potentially blow more games and depending on wether you believe only certain guys can handle the last inning pressure they could blow more saves than the "closer" saved games when he pitched earlier. I don't buy into the 9th inning is a differnt pressure theory and obviosuly I think there are more games to be won than lost by shuffling your pitcher lineup around.

So in closing I think that your best pitchers should be utilized againt the other teams best hitters and/or the most crucial situations and not always the the end of the game to best utilize the talents of your staff.  

Your thoughts?







OT: Misopogon's "Passover Song" on BYB

OT: Misopogon's "Passover Song" on BYB

Submitted by Seth on April 20th, 2011 at 3:57 PM

You know about me and Wolverines, but I'm also big on Red Wings, and the Tigers are my things

My Wright Stache blog is now defunct, but I still do some baseball writing over at the SBNation Tigers blog, Bless You Boys.

Hank didn't like gefilte fish either

Rest assured, I'll still get a post up this week on MGo, but if you're going unleavened this week, or just like lists of Jewish baseball players a whole lot, here's my lastest BYB post, with sincerest apologies to Adam Sandler:

Passover is, our Exodus strategy,
Instead of fish in April, we get no bread for a week.
So if you feel like the only kid in town, without an egg to paint,
Here's a list of baseball players who are Jewish, just like Pete Rose ain't....

Over there:

M Baseball

M Baseball

Submitted by vegasjeff on April 9th, 2011 at 1:53 AM

I miss the series previews of Wolverine baseball we enjoyed last spring.

Now that hockey is almost finished (with grabbing a national title) and spring football is about half done, we're going to enter the long, dry season before football starts gearing up again.

Are there any folks with UM baseball knowledge who can (and will) enlighten us with previews, updates or analysis now that the Big Ten season is in full swing?

We are getting M softball updates -- a great thing -- but it seems like baseball would generate at least as much interest.



OT: Mgoblog Fantasy Baseball (ESPN)

OT: Mgoblog Fantasy Baseball (ESPN)

Submitted by redwings8831 on March 29th, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Anybody interested in joining a Mgoblog league? I know there was one created on yahoo about a month ago, but I'm going to create one on ESPN for those who either didn't join that one or want to join another.

I'm thinking about having 16 teams with four divisions. Eight teams will make the playoffs which will take place during weeks 22-24. Teams will play the other teams in their division three times and the other 12 teams once.

The draft is currently set for tomorrow (Wednesday) at 10 PM EST. If you are interested, post here and send me an e-mail at [email protected] with you're mgoblog username and I'll send you an invite.

Question for the Bubble Watchers?

Question for the Bubble Watchers?

Submitted by cp4three2 on March 8th, 2011 at 1:32 AM


This seems really weird, but St. Mary's has a game after their conference tournament.  It seems like they're considered a lock now despite losing their conference tournament, but what if they lose to Weber State?  Could that knock them off?  Weber seems to be pretty crappy with an above 100 RPI, could even winning this game hurt their resume?


Also, has a team ever scheduled a game after their conference tournament before this?



OT -- Idiot's Guide to Finding a Baseball Team to Root For

OT -- Idiot's Guide to Finding a Baseball Team to Root For

Submitted by Moleskyn on March 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 PM

With Spring Training in full swing, and the regular season in the on-deck circle I thought this handy-dandy flow chart would help any of those folks out there unsure as to who to root for once the season starts:

Baseball flow chart


For the record, I will punch you in the face if you look at me funny.

Edit: Sorry for the size. For whatever reason, the image doesn't want to respond to the size limits I put on it.

Edit edit: See Misopogon's post if you didn't get to the link in time.