alum96

May 1st, 2024 at 1:25 PM ^

This really goes against what Michigan is mostly doing.  I realize they have gotten 3-4 dudes out of the portal annually but they have been relying on NILing their home grown talent mostly.  Now many of these guys won't be sticking around long enough to wait their turn to be a home grown talent.  

This era sucks.

massblue

April 30th, 2024 at 6:12 PM ^

Question: What is the optimal recruiting strategy in the age of portal given that a limited amount of NIL is available.

  • Is it optimal to have a relatively small class of 4-5 stars, spending a good chunk of the NIL money on each recruiting class? Then using the small amount of NIL left to bring a group of proven 3 stars.
  • Is it optimal to have a relatively large class of 3 stars, spending very little? Then, going to the portal aggressively the following year to bring in proven players. At the same time letting some of those 3 stars know that they should be looking elsewhere.
  • Other suggestions?

iawolve

April 30th, 2024 at 7:33 PM ^

At that point, you need a salary cap expert to help you determine the correct spend based on what you need. I assume positions will get ranges for NIL and you fall into the range or another team takes you by paying more. It would be the craziest thing to get some NFL front office person to set up your "salary" structure and assign the value to positions. You either have the most and pay the most or you moneyball it better than anyone else.  

Blau

April 30th, 2024 at 7:57 PM ^

Honestly, does HS recruiting matter much anymore and if so, does anyone feel an intrinsic connection to the current team or players?

I’m happy the players have more freedom and opportunities to profit from their NIL but I feel after Team 144, we can probably go ahead and remove any reminder of the phrase “Those who stay will be champions” from the history books. It’s basically Latin in terms of relevancy nowadays.

 

CityOfKlompton

April 30th, 2024 at 11:03 PM ^

Yes. The vast majority of transfers seem to transfer somewhere they already have a connection in which an assistant or head coach has moved to. Recruiting, even in the age of the portal, is still largely based on relationships that begin to be built while a player is but a middle-teenager.

 

Yes, there are some that are strictly about NIL, but for the most part you can usually find a previous connection.

93Grad

April 30th, 2024 at 8:40 PM ^

Great question and one that programs like Michigan will continue to wrestle with.   We will never be like OSU that till do everything it can to maximize spending at all levels.  We have to be smarter and operate in a Money ball kind of way. 

ex dx dy

May 1st, 2024 at 8:03 AM ^

I wonder if that's a Harbaugh versatility thing. Seems like, depending on exact body type, you can plausibly switch from LB to just about any non-OL position on the field. We've seen EDGE, TE, RB, and S happen. Maybe Harbaugh thinks if you get a bunch of LBs they may be able to fill holes elsewhere as needed.

Rhino77

April 30th, 2024 at 5:02 PM ^

Seems to be one or two young kids leave and they all talk to each other and more follow suit like it’s a genius idea. 

Reminds me of when Charles wanted to leave so Lloyd called his Mom and Momma Woodson set Charles straight. 

Not enough parents are willing to tell their kids “WTF are you thinking?!” 

Carpetbagger

April 30th, 2024 at 5:55 PM ^

One of the biggest reasons I'm opposed to using them for anything more than depth or surefire starters. And then sparingly.

We got a kicker and might get a guy back who wants to be a wideout. Unless some QB comes along who is darn good, I would prefer to stand pat. There are guys who've been waiting patiently in the DB and Oline rooms. I think we'll be fine.  

Double-D

April 30th, 2024 at 6:34 PM ^

This is the thing that is disappointing.

Granted we are not inside the practices but this kid seemed talented, and unless you just got blown past by kids in your class or behind, it would seem you would want to develop in the system and become a better football player.

I don’t see him walking into a major program and getting immediate playing time but I guess we will see. 

schreibee

April 30th, 2024 at 8:05 PM ^

I guess we will see indeed. 

We can't possibly know the depth chart of 100+ college football teams, or their NIL offers, or whether the player would rather be closer to home after all (Moore is from Colorado, linked to Nebraska at one time iirc).

When Waller departed the day after showing some skill at the Spring game I was pretty sure NIL was the motivation. But with Moore, there are multiple reasons he might want to head elsewhere. 

njvictor

April 30th, 2024 at 5:03 PM ^

Gotta think either 1 of 2 things is happening:

  • Players don't like BJM and/or want to play for someone who actually recruited them
  • Cole Sullivan is dominating in practice the point where these guys don't see any point in sticking around

bronxblue

April 30th, 2024 at 6:13 PM ^

I suspect BJM is liked enough by players - he's a crack recruiter and has gotten kudos at UM and UT from former players as a good guy.  But I do suspect some of these young guys don't see basically anyone left on the staff they know and probably want a chance to play somewhere else.  I also have a sense that UM wasn't super happy with some of these guys given who they've targeted in the portal, and while that sucks it's better now that guys can move on instead of being buried for 3-4 years.

I do think recruiting at UM is in a weird spot with the staff turnover and they'll need to figure out what they're looking for under Wink and target those guys in this cycle or they're going to have a hole in the roster in a year or two.