John Harbaugh on Rich Eisen's Show: He loved some of the people there - probably.

Submitted by LB on May 3rd, 2024 at 9:10 AM

1:20 in, referring to Jim and Michigan: 'he loved some of the people there - probably.'

RealElonMusk

May 3rd, 2024 at 9:17 AM ^

Pretty obvious they were referring to Warde -   on people Jim Harbaugh didn't love-  video makes it clear that Harbaugh loved the players and coaches.

Unfortunately we seem to be stuck with Warde until/unless he does something stupid -  maybe we can introduce him to Mel Tucker?

Buffalowing Blue

May 3rd, 2024 at 9:27 AM ^

You know at first I was pissed about Harbaugh thinking about leaving for years then finally leaving, but the B10 was never going to stop going after him.  They would have suspended him 5 games if he gave the team Vitamin D chewables.  Who the fuck wants to deal with that every year?  He went out on top with a big FU to the conference  and possibly Warde. He's going to be under a little less stress now without the daily recruiting grind and constant turnover in college.

the_dude

May 3rd, 2024 at 10:13 AM ^

Jim was pushing for revenue sharing with the players and gave his performance bonus to AD employees who saw their compensation take a hit during Covid, so it's no shock the NCAA and AD found that distasteful. They couldn't get rid of Jim fast enough. Guys like Mel Tucker who are given a bonus pool for their coaching staff but pocket that money for themselves are a better fit for the current state of college football. Phonies like Dabo Swinney who talk about quitting the game if the players feel entitled to the billions of dollars in the sport are the kind of people the NCAA support.

Dunder

May 3rd, 2024 at 10:14 AM ^

I really believe it is baked in to Harbaugh that he was never going to be one of those 25 years in one place guys.  That doesn't exclude the notion that all this NCAA/BiG bullshit didn't impact his decision this year.

Just grateful that UM got some great years, including the best 3 year run he has put together anywhere. 

SC Wolverine

May 3rd, 2024 at 10:58 AM ^

It's a drag that Harbaugh felt it was time to go, but the only thing we can do is say, "Thank you, Jimmy."  He restored the program and fulfilled everything we dreamed when he agreed to come back as our coach.  We don't own the guy, and he wants to win a Super Bowl.  Plus, he was never one of the college good 'ol boy network and didn't want to be, so the other coaches were always going to try to bring him down through off-the-field scheming.  Who needs that?  So, thank you, Jim!  We will always love you and be grateful for your years coaching Michigan.

MaynardST

May 3rd, 2024 at 11:54 AM ^

I'm not sure about the less stress.  Regardless of what Warde thought, Michigan probably would never have fired Harbaugh unless he shot somebody.  There is definitely more pressure to win in LA, or else. Also, he always loved recruiting.  Remember he was out recruiting high school players for his dad when he was still playing in the NFL.

jmblue

May 3rd, 2024 at 12:07 PM ^

It’s worth remembering that Harbaugh was never linked to any NFL jobs his first six years here.  He dismissed any rumors out of hand as coming from “jive turkeys” and there was no reason to doubt him. 

Things changed after 2021.  Suddenly he was keeping his options open each offseason.  It seems in retrospect that his relationship with Manuel was irreparably damaged around that point.  Maybe it was the pay cut, or other issues like NIL, but something definitely changed between them.  By 2023 we had him announcing to Ono, not Manuel, that he was staying, while Manuel chose to skip the team banquet in December.  And the NCAA/Big Ten joint witch hunt probably didn’t help any.  

jbibiza

May 3rd, 2024 at 1:00 PM ^

Good point that the fiasco of the covid season was the beginning of the end for JH staying with us. At the time it was hard for me to to believe that so many knowlwdgeable people on the blog and elswhere  wanted to ditch JH after 2020  ("Matt Campbell!!"). I ranted, to anyone who was unfortunate enough to hear me, that losing the perfect coach for Michigan was insanity.

And then idiot Warde cuts his salary in favor of performance bonuses - as if JH needed any extra impetus to do all he could to WIN... at his beloved Alma Matar... in the shadow of Bo.  Sheesh!  It was a massive insult, and that was when he "did not feel the love".  Perhaps we could have healed that wound, but not standing firmly behind him during the bullshit investigations last year was the last straw.  So he turned the other cheek, brought Michigan to heights we had never reached before, and left on his own terms.  He will always be my coach.

Robbie Moore

May 3rd, 2024 at 9:32 AM ^

We knew from the get go that Harbaugh was hard to get along with if you were (nominally) his supervisor. It was inevitable that there would be conflict with an execucrat like Warde. But make no mistake that the success of the Michigan football program is about Harbaugh. Warde was best served standing aside and cheerleading, which his ego prevented him from doing. So we got passive aggressive undermining, like the suspensions last season which Warde did little or nothing to prevent.

Mr Miggle

May 3rd, 2024 at 11:13 AM ^

Even if Warde was willing to battle tooth and nail with the NCAA, it wasn't his decision to make. Michigan got exactly the kind of AD they wanted when they hired Warde, or that they deserved, if you prefer.

He knows his role. Stays out of the limelight. Respects the Michigan tradition and takes care of the money. He's never going to put Michigan on the cutting edge of anything new or controversial.  He has none of the most objectionable traits of his predecessor Of course, I don't mean Jim Hackett, who had the job on an interim basis.

oldcityblue

May 3rd, 2024 at 10:56 PM ^

Isn't it "go to the mat"? As in, a wrestling term? "Go to the mattress" is weird - "Go to the mattresses" makes no sense whatsoever; like there is a large, dark warehouse filled with twin mattresses - placed in a grid -and this is the place to go and do battle.

Oddly enough, that does seem like an appropriate place for which one would do battle against the NCAA.

ex dx dy

May 3rd, 2024 at 10:14 AM ^

That's not how any of this works. The NCAA had to finish their investigation no matter what Michigan did in the way of self-imposed sanctions. The idea behind the suspension of Harbaugh was that it would act as "time served" when the NCAA eventually determined what the penalty would be. So if the NCAA decided on a 4-game suspension, there would only be 1 game left to serve. No one expected the NCAA to stop their investigation because Michigan self-imposed sanctions; that's just not how self-imposed sanctions work.

That being said, Warde is probably not a good AD. But if you're going to bash him, at least bash him based on realistic knowledge of how his job works.

MGlobules

May 3rd, 2024 at 10:32 AM ^

Yeah, he may suck. I certainly wish he had been more vocal in defense of the school a good many times, now. In truth he seems like. . . corporate man, now maybe with his eye on the next job. But what real pressures he's under, from who. . . so much of we get here is pure speculation. Sentiment tends to settle around a select few narratives for which, even now, there's not a lot of real evidence. From some people's close-up viewpoint, Warde may have moved heaven and earth to get Michigan through and to the championship, with everything else being. . . far less important. 

Drenasu

May 3rd, 2024 at 12:17 PM ^

Yeah, I think people are forgetting how that was supposed to work.  There was a negotiation with the NCAA over 4 games that fell through for whatever reason.  The plan was to suspend him for 3 body bag games to start 2023 and that if he got another one after investigation and time served, it would be Fresno State next year.  Crucially, he would be available for Texas.  It also ended the PR noise at that time which was quite annoying.  This was prior to all the Stallions stuff being known which ratcheted up the annoying to 11.

The plan was aggravating, but very tenable and likely to cause no damage/losses so I get why it was the route they went with.  It was only the absolute BS that came from the Stallions stuff that made that look weaker in hindsight, but at the time, it was a reasonable approach.

SeaWolv

May 4th, 2024 at 1:35 AM ^

I'm referring specifically to the restraining order that Michigan threatened to file against the B1G and never followed through on. The conference clearly misapplied their own rule (based on how it's been used historically) and imposed a premature penalty that proceeded an incomplete NCAA investigation. It was also done so in a deliberate manner to maximize damage to the Michigan Football program by announcing the suspension a couple of hours ahead of a huge game at PSU. 

Warde should have been leading the charge to support Harbaugh in the media and in the courtroom.

Lou MacAdoo

May 3rd, 2024 at 11:15 AM ^

Harbaugh's actions and decisions forced Warde to assert control. When Harbaugh is constantly poking the NCAA and skirting rules, who do you think has to deal with them. Not Harbaugh, it's Warde. When Harbaugh makes questionable hires, Schemy, superfan Stallions, or has guys on staff that are breaking the law/not following University policy, Weiss and Partridge, it kind of forces his boss to take action. I think it's probably a very difficult job Mr. Warde has and I'm sure he's made mistakes, but it seems him and Harbaugh butting heads was inevitable because Harbaugh is gonna Harbaugh

MichaelCarras

May 3rd, 2024 at 2:30 PM ^

Setting everything else you said aside,  what is it you think Chris Partidge did? Go ahead. I want you to write out what you think he did that was so awful And whatever it is you think he did, you think it was a fireable offense? Because I don''t. https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2023/12/13/michigan-football-assistant-coach-chris-partridge-fired-termination-letter/71911322007/

The university did fire Chris Partridge. And they may have been within their rights. But that doesn't mean what they did was morally right. They offered him as a sacrifice to make it appear they were taking this whole investigation very seriously.

Magnus

May 3rd, 2024 at 9:47 AM ^

One of the first things we heard when Jim Harbaugh got hired at Michigan was that he would wear out his welcome, he's tough to work with, etc. This generally seems to be because he challenges UPWARD, not sideways or downward. 

It's noteworthy that the people who have had the most friction with Jim have been Warde, Trente Baalke, NCAA and Big Ten administrators, etc. There have been very few issues with players and coaches, even though they far outnumber the administrators above Jim. (Yes, some players transferred out of Michigan, but that happens to every single coach.)

So none of us should be surprised that Warde and Jim do not have the greatest relationship. It's part of the cost of doing business with Jim Harbaugh.

SalvatoreQuattro

May 3rd, 2024 at 9:55 AM ^

I suspect his time in LA will be shorter than people think. The Chargers ownership is notoriously bad. It is worse than anything Harbaugh has ever had to deal with before.


Tigers don’t change their stripes. Especially egomaniacal billionaires. I give it three years before Spanos fires Harbaugh and tries to weasel out of paying him the rest of his contract.