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|2 days 4 hours ago||Urb running circles around Hoke||
If Franklin comes in and starts doing the same UM is in real trouble. He is already off to a great start and has the best pro QB in the conf (soph at that). UM could be looking at 4th in the divison....I've ready given up in 1st. OL and running game is just too terrible to make that kind of a leap.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||he is as gone as Stauskas||
He is the tourney MVP right now..
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Levert to be B1G Player of the year next season||
It will be between him and Yogi and I think UM winning the conf title again will be enough to give him the nod.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||We can't run with Duke||
There offense is just as good as ours but they have shown that they can D us up if they need to. UM has not shown they can D up anyone let alone Duke. Advantage Duke.
Coach K will NOT let Staukas beat them. More importantly, they can stick athletic guys with more quickness and relatively the same height on Stauskas ( T. Thorton is 6'4''). They don't have to put small 6' guys on Stauskas...
Finally, Duke practically invented the 3ball game. They know how to stop 3s. They will give up drives and penetration all game long but that does not play to our strengths.
It will take a very hot night from 3 from the likes of Walton and Irvin to beat Duke. Levert will drive on them like crazy again bc Duke will give us that. Stauskas will not be able to drive and will have to shoot contested 3s or get backdoor cuts.
Duke is like the worst matchup IMO.
|7 weeks 20 hours ago||Graham Brown? really?||
yikes, he drove me crazy. Couldn't understand how a guy that big could not rebound..
I will say Lavall Blanchard (was actually not bad) and of couse Dom "Bomb" Ingerson. Dom Bomb would launch it like he was Stauskas...but Stauskas he was not.
I was part of the original Maize rage back then, I believe it started the year before my freshman year 01'.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||exactly||
Just look at who was drafted to the NBA from the top B1G teams last year (and who stayed ie G Harris, McGary, GRIII). Much more talent at the top at a player level for the B1G last year then this year. IU lost a ton, UM lost a lot, OSU lost its best stuff.
Thats why the bottom of the B1G looks better this year. The top is just weaker. Remember UM was never outside the top ten all season last year in the polls...
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I think looking at the top is the best way to go||
You use Wisc to sort of debunk that but you must admit that is a very rare scenario where a team beats two conf champs out of conference then finds a way to lose 5 conference games itself....just a weird scenario.
I mean I don't care how you spin it IU, northwestern, and Minnesota are not very good teams and they all beat Wisc. You'd never say those three are on par with UVA or Florida would you? Even if Wisc beat UVA and Florida.
Plus I think the big issue is its very hard to compare "middle tier" teams which by definition are going to have a decent amount of losses. How do you compare 9-11 loss teams across conferences objectively? How good can you really be with that many losses. If we we are saying the B1G 9-12 loss teams (middle tier) are "good" then by definition we are now saying the Big Ten has 9-10 "good teams". I just don't by it that a conf can have that many "good teams" and still think it has any elite teams. Elite teams would not have lost that many times to allow a conf to have 10 "good" teams.
I think being good top to bottom is great for a conference and actually helps B1G teams in the tourney as they are more battle tested. I just think it doesn't mean much in terms of perception of the conference as a whole.
In football I feel the same way. The SEC #6-7 teams are almost always better than the B1G or any other conference but who cares if they win some bowl game before Jan 1st. I roll my eyes at SEC fans bragging about their 6th best team just like I do B1G fans talking about their 6th best bball team that will probably lose opening wknd of the tourney and be forgotten. Nobody cares.
In football, its all about new years day bowls and the BCS. Win those (esp BCS) and your conference perception goes through the roof. I feel like making elite 8 is like winning a BCS bowl (mainly due to the random nature of 1 and done NCAA tourney..ie matchups). Pretty much every program would consider an elite 8 trip or BCS win a great season. Outside of a couple heavily favored teams each season (Bama in football, loaded Kentucky or Duke team in Bball).
|7 weeks 4 days ago||BIG is way down vs last year||
B1G is behind the ACC and probably on par with the B12 this season.
The B1G has a lot of depth top to bottom but that is overrated IMO. Nobody cares how good your 6-8th best teams are. In football or bball. Sure its great in BBall do to RPI, SOS, and all the metrics used for seeding. But at the end of the year when judging conferences nobody looks at your 6-8th best teams.
Its all about how good your top tier is and for that reason I give the nod to the ACC bc their top tier is better than the B1G this season. Last year with MSU, IU, OSU, and UM all legit final four contenders that was not the case.
This season only UM really has a chance for a final four run but we can also get bounced by a hot team in the sweet 16 due to our lack of interior O (we had McGary last tourney) nad ok D. I think last year we could whether a cold shooting night better bc Burke could just take over and McGary could bang down low. This year we don't have that.
So overall, I think a league is judged by its top tier, top 4 if you will. Hopefully the B1G can get 4 sweet 16 teams and have 1 make the final four (UM). Hard to be the best conference if you don't have a final four team. IMO, its much more likely for the B1G to miss out on the final four than the ACC.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||haha Izzo face palm||
This will be huge if ILL can hold on.
I think UM will lose one more before the end of the season so this L will offset that. I just think IU at home will be tough.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Harris 3s are only way MSU gets back in this||
just face guard him the rest of the way. let anyone else shoot
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Harris 3s are only way MSU gets back in this||
just face guard him the rest of the way. let anyone else shoot
|7 weeks 5 days ago||come on ILL!||
|7 weeks 6 days ago||true...but||
But these guys are great athletes and more importantly have the best facilties and time to do the PT.
I ran a half marathon 8 months after ACL surgery (used my own hamstring for the graft). Granted this is nothing close to playing Div 1 football but I also could only do PT on my lunch break about 2-3 times a week if I was lucky. I had an office job where I would work 9am-8pm so had little downtime.
Now I whole heartedly agree on th mental aspect as I still sometimes have that feeling in my head 3 years after surgery. That being said, I always wondered what it would have been like if I didn't have an office job and could have dedicated REAL time and hours to my recovery in PT.
Sucked but you gotta pay the bills and I'm not a pro anything so had my priorities. I pretty much do anything now as a "weekend warrior".
|7 weeks 6 days ago||assuming he means highest avg over last 9 games||
Haven't checked the numbers but I assume he means his PPG avg is highest over the last 9 games. Sounds about right to me. IMO, he has emerged as our best all around player. O and D.
also, anyone else worried about IU at home? Let just say I really hope MSU loses one more game.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||if Nuss is good he is gone in 3 years tops||
Nuss is going for the first major BCS gig he gets.
Hopefully he likes what he sees in Shane Morris and sticks around until he graduates. If Nuss is as good as we hope our best chance is that he does well here. Leaves for a solid BCS program and then maybe comes back in 6-8 years when hoke is done.
all that is a pipe dream though. I'd be happy with a functional running game next season.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||well I dis say <insert Big12 team here>||
well I did say <insert big12 team here> as I know they are basically flag football teams.
I also tend to think that Oregon's D is overrated. Thats just me though. I feel like it looks good when there O is rolling but when there O gets punched in the mouth the D is usually not able to make up for it.
|8 weeks 29 min ago||somewhat agree. lack defensive intensity||
I mean UM is not a great defensive team even when its trying (they have short moments of great D play though). Combine that with little intensity on D to start games and that equals Player X going off on UM in the first half all the time.
And for some reason we as fans chalk it up to "that just have that guy going off, if he didn't do that we would be killing them". Of course by now its a consistent theme. Even back a couple years with Ohio U knocking us out of the tourney. This is my biggest fear opening weekend of the NCAAs. UM getting in a big hole vs inferior team and some guy going Yogi Ferrell on UM.
We are basically the Oregon Ducks or <insert BIG12 football team here> of bball. As of late we are letting teams score TDs on nearly every possesion to start games only to come back and win 56-42...
I'm starting to think it is something we are going to have to expect under Beilein and his wildly efficent Offensive teams. Perhaps the trade off for always having four shooters on the court is that you are just not going to be as good at defense. Although Duke makes it work...I tend to think its bc their shooters are a tad more athletic.
My hope is that we can get a legit 5 that can rebound, start the break, and defend the rim at some point to make up for our deficiencies on the perimeter (I think we will always have it). I'd also like for one player out of our 1-3 to be a lock down defender type but its rare to have a lock down guy who is a Beilein quality shooter.
All this being said, I would rather an efficient O and free flowing team than a grind it out all defensive team that can't shoot. Even if those teams win championships. O is just more fun to watch, esp in the college game. PLus we will send a pipeline of 1-3 players to the pros with this style.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||the scripts have flipped...football and bball...||
Sorry, have to be that guy to bring up football. I want UM to be the best at both. Leave them nothing.
Hopefully, with a new OC and maybe a couple suprise players in the front 7 on D UM can make a leap this year.
Bball is clearly on the right path, what's even better is the Belien has done it molding 4 star players instead of just brining in 1 and done talent (which may or may not last).
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Levert will win MVP bc he is the most important player||
Stauskas is great and All B10 but to me its hard to be POY when you are not the clear POY on your own team...UM is lucky to have this problem and has full control of the Big Ten Tile outright bc of it. Credit to Belien for taking these parts and making it work. We should focus on the team goals and not this type of hardware anyways. Instead people are acting like its a sign of disrespect that Stauskas is getting the award... Stauskas is NOT this years Burke for UM.
I think you are over looking the things Levert does bc it doesn't go with the Stauskas "is not just a shooter" meme. Watch Stauskas play defense. For evey bucket he has made this season, every single one, he has costs UM one. Luckily we have a great team with several weapons that we have overcome this woeful deficiency all season.
And the team rises and falls on Nik bc yeah we need him to score 15+ points to make up for the 15+ he is giving up.
Keep in mind we need Levert to score, run the break, get steals, rebound, get other players involved, guard the best player, play on top of the 131, run the half court O, get into the lane when nobody else can...etc etc. Levert is literally the best on the team in all of those facets of the game (sands Rebs). Stauskas is the best a shooting 3s, getting crazy sports center assists, and TOs. Note Stauskas has more TOs than Levert despite not being asked to create as much. Note, TOs are a frequent grip of people on here about Levert....
Stauskas is a great shooter who is crafty with the ball. Levert is a great all around player. Niether deserve POY recognition. Belien deserves COY for hopefully winning an outright title with a great shooter, great playmaker, and getting all the other pieces to work together.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||too much hype for Stauskas||
sorry but we we drinking the kool-aid here. Stauskas is not even the most important player on his team (Levert). When things go to hell we give Levert the ball. Levert actually tries to play D and rebounds and still runs the show on offense. He will win MVP at the banquet, book it.
The BIG10 player of the year doesn't sit in the corner for about 5 games and get taken out of games. sorry. If Stauskas can somehow get back to leading the league in scoring he might win it bc lets face it the guys is all offense. He needs the scoring stats bc thats all there is. Nobody wins POT awards based on FG%...
Its OK if UM doesn't have a POY winner, if all goes well we will have the Banner.
IMO, Marble, Petteway, G. Harris could all win it. Should win it. Stauskas is dinged bc he plays zero defense, we have depth offensively and play as a team. You know reasons why we will hopefully win the league.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||exactly what I would pick right now||
Thats the most atheltic group and most capable of "making plays". Ryan is one of the few with size and speed on our D. Gedeon showed flashes and Ross is an instinctive blur (albiet still small)
|8 weeks 6 days ago||good Ryan move IMO||
Morgan is just not atheltic enough to make plays against teams with speed IMO. He was good when the action came right at him (unlike Bolden) but when it came to the "make plays" meme outside of a couple big sticks (when the action came to him) and that Uconn pick I felt like he was just a guy out there.
I like the idea of JMFR out there being able to make plays on every down 1-3; instead of just using him on 3rd down off the edge (which we could still do as a change-up). Plus if anyone can go sideline to sideline, bust through blocks or go around them its JMFR. He's the only guy on the D with that skill set (until we see it from the younger guys).
|9 weeks 5 days ago||36pts for THjr...7 3's led all scorers||
THjr was on fire from three. went at it with waiters one on one for a bit. THjr was the purer shooter but Waiters shook him a few times off the dribble.
If THjr can work on the D the sky is the limit for him...
|10 weeks 23 hours ago||exactly||
Defenses know they have 10secs to sub now no matter what.
How fast can UM get a FG unit on the field again? pretty fast.
UM should be able to have some kind of sub package now that is realistic vs. the super fast spreads teams.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||postive for the UMs and Stanfords of the world||
Not so much for Oregon and IU. Don't think it hurts Urban and OSU much.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Hate to say it but no way UM wins this game...unless||
Not unless they have an epiphany on offense. Note I don't say defense bc there simply are zero defenders on this team outside of Walton so to expect a leap their is false hope. This team goes as its offense goes. The offense at least as the potential for greatness.
Unfortunately, the half-court O we have seen all year will fail to score 60 points against OSU. Unless there are some signifcant new wrinkles or Irvin (yes Irvin) goes off like THjr did back in the day vs. OSU at home.
OSU will do everything they can to make our half court D look good by throwing up bricks but I think there D will lead to just enough transition buckets for the win. OSU WILL come into this game with a chip on their shoulder... they rise up for UM.
The entire game relies on UM O in the half court. They get buckets and they force OSU to play a half court O and UM has a chance.
Stauskas 12 pts (over)
Irvin 15 pts (over)
GRIII 8 pts (under)
honestly were would you put your money? Here's to Irvin going WAY over.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||the DL is where its most damaging IMO||
I don't care you your DBs are, nobody can cover forever.
Sure they've had good RBs, WRs, OL, LBs but other conferences have that. Nobody else has these DLs...
|15 weeks 2 days ago||Difference between SEC elite and everyone else..DL||
It's all about the front 7 especially the DL. Every single SEC team in the championship has among the best DL in the country that can consistently blow up plays.
man UM has got to get the DL going. Watch these teams dominate the LOS its like UM is light years away....
Sure they are doing press coverage but the DL for Aub was/is blowing these plays up..very few "coverage" sacks or hurries against FSU.
Meanwile UM. Hopefully Taco and Henry can make a leap next season. Pipkins was just a guy with weight issues before the knee injury. I think it takes him a full season to recover and even potentially be good.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||THJr will be a starting SG soon enough||
I think he can be a starter on a team with an good PG (he can't carry a teams back court). He can be a good number 3-4 option IMO on a playoff team.
He stroke is that good and he can get a shot off virtually anytime he wants. Plus, with the 3pt threat he forces teams to close out in a hurry but has the ability to drive all the way in for a dunk. ie you run him off the 3pt line he can still make you pay.
If a team has a Big 3 he would be a great #4 option on a playoff team. That will probably be his best shot at a ring down the road.
Burke IMO will be a very solid starting PG. Not sure if he can make all star level consistently. More of a Chauncy Billips "big shot making" type player but not the #1 option.
|19 weeks 1 day ago||Great Diary||
I agree with what your data is showing in that a good coach makes the team better, great coach makes the program better.
Before I started reading I thought to myself he really needs 20 wins over the next two years for all "hot seat" talk to go away. Funny that the data says that 20 wins pushes his 5 yr winning % to that of UM's historical average.
I would cut him some slack given that he came after what the data says is the "worst coach in the modern era". That is going to cause some growing problems that we saw this year and last. Probably enough to account for ~2 losses.
Given that, I think he needs the 20 wins less the 2 outlined above. So basically to answer your question, if he has <=18 wins then i could see a legit case being made for a firing (esp if at least 1 of the 9 wins isn't against MSU or OSU in each year). 20 wins and this isn't a discussion anymore.
Consider though, If UM splits with MSU and OSU (soon to be division rivals) over the next two years we will be 4-6 vs them through 5 years of Hoke. By splitting we also hurt our chances of even winning the division. Lets face it, OSU is not losing to anyone in the Big Ten outside of MSU, UM, or perhaps Wisky on the road. UM can only afford 1 BIG loss a season if it ever wants to win the division going forward.
5 years of Hoke without winning the division I think mean trouble. That why I think two 9 win seasons still gets hoke in HOT water. maybe fired, 20 wins means there is a chance he probably made at least 1 BIG title game.