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|2 days 2 min ago||Is there a single "NFL customer"...||
...that's in it for the interviews?
Take a poll of Seahawk season ticket holders. Do they care whether Lynch talks on media day?
Take a poll of the general Seattle population, ask them if they'd be more likely to buy Seahawk tickets if Lync answered questions at pressers.
NFL stadiums are full because of the football games. There's TV coverage because people want to see the football games. They could stop having pressers altogether, tomorrow, and it wouldn't impact ratings or attendance one iota.
That this is what the fans want is bull. This is about what reporters want. The reporters' point of view gets pawned off as the fans' because all you ever see in the press is the reporters' point of view, not the fans'.
|2 days 3 hours ago||That's not unusual.||
I don't know how it applies in the present situation--scamming your own family is a bit different from preying on the public--but for professional reasons I spent a chunk of my adult life dealing with people who run scams, and one characteristic almost all of them shared is that they come off as "really nice folks", great to be around.
If they weren't, they couldn't be successful at what they do.
|2 days 9 hours ago||That's an odd comment.||
He took his team to the state final as a freshman--he was hardly able to "outmuscle kids because of physical maturity" as a ninth-grader.
And I'm not sure I understand why he's going to be less physically mature as a senior than he was in these past years. It's not like his opponents are going to be any older.
|2 days 9 hours ago||Just leave?||
How about trying to stop the crime? Or reporting it?
You're right of course that leaving is the minimum required to avoid "getting dragged into it," but maybe it isn't unreasonable to expect a bit more out of people.
|2 days 10 hours ago||It won't happen, but...||
...I'm thinking actually having to perform the reconstruction labor themselves would be fitting. (Unfair to the hotel, though, who deserves experienced labor.)
Tearing stuff apart and paying for the damages (or, worse, having someone else pay for them in your name) doesn't quite send the same message as tearing stuff apart and having to put it back together yourself.
|2 days 10 hours ago||Their o-line was a sieve last year.||
He's mobile, and he does a good job keeping his eyes downfield when he's forced to scramble (which seemed like all the time). But you're not going to build a zone-read attack around him.
|2 days 10 hours ago||I've seen him play in person maybe a dozen times...||
...and I've never felt his film does him justice. I think his head's going to take him farther than a lot of QB's who show more physical talent on film.
|4 days 5 hours ago||Depends on whether he's on||
Depends on whether he's on campus or off. He can interact with them while they're visiting but not while he's on the road.
|4 days 6 hours ago||That would be amazing.||
Leroy Keyes was a first round pick, #3 overall. If he can top that, well, damn.
|4 days 6 hours ago||Basketball's different.||
I don't know how common that sort of thing is in football. You can get a lot of work done at a big AAU tournament without talking to anybody--there's a lot of potential recruits in the building at the same time, playing competitive games. There's not really anything similar in football.
|4 days 6 hours ago||I have a relative with one of||
I have a relative with one of these non-coaching admin positions in basketball (I assume the rules are the same in both sports)--he makes recruiting trips on occasion but can't interact with the players off campus. He can watch, he can be visible in the gym wearing the school colors so the recruits know they're there and interested, but that's about it.
|4 days 6 hours ago||Programs differ in how much||
Programs differ in how much attention they pay to local players they aren't interested in recruiting, who are good but not quite D1 caliber--camp invitations and the like. Michigan had traditionally made this a point of emphasis but RR didn't seem particularly interested in it, which pissed off some coaches.
|1 week 2 days ago||Let's not kid ourselves...||
...there's a lot of work to be done.
Michigan's record against (using Massey):
The last time Michigan played a top-50 team and didn't lose by double digits was last November.
The best road win is @ #110 Penn State.
They're #95 at KenPom, looking up at such luminaries as N.C. Central, Eastern Ky and Toledo.
That's not a good resume.
|1 week 2 days ago||MSU...||
...is #33 at Massey, #23 at KenPom.
That's an 8-seed at worst, for the moment, unless you think their computers have also been programmed with some sort of irrational pro-Sparty bias.
Michigan is #71 at Massey, #95 at KenPom.
|1 week 2 days ago||Read the blockquote again.||
He didn't say anything at all about waiting until the facts are in. He's saying, quite clearly, that cheating is part of sport as long as it doesn't involve something undetectable by the opposition.
|1 week 2 days ago||No.||
They only check the balls if one of the teams requests it, and as far as we know only the Colts made such a request. (What it has to do with Rosenberg, I have no idea.)
It's a bit like checking the curvature of a hockey stick. Well, except that there's no penalty in this case.
|1 week 2 days ago||It's the score differential that's irrelevant.||
"I didn't need to plagiarize anything--it would have been a perfectly good paper without those eleven paragraphs I cribbed" is not a defense.
|1 week 2 days ago||Quick back-of-the-envelope calculation.||
Pressure's proportional to temperature for an ideal gas (a good-enough approximation for our purposes). A drop from 12.5 to 10.5 psi is a 16% drop; we'd need a 16% drop in temperature to explain it. 40 degrees Fahrenheit is 278K, which would be a 16% drop if the temperature of the gas when the pressure was measured was 331K, or 136 degrees Fahrenheit.
Edit: Never mind--like countless before me (I should have read the thread, or just known, that I wouldn't be the first to do the calculation) I forgot about the difference between air pressure and gauge pressure.
|1 week 2 days ago||It seems to me...||
...that the issue here isn't the pressure of the balls New England used but the difference in pressure, if any, between the balls used when the Patriots were on offense and the balls used when the Colts were on offense.
If that wasn't checked, WTF was the league doing when it "investigated" this? If it was, why aren't we hearing the results?
|1 week 2 days ago||I don't mean to call anyone out...||
...it's a random selection from a lot of similar posts. But I'd have to call this a defense of cheating...
|1 week 3 days ago||Corollary.||
There was absolutely nothing wrong with Spartan Bob's shenanigans. After all, we could see that the clock wasn't moving. It wasn't anything the opponent couldn't detect.
|1 week 3 days ago||Yes, that's correct. But||
Yes, that's correct.
But those balls go into a single pool, used by both teams. The only way the two teams would be using different balls would be if the ball attendants were feeding particular balls into play depending on which team was on offense.
That would be possible, and it's the crux of the issue here.
|1 week 3 days ago||Pre-game, yes, but...||
Just before kickoff, all the balls are delivered to the ball attendants. They could just as easily manipulate the kicking balls as the scrimmage balls (not that there's been any serious suggestion that it happened in this case).
The bottom line is that all the balls are in the possession of employees of the home team throughout the game. They control the balls on the sideline; they're the ones that send the balls onto the field. If the league really wants to make sure stuff like this doesn't happen they either need to supply neutral ball attendants, or make the penalty for manipulation so great that no one would ever risk it.
|1 week 3 days ago||Per NFL rules...||
“It is the responsibility of the home team to furnish playable balls at all times by attendants from either side of the playing field.”
Once checked by the officials, the balls are in the custody of ball attendants, who are in the employ of the home team. It wouldn't be that hard to deflate a few balls and make sure those are the balls on the field while the home team is on offense. Except in the event of a turnover, there's always a kicking play between possessions, which means a change of ball. And on a wet day like this the ball's being swapped out all the time.
What the Colts and/or the officials should have done--and I'm not sure whether they did or not--is also check some balls in use while the Colts were on offense. If all the balls were similarly deflated there'd be no competitive advantage and there'd be no issue. If there was a systematic difference in pressure depending on which team had the ball, we could be pretty sure the ball boys were up to something.
|1 week 5 days ago||I had exactly the opposite reaction to that last stat.||
I agree with the people that say they should have called off the trap, but six fouls in a half isn't a lot.
But no fouls in a half? That goes way beyond physical mismatch--that's a group that's not even trying.
I was on the wrong end of a few of these in IMs. In January there was only one league and my collection of motley misfits had to play a team that had just beaten the varsity, badly, in a scrimmage (that can happen at a D3 school--a few of them had played varsity as freshmen and sophomores but decided basketball was taking too much time from their class work). They whooped us by 80 in a shortened game...but we were still trying to get in their way, trying to box out, and we picked up a few fouls along the way.
|1 week 5 days ago||My father went through a season like this.||
He was coaching eighth-grade boys one year and had a really, really good team, and spent the season trying to come up with ways to keep the score down. He'd do things like take away the dribble--nobody's allowed to dribble, at all, unless you need one dribble to get to the basket for an open layup.
Sometimes that didn't even work.
And sometimes the ideas backfired. Once they were up 26-7 at the half. That wasn't quite as bad as some of the games had been, and at some point you have to let your starters get some game experience, right? At that point they'd only had one competitive game all year.
So he split the team into two groups of six, with the best players split between the groups. He took away the dribble, again, and he told the two groups that whichever one gave up more points in their quarter would have to run gassers the next day in practice. (My memory is that he also said whichever group scored fewer would run, too, but it's probably wrong because nobody else remembers it.)
You've probably already figured out the strategy for the third-quarter group--they went out and used up all the fouls, made sure the other team was in the bonus when the 4th quarter started. They won their quarter 16-0 and were pretty pleased with themselves.
The second group went out in a bad mood. No dribble was bad enough, and now a single foul would mean they had to run.
They won their quarter 17-0.
And the other coach was mad. Hell, their scorekeeper was mad, which I remember well because I was keeping our book and got an earful.
What I thought, sitting there at the table watching it all and listening to all the bitching, I couldn't very well say, which was that damn it there's no excuse for being that bad. Their school was twice the size of ours, and they couldn't even put five guys out there that could defend a team that wasn't allowed to dribble??? That wasn't lack of physical talent, that was years of incompetent coaching.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||I'm thinking early to mid '80s for the first usage.||
Jackson didn't get to do many games at Michigan in the '70s--remember, each team was only allowed be on TV once per season then, which basically meant that the only network games from Michigan were the odd-numbered years against OSU. WolverineHistorian would know better, but I think the first game Jackson ever did there was '77 Ohio.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Going to be a long week here in Ohio.||
So I think tomorrow I'm going to go out, shake the hand of every OSU fan I can find, look them square in the eye and, without a trace of irony in my voice, offer my heartfelt congratulations.
I have the flu.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||It's January 1, 1969.||
Embrace the suck.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I loved it.||
Too many football fans around the country don't care about Ohio State. Bring back the hate.
And if this really is 1968 all over again, I can deal with that too. That next decade was glorious, if exquisitely painful at times.