landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
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|2 days 6 hours ago||I'm not sure who you mean by "they" or "general public".||
But the administration's been under pressure from their students and alums. They do it a little differently than I'm used to--at my school we would have camped out on the President's lawn with signs, at Baylor they hold prayer meetings and candlelight vigils (come to think of it, we would have held the vigils too). But it's pressure, and it's been going on since before ESPN really got hold of the story.
And it's not all football. There are two prongs to this--one is the football program protecting its own, the other is the general university response to complainants. They've had some high-profile cases there that didn't involve athletics at all; the now-former president of one of their fraternities was indicted, for one.
|2 days 17 hours ago||Read the report.||
The Title IX implications were its entire focus--Pepper Hamilton's engagement was to evaluate the university's performance of its obligations under Title IX, and the report summarizes the many ways in which they failed.
(Well, actually the "report" is just a summary of the facts found--I don't think we're ever likely to see the actual report containing details of the evidence backing the findings. There's a lot of civil liability in play here and I doubt they want that level of detail out in the world.)
|2 days 17 hours ago||He knows how sexual assaults||
He knows how sexual assaults are handled at a university. He's opposed to it: "those student conduct hearings are a joke," as he said elsewhere. We've seen this argument before around here, and sometimes a lot cruder and more obtuse than anything that's been written today.
It's not just this blog--the same conflicts seem to come up anywhere there's a discussion of sexual assault on campus. Schools want to (and those that don't want to are being forced to) create a safer environment for their students,so they're trying to clean up some of the grey area between "enthusiastic consent" and the kind of violent conduct that's (relatively) unproblematically treated by the criminal system. Some of us like that idea; some of us don't. What looks to some like the creation of a safer environment is, to others, a threat. The line keeps getting pushed farther into that grey area and at some point maybe it starts to get a little too close to home.
|2 days 19 hours ago||They "want to know what type of player would complain"?||
They're pissing on a collective bargaining agreement. If they double down with any kind of retaliatory action against a player that reported them, I hope there's hell to pay.
|3 days 54 min ago||Did nothing?||
Read the report. He most definitely did not "do nothing."
|3 days 56 min ago||I don't know about that...||
The basketball program's been fairly clean under Drew--they certainly don't suffer from the football program's problems--and they're more successful than they ever were back when they were run by a slimebag.
|3 days 1 hour ago||This isn't fandom.||
He doesn't care about Baylor football, or Art Briles.
|3 days 1 hour ago||Sexual assaults are handled||
Sexual assaults are handled by student conduct hearings at damn near every school in the country. It's hard for me to believe a Michigan fan isn't aware of that by now. For one thing, the student code of conduct regarding sexual behavior differs from the local jurisdiction's criminal code at pretty much every school I'm aware of. It certainly does at Baylor, where both parties were already in violation of the student code before questions of consent are even addressed. The Baylor code expressly prohibits extramarital sex.
As for whether it's possible for a coaching staff to divert cases away from the police, all I can say for sure is that the independent investigators said they did. How they did this, the investigators do not explain, though they make some claims elsewhere that might be related. Coaches were required to, but did not, refer allegations to university personnel outside athletics--we might presume that those personnel would have then referred the allegations to the police. Coaches staged their own investigations into the allegations and presented these investigations to victims and their families as the formal institutional response, which they weren't. They used these investigations to "discredit" the victims--it's not hard for me to imagine that they could have done this in a way that would discourage the victims from approaching or cooperating with the police.
But that last part is speculation. What we know for now is that, according to Pepper Hamilton, they diverted cases. We won't know how unless Baylor releases the evidence behind the report. That's unlikely to happen.
|3 days 1 hour ago||Yes.||
According to the report released by the school, the football coaches actively diverted cases from the police. They also, despite your repeated and uninformed claims that they didn't have time to "play detective," staged their own investigations into the allegations, sometimes interfering with other independent investigations in the process.
|3 days 1 hour ago||"Baylor of all places"||
Maybe it's for the same reason that Utah has a very high incidence of financial fraud?
They're called con(fidence) men for a reason. Guys like that thrive in an environment where people are inclined to trust, to forgive, to give the benefit of the doubt.
The Bliss situation's unique in a lot of ways. One is that he was ultimately busted by his own staff. Has that ever happened anywhere else? It gave some credence to the argument that he was a rogue, that the university and even his own staff might not have known what he was up to.
This situation's different, but again I think there might be some cultural reasons that Baylor was fertile ground for this kind of scandal. Forget issues of consent--extramarital sex of any kind is a violation of the code of conduct there. The women that came forward were, in the act of bringing the accusation, admitting their own wrongdoing in the eyes of the school. What would be tantamount to victim blaming elsewhere is, at Baylor, an institutional imperative.
In practice, at least among ordinary students and staff, there doesn't seem to be more of it than there is elsewhere. But it's institutionalized, which I think changes everything.
|3 days 2 hours ago||He was required by University||
He was required by University policy to notify somebody outside athletics. He didn't.
And that's aside from the fact that according to Pepper Hamilton he and his staff actively investigated these claims, discrediting the complainants and interfering with their right to a fair and informed investigation of their allegations while "affirmatively diverting cases away from the student conduct and criminal processes."
That's what you're defending.
|3 days 2 hours ago||That's funny...||
...since one of the findings of the Pepper Hamilton report is that "football staff conducted their own untrained internal inquiries, outside of policy, which improperly discredited complainants and denied them the right to a fair, impartial and informed investigation" and "gave the illusion of responsiveness to complainants but failed to provide a meaningful insitutional response. And that football coaches "took affirmative steps...to actively divert cases from the student conduct or criminal processes."
|3 days 2 hours ago||There is one reason why Peters would opt out...||
...he's been told that he'll have the chance to play one more year for Drew, and on a bigger stage.
I get the wishful thinking and all, but it's hard to believe anyone really thinks this isn't what's going on.
|3 days 2 hours ago||HS coach at a Texas prep||
HS coach at a Texas prep school.
|3 days 3 hours ago||There have already been two||
There have already been two convictions at Baylor and a third player is awaiting trial.
|3 days 3 hours ago||That particular incident is||
That particular incident is maybe a useful lesson in why we don't have more whistleblowers in situations like this. The coach that tried (unsuccessfully, I might add) to get his team and staff to claim said murdered player was a drug dealer is still coaching, if only at NAIA level. The assistant that wore the wire and blew the whistle has been blackballed; nobody in the profession will give him the time of day.
|3 days 3 hours ago||Tevin Elliott: 20 years in||
Tevin Elliott: 20 years in prison and a $10,000 fine for each of two counts of sexual assault.
Sam Ukwuachu: found guilty of one count of sexual assault. 180 days in prison, 10 years probation. A civil suit the victim filed against the university for its shoddy response to her initial complaint was settled; that's what triggered the school's hiring of an independent investigator.
Shawn Oakman: arrested and charged with sexual assault about a month ago. Case hasn't yet gone to trial.
|3 days 3 hours ago||Whatever the motivation of the Board of Trustees...||
...one of the reasons they acted is that they were under pressure from within the community to take action because the community--students, staff, alums--felt there was a moral obligation.
Read the comments at the Baylor blogs--not just the comments today, but as the story developed. There are some folks close to the program defending Briles and the players involved, but the dominant narrative is that people feel betrayed by the football program. Their moral ideal may not quite align with mine, but a lot of people there take it seriously. And there sure as hell aren't any mass rallies in Waco demanding that a statue of Briles be put back up on campus.
|3 days 4 hours ago||I think they'll do both.||
Find that guy, and pay him more than he's probably worth to make sure he takes the job.
They've just finished a major stadium/facilities upgrade down there. I don't expect them to be shy about throwing some money around if they need to, and as long as they hire somebody with a clean reputation I don't think there'll be any PR blowback from it. (Penn State, of all institutions, hired Tony Franklin, of all football coaches, and the only PR flack they seem to have gotten from it is that he turns out to be a crappy coach.)
|3 days 4 hours ago||If they were even capable of that kind of thinking...||
...they wouldn't have hired Franklin in the first place.
|3 days 4 hours ago||Southwestern Christian?||
They hired Dave Bliss last year; maybe they'd like to start up a football program.
|4 days 19 hours ago||You know, that hits pretty||
You know, that hits pretty close to the core of the problem there. There's a total disconnect between the student body and a good chunk of the staff (the ones that are in direct contact with the students anyway, and generally the younger crowd) and the younger alums, as opposed to the people that run the place. The former group is surprisingly sane. The latter group, the people in charge, can't quite wrap their heads around the fact that umarried students at the school are having sex.
Which makes them completely incompetent to deal with issues involving consent. That whole vast area between violent assault by a total stranger and what married people do is a mystery to them.
|4 days 19 hours ago||Spend a little time at the Baylor blogs...||
...and you'll find that's a fairly common attitude among the commenters.
You'll also find quite a few folks leaping to the players' defense and criticizing the women involved. I won't go into details, you can go look for yourself if you're into that sort of victim blaming.
Another not uncommon position is that this entire thing has been a witch hunt by ESPN to protect their financial interest in the Longhorn Network.
|4 days 19 hours ago||I think that's correct.||
It has to be done from the top down. Interim president hires interim athletic director, who handles Briles's departure and hires a new coach.
Otherwise you've got the current president and AD, who are implicated along with Briles, handling the negotations over Briles's firing/resignation/buyout. That can't happen.
|5 days 17 hours ago||I guess I was wrong.||
Going into the series I didn't think Golden State had anyone that could hurt OKC down low.
|6 days 1 min ago||Kick me in the nuts twice...||
"you're pretty accurate, mate."
|6 days 1 hour ago||The significance of 1997...||
...is that it's the first year they started keeping track of the stat. So his -43 was the worst on record ever for any playoff game.
|1 week 2 days ago||Early rounds on the outer||
Early rounds on the outer courts at a big tennis tournament are amazing. In a way, the mandatory not-quite-majors might be even better, because the fields are smaller and they get to the good matchups straight away. I go to Cincinnati every year, and there are already top-40 players out there on qualifying weekend. By Wednesday you can be sitting literally at courtside, a few feet behind the returner, watching two top-20 players, and either you're practically alone and it's as if they're putting on an exhibition for you, or especially later in the day you're in a tiny packed bullring stadium. It's sort of like watching an NBA playoff game in a small high-school gym, and players from other NBA teams are sitting in the stands with you.
That's maybe the strangest thing of all--the very biggest stars are surrounded and protected of course, but the rest of the players are just there with the fans. I watched a Makarova match with her coach and trainer once, and they dragged me into their conversation. Stuff like that doesn't happen for ordinary fans anywhere else.
|1 week 2 days ago||In reverse order (and skipping the NC that's on everyone's list)||
1. A soccer tour of Europe would be nice. I'd really like to see a match in Dortmund.
2. A World Series in Montreal. (First they need to have a team again.)
3. Germany at a WC or Euro.
4. This one's going to sound crazy, and it's also not going to happen, but I still want to see my old high school win a state basketball championship someday. Preferably while my father is still alive (he coached there).
|1 week 2 days ago||There is no inconsistency here...||
...in fact I think it might be the key to the entire puzzle.
Clinton was married, and his partner in that act was not his wife. As a married man he's expected to control himself--he has an appropriate and available outlet after all.
These gentlemen were not married, so the blame falls on the women who allowed themselves to be alone with them.
I am not joking here. I've learned a lot about that place the last few years--I have family on staff there. It's still (thankfully) an alien world to me, but it has an internal consistency.