After reading the ESPN article about it, I'm not sure why people think we should try and protect Harbaugh here. His leaving was for him, not us. He thought about himself, and there's nothing wrong with that, but shouldn't we be extended the same courtesy? We have to think about our future interests, too.
I’d be surprised if Harbaugh wanted to weigh in on this at this point. He moved on, it was something he had entertained every off season for the prior three years. I don’t believe it was a hard choice, he had nothing left to accomplish at Michigan. And he’s been the kind of guy who avoids the media if he can. This seems off brand for Harbaugh.
Harbaugh left. He chose to leave. And second, Warde doesn’t act unilaterally on something like this. If anyone blames only him, they’re showing their bias against him.
I 100% agree with you and regret using the word “dumb.” It was a knee jerk response and I actually do know better. My sister is a now sober alcoholic and my husband’s brother and sister are both alcoholics. Ironically their mother was a professor, public health advocate, and researcher in the field and so we speak about this all the time. Everyone I mentioned has experienced alcoholism in different ways, it’s not a binary state — it’s not “you’re either an alcoholic or you’re not.” So I appreciate you speaking up and reminding me that the term “dumb” isn’t applicable here.
I think it’s wrong to assume someone who got an OWI is a dumbfuck. That sort of assumes he was in his right mind and made a dumb decision. If he was intoxicated, he wasn’t in his right mind and wasn’t capable of making a good decision in the moment.
Before she retired, my mother-in-law was a professor and health policy advocate in Washington who specialized in fetal alcohol syndrome, as well as the director of a program that helped children of alcoholics. Her definition of having an alcohol problem is when the drinking interferes with your daily life -- work and family being the most common. You don't have to be someone who drinks all day, every day and can't stop by him or herself (traditional definition of an alcoholic) to qualify as someone with an alcohol problem.
When people do stupid things under the influence (and they're adults), chances are they have a problem with alcohol and need to get help. It's nothing to be ashamed of, it just needs to be addressed. I have several alcoholics in my family. One got sober and is now a sponsor. Another got cirrhosis and then got sober but she's now facing a possible liver transplant. The third lost his spleen when he blacked out and fell down some stairs. Some people can't control the amount they drink. A good friend of my husband, his former business partner, died two months ago from liver failure due to drinking. He was 58 with three kids. No shame, just get help. Alcohol is a beast of an adversary.
The best superstar to Michigan story was that guy who was a psychology major who partnered with Derek Jeter on a project his freshman year. At the end of the project, the guy said to Jeter, "So what's next for you?" And Jeter said, "I'm going to go play professional baseball," and the guy was like, "Oh, ok, Derek. Whatever you say." Whoever you are, Psychology man, your story is my favorite Michigan sports story of all time.
It may not compare to what networks are making but a $300,000 education isn't nothing, and an education at a good school like Michigan is worth a lot if you know what to do with it. In fact, I'm starting to think scholarships shouldn't be offered if they're seen as so unimportant and meaningless.
I have a friend who looked just like Lance Ito and people came up to him all the time and asked whether he thought OJ was guilty. I think there were even a few times, with a little alcohol in his system, that he played along.
That trial was a shit show. I had a partner at work who was obsessed with it and every morning, she'd offer up a breakdown of the prior day's events and we'd sometimes watch it at lunch. The media coverage was out of control -- I think it was the precursor to the way media covers events today.
In downtown Chicago, it was barely perceptible. We found an empty field and the sky was perfectly clear. It maybe dimmed a little, but not much. The air got a little cooler but nothing drastic. I've spoken to friends who got the whole experience and they were wowed. We were kind of meh.
That there used to be four TV channels and I agonized over having to pick one show over another versus now, where there are hundreds of channels and I can never find anything to watch.
Haha, I was with my 20 year old daughter at a bakery and the tip came up on the screen and before I could give a 15% tip, she said out loud, in front of the cashier, "No, no more of this tipping people who work at cash registers." Uh, wanna get away?
I think in all of sports, people like personalities as much if not more than they like the game. Sure, there are those who simply watch for the game itself and couldn't care less who is playing. But I think fans love to have someone to root for, and some reason to root for them (life situation, personality, some quality that's relatable that has nothing to do with the sport). Caitlin Clark is interesting because she's kind of milquetoast. She says all the right things at the right time, she's not particularly charismatic, but maybe it's because she's the girl next door -- seemingly nice, well-mannered but also a killer on the court.
They have at least two hybrid players -- Rogers and Voit -- and that seems unusual at this level of play. I wonder how many D1 teams have players who both actively pitch and play another position. I could see switching back and forth between infield or outfield positions but pitching is a different animal.
To your point about NY, baseball, and community, I did some research because my son's name came up in a google search about baseball, but it wasn't him. It was someone with the same name, same spelling (the spelling of his last name, which is my husband's, is unusual) who played in a semi-pro league near Albany (the Slingerland Nine which turned into the Albany Twilight league) in the early 20th century. His contribution and fame was likened to that of Derek Jeter. He was both a player and a coach, and there's a current league named after him. But many of the articles talked about how amateur and semi-pro baseball helped to bring communities together because everyone went to games and there were a lot of teams. And baseball was the premier sport back then. But I thought it was so funny that my son, who played and now coaches baseball, shared a name with someone who seemed to be such a pivotal part of semi-pro baseball in NY.
Chicago is supposed to be 94% obscured. I got some glasses and plan to see whatever that looks like but I really want the religious 100% experience. There's an article in the NYT by a physicist who couldn't adequately describe the experience, which was the whole point of the article. Otherworldly.
I agree. The need to assign blame to every single situation is crazy. Sometimes things don't work out for a lot of small reasons and there's no need to litigate each and every one to determine whose fault it was.
I'm not so sure NIL is really 100% his purview. Seems like the regents and Ono have some say here, too, as Michigan sees athletics as connected to the university and are concerned with the integrity of any program that's put in place, as well as the optics. That's the culture of Michigan. Harbaugh himself said of the football program that's it's transformational, not transactional. It's very deep in the fiber of the place.
I read the article. I think there's a lot left out so we don't get the context of the fight. Juwan mentions that he's not the best communicator, so it's possible that these two guys never communicated properly and there were issues between them that should've been discussed but never were. This was the boiling point. Overall, it just seemed like Juwan wasn't ready to be a head coach. Having your sons on the team doesn't help in that situation, either. He also should've taken the season off for his health. There's no way you can function properly in a highly competitive atmosphere with all that hanging over your head.
Gay jokes of that kind were widely accepted back then. Or imitating gay men using a lisp. Think about Eddie Murphy’s stand up or his character in “Beverly Hills Cop” when Axel Foley barged into the private club, imitating a gay man. And so many derogatory terms for both gay men and women that were regularly used in public with zero thought about how it might affect someone who was gay. They were treated in many instances like pariah.
Women weren't allowed to have credit cards in their own names until 1974. So they could play The Victors before they could take responsibility for themselves financially, even though many women worked and supported households.
The dad from Freaks and Geeks. One thing of note, for anyone who watched that show. On the final episode, Lindsay had gotten a spot in some summer program at Michigan, which was a big deal, but in the end, she decided to follow the Grateful Dead around with her friends. Bad life decision.
The coach left last year to go to Alabama. Must've been pretty good. I don't follow Maryland baseball except that we know one of their starting pitchers so I've been paying attention the past two years.
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After reading the ESPN article about it, I'm not sure why people think we should try and protect Harbaugh here. His leaving was for him, not us. He thought about himself, and there's nothing wrong with that, but shouldn't we be extended the same courtesy? We have to think about our future interests, too.
Nor should they at this point. We're forgetting that he was not only at the helm during the infractions but committed a few of them himself.
Monopoly money.
I’d be surprised if Harbaugh wanted to weigh in on this at this point. He moved on, it was something he had entertained every off season for the prior three years. I don’t believe it was a hard choice, he had nothing left to accomplish at Michigan. And he’s been the kind of guy who avoids the media if he can. This seems off brand for Harbaugh.
Harbaugh left. He chose to leave. And second, Warde doesn’t act unilaterally on something like this. If anyone blames only him, they’re showing their bias against him.
And let’s remember that Ohio State self-reported a couple of similar violations during the same period. But they’re squeaky clean. 🙄
They’re not. They see this as more validation that we’re cheeeeeeeters.
I 100% agree with you and regret using the word “dumb.” It was a knee jerk response and I actually do know better. My sister is a now sober alcoholic and my husband’s brother and sister are both alcoholics. Ironically their mother was a professor, public health advocate, and researcher in the field and so we speak about this all the time. Everyone I mentioned has experienced alcoholism in different ways, it’s not a binary state — it’s not “you’re either an alcoholic or you’re not.” So I appreciate you speaking up and reminding me that the term “dumb” isn’t applicable here.
I think it’s wrong to assume someone who got an OWI is a dumbfuck. That sort of assumes he was in his right mind and made a dumb decision. If he was intoxicated, he wasn’t in his right mind and wasn’t capable of making a good decision in the moment.
Before she retired, my mother-in-law was a professor and health policy advocate in Washington who specialized in fetal alcohol syndrome, as well as the director of a program that helped children of alcoholics. Her definition of having an alcohol problem is when the drinking interferes with your daily life -- work and family being the most common. You don't have to be someone who drinks all day, every day and can't stop by him or herself (traditional definition of an alcoholic) to qualify as someone with an alcohol problem.
When people do stupid things under the influence (and they're adults), chances are they have a problem with alcohol and need to get help. It's nothing to be ashamed of, it just needs to be addressed. I have several alcoholics in my family. One got sober and is now a sponsor. Another got cirrhosis and then got sober but she's now facing a possible liver transplant. The third lost his spleen when he blacked out and fell down some stairs. Some people can't control the amount they drink. A good friend of my husband, his former business partner, died two months ago from liver failure due to drinking. He was 58 with three kids. No shame, just get help. Alcohol is a beast of an adversary.
I don't know Denard personally but I know people who have drinking problems and can't stop themselves from doing dumb things after consuming alcohol.
Frank Nazar himself liked my welcome post on Facebook. I feel seen.
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Would not have expected that at the beginning of the season.
Even better.
The best superstar to Michigan story was that guy who was a psychology major who partnered with Derek Jeter on a project his freshman year. At the end of the project, the guy said to Jeter, "So what's next for you?" And Jeter said, "I'm going to go play professional baseball," and the guy was like, "Oh, ok, Derek. Whatever you say." Whoever you are, Psychology man, your story is my favorite Michigan sports story of all time.
It may not compare to what networks are making but a $300,000 education isn't nothing, and an education at a good school like Michigan is worth a lot if you know what to do with it. In fact, I'm starting to think scholarships shouldn't be offered if they're seen as so unimportant and meaningless.
I have a friend who looked just like Lance Ito and people came up to him all the time and asked whether he thought OJ was guilty. I think there were even a few times, with a little alcohol in his system, that he played along.
It's a beautiful spot with a great view of downtown Chicago but it's going to be cold come November.
That trial was a shit show. I had a partner at work who was obsessed with it and every morning, she'd offer up a breakdown of the prior day's events and we'd sometimes watch it at lunch. The media coverage was out of control -- I think it was the precursor to the way media covers events today.
The interview:
Ryan Day: We're looking for tough people. Are you tough?
Carlos: Tough as a stale cookie.
RD: You're hired.
Another great one: The Courtship of Eddie's Father.
I can totally see Jim Harbaugh seeing himself in Jim Rockford.
Best TV theme song.
In my house:
I had no idea that the assistant coach at UConn is Bill Murray's son.
We've had a few rats in our backyard..........
In downtown Chicago, it was barely perceptible. We found an empty field and the sky was perfectly clear. It maybe dimmed a little, but not much. The air got a little cooler but nothing drastic. I've spoken to friends who got the whole experience and they were wowed. We were kind of meh.
That there used to be four TV channels and I agonized over having to pick one show over another versus now, where there are hundreds of channels and I can never find anything to watch.
Haha, I was with my 20 year old daughter at a bakery and the tip came up on the screen and before I could give a 15% tip, she said out loud, in front of the cashier, "No, no more of this tipping people who work at cash registers." Uh, wanna get away?
I think in all of sports, people like personalities as much if not more than they like the game. Sure, there are those who simply watch for the game itself and couldn't care less who is playing. But I think fans love to have someone to root for, and some reason to root for them (life situation, personality, some quality that's relatable that has nothing to do with the sport). Caitlin Clark is interesting because she's kind of milquetoast. She says all the right things at the right time, she's not particularly charismatic, but maybe it's because she's the girl next door -- seemingly nice, well-mannered but also a killer on the court.
They have at least two hybrid players -- Rogers and Voit -- and that seems unusual at this level of play. I wonder how many D1 teams have players who both actively pitch and play another position. I could see switching back and forth between infield or outfield positions but pitching is a different animal.
How about Bobby Bonilla who still gets $1 mil/year even though he hasn't played since 2001? He'll get that through 2035.
To your point about NY, baseball, and community, I did some research because my son's name came up in a google search about baseball, but it wasn't him. It was someone with the same name, same spelling (the spelling of his last name, which is my husband's, is unusual) who played in a semi-pro league near Albany (the Slingerland Nine which turned into the Albany Twilight league) in the early 20th century. His contribution and fame was likened to that of Derek Jeter. He was both a player and a coach, and there's a current league named after him. But many of the articles talked about how amateur and semi-pro baseball helped to bring communities together because everyone went to games and there were a lot of teams. And baseball was the premier sport back then. But I thought it was so funny that my son, who played and now coaches baseball, shared a name with someone who seemed to be such a pivotal part of semi-pro baseball in NY.
Chicago is supposed to be 94% obscured. I got some glasses and plan to see whatever that looks like but I really want the religious 100% experience. There's an article in the NYT by a physicist who couldn't adequately describe the experience, which was the whole point of the article. Otherworldly.
We have friends who have traveled from LA to Indianapolis (the wife has family there) with three kids in tow just to see it.
I agree. The need to assign blame to every single situation is crazy. Sometimes things don't work out for a lot of small reasons and there's no need to litigate each and every one to determine whose fault it was.
Buy a lottery ticket and quintuple their earnings.
I'm not so sure NIL is really 100% his purview. Seems like the regents and Ono have some say here, too, as Michigan sees athletics as connected to the university and are concerned with the integrity of any program that's put in place, as well as the optics. That's the culture of Michigan. Harbaugh himself said of the football program that's it's transformational, not transactional. It's very deep in the fiber of the place.
He said it's a rescheduled surgery to address an atrial flutter.
I read the article. I think there's a lot left out so we don't get the context of the fight. Juwan mentions that he's not the best communicator, so it's possible that these two guys never communicated properly and there were issues between them that should've been discussed but never were. This was the boiling point. Overall, it just seemed like Juwan wasn't ready to be a head coach. Having your sons on the team doesn't help in that situation, either. He also should've taken the season off for his health. There's no way you can function properly in a highly competitive atmosphere with all that hanging over your head.
How did you do a double post with different spellings?
How many Solomon Schecter Day School's are there? I know there's one outside of Chicago.
Gay jokes of that kind were widely accepted back then. Or imitating gay men using a lisp. Think about Eddie Murphy’s stand up or his character in “Beverly Hills Cop” when Axel Foley barged into the private club, imitating a gay man. And so many derogatory terms for both gay men and women that were regularly used in public with zero thought about how it might affect someone who was gay. They were treated in many instances like pariah.
Women weren't allowed to have credit cards in their own names until 1974. So they could play The Victors before they could take responsibility for themselves financially, even though many women worked and supported households.
If it had been any other school...........
The dad from Freaks and Geeks. One thing of note, for anyone who watched that show. On the final episode, Lindsay had gotten a spot in some summer program at Michigan, which was a big deal, but in the end, she decided to follow the Grateful Dead around with her friends. Bad life decision.
LOL to whoever styled that photo. All I see are his feet.
The coach left last year to go to Alabama. Must've been pretty good. I don't follow Maryland baseball except that we know one of their starting pitchers so I've been paying attention the past two years.