A: I'll get the shovel, you get the bleach.
B: How Buckeye trees are really planted.
A: No son of mine will be a ditch digger, he's going to community college!
B: OSU, leading the nation in minimum wage.
I think that for next year the goal should be a legitimate bowl bid. As for further on down the road, in my opinion I think we take it year by year. I think most people would like to set the goals in the manner that you are suggesting, such as an average win mark over a period of time, but I think that for now and the next few years it should just be on a yearly basis how we judge him, at least until he can get a full roster of his own recruits. Like I said I think for next year the goal should be at the least the Alamo Bowl which would be around a 7-5 or 8-4 record. I know that after this season that would seem pretty lofty, but depending on who the non-conference games for next year are, it could be a realistic one. I think next year may be a tougher situation for RR in the sense that many fans who cut him slack for this year will lose patience next year, many of them are going to be expecting a New Year's day bowl bid. Realistically that would be tough, especially considering the resurgence of teams like Minnesota (until the last 5 games) and Northwestern within the conference. Either way, I am still excited to see what the off-season brings, and I am confident that in a few years we will be able to look at this season and have a little chuckle of how far we have come.
Your numbers are correct. I may not have worded my words the way I wanted, but what I meant was that their recruiting stays mostly in the state. They do pull recruits from other states yes, but they also have a decent amount of walk-on talent from out of state, and they often attract 1 or 2 star recruits from other states that do more than others to get themselves noticed (i.e. send out tapes of themselves). This dates back to when Alvarez took over and knew that it's easier to pull recruits that grew up watching Wisco football than it is to go out and try to attract people to come to this state. (I am not bashing the state, I love it myself, but obviously we are the joke of the country.) But in short, your numbers are correct, and my statement will lose significance as time goes on, seeing as how Bielema knows the importance of out of state recruiting.
I am appalled by the stories that have been told about people in the Big House and their booing and slamming of players and coaches. This also angers me because having grown up in Wisconsin, I have yet to make my long-awaited pilgrimage to Ann Arbor for a football game (hopefully Homecoming next year). I understand frustration, but deal with it with the class and dignity that we as Michigan fans take pride in. I know that alumni are mad, but the end result will be worth the means. The Rich Rod offense takes time to implement, and we will see some results as soon as next year. Be patient, be calm, we will be back on top soon. Oh, and when I visit the Big House I will be standing and screaming the entire game, if you don't like it you can take your ass to the country club, this is football, not golf.
I live in Wisconsin and see a lot of what Wisconsin does for recruiting, which is 90% in state. The results show on the field, no quarterback, slow lineman, and a shallow bench. It is the tradition that backs and receivers come from New York/New Jersey, but outside that, the roster is flooded with Wisco blood. I realize that High School ball is different in both states (Michigan has larger cities and a greater talent pool). What I am trying to say is that when you recruit mostly from in-state, you pass up opportunities to recruit the better players in the country.
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