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|1 day 9 hours ago||Speaking of "swing and miss",||
Speaking of "swing and miss", do you watch baseball with this same mindset? Because even elite recruiters miss on far more kids than they land.
|1 day 9 hours ago||"Recruiting him" is the||
"Recruiting him" is the answer to the question. That said, he's cousins with J Rich, so would be an even tougher pull than it normally would.
|1 day 10 hours ago||Can't? You mean like when he||
You mean like when he JUST did it for Austin Davis?
You can hammer all day that he should have done it for Langford and not for Davis (I won't even disagree with you)....but saying he "can't" shows how off-base your takes on Beilein are.
|2 days 12 hours ago||If I'm understanding his quote correctly,||
Deontre has jets flying around and fireworks exploding at his home on a regular basis.
That sounds awesome.
|2 days 13 hours ago||Final Fours?||
Shit, how many tournaments has Amaker made?
|4 days 5 hours ago||That sounds, um, personal.||
That sounds, um, personal.
Maybe you need a little go blue pill.
I hope the games don't go to OT, or else they might last longer than four hours.
|4 days 5 hours ago||No, you're thinking of his||
No, you're thinking of his "hoodie pass". But only if manufactured by Nike and using that special stitching they used that one time in 1996.
|1 week 18 hours ago||Speak for yourself. Why on||
Speak for yourself. Why on God's green earth are you chastising someone for providing information in an online forum? There is no reasonable explanation.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Seems like the inside word is||
Seems like the inside word is that Jackson wanted to go to MSU (but lost to mom who wanted him out of state). So, it's not that crazy.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Also profoundly, and without||
Also profoundly, and without any boundlys.
|3 weeks 18 hours ago||That's absolutely not what I||
That's absolutely not what I mean. And I disagree. Some guys can relate better with kids and are better natural salesmen than others. I'm not as frustrated with Beilein's recruiting as others, but it never hurts.
|3 weeks 19 hours ago||If we're hiring a "whatever,||
If we're hiring a "whatever, man" assistant, I'd like to hire someone that can recruit.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Yep. I'd wager a ton of $||
Yep. I'd wager a ton of $ that we'll have the best season of those three programs. If our fans appreciate that less, then that's a choice I guess.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Uh...no. It's a travel if you||
Uh...no. It's a travel if you keep the ball without dropping/dribbling it. Sheesh.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Stephen F Austin's coach is||
Stephen F Austin's coach is off the table as of today, but...you see this in every sport every year. Mid-major program gets hot and then suddenly their coach is in high demand. These types of coaches fail at their next stop more than they succeed. The thing is, if you're going to fire Beilein, it you need a >> 50% chance the situation is going to improve. Even someone like Shaka Smart, who made a Final Four from VCU and has not only been offered but turned down jobs like UCLA (!) has been beaten by Beilein both times we've played. I'm not sure there's an attainable candidate (e.g. Brad Stevens) that gives us a greater likelihood of success than failure, let alone much greater.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Marshall and Archie seem like||
Marshall and Archie seem like great coaches. But the thing is...what makes you think they'd do better at Michigan than Beilein? Why do you think people would laugh at it?
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Fine...and I'd be interested||
Fine...and I'd be interested to see the adjusted numbers...but I would argue that nobody really cares about conference record...they care about conference championships (which is certainly impacted by record), they care about tournament success (which is certainly impacted by seeding, which is impacted by record) but whether we're 11-7 or 10-8 in a given year doesn't rate highly.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||So the guy got a top ten||
So the guy got a top ten class, yes?
He put 6 guys into the NBA?
I guess he *can* recruit?
Also, the advice to "do more of that" is nice. He should also just "do more winning". Hell, why not "do more winning national championships"? Done! We should have thought of this years ago!
|5 weeks 3 days ago||I find the disconnect between||
I find the disconnect between your username and the notion that we are the second best basketball program in our own state to be humorous. Not in an antagonistic way...in a 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife kind of way.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||What is irrational from the||
What is irrational from the Beilein defenders? Genuinely curious.
As to getting bounced by Ohio...yeah, that sucked, but Ohio also made the Sweet 16, where they took a 1 seed to overtime. Sometimes you just run into a buzzsaw.
I'm also not sure why you'd want to discount the Elite Eight run. That Tennessee team was also hot, beat a 6 seed by 19 points, beat a team that beat Duke, etc.
Anyway, 2 B1G titles and 2 deep runs in 9 years is certainly on par with the peaks of our other coaches in this program historically. Strack had a three year run on the back of Cazzie. Orr won two conference titles and had three deep runs. Frieder had a few highly ranked teams but didn't do well in March. Fisher had three deep runs, but never could win the conference, and has an asterisk next to two of those three.
Point is, Beilein is NOT underperforming our "significant history of success". In fact, I'd say he's right in line from the perspective of making the tournament, winning conference championships, and making deep tourney runs. He's light on winning percentage, but I think it's fair to discount his first season and last year given the injuries.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Jackson is the other guy||
Jackson is the other guy that's a plus athlete, but his athleticism didn't skew the game for ND either.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||This team improved a ton from||
This team improved a ton from last year...from a .500 overall club that missed the NIT to one that (technically) won a game in the NCAA Tournament (or at least made the field). Seven win differential......and, importantly, that doesn't even account for the injuries. Another seven win improvement and this team is a 2 seed.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||I actually thought Notre Dame||
I actually thought Notre Dame looked much less athletic than us (save for Auguste, but his impact on the game was not outsized). But they made a lot of shots, and played nice post defense in the second half.
|6 weeks 13 hours ago||Don't be ridiculous. Elite||
Don't be ridiculous. Elite Eight.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||You were correct at the||
You were correct at the beginning of your second paragraph. Coulda shoulda stopped there.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||No. Ok, maybe. But that||
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Why don't you check my posts||
Why don't you check my posts in this thread (also calm TF down)?
Yes, we've played on Monday in April 6 times (read my post above...we have a ton to be proud of), but if you think we're on a level plane with Duke, Carolina, Kansas, UCLA, Kentucky historically then you're out of your mind.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||This post proves I'm capable||
This post proves I'm capable of agreeing with MaizeHaze.
We have a great history. The challenge with it is that so much of it was achieved under different conditions or is just really ancient history for today's recruits.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Ha ha ha ha.(a) False about||
Ha ha ha ha.
(a) False about my paycheck.
(b) Completely irrelevant anyway.
(c) Why don't you try arguing on the merits of the facts? Tell me where I'm wrong.
Strack had Cazzie, Orr had his Green/Hubbard/et al team, Frieder/Fisher had one Final Four team (that counted), Beilein had one Final Four team. Where am I wrong?
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Let's just keep adding to||
Let's just keep adding to your tally of incorrect assertions.
This is a message board, friend. You have to use the words you mean to convey your point of view. There is no other mode of communication here.