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|1 hour 28 min ago||I'm confused as to what your||
I'm confused as to what your argument is. Hoke doesn't get credit for taking a bottom ten defense and turning it into a top 20 defense? Or are you arguing that the players Hoke has recruited since then aren't as good as the ones as were there before?
I can't think of anything that isn't incredibly stupid. Could you clear it up for me?
|4 hours 51 min ago||I'm not suggesting HIPAA per||
I'm not suggesting HIPAA per se, but the ideals of HIPAA. Injury information isn't something that's necessary for the public to know, so why disclose it? It does not help the players, and Hoke is a "players first" type of coach.
|5 hours 54 min ago||27 - 30 Utah. I actually feel||
27 - 30 Utah.
I actually feel optimistic about this game and think we will win, but if we lose, at least I (potentially) get a shirt.
|6 hours 25 min ago||I mean, it's not public||
I mean, it's not public knowledge when you get hurt. There are laws specifically to protect you from people releasing your medical information. Perhaps that's the angle he's coming from there.
EDIT: The guy above me's answer makes more sense.
|1 day 6 hours ago||Look man,||
Call me a "crazy Hoke supporter" if you want, but if there's one thing I hate, it's armchair coaches, particularly those that suggest that someone doesn't know what they're doing just because something isn't happening exactly the way they want it to.
A perfect example is this tempo thing. Is there an argument to be made for running up-tempo offense? Sure. It can catch the defense off-guard and not allow them to adjust to how you line up. It can tire them out. It's not a fool-proof system, however, and it doesn't come along without a lot of practice and coordination. It is possible, and in my opinion likely, that the offense just isn't ready to do that given the new system and green offensive linemen.
Perhaps Nussmeier hasn't been utilizing it during games because he would rather the offense be methodical and give them time to do things he knows they can handle. Perhaps he would rather have the line and QB adjust to the way the defense is aligned and give them a chance to check out of a play.
I don't know. I can't speak for Nussmeier. But I believe that the tempo was called "unacceptable" and "embarrassing" and "malpractice" in the mgoboard thread with no regard for the possible reasons our offense could be going slow, all by internet users that know a tiny fraction of what Nussmeier knows about running an offense. I'm SURE that Nussmeier would want Michigan to be running plays faster than they are now. I also think that it isn't his primary concern, and that he has other things that he wants to see the offense do first.
As for Hoke, the only gripes I've seen about him are mostly the ludicrous "he won't tell us about injuries" complaint and "he isn't winning enough games, fire him." I think we all agree he isn't winning enough games. I also think it's crazy to fire him after he has just come out of the other side of a massive roster deficiency and has done a remarkable job of recruiting coaches and players. The roster is still young. And if we fire Hoke, it will likely set that back another 2-3 years at least.
We are almost there. I think this coaching staff is a great coaching staff as a whole and I would like to see what they can do, given enough time.
My position is not that Hoke or Nussmeier or Mattison are infallible and that I will blindly agree with everything they do. It's that
a) I don't see a realistic definite upgrade in coaching, particularly coordinators,
b) that if we've learned anything from the Rich Rod years, it's that doing a roster makeover and completely changing your program philosophy takes a LOT of time. Doing that for a third time in the past 5 years would not benefit our program.
|1 day 11 hours ago||At least I provide reasoning||
At least I provide reasoning for my stanpoints, rather than "Hoke isn't winning as many games as we'd like! Fire him! That'll totally fix the problem!"
|1 day 16 hours ago||I seriously doubt you know||
I seriously doubt you know the first thing about coaching football. But "coaching malpractice" seems to be your favorite thing to say nowdays. Someone spoon fed you a stat and without analyzing it at all you scream "coaching malpractice." It is quite exhausting.
|1 day 17 hours ago||Of all the complaints leveled||
Of all the complaints leveled at Hoke this year, this one appears to have the most substance. Until you realize that a team doesn't need to be fast to be good.
It is curious that Michigan is taking so long to snap the ball though, since they apparently they emphasized running plays faster in practice. I suspect that further into the year Michigan will show up closer to the middle of the pack once we have a larger sample size against opponents that aren't mostly garbage.
There are valid arguments on both sides on this one. The offense needs time to adjust to the defensive front. Or, the offense can try to line up and snap the ball before the defense can react to the alignment. It appears that Nussmeier is more in the camp that takes their time to adjust to the defense. Which was actually something a LOT of people were calling for around here, for Devin to check things at the line.
|1 day 17 hours ago||He's only jumping the gun||
He's only jumping the gun because he's trying to avoid coaching malpractice by going fast. Hive him a break.
|2 days 1 hour ago||For some reason when I read||
For some reason when I read this my mind thought that our left tackle was suspended, and my heart skipped a couple beats.
|2 days 5 hours ago||I just don't see why it||
I just don't see why it matters. Hoke's job description does not include "disclosing injuries to the media," and ultimately the average fan's opinion about that fact does not matter one iota in regards to his job security.
It is a bunch of people making a big deal out of nothing. But like you said, if he starts winning more often, people won't care about disclosing injuries.
|2 days 6 hours ago||For the love of god. Now||
For the love of god. Now reporting injuries is "endearing."
|2 days 11 hours ago||Hoke has been very aggressive||
Hoke has been very aggressive in the past, and it has both paid off and not worked out.
In this case, once it was 4th and 6, I agreed with the decision to punt. You have the lead, are moving the ball with ease, and your defense is dominating aside from letting in scores on short field situations. Just let it play out in the second half, no reason to go for it.
|2 days 11 hours ago||Actually, you know, I'm not||
Actually, you know, I'm not sure what the rule says for this. Either way, if that's not how it's normally done I can see how it could happen and I don't blame the coaches for assuming it would be done the way they are used to.
|2 days 11 hours ago||On the other hand, why would||
On the other hand, why would you assume that things weren't being run correctly and look at the at clock just in case?
|2 days 11 hours ago||"When the ref told Michigan||
"When the ref told Michigan to break the huddle on the sideline they started the 25 second play clock.
That's not usually how they do it. Usually they call the team to break the huddle, the two teams get on the field, they set the ball and run the play clock. That turned out to be about 15 seconds difference."
|2 days 11 hours ago||He wouldn't have teared up to||
He wouldn't have teared up to Josh Groban?
|2 days 11 hours ago||Regarding the end of half||
Regarding the end of half delay of game - maybe I'm too lenient, but I'm giving he coaches a pass on that one since it was the refs' screw up that caused it.
|2 days 12 hours ago||Not only shortsighted, but||
Not only shortsighted, but stupid. They can (and apparently did) easily look at transaction times and then cross reference security camera footage to find out who was in possession of the card.
Makes you wonder if he's ever watched any CSI or Law and Order.
|3 days 1 hour ago||Sure. We could still win the||
Sure. We could still win the other 8 games on the schedule. Not saying that is a likely combination of events, but hey, you asked.
This game is important only in that it will give us another barometer test going into league play. If it goes well, it bodes well for winning around 9 games. If Michigan loses... well, let's just say I'm going to stay off of this site for the rest of the season.
|3 days 2 hours ago||That was such an odd game.||
That was such an odd game. As bad as that Michigan team was, they were within 3 points of beating Utah. Utah went on to go undefeated and beat Alabama in their bowl game quite handily.
No one at the time knew just how bad Michigan was or how good Utah was.
|3 days 11 hours ago||You probably don't care about||
You probably don't care about things like facts and statistics, but the statistics were not even close to even at half.
|3 days 16 hours ago||Please, by all means tell me||
Please, by all means tell me how it's an idiotic comparison.
|4 days 1 hour ago||After watching MSU lose at||
After watching MSU lose at home to CMU in year three of Dantonio's tenure, did anyone think they would be where they are now?
|4 days 1 hour ago||Hoke took over a team with||
Hoke took over a team with significant roster issues that made themselves evident in the number of true freshman that started in 2011, 2012, and 2013. Not recruiting any offensive linemen in 2010 came back to bite us hard last year.
And that defense under Rich Rod certainly wasn't improving. If you have any doubts about this coaching staff's ability look at the defensive turnaround from 2010 to 2011.
And I agree, I don't think today's win can be taken either positively or negatively, but many of the posters here seem to think the sky is falling when in fact it was a pretty solid showing minus one or two plays that won't be the norm.
Next weekend will be very telling.
|4 days 2 hours ago||Dantonio actually had a worse||
Dantonio actually had a worse record than Hoke during his first three years in the program. You know what has given Dantonio success? Time. Hoke needs it as well.
Why don't we let the games play out? It is kind of premature to call Utah a loss, no? PSU is looking pretty pedestrian.
Can you give me examples of Hoke's poor game management? People actually applauded his aggressiveness when he first got here.
|4 days 2 hours ago||I refuse to think that a||
I refuse to think that a coaching staff that includes Nussmeier and Mattison is incompetent. And say what you will about Hoke, but he is a large part of the reason they are both here, a large part of the reason we have been doing so well at recruiting, and he is proven as a damn fine defensive coach.
But if Michigan goes 7-5 or worse, you're right, it will likely sort itself out. In which case we can stop talking about it. I still don't see how this team loses 5 games with this schedule.
|4 days 3 hours ago||Just think for a second how||
Just think for a second how and why those turnovers happened and ask yourself if they will be a likely occurrence over the course of the season.
The only time Miami seemed remotely in the game was after Miami scored twice from 20 yards out each time after a tipped pass and a fluke kickoff turnover.
Also, don't you think it's possible that team performance can fluctuate from week to week? Purdue got STOMPED by CMU last weekend, do you really think CMU would stand a chance in hell vs ND? The transitive property does not work well in football. ND always manages to make Purdue look better than they are.
If you are actually willing to look past your preconcieved "ZOMG FIRE HOKE" attitude and analyze what is going on each week you'll find that it's not nearly as bad as you'd like to think.
|4 days 3 hours ago||Well that depends, will the||
Well that depends, will the play clock be run correctly? That was the real problem.
|4 days 3 hours ago||Apparently objectivity has no||
Apparently objectivity has no place on mgoblog.