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|6 days 2 hours ago||I simply could not||
root for OSU. I tried, but it was too delicious to see the smug look knocked off Urban Meyer's face.
Now let's crush their spirit next week!
|6 days 6 hours ago||Franklin - bad. Harbaugh - awesome!||
Franklin is the worst in-game coach in all of football. Wasting all his TO's, goal-line decisions, play-calling. Just horrible.
On the other hand, Harbaugh won 2 straight late-season road games, and 3 in the last 4 games. That's coaching, and that's the biggest difference between he and Hoke/RR. His red zone playcalling is masterful.
Hackenberg must hate Franklin so much. Under O'Brien he's a future all-american/Heisman candidate. Under Franklin he's a beat-up scrub.
Jake is playing lights out, and his improvement is just incredible. That said, if Harbaugh had Hackenberg this year, we'd be undefeated.
|1 week 5 days ago||Positive experience||
As others have said, if you work through the ticket office, they should be very helpful and accommodating. Worked for me and my pop. I wouldn't attempt it without their help.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||you are 100% correct||
In professional sports, the only long-term constant is ownership, and teams with bad ownership NEVER win. Does anyone think the Redskins have a chance with Danny Snyder as the owner?
The Wrigleys (Cubs), Yawkeys (Red Sox) and WCF are classic examples of long-term ownership that simply couldn't get it done.
A bad coach or GM can mess things up for years, even a decade - but only a bad owner can create Lions-level ineptitude.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||easy question||
How about because it's ridiculous to schedule and play grossly inferior opponents just to pad the W-L?
What is the fun (for fans or players) of crushing an obviously inferior opponent? Yeah, yeah, Appy State, I get it. Remember, in basketball a #16 has still NEVER beaten a #1.
Mismatches are boring and immediately forgotten. Games against real opponents are exciting, and the memory lasts forever. Our NC games against Miami, FSU, UCLA, Colorado, and yes, ND are classics.
I'll never fly across the country to sleep through a game against Ball State. Give me a real game anytime.
College football is supposed to be fun. This year's non-conference schedule was fun.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||You got me||
This loss hurt more than any game since I was a little kid, in direct proportion to how confidently excited I was all week.
After a lifetime of certainty that Michigan would always - always - be a winning, successful program, everything suddenly changed - we endured a long, dark period.
Miraculously, wonderfully, Michigan football became "right" again. For the first time in years, I looked forward to our matchup with Sparty with confidence.
Then the game. Nail-biter, to say the least. Penalties, mistakes, horrible officiating - but also Harbaugh out-coaching Dantonio for 3 quarters. Special teams dominance. Clutch defense.
In the fourth quarter, we seemed determine to choke it away. Blown coverage, mishandled kickoff return, missed bomb and dropped 3rd down. We were playing tight. Still, we hung on, made one final stop.
Euphoria! That certainty returning. What a happy day! Then...that happened.
So, why do I care so much? I love college football. I love Michigan - my hometown team, alma mater, and a lifelong connection with my dad. I love that our players are real students, that we play by the rules on and off the field. I love our traditions, our history. Nothing is better than a fall weekend in Ann Arbor.
Unfortunately, like I've heard so many coaches say, the losses hurt more than the wins feel good. This one hurts bad.
Like the OP, maybe I need to let it go, at least a little.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||I don't like||
to blame refs - but we lost a player and gave up a TD because of them. And furthermore, how could they not call a PF of Scott for taunting? It was right in front of the ref. Terrible.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||fantastic||
Great work - I didn't think I could get more jacked up...
|7 weeks 6 days ago||I didn't mind it||
While it didn't get the ball back, it did keep the ball out of Likely's hands. Our D was simply not allowing anything, and it felt like the only way Maryland was going to score was on ST.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Like BYU||
NW is a good matchup for us. Big, lumbering guys, not much flash. We'll eat them up at home.
They can't win if they can't score.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Loved||
Loved the fourth quarter, when the entire d-line went beast mode. Almost killed their poor qb.
Durkin + Mattison + Harbaugh = doom!
|13 weeks 2 days ago||Hate ND||
...but they have #2 fight song.
1. The Victors, of course
3. On Wisconsin
4. Anchors Awheigh
5. USC - Fight On
Honorable Mention: Minnesota. Have no idea what ski-u-ma means, but it's a catchy tune.
1. Oklahoma - not only stolen from Yale, but the 'lyrics' - yeesh.
Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner
Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner, OKU
Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Oklahoma
Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Oklahoma, OKU
Yes, those are the actual lyrics.
2. Utah - sounds like "Mickey Mouse Club", and few students/alumni know lyrics
3. MSU - "fighting with a vim?"
|29 weeks 7 hours ago||If UM||
doesn't get that rendition onto one of it's recruitment commercials they are wasting a golden opportunity. Goosebumps.
|29 weeks 8 hours ago||I'm not SEC-oriented||
but the South Carolina fans at the Outback Bowl were the worst I've ever encountered.
Took my dad to the game, and their horrible, racist, obnoxious drunken fans managed to damage what should have been a great memory.
I remember hearing about how bad/racist the fans were when Michigan went down to Columbia in 1985 and crushed the Gamecocks. Michigan didn't play another game in the south (bowls excepted) until the 'bama game at Jerry World in 2012.
Haven't been to any SEC-country home games, so I have no frame of reference - but man, those South Carolina people were awful. Even the idiots in Columbus, OH were better.
|29 weeks 9 hours ago||I get your point||
but scarcity has something to do with that. Too many games in most pro sports really dilutes the product.
I love me some college football, but the atmosphere at a World Series or NBA/NHL finals game is pretty electric.
A big full stadium helps too. Every SF Giants/GS Warriors game is a blast, because they are always sold out, with truly passionate fans.
I agree wholeheartedly when comparing a good college football game to any pro game. Even a place like Chicago or Washington DC that has tradition and a rabid fan base can't compare to a college atmosphere like Ann Arbor or Madison. The NFL seems to actively try to create a boring in-game experience.
|29 weeks 9 hours ago||Top 5||
1. Michigan Stadium (of course)
2. Rose Bowl - anyone dwelling on the negative aspects of an old facility just doesn't get it. Amazing setting, spectacular old building, sensational Rose Bowl organization, parade is fun. The whole experience is first class all the way. No other bowl game can even approach the Granddaddy.
3. South Bend - I can't stand those guys (and don't even say their name in polite company), but the game atmosphere is great, drips with history (especially when it's UM-ND), and the people who actually attend the game are stunningly great. They are the exact opposite of any ND fan I've encountered anywhere else. At the games, they are polite, classy, gracious, knowledgeable and passionate. I've heard the same about Nebraska, but haven't felt an urge to go to Nebraska.
4. Camp Randall - great fans, great town. Fun atmosphere, famously nice Wisconsinites.
5. Cal - Memorial Stadium - fans aren't as passionate (how could they be with the traditional quality of Cal football?), but campus and atmosphere are great. Much better than Stanford IMO. Stanford has a gorgeous campus, perfect weather and a goofy band, but the stadium rebuild is lackluster and the atmosphere is bleh.
Honorable mentions - have always had a great time at Ryan (short walk from sister's house), lots of UM friends and family to enjoy the game together, and practically a home game for UM. Washington - great campus, solid atmosphere.
|29 weeks 4 days ago||uh....no||
Levi's Stadium is in Santa Clara.
Office parks and Great America parking lot.
|30 weeks 4 hours ago||I agree||
With the general belief that there are more people capable of being an effective guard than a tackle (especially a blind-side tackle). That said, I great guard (Hutchinson) can be hugely valuable.
Sorry to stretch the topic, but another position undervalued until recently is safety. For years there were few safeties taken early in the draft, because it was felt a lock-down corner was more valuable and harder to find. Lately, with the emergence of Kam Chancellor and Earl Thomas with Seattle and the Chiefs' Eric Berry (among others), it seems the pendulum is swinging back. A ball-hawking safety that can blitz and take on ballcarriers in space is once again considered hugely valuable.
I never really understood how safeties became an afterthought, since a great safety can be the most disruptive player on a defense. Any of the Woodsons (our favorite played both positions of course), Ed Reed, Polamalu, Lott, Sean Taylor, Kenny Easley - were devastating forces.
|30 weeks 1 day ago||SF||
obviously. High of 77 in the city today!
|31 weeks 1 day ago||sadly||
I'm one of those old heads - I went to every football an hoops home game as a kid, going back pretty far. I even remember the '76 championship game against Indiana. You're right, we had a number of terrific players over the years , and the '89 team was loaded. That semi-final against Illinois was a classic, full of NBA talent on both teams.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'this treatment" - do you mean lower expectations? I don't feel that way at all, but basketball at Michigan is different than football. A few reasons:
First, Michigan is a football school. We like hoops and hockey, but football is king.
Second, I'm sure I'm not the only person who was scarred and disillusioned by the NCAA sanctions and scandal (Heck, I was disappointed by the football sanctions). I remember the ugly rumors about recruiting during the Frieder/Fisher years, and I don't want to cheer for a team that cheats.
Third, college basketball recruiting is a real cesspool. Yes, football can be dirty too, but with smaller rosters and one-and-dones, basketball is just uglier. To me it's no accident JB loses out on many top kids. It has nothing to do with coaching, academics, or facilities. So, I'm satisfied JB does the best he can without resorting to cheating.
I've read everybody's comments about being disappointed in JB's recruiting, and I'm just not. I love where JB has taken the program, and I'm optimistic about the future.
Honestly, I think Frieder and Fisher had more talented players than JB, but he is so much better at player development and actual coaching. It's a treat to watch Michigan run actual plays, with precision and a plan. The lack of turnovers and fouls is amazing, and the improvement of players and teams over the course of a season is stunning.
You said earlier you'd rather have LeVert than Valentine - do you remember the skinny, awkward kid Caris was as a frosh? There may be no other coach or staff in the country that could have turned that kid into a first round pick.
Final thing - I think JB can and will land some highly ranked players. It just doesn't bother me when he brings in rough diamonds instead.
We're gonna have a really good team next year, and probably for years to come!
|31 weeks 2 days ago||I think you're gonna be||
I think you're gonna be pleasantly surprised. Frosh Irvin was not versatile, he was a 3-pt specialist. His stat line was 15.4mpg/6.7ppg/1.3rpg/.4apg. He had one job and one job only. He wasn't much of a defender either. Last year he grew as a player despite his shooting slump, and he should be really dynamic this year.
IMO at least one of our bench guys will give us more than frosh Irvin, and cumulatively they'll give us a whole lot more. This is the deepest team JB has had; I'll be shocked if he doesn't use a somewhat longer bench with more bench PT.
Your point about Morgan is well taken, but remember how much more effective Michigan's outside game was when McGary went off and became a viable inside threat. If Doyle can become more consistent, he could make all the other weapons that much more dangerous. Morgan simply couldn't do that.
|31 weeks 2 days ago||NBA thought so||
Or at least their draft analyst did:
|31 weeks 2 days ago||I don't disagree with you -||
I don't disagree with you - he probably would have gone a few picks earlier; I just don't think a lottery pick was likely.
His draft was indeed stronger at the top, but he wasn't in the picture for a high lottery pick; I don't have the expertise to know if there was much difference down where he was drafted. You're probably more knowledgeable about that.
NBA draft rationale baffles me; it seems they prefer to draft guys on potential, before they learn about actual capabilities and shortcomings. If it's a no-brainer like Kobe or Lebron I get it, but man, some high picks seem like a total crapshoot to me.
I stand by my main point - had he gone after his frosh year, his first NBA year could well have been disastrous for his entire career. If I were in his big shoes, I'd feel I made the right decision based on what transpired. Sounds like you feel differently, and that's cool. I imagine we'd both love to face his financial quandary.
|31 weeks 2 days ago||I'm not an authority - just||
I'm not an authority - just going by what I heard and read at the time. I'm originally from A2 (and an alum) and my fandom goes way back. As the mafia guys say 'I hear things', but I don't qualify as an insider - just an obsessed fan.
Sounds like your info is closer to Mitch than mine. Hell, could just have been wishful thinking on my part.
|31 weeks 2 days ago||I'm pretty sure he wasn't a||
I'm pretty sure he wasn't a "probable" lottery pick. From what I heard/read, he was a probable first rounder, and a longshot to be a lottery pick.
As it turned out, he got picked 21st. I suppose you could say he cost himself millions because he missed out on a year of NBA pay, but then again, if he did indeed have a terrible first year, he could fighting for his career now.
NBA teams don't give benefit of doubt to anybody - they do have an incentive to protect their investment, but that's about it.
I'm no NBA scout, and I admit they seem to draft more on potential than results.
What I do know is that after staying at Michigan, even with his injury, his NBA future looks pretty bright. If I were him, I'd be happy with the way things worked out.
|31 weeks 2 days ago||Exactly - the NCAA sanctions||
Exactly - the NCAA sanctions had a ton to do with it. Sure Michigan brought in some amazing talent in those days, and to do it they at best looked the other way and at worst actively participated in some very dirty recruiting. Some of the very players you mentioned were paid.
Maybe I'm unrealistic, but IMO "Michigan" and "NCAA sanctions" should never be in the same sentence.
By all accounts, JB is squeaky clean, and he's minding the store too. If that costs us some big-timers, I'm fine with it.
Maybe I'm just more easily satisfied - as far as I'm concerned, having a clean, competitive, winning, NCAA-bound team that's fun to watch is plenty good.
|31 weeks 2 days ago||It's gonna be fun to find out||
I agree it's asking a lot of Caris to equal Nik's year, but while he's not likely to match his scoring, he's more well-rounded. He's a plus defender and rebounder, while Nik was a complete liability on D and a so-so rebounder - he had a great nose for the ball, but he couldn't block out. He won POY because he's a magical shooter and a scoring machine.
As for Dawkins vs. GRIII, you're right - Dawkins will have to make a leap to reach GRIII's level, but he showed the athleticism and skill to do just that. He probably won't match GRIII's strength, but he might be more consistent.
Regarding Doyle vs. Morgan, I'm not as pessimistic. Yes, Morgan was a great leader, and did all the intangibles; Doyle's not going to match him there, nor is he going to be as strong a defender. However, Doyle's offensive production as a freshman came close to senior Morgan (Morgan 6.4ppg/5rpg/20mpg vs. Doyle 6.1ppg/3.2rpg/18mpg) - it's highly likely Doyle will be a better offensive player (he sure has better hands) and he's 6'10" vs. Morgan's generous 6'8".
Most important, all those player vs. player comparisons don't take into account the vastly superior bench. Senior Spike will be better than soph Spike, and Robinson, Chatman, Wagner and Maar are potentially WAY better than freshman Irvin. It's entirely possible that one or two of those guys could even be starters and/or big-time contributors.
Yeah, it remains to be seen what they'll actually deliver on the court, but with this much depth, there are a whole lot of potential lineups that could be very, very dangerous.
|31 weeks 2 days ago||wow||
If your name accurately describes you, how did you somehow miss the decade+ we spent in the desert?
We haven't enjoyed this kind of success since the Fab Five. We have a deep, talented team to look forward to, and the best coach in the business. How can we as fans reasonably expect more than that?
I'm thrilled we have an ethical coach who can identify and develop talent. What could be better than watching a successful team that runs a fun system, without a hint of queasiness about dirty recruiting?
We've never had it so good - relax about recruiting and realize what we have now is more than "fair" - it's fantastic.
|31 weeks 2 days ago||From a personal perspecitive||
From a personal perspecitive I totally agree. Watching McGary play reminded me of Charles Barkley at Auburn - just a blast to watch. So much energy and enthusiasm!
Still wish he'd laid off the dope during the tournament...sigh.
|31 weeks 2 days ago||IMO no - pro sports are a||
IMO no - pro sports are a meatgrinder, and first impressions are important.
Sure he would have gotten paid, but his first NBA year could have been disastrous - not as mature, game not as developed, injured.
McGary seems like a great, enthusiastic kid, but he doesn't seem to be the most mature guy around; dealing with an injury, unfamiliar new surroundings and a cutthroat NBA environment would not have been easy.
Lots of very talented guys have been buried with similar circumstances.