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- His record coming into this year was 27-24. Even this Year’s 7-0 record has NO good teams on their schedule. Their best win is possibly Middle Tennessee.
- He has a short head coaching resume that has only 2 good season on it, and that’s counting this season as one of those seasons. (Sounds like Brady Hoke)
- He has never been a Coordinator of any kind. Not that this is a necessity, but I never mind seeing that on a resume. (Again Sounds like Brady Hoke!)
- Has never won a conference champion as head coach (again sounds like Hoke)
- How much of the offense can you really credit Holiday with? He has had the same offensive coordinator the whole time he has been there (Bill Legg). Legg is considered a very smart offensive coordinator who has done well at his previous 2 coaching jobs FIU and Purdue (when they had a good offense).
- Age. As many have said he will be 58 by the time the next season starts. Not ancient by any means, but also doesn’t help him.
- Was hired by Bo Schmbechler in the Mid 80’s and worked for U of M for 11 years.
- His Salary is currently $500,000 and DB’s is $850,000, so Michigan can definitely increase his salary.
- Was named first chairman of the Playoff Selection committee
- Was also AD of Pittsburgh for 4 years. So he has plenty of AD and administrative experience.
- His wife is from Ann Arbor
- Yes he hired Petrino (who is still a great coach), but he handled that whole motorcycle situation well.
- Not going to a hurry up when down 3 scores in the 3rdquarter
- Leaving your two best offensive player on the field late in a blowout loss to Notre Dame (1 getting injured because of this)
- The continual use of the NFL style punt causing your team to be one of the worst teams in the nation at punt return yardage
- Bernard Robinson Jr. - Left for the NBA after his Junior year. Helped us win the 2004 NIT, He was a very versatile player and one of my favorite Ellerbe Recruits.
- Kevin Gaines – Dismissed from the team after his freshman year, but he was good. Averaged almost 12 ppg, 4 rebounds, and 4 and a half assists per game as a freshman. Had league troubles though.
- Manny Harris – Left after his junior year for the NBA. Helped lead us back to our first NCAA tournament in 11 years. Averaged 18.1 ppg, 6 rpg, 4 asts, 2 spg.
- Adrian Arrington – Left after his RS Junior year for the NFL. Had an awesome Capital One bowl game win with 9 receptions for 153 yards and 2 touchdowns.
- Sam McGuffie – Transferred after his freshman year to Rice. Unfortunately had a couple concussions during the season. He was always exciting and no one will forget the Mcguffie Mix tapes!
- Ryan Mundy – Graduated from Michigan but had one year left of Eligibility and transferred to West Virginia. Never played a ton for Michigan, but showed he was a talented player since he had a good year with WV and is having a very productive career in the NFL. Has over 200 NFL tackles and is a Super Bowl Champion!
- Dan O’Neill – OT/G that transferred once Rich Rod got here. Transferred to Western and had a decent career. Was a top 10 T out of high school.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Recruiting||
I think this article gives Mora too much credit for recruiting. Yes he pulled in some good classes, but According to rivals California has 14 top 100 propects for the 2015 recruiting class. Michigan has 2. Of course you are going to get talented kids to stay home and play when there are that many options in your backyard. Further showing this is how well Neuheisal did in recruiting. Other than Neuheisal's last class, his classes were ranked: 14, 10, and 10. So who knows what he will do when he isn't in LA where there aren't 4 and 5 star kids just walking down the street.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Winning = Fun||
Teams typically have fun when they are winning.They aren't going to win by "Just letting them play". This isn't high school basketball. If you aren't running your set system in college ball then you will lose! If they lose they won't have fun.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Indiana and Northwestern...Really?||
Dude are you off your rocker? Since Dave Brandon has left we played Indiana who is probably the worst team in the Big Ten and Northwestern in possibly the ugliest game ever. The Northwestern game was only won because Northwestern fumbled a punt on the 21 yard line. Otherwise we don’t score a touchdown and we probably lose.
You also mention that Hoke started playing players like Drake Johnson (who started playing better). Well I’m not sure if you noticed, but a lot of the reason that Hoke played Drake Johnson is due to the Green getting injured for the year. On top of that, the last game Drake Johnson had 3 yards per attempt against the number 71st rush defense in the nation. Those aren't staggering numbers. Also name one other player that has seen a major increase in playing time since Dave Brandon left?
Lastly, you can’t compare Rich Rod’s first year with Hoke’s fourth year at all, for multiple reasons: 1) We were switching to a drastically different system when Rich Rod came in. Sure there were some slight changes, but we weren’t switching from power to spread in 1 year. 2) This year we have a 5thyear senior qb who was a 5 star in high school. In Rich Rod’s first year we had Nick Sheradin (Walk-on Redshirt Sophomore) and Steven Threat (Redshirt Freshman). 3) Rich Rod only had a couple of his recruits available to play his first year. Hoke has recruited almost every player on offense. So it’s not like he is starting with a bare cupboard. 4) Since it was Rich Rod’s first year he only had less than a year to develop his new team/offense. Hoke has had 4 years to develop the talent on this team and plain out hasn’t done so. Yes the Defensive line has shown improvement, but no other group has consistently shown improvements other than DL.
So, I’m sorry dude, but I am going to have to disagree.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||I'd put him in 3rd or 4th Tier||
There are a few reasons why I am skeptical on this guy. Here’s why:
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Late to the game||
Sorry I know I am late to the comment,s as I am just catching up on the last couple of days of articles. I was glad to hear Brian defend Gardner from the first question in the mailbag and think the person asking the question gives the rest of our offense WAY TOO much credit. Solid backs, receivers, and tight ends? Our backs are average, they barely have any Yards after contact and constantly pick the wrong holes to run through. Other than Funchess we don't have a consistent receiver. And Funchess has been hurt since the 2nd game of the year. We've seen key drops from the receivers and not one of the receivers other than Funchess is a big play threat. Jake Butt is a good Tight End, but is still slowly working his way back to the Jake Butt of last year with his ACL injury. Other than him, no tight end on our roster has impressed me at all. You also have to put some of that blame on Nussmeir and Hoke as well. There has been lots of bad play calls and the coaches inability to get the team up to the line of scrimmage early has cost this offense (and Gardner) on many plays. When the offense gets upto the line with 9 seconds left on the play clock that means Gardner doesn't have time to read the defense and definitely no time to call an audible. By no means do I think Gardner hasn’t had his own issues that have hurt us, but he also is not the majority of the reason for our struggles. Almost any QB would struggle with our offense right now.
|10 weeks 10 hours ago||Jeff Long = Top Candidate?||
I think Jeff Long is possibly the top candidate to fill the AD position. Here’s why:
Not sure if this last piece of information helps or hurts him, but he did go to high school with Brady Hoke. Including being on the same football team and baseball teams as him. The two are friends.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Question||
Why does everybody think that an NFL coordinator is going to leave their job for a college Head coaching position? I can only think of two cases where that has happened without that Coach being Fired from NFL (Charlie Weiss- ND, Will Muschamp -Aub def cord). I know there are a couple other position coaches that left for college, but that is different.
My thought is that most NFL coordinators eventually would want an NFL head coaching job. If they are already a desired coordinator in the NFL (which I hope they are if Mich is looking at them), then they are probably in line for an NFL job soon. For instance if Austin leads the Lions defense for a couple good years then he might start seeing NFL head coaching offers come in this year or next year. Also switching to college means you have to go on the recruiting trail. Granted some guys like that, but I can’t see that as being a selling point to most guys.
I’m sure there are other instances that I don’t know of where a coordinator leaves on his own free will to be a college head coach. But it doesn’t seem to be a regular occurrence by any means.
|11 weeks 10 hours ago||The article wasn't that bad||
I agree 100% with ahw1982 on this. Rich Rod never once says anything bad about the university in this article. He pretty much just mentioned how there was drama unrelated to football. How can you blame him for saying that? He got shafted and that is why ESPN wrote an article about it.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||I'm much higher on Chad Morris then Brian is||
I hope we make a push for Chad Morris and not really sure why Brian thinks their offense has been overrated. Here are their stats:
2013: Offense was 11th in the nation in YPG and 9th in the nation in PPG.
2012: Offense was 9th in the nation in YPG and 6th in the nation in PPG.
2011: Offense was 26th in YPG and 24th in PPG. And that’s with a first year starting QB in Boyd and a Rookie Sammy Watkins. Also his first year so he was still installing the offense.
Doesn’t seem to have any M or Midwest connections and more of an open offense which might hurt him with some of the old crotchety alumni. But overall I like him more than any other offensive minded Coordinator.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Those are not facts!||
First off. I don't care what "facts" you have. There is no way Michigan (under Hoke) could beat Oregon, no matter how depleted Oregon was. So give credit where credit is due. I haven’t seen anyone say Rich Rod is the next Saban, however I do think Rich Rod is a good coach and he is a much better coach than Hoke.
Secondly, you said “It's about fit and RR fits better in the Pac 12 than in the Big Ten. RR's emphasis is on speed while the Big Ten is size and power.” That is not a Fact that’s an opinion. Ohio St has been a spread offense with lots of speed for a while and definitely all the years that Urban has been there. Yet last year they only lost once in the big ten. The year before Ohio State won EVERY GAME! So to say speed doesn’t win in Big Ten is just plain wrong and not a fact!
|11 weeks 6 days ago||It means Nothing if we win||
USA today has Rutgers ranked as the 51st team in the nation. Their best win was either a 3 point win vs 67th ranked Wash St. or a 7 point win vs 66th ranked Navy. They lost to Penn St at home who just got whipped by Northwestern. Rutgers is just a mediocre team.
If we win Saturday this means nothing! Will it be nice...YES! Will it change the Hoke's job security or signify that this team is actually good...NO!
|12 weeks 6 days ago||14-9 Michigan||
14 - 9 Michigan wins
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Coaches can't comment on recruits||
GoWings2008 - Coaches can't comment on recruits. So when have we ever poked fun of a coach for saying they cooled on him?
|12 weeks 6 days ago||I don't think U of M was recruiting him anymore||
Once they got Duncan Robinson UM pretty much stopped recruiting SG's for 2015. So I don't know if it is actually a "loss". Maybe that's why it doesn't feel like a big deal. I think if we lost Derryck Thorton Jr. we would all feel a little worse!
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Last 3 losses and we haven't even been in the game||
Not only has Michigan lost 8 out of its last 12 games, but the last 3 losses have been horrible. Not one of the games did Michigan have a chance at winning in the 4th quarter. You add on the multiple bad decisions that Hoke has made like
And People are fed up. I think you saw a lot of people start to jump on the fire Hoke Bandwagon after ND. Then the Miami win didn’t help because it was a close game against one of the worst teams in the nation. Then to have a fringe top-25 team in Utah come into the Big house and dominate you just made everything mentioned above more magnified. ESPN and the national media have taken notice that attendance is down and that fans are unhappy. When you can’t fill the Big House against a PAC-10 team, then you have a problem. ESPN knows that and that’s why the attention has grown nationally.
|15 weeks 8 hours ago||Last email - Hagerup||
The last email states that Hagerup is inconsistent. Well he has been in the past, but he wasn't our issue on Saturday. He averaged 43.5 yards per punt which was over 5 yards per punt more than ND's punter. Last year 43.5 yards would have had him as the 24th punter in the nation. Not too shabby. Hagerup's shortest punt was only 38 yards which is what the ND punter averaged for the game. So actually Hagerup easily won the punting war in that game. I do agree that our Special teams as a whole is terrible. For some reason we still use the standard punt, which allows more returns then the spread punt. Wile missed 2 important field goals which not only took points off the board, but also gave ND good field position. On offense we had 4 turnovers and 1 other turnover on downs. All of which gave ND great field position. So I don't agree at all with the last emailer mentioning Hagerup as to put blame on him.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||QB coach has only had a couple months of practice with him||
You are correct that those things can be corrected with coaching, but Nuss truly has only had about a little over 2 months of hands on contact with Gardner. He gets about a month in the spring and a month in fall camp. Hard to change bad mechanics in a short amount of time especially when you have 50 other players to work with and teach your new system. I know what you are saying, but it's hard to put it on all on Gardner when you o-line is crappy, you had 3 different systems and 3 different OC/QB coaches, and you were a WR for 3/4th of a year during your career.
|17 weeks 6 days ago||Don't understand how anyone can freak out about basketball||
Other then Mitch Mcgary, none of the other players that have been drafted were rated in the top 50 propescts of their class at the time of their commitment. Arguably next year's go to guy and hopeful NBA prospect (Caris Levert) was a 3 star that was headed to Ohio University. Yet we have still had 5 draft picks and have been to the final game and elite 8 the last two year. So I think people need to take a chill pill. On top of that Beilien himself has said that he doesn't want the one and done players. In a lot of cases that is going to eliminate some of those top guys (pretty much Kentucky's entire roster) that just want to come play for 1 year and be gone. So I wouldn't look for Beilien to make a drastic change in his recruiting. Will you see a little uptick in some high quality guys...YES. But don't expect a loaded recuriting class like a Kentucky, Duke or North Carolina every year either.
|18 weeks 10 hours ago||Not that Worrisome!!||
JCV16, I don't think the donnal stuff is worrisome at all. Donnal still had 6 pts and 5 rebounds in both of his first games. As ACE said, they are playing under international rules which are different. Even if he is behind Doyle then that doesn't mean that Donnal is "not that good". Maybe that speaks more to how good Doyle is. And why would he transfer because of 2 international games that mean absolutely nothing? Even if he was behind Doyle there is still plenty of minutes to go around.
|18 weeks 10 hours ago||Interesting||
It's interesting that Kyle thinks MAAR is more likely to redshirt then Dawkins. Statistically MAAR has had much better games each of the two games. Also MAAR can and probably will play some time at point and which will make him more valuable.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||210 lbs as a sophmore!||
He's 210 lbs as a sophmore in HS. He still has 2 full years before he is even going to start school at U of M. Then another 3 months before he sees any action after that. I think he is probably going to weigh a lot more in 2 years and 3 months then he does now.
|20 weeks 8 hours ago||The bar used to squat is typically 45 pounds||
Not that it matters, because it shows him working hard and that's really all that matters, but the bar is most likely 45 lbs. 45lbs is the standard olympic lifting bar weight and the weight that is most commonly used as a squatting bar in a gym. A 10lb bar would bend with any kind of serious weight on it. So bare minimum the guy is squatting 245. Which isn't too shabby for a kid coming out of high school. Plus he has very good form and goes all the way down. I've seen multiple guys in the gym go down about 1/3rd of the way and think that is 1 rep. This kid goes all the way down which is activating his glutes, quads and hamstrings.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||Bigger in height yes..||
Height isn't everything. Chatman and Wilson might be slightly bigger in height, but they are giving up a lot in weight and strength. Chatman is only an inch taller then Robinson, but gives up over 20 lbs to him. DJ Wilson is 2 - 3 inches taller, but still gives up over 15 lbs. Let's be real here, neither one of those two would start at the PF over GRIII. I could see Chatman push Irvin for time at the 3 in this scenario, but you are talking about replacing a 3-year starter at that position who has helped take us to a final four and a elite eight apperance as our starting PF. Would not have happened.
|30 weeks 5 days ago||Everyone Already Mentioned is Great||
So I wanted to Name some players that have not been said that I liked or could have been very good:
|40 weeks 6 days ago||Agreed on Hardaway and Burke!||
The reason in the article are great and right on, but I don't think you guys are giving Burke and Hardaway enough defensive credit from last year. Neither one was Aaron Craft or Victor Oladipo by any means, but they were a good defense backcourt. Hardaway was consistently responsible for guarding the opposing teams best player (assuming they were a guard or wing) and typically did a pretty good job slowing them down. The closest thing we have to that this year is Levert and he gets beat off the dribble regularly and also needs to add another 10 - 15 lbs of muscle to become a very good defender. Burke was great at picking someone's pocket and rarely got beat off the dribble. Also Burke had 13 blocked shots last year. That would put him tied for 2nd with Jordan Morgan on this team. So yes the reasons Brian gave were correct, but you also have to look at our personel. Having 2 strong backcourt defenders go to the NBA is also a BIG reason.
|50 weeks 11 hours ago||Totally Different Situations||
-Brady Hoke took over a team that was a 7-6 the year before and Auburn was 3-9 last year.
-Michigan had a Jr Qb that was being talked about as a heisman canidate and Auburn had a converted CB running their offense.
-Michigan played a very soft schedule only playing 3 teams that finished in the top 25 (Mich St, Nebraska, Virginia Tech). The only team in the top 20 they played (Michigan St) they lost to. Auburn played 5 teams in the top 25 and 3 of those teams were in the top 10.
-Auburn won the SEC where as Michigan DIDN"T win the Big Ten.
I did love that Michigan team and the run to the Sugar Bowl, but I don't think it is right to compare Malzahn and Hoke's first season. Malzahn's first season was far more impressive.
|51 weeks 6 days ago||Mike Shanahan||
He could potentially be fired from Washington Redskins and he had multiple disagreements with the ownership. Even though Washington had a bad year I still think he is a great coach. Would love to see him in Detroit.
|1 year 1 day ago||I watched him play||
I actually got to see him play in high school a few times because my nephew has played against him for multiple years in a row. And I will tell you he looks solid. Yeah, he made a few errors here and there, but nothing alarming. Also his team around him was not good. His recievers dropped a lot of passes and his offensive line sucked. Just by watching him though I could tell he has a great arm and had a solid accuracy. He also seemed to move around better then most highschool qb's that weren't there just playing QB because they are a track star. Also I am sure 95% of the "film" you watched was from when the kid was 15 and 16 years old. I'm sure he looks a lot different now.
|1 year 1 day ago||Not sure you know what frehman means...||
Shane is still a freshman until next year. He wasn't here in the spring, so he has really only been on the team for 5 months now. Sounds like a freshman to me!
Henne had a Senior Braylon Edwards and a good offensive line and a good running back in Mike Hart. None of which Shane would have luxury of. Also the first game Henne started was a home game against Miami Ohio. If Shane starts then he will be playing a good Kansas State team in a bowl game. Two incomparable situations.
|1 year 5 days ago||Agree with JMblue||
How is that guy going to say he feels certain after 10 games that Walton won't leave after 2 years? No one was talking about Burke leaving for the NBA after his first 10 games. He was good, but not leaving for the NBA good at the first part of his freshman year. As JMBlue said definitely no one was talking about Darius Morris leaving early after 10 games. Shoot no one was talking about Darius Morris leaving early even after he finished his freshman year.