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|8 weeks 6 days ago||This wouldn't make me angry||
This wouldn't make me angry if it weren't for the fact that I have literally never read a single quote from any of our coaches that disparaged a single player in an improper way.
I have also never seen a single one of our coaches use an excuse that didn't relate to the youth on our team, and even when they say that they say it's no excuse and they have to get the players they have ready. Even using that excuse, I've never seen them blame a single loss on any mistake of any player. EVER.
Seriously, listening to this guy is like listening to a politician who just lies without regret because he knows his supporters will blindly believe it, and then get away with it no matter how false he is proven to be. Sad thing about society today - facts don't matter, which bubble you live in does...
|19 weeks 6 days ago||How do I know that this||
How do I know that this probably is some ridiculous haphazard standard that should not be applied to these situations?
Well, prior to being mandated to change the standard, nearly every single University that investigated and punished students for sexual assault used the highest possible standard of proof, and this was almost always a departure from the standard of proof required for lesser offenses. The fact that nearly every independent vote of people closer to the actual situations resulted in a different outcome than the federally mandated rule leads me to believe that the people best suited for deciding this disagree with the federal government on this one.
Secondly, I fully understand the burden of proof in a civil trial. However, as pointed out above, the rules of evidence and procedures used in a civil trial are so far removed from that of the type of hearings we're discussing that comparing them seems pointless.
For instance, it costs A LOT of time and money to sue somebody. You also usually only do it if the responsible party has money to win. You also have to factor in attorney fees, time, travel, the duration of the proceedings, etc.
On the other hand, an alleged victim in one of these cases risks essentially nothing. It's a relatively short process. The alleged victim's name never gets out. She doesn't have to pay for anything, per se. I mean, it doesn't someone anything to make a false allegation it would seem.
I'm sorry, I just find this crazy and ridiculous, personally.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||I really couldn't disagree||
I really couldn't disagree much more.
It honestly doesn't matter to me what happens when a student cheats or is caught drinking in his dorm room. I don't care what standard of proof they use for these types of transgressions. They really are nothing like a sexual assault allegation.
I keep posing this hypothetical and not a single person has ever responded. What would you think if the following occurred:
Your son is dating a girl and has what he believes is consensual sex with the girl. Later, he finds out that she claimed it was not consensual, and he is under investigation. Being that he's honest, he admits to having intercourse with the girl because that is in fact what happened. There is no other credible evidence. It's his word against hers seeing as to how he admitted to having sex. Because of the circumstances and the preponderance of the evidence standard, your son faces a 50/50 chance of expulsion depending on how truthful he and the girl are determined to be.
Would you want those odds for your son for something he swears he didn't do? I wouldn't. Sexual assault is simply not something a university can investigate. It also potentially forces the defendant to have to put statements on the record to defend himself, which could kill his case in a criminal trial. Doesn't really leave many options for the men accused of these assaults.
|21 weeks 1 day ago||"Emmert just said athletes||
"Emmert just said athletes shouldn't be able to capitalize on their own likenesses because of "competitive fairness." Yes. He really did."
Ummmm, isn't he 100% right? If you allowed players to capitalize off of their likeness without restriction, then the entire college system would instantly be dead, and I mean DEAD. This seems pretty obvious.
I know everybody likes to cry about a Minnesota wrestler or whatever not being allowed to pursue a music career, but in reality the problem stems from the fact that the second a star recruit steps foot on campus his likeness becomes worth whatever a booster wants to pay for it. Hey booster, wanna a photo of me for $1000? Why of course, young strapping man, that seems like fair market value for a photo of a guy who hasn't played a down of college football. How would you ever regulate that without just imposing the same types of restrictions?
Honestly, I think bringing this up as if it is some kind of dumb argument from the NCAA reflects more poorly on the person calling it a poor argument than the person making the argument, in my opinion. If you think the whole system should be blown up, then I understand, but to act like this isn't a good argument is truly bizarre unless taken out of context entirely, as you and the original tweet managed to do.
|28 weeks 5 days ago||Where exactly are you going||
Where exactly are you going with any of your arguments? Nothing you have said has been remotely related to reality. Please answer these questions.
If you and another girl were both drunk, had what you believed to be consensual sex, and then to your surprise she accuses you of rape the next day, would you want your fate as a U of M student to be determined by a hearing where the only evidence is your word against hers, essentially? I'm not saying these are the exact facts of the Gibbons case, but seriously, think of what a terrible way to determine something so important. You seem to be downplaying being expelled from a major University like it's a traffic ticket.
What world do you live in where a google search of a guy's name bringing up hundreds of articles claiming he may have raped somebody wouldn't harm his prospects of getting a job? Seriously, is it worth arguing this?
|29 weeks 1 day ago||Worst post I've read on this||
Worst post I've read on this site in a long time.
"There is zero reason to move Jake Ryan to the interior."
Says who? A guy who watched a bunch of film after the games were over? I'm sorry, but stuff like this really gets to me sometimes.
I understand that some people get upset by "trust the coaches" type statements, but has it ever occurred to anybody out there that maybe they actually have information on Jake Ryan and the other linebackers that leads them to believe that they just might be more qualified to make a major decision like this than you are? Do you think they did this on a whim? I'm sure it took weeks and months to make these decisions.
Also, questioning which coach coaches which position is old. Yeah, Manning never played CB, but he also never played RB or DL, two other positions he was previously slated to coach. I'm sure the coaches have some idea of what it takes to make such a move.
|1 year 1 week ago||If a team claimed they would||
If a team claimed they would rather walk out than play to win a national championship, then I would call every member of that team a liar.
|1 year 1 week ago||I think your analysis of||
I think your analysis of Toussaint is WAY WAY off on a few of those. I'm actually more annoyed than anything because now everybody out there is going to say "look, he has all these negative points, start Green!" Toussaint is by far our best back right now.
The -3 for the Chesson crack back block play is silly to me. If you really watch what happens, Toussaint starts to cut inside as soon as he sees the guy blitzing outside of him. Immediately thereafter Chesson blocks him directly into Toussaint's feet. After watching it like 20 times, I think Toussaint did the right thing, assuming that Chesson wasn't going to knock the guy 5 yards back into him.
The other negative to Toussaint on the long delayed draw is even more ridiculous. Toussaint is looking left the entire time, trying to sell that he's pass blocking a free guy coming from the left as a part of the protection. Once he actually gets the ball, his view of the right is even more obscurred. You seem to want him to be psychic and able to know that WRs and OL out 20-30 yards to his right have set up perfect blocking for him when he has absolutely no way to see this or know this whatsoever.
|1 year 6 weeks ago||I honestly don't even know||
I honestly don't even know how to respond to something like this.
This is by far the worst Michigan site to post to for many topics. I mean, you yourself state that my story is interesting, but it's no longer worth reading because it uses the term a-hole? Does that actually have any effect on the content of my post whatsoever? I mean, honestly, the word that originally came to mind was asshole, so I used the friendlier version. Obviously, everybody out there from some 10 year old kid to some graduate of the 1948 class understand exactly what I'm saying without being horribly offended.
I honestly couldn't care less about the points attached to my name on here. I'm only wasting the time to write this because I'm not the only person on this board who is just tired of half the posts on a given topic being about typos, incorrect grammar, and thread titles that aren't fully informative. It really takes a lot away from the site. It just reenforces the stereotypes of arrogance and condescension that fans of other teams associate with Michigan and its students.
|1 year 6 weeks ago||Wanna hear an incredible story of what an A-hole Gee is?||
This story still blows my mind to this day, and I have no reason to not believe it.
I went to law school with this guy who was maybe the single nicest, most honest, and most friendly guy that ever lived. He was from a Utah and apparently grew up either in the town that Gee did or from a town very close thereto.
Anyway, through some group or association or something he was involved in for law school (can't remember what it was) he was to attend a national conference held at THE Ohio State University. Having always grown up hearing about what a crazy success Gee was in his area, he decided to try and see if he could schedule a meeting with Gee based on the premise that they were from the same home town or area or whatever. Sure enough, after going through the proper channels, Gee agreed to meet with him.
My friend shows up to meet Gee in his office. Right off the bat Gee starts going off about his Mormon faith and starts discussing it with my friend. My friend was embarassed as he had to awkwardly inform Gee that despite being from Mormon central he was in fact not Mormon.
Gee cut off the interview and asked him to leave. Again, the guy who told this story was without exception the nicest and most honest person (and especially lawyer) that anyone has ever met. I believe him 100%. And with that, Gee is officially a giant prejudiced A-hole. His Catholic comments were also not a shock to me based on this interaction with my friend.
|1 year 7 weeks ago||Here is the explanation||
You can only have a certain number of players report for the start of Fall camp. You can then add more at a later date before the season starts (this is when non-preferred walk-ons usually join the team). This has been explained to us in relation to guys like Bell and Wilkins, who despite being scholarship players, were asked to not report to Fall camp because there were walk-ons who were more deserving and valuable to the team to be getting practice reps. These players of course saw the writing on the wall and left the program.
There would be absolutely positively NO reason to let Hagerup attend Fall camp. He'd be a wasted spot if he can't play this season. After Fall camp, he can report like a walk-on and rejoin the team without penalty.
|1 year 8 weeks ago||Dawson apparently ran his 40||
Dawson apparently ran his 40 in the 4.4 range when he reported, which is damn impressive for a 6'2 corner.
He also reported times of 4.39 at two consecutive camps after his junior year, but there's little evidence those were laser-timed etc.,so take them with a grain of salt.
Anyway, who knows if he'll ever play a meaningful down (because he's way behind technique-wise), but there's little doubting he has the athleticism to be something special if he can bring it all together.
|1 year 8 weeks ago||Please read this with the||
Please read this with the same skepticism that I did, but Sam Webb recently claimed that Hill was one of the incoming freshmen that prompted mention from the coaches for being unexpectedly huge and athletic when he reported. I can't find the post claiming this, but I'm pretty sure he tested/measured as follows:
260 lbs (!!!???)
4.6-4.7 40 range (!!!???)
If these are actually true, the ceiling/excitement level may be altered slightly. However, I'll believe it when I see it.
(btw, other guys mentioned as athletic freaks - Gedeon and Reon Dawson)
|1 year 10 weeks ago||Random update from myself -||
Random update from myself - just checked the Rivals profiles of 5 random recruits. All 5 were again, identical to the heights and weights listed here.
This list does nothing by compile heights/weights from Rivals and ESPN. Don't get your panties all in a twist if a FR isn't the height/weight you wanted them to be.
|1 year 10 weeks ago||I wouldn't bet on ANY of||
I wouldn't bet on ANY of these being up to date.
Many of the freshmen heights/weights are IDENTICAL to the heights/weights listed for these same guys on recruiting websites as long as a year ago. IDENTICAL. In fact, the guys from The Opening that didn't enroll early - IDENTICAL. Also, many of the FR guys have done articles more recently where they claimed to be 15-20 lbs heavier than many of these. I doubt every kid lied and in turn every year old scouting report is right. Think about it.
Almost every single height/weight for the veteran players are IDENTICAL to the height/weights listed on the spring roster. IDENTICAL.
In other words, wait until fall practice. The "official" roster officially changed when the actual season started last year too.
|1 year 16 weeks ago||Wow, I've been reading this||
Wow, I've been reading this blog for about 4 years and I'm still not ready? What a waste of time...
On an actual relevant note, you appear to have ignored the actual basis of my argument - that in the void of Terry Richardson playing for Michigan at 160 and not gaining a pound in the past year there is no way that Lewis would spur such doubt.
Raymon Taylor reported to Michigan at 5'10 169 and .... oh hell, why am I arguing with somebody who wrote lololol in their response? I have better things to do.
|1 year 16 weeks ago||I'm sorry, I don't agree with||
I'm sorry, I don't agree with much of this at all.
For being such an analytical guy you sure do put way too much stock in the fact that he attended Cass. What do the careers of 3 pervious players have to do with his ability to play? Nothing. Do you think OSU fans are lamenting Webb because he went to Cass? It's an illogical argument that tries to equate correlation with causation.
Secondly, you make it sound like he's hopelessly small. He's measured in at 5'10 and 5'11 at various camps, depending on the camp. 5'11 is the average height of an NFL corner. He's about 160 right now with no evidence that he has lifted as he is skinny and just plain doesn't look like a guy who has lifted. Stribling is 6'2 and only 170, but it's assumed he'll gain weight, yet he appears to be just as skinny. Why is it likely that one will gain the weight and not the other? Because Terry Richardson didn't?
Sorry, I think it's odd that one of our highest ranked recruits is treated as a meh recruit because of some guys with no actual input on his ability or potential.
|1 year 17 weeks ago||Well, on the other end of the||
Well, on the other end of the spectrum, it appears that Rivals may end up being WAY off on their rankings of the 2012 class as it relates to Michigan and 3 stars.
The 3 stars of interest with my notes included:
Ben Braden - labeled "as talented as Lewan, if not moreso" by a scout team player.
Mario Ojemudia - played as a 230 lb true freshman, touted as future star by some practice observers.
Willie Henry - named the most impressive RS FR by numerous players, regardless of position.
Chris Wormley - many think he would have been 2nd string as a true FR last year, many close to the program expect him to overtake Heitzman sooner than later this year. Future NFL level player.
Devin Funchess - pretty obvious here.
AJ Williams - pretty much a starter as a true freshman.
Jehu Chesson - expected to be a huge contributor going forward. Was dinged in ratings for lack of speed...runs 10.7 in 100 meter dash. Does not compute...
Jeremy Clark - named best RS FR by at least one player. Noted as great athlete with great size who REALLY hits people by practice observers.
Matt Godin - many say that if Womrley had not recovered, you'd replace Wormley with Godin as the next player in line to eventually beat out Heitzman. Practice observers love the kid.
Some will debate my "notes" on the players here, but I base these on pretty reliable sources (including player comments and coach comments as indicated). Also, being a good player or starter doesn't mean you shouldn't have been a 3 star still, I get that. Also, not all of these guys can start when they play similar positions etc. Finally, I understand that practice hype does not equal stardom, but it's probably going to more often than not with this staff.
I'm merely pointing out that in a top 10 class the Rivals rankings included numerous 3 star players who were actually on top 100 lists of other sites, and these guys have all panned out well (as well as you can after just a year at least). In fact, the 3 stars from the class may outplay the 4 stars from the class eventually. That's a huge miss.
I think the biggest problem schools like Michigan will face will be the inherent flaw in rankings - regional bias and inconsistency of rating criteria. Josh Helmholdt, a UM guy originally, is WAY too obsessed with a player's current size and skill set. This really hurts Midwest guys because they often have half the football exposure as southern kids and Cali kids etc. Coaches look for teachable athletes, not finished products. Helmholdt is yet to master this art.
|1 year 17 weeks ago||About to blow your mind...||
I actually totally agree with you that we need more OTs, but I think people are way too quick to slap "guard" on any guy that isn't 6'6 or bigger.
Here are some actual heights from the NFL combine:
Those are the heights of every OT drafted this year in the top 3 rounds that wasn't a top ten pick. Not what you would expect if you follow recruiting, where every 6'5 and under guy is a presumed guard...
|1 year 18 weeks ago||I'm not disagreeing at all. I||
I'm not disagreeing at all. I hope we get to the point where we can redshirt every guy (well, not EVERY guy, but as many as possible) because an older more experienced player with similar talent is ahead of the guy redshirting.
The best way I can summarize my overall feelings on redshirting most positions is to say: when is the last time an Alabama fan complained about a senior burning his redshirt? Probably not too recently. I mean, they lost something like 7 draftees off their defense prior to last season and they were once again the best defense in the country. That's when you know it doesn't matter.
|1 year 18 weeks ago||Yeah, but presumably the way||
Yeah, but presumably the way Hoke is building the team he will have signed 2-3 guys at that position in the classes after the 4/5 star I mentioned and those guys will be the guys competing to be 2nd on the depth chart the next season.
The problem we've had in recent memory is huge holes in recruiting classes where needs that had to be met were never met. That will not happen under Hoke because he seems to put an emphasis on taking exactly as many players as they need at each position. Hell, every time a player leaves at a particular position, the coaches seem to offer more players at that position until they get another one. This has happened numerous times the past couple years, and it makes your roster much more seamless.
|1 year 18 weeks ago||Yeah, but it's much easier to||
Yeah, but it's much easier to say that after 2 coaching changes including a few recruiting classes (2005 and 2010) where half of the players were off the team by the end of their careers.
My whole point is that the stability and approach of Hoke as a coach makes this really a non-issue. For one, Hoke seems to put more emphasis on recruiting X number of players to a certain spot in a given year over just recruiting whoever he can get or waiting on higher ranked prospects. Secondly, when he takes those players, they are often pretty darn good and dedicated to getting better. Also, these players actually improve over time and seem ready to play by their 2nd or 3rd year.
Add all of this up and it doesn't really seem to matter all that much. In contrast, RR for instance had whole years where we took 1-2 OL or DT or signed 6 slot receivers etc. Eventually, it caught up with us. Look at the players Hoke has brought in just the last 2.5 classes. If you stack them up, it's a solid 2-3 deep just off 2.5 classes with every position covered. Huge difference.
|1 year 18 weeks ago||Two points:||
1) How does losing a player that was 2nd on the depth chart not affect the 2-deep? (Robinson battled Wilson for the other starting safety spot the entire spring).
2) Why does everybody get so butt hurt by redshirts being burned for safeties/corners/linebackers etc? Does it really matter that much outside of the quarterback position? When you're recruiting and developing talent like we have the past few years, I guarantee 99% of these burnt red-shirts will have no effect on anything. Half the players will not be starters by the end of their careers (like Marvin Robinson), some of the rest will be stars and will potentially be ready to leave for the NFL after 4 years regardless of redshirting or not, and those players who you kinda wish had another year will probably just be replaced with a high 4-star/5 star player who everybody is eager to get on the field anyway.
It's really not a big deal unless some crazy injury bug or attrition hits one position and you wish that one guy was still around, and even when that happens, there is no way anybody could have accounted for that happening when the decision is first made, so why have a mental breakdown based on hindsight?
|1 year 20 weeks ago||I would definitely go for it||
I would definitely go for it on 4th down before I punted...
|1 year 37 weeks ago||The reason that he will||
The reason that he will likely not pick Michigan is because we actually may be having a problem getting him an early enrollee spot. I know this sounds dumb, but this was supposedly the issue with Arnett last year too.
Also, I'm not just totally pulling this out of my arse. This was my first thought after reading something Sam Webb put out on Scout, mainly that there was a non-shady something to work out kinda thing that was looking hard to work out, hence making Michigan almost a non-factor if this something working out doesn't get worked out. Only one other poster directly asked Webb if this was along the lines of the problem, yet among several dumb responses he totally ignored to add anything to this question. This seems more than likely then, and likely also eliminates USC as they recently lost a commit to not being able to take another early enrollee (and they only just recently realized this, so this happening to McQuay wouldn't be so hard to believe).
Of course, people like myself wonder why seniors that aren't playing anymore count toward your numbers in some bizarre way around early enrolling time. Well, at least I think this is the case, based on comments made last year as mentioned above. Who knows, but this is a VERY likely reason, and Webb said this same reason may have eliminated other schools...
|1 year 39 weeks ago||Is there a shred of evidence||
Is there a shred of evidence that Derrick Green actually plans to enroll early? I read this on a daily basis, yet all information points to this not being true. For instance, a recent mention of Green's recruitment said that his coach expected him to make his decision on signing day. That's not something an early enrollee does. I also have never read a reference from a pay-site mod discussing how his early enrollee status affects his recruitment, yet I see such articles in reference to McQuay often. I just get the feeling that this is not accurate information at this point in time. Please somebody correct me if I'm missing an unambigious quote from Green himself confirming that this will happen.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||I looked up if that 40 time||
I looked up if that 40 time was from the opening and I became even more convinced that this guy really does have elite speed. He finished 4th in the 40 at the entire event, an event featuring probably the best collection of talent of any camp/combine this year.
It's amazing that we're about to go from over a decade of generally unathletic safeties (except for Stevie Brown, but that didn't work out as planned) to having two of the fastest guys at the position in the country. Dymonte Thomas has reported run hand-timed 4.3s this off-season, so it's probably pretty safe to assume he's also a sub 4.5 guy if timed electronically (I also have seen stories mentioning that he ran an NFL combine-style electronically timed 4.57 when he was only a sophomore, so even more reason to believe so). This isn't even mentioning that Wilson isn't a slouch speed-wise either.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||Shouldn't his 40 time have 0||
Shouldn't his 40 time have 0 FAKES out of 5?
He got that 4.44 time from the Opening, where they used actual NFL combine style timing methods to my knowledge (I apologize ahead of time if I'm wrong on this). I mean, if a guy getting timed with an electronically controlled finish line can't get 0 FAKES, who can?
|1 year 47 weeks ago||A ten year war is not a||
A ten year war is not a concept Urban Meyer could understand. He maxes out at 5 years a coaching stop.
Seriously though, with all his "rules" and the pressure at OSU I can see him flaming out in no time. It actually kinda pisses me off that he's 8-0 just because their schedule is an absolute joke. If we played their schedule we'd be 8-0 as well, and if they played ours they'd be lucky to be 5-2 right now I'd guess. Their defense would have been a mess against Air Force, and their offense has been absolutely terrible for long stretches of games this season. They needed a miracle to beat Purdue at home, and we beat them by 31 on the road. Anyway, rant over, I'm just sick of OSU fans thinking their team is any good after near losses to Purdue, Indiana, California, and MSU already.
|1 year 47 weeks ago||I do actually agree with you||
I do actually agree with you for the most part, and as I stated, I have learned to not take this crap too seriously anymore. The fact that others feel the need to call kids names on twitter is sad, but unfortunately predictable.
He has a twitter handle that I'm assuming has thousands of followers (I don't use twitter) who were mostly Michigan fans. He didn't have to give them access to his twitter feed. He chose to, and he abused it by being pretty immature with the whole medium. These same people were great when he was a Michigan commit because they reacted to everything he did and he got attention. If he couldn't handle the obvious backlash coming, maybe he should have deleted the account. He doesn't need it. I'm positive he could create a new one and follow/get followed by his actual friends without incident. Instead, he sat around and argued with the people. It's like politics, expect to get some hate.