Mason NEEDS this, Pistons, after all you've put him through
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Where exactly are you going||
Where exactly are you going with any of your arguments? Nothing you have said has been remotely related to reality. Please answer these questions.
If you and another girl were both drunk, had what you believed to be consensual sex, and then to your surprise she accuses you of rape the next day, would you want your fate as a U of M student to be determined by a hearing where the only evidence is your word against hers, essentially? I'm not saying these are the exact facts of the Gibbons case, but seriously, think of what a terrible way to determine something so important. You seem to be downplaying being expelled from a major University like it's a traffic ticket.
What world do you live in where a google search of a guy's name bringing up hundreds of articles claiming he may have raped somebody wouldn't harm his prospects of getting a job? Seriously, is it worth arguing this?
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Worst post I've read on this||
Worst post I've read on this site in a long time.
"There is zero reason to move Jake Ryan to the interior."
Says who? A guy who watched a bunch of film after the games were over? I'm sorry, but stuff like this really gets to me sometimes.
I understand that some people get upset by "trust the coaches" type statements, but has it ever occurred to anybody out there that maybe they actually have information on Jake Ryan and the other linebackers that leads them to believe that they just might be more qualified to make a major decision like this than you are? Do you think they did this on a whim? I'm sure it took weeks and months to make these decisions.
Also, questioning which coach coaches which position is old. Yeah, Manning never played CB, but he also never played RB or DL, two other positions he was previously slated to coach. I'm sure the coaches have some idea of what it takes to make such a move.
|32 weeks 3 days ago||If a team claimed they would||
If a team claimed they would rather walk out than play to win a national championship, then I would call every member of that team a liar.
|32 weeks 4 days ago||I think your analysis of||
I think your analysis of Toussaint is WAY WAY off on a few of those. I'm actually more annoyed than anything because now everybody out there is going to say "look, he has all these negative points, start Green!" Toussaint is by far our best back right now.
The -3 for the Chesson crack back block play is silly to me. If you really watch what happens, Toussaint starts to cut inside as soon as he sees the guy blitzing outside of him. Immediately thereafter Chesson blocks him directly into Toussaint's feet. After watching it like 20 times, I think Toussaint did the right thing, assuming that Chesson wasn't going to knock the guy 5 yards back into him.
The other negative to Toussaint on the long delayed draw is even more ridiculous. Toussaint is looking left the entire time, trying to sell that he's pass blocking a free guy coming from the left as a part of the protection. Once he actually gets the ball, his view of the right is even more obscurred. You seem to want him to be psychic and able to know that WRs and OL out 20-30 yards to his right have set up perfect blocking for him when he has absolutely no way to see this or know this whatsoever.
|37 weeks 2 days ago||I honestly don't even know||
I honestly don't even know how to respond to something like this.
This is by far the worst Michigan site to post to for many topics. I mean, you yourself state that my story is interesting, but it's no longer worth reading because it uses the term a-hole? Does that actually have any effect on the content of my post whatsoever? I mean, honestly, the word that originally came to mind was asshole, so I used the friendlier version. Obviously, everybody out there from some 10 year old kid to some graduate of the 1948 class understand exactly what I'm saying without being horribly offended.
I honestly couldn't care less about the points attached to my name on here. I'm only wasting the time to write this because I'm not the only person on this board who is just tired of half the posts on a given topic being about typos, incorrect grammar, and thread titles that aren't fully informative. It really takes a lot away from the site. It just reenforces the stereotypes of arrogance and condescension that fans of other teams associate with Michigan and its students.
|37 weeks 2 days ago||Wanna hear an incredible story of what an A-hole Gee is?||
This story still blows my mind to this day, and I have no reason to not believe it.
I went to law school with this guy who was maybe the single nicest, most honest, and most friendly guy that ever lived. He was from a Utah and apparently grew up either in the town that Gee did or from a town very close thereto.
Anyway, through some group or association or something he was involved in for law school (can't remember what it was) he was to attend a national conference held at THE Ohio State University. Having always grown up hearing about what a crazy success Gee was in his area, he decided to try and see if he could schedule a meeting with Gee based on the premise that they were from the same home town or area or whatever. Sure enough, after going through the proper channels, Gee agreed to meet with him.
My friend shows up to meet Gee in his office. Right off the bat Gee starts going off about his Mormon faith and starts discussing it with my friend. My friend was embarassed as he had to awkwardly inform Gee that despite being from Mormon central he was in fact not Mormon.
Gee cut off the interview and asked him to leave. Again, the guy who told this story was without exception the nicest and most honest person (and especially lawyer) that anyone has ever met. I believe him 100%. And with that, Gee is officially a giant prejudiced A-hole. His Catholic comments were also not a shock to me based on this interaction with my friend.
|38 weeks 2 days ago||Here is the explanation||
You can only have a certain number of players report for the start of Fall camp. You can then add more at a later date before the season starts (this is when non-preferred walk-ons usually join the team). This has been explained to us in relation to guys like Bell and Wilkins, who despite being scholarship players, were asked to not report to Fall camp because there were walk-ons who were more deserving and valuable to the team to be getting practice reps. These players of course saw the writing on the wall and left the program.
There would be absolutely positively NO reason to let Hagerup attend Fall camp. He'd be a wasted spot if he can't play this season. After Fall camp, he can report like a walk-on and rejoin the team without penalty.
|39 weeks 2 days ago||Dawson apparently ran his 40||
Dawson apparently ran his 40 in the 4.4 range when he reported, which is damn impressive for a 6'2 corner.
He also reported times of 4.39 at two consecutive camps after his junior year, but there's little evidence those were laser-timed etc.,so take them with a grain of salt.
Anyway, who knows if he'll ever play a meaningful down (because he's way behind technique-wise), but there's little doubting he has the athleticism to be something special if he can bring it all together.
|39 weeks 2 days ago||Please read this with the||
Please read this with the same skepticism that I did, but Sam Webb recently claimed that Hill was one of the incoming freshmen that prompted mention from the coaches for being unexpectedly huge and athletic when he reported. I can't find the post claiming this, but I'm pretty sure he tested/measured as follows:
260 lbs (!!!???)
4.6-4.7 40 range (!!!???)
If these are actually true, the ceiling/excitement level may be altered slightly. However, I'll believe it when I see it.
(btw, other guys mentioned as athletic freaks - Gedeon and Reon Dawson)
|41 weeks 4 days ago||Random update from myself -||
Random update from myself - just checked the Rivals profiles of 5 random recruits. All 5 were again, identical to the heights and weights listed here.
This list does nothing by compile heights/weights from Rivals and ESPN. Don't get your panties all in a twist if a FR isn't the height/weight you wanted them to be.
|41 weeks 4 days ago||I wouldn't bet on ANY of||
I wouldn't bet on ANY of these being up to date.
Many of the freshmen heights/weights are IDENTICAL to the heights/weights listed for these same guys on recruiting websites as long as a year ago. IDENTICAL. In fact, the guys from The Opening that didn't enroll early - IDENTICAL. Also, many of the FR guys have done articles more recently where they claimed to be 15-20 lbs heavier than many of these. I doubt every kid lied and in turn every year old scouting report is right. Think about it.
Almost every single height/weight for the veteran players are IDENTICAL to the height/weights listed on the spring roster. IDENTICAL.
In other words, wait until fall practice. The "official" roster officially changed when the actual season started last year too.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||Wow, I've been reading this||
Wow, I've been reading this blog for about 4 years and I'm still not ready? What a waste of time...
On an actual relevant note, you appear to have ignored the actual basis of my argument - that in the void of Terry Richardson playing for Michigan at 160 and not gaining a pound in the past year there is no way that Lewis would spur such doubt.
Raymon Taylor reported to Michigan at 5'10 169 and .... oh hell, why am I arguing with somebody who wrote lololol in their response? I have better things to do.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||I'm sorry, I don't agree with||
I'm sorry, I don't agree with much of this at all.
For being such an analytical guy you sure do put way too much stock in the fact that he attended Cass. What do the careers of 3 pervious players have to do with his ability to play? Nothing. Do you think OSU fans are lamenting Webb because he went to Cass? It's an illogical argument that tries to equate correlation with causation.
Secondly, you make it sound like he's hopelessly small. He's measured in at 5'10 and 5'11 at various camps, depending on the camp. 5'11 is the average height of an NFL corner. He's about 160 right now with no evidence that he has lifted as he is skinny and just plain doesn't look like a guy who has lifted. Stribling is 6'2 and only 170, but it's assumed he'll gain weight, yet he appears to be just as skinny. Why is it likely that one will gain the weight and not the other? Because Terry Richardson didn't?
Sorry, I think it's odd that one of our highest ranked recruits is treated as a meh recruit because of some guys with no actual input on his ability or potential.
|47 weeks 5 days ago||Well, on the other end of the||
Well, on the other end of the spectrum, it appears that Rivals may end up being WAY off on their rankings of the 2012 class as it relates to Michigan and 3 stars.
The 3 stars of interest with my notes included:
Ben Braden - labeled "as talented as Lewan, if not moreso" by a scout team player.
Mario Ojemudia - played as a 230 lb true freshman, touted as future star by some practice observers.
Willie Henry - named the most impressive RS FR by numerous players, regardless of position.
Chris Wormley - many think he would have been 2nd string as a true FR last year, many close to the program expect him to overtake Heitzman sooner than later this year. Future NFL level player.
Devin Funchess - pretty obvious here.
AJ Williams - pretty much a starter as a true freshman.
Jehu Chesson - expected to be a huge contributor going forward. Was dinged in ratings for lack of speed...runs 10.7 in 100 meter dash. Does not compute...
Jeremy Clark - named best RS FR by at least one player. Noted as great athlete with great size who REALLY hits people by practice observers.
Matt Godin - many say that if Womrley had not recovered, you'd replace Wormley with Godin as the next player in line to eventually beat out Heitzman. Practice observers love the kid.
Some will debate my "notes" on the players here, but I base these on pretty reliable sources (including player comments and coach comments as indicated). Also, being a good player or starter doesn't mean you shouldn't have been a 3 star still, I get that. Also, not all of these guys can start when they play similar positions etc. Finally, I understand that practice hype does not equal stardom, but it's probably going to more often than not with this staff.
I'm merely pointing out that in a top 10 class the Rivals rankings included numerous 3 star players who were actually on top 100 lists of other sites, and these guys have all panned out well (as well as you can after just a year at least). In fact, the 3 stars from the class may outplay the 4 stars from the class eventually. That's a huge miss.
I think the biggest problem schools like Michigan will face will be the inherent flaw in rankings - regional bias and inconsistency of rating criteria. Josh Helmholdt, a UM guy originally, is WAY too obsessed with a player's current size and skill set. This really hurts Midwest guys because they often have half the football exposure as southern kids and Cali kids etc. Coaches look for teachable athletes, not finished products. Helmholdt is yet to master this art.
|48 weeks 2 days ago||About to blow your mind...||
I actually totally agree with you that we need more OTs, but I think people are way too quick to slap "guard" on any guy that isn't 6'6 or bigger.
Here are some actual heights from the NFL combine:
Those are the heights of every OT drafted this year in the top 3 rounds that wasn't a top ten pick. Not what you would expect if you follow recruiting, where every 6'5 and under guy is a presumed guard...
|48 weeks 6 days ago||I'm not disagreeing at all. I||
I'm not disagreeing at all. I hope we get to the point where we can redshirt every guy (well, not EVERY guy, but as many as possible) because an older more experienced player with similar talent is ahead of the guy redshirting.
The best way I can summarize my overall feelings on redshirting most positions is to say: when is the last time an Alabama fan complained about a senior burning his redshirt? Probably not too recently. I mean, they lost something like 7 draftees off their defense prior to last season and they were once again the best defense in the country. That's when you know it doesn't matter.
|48 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah, but presumably the way||
Yeah, but presumably the way Hoke is building the team he will have signed 2-3 guys at that position in the classes after the 4/5 star I mentioned and those guys will be the guys competing to be 2nd on the depth chart the next season.
The problem we've had in recent memory is huge holes in recruiting classes where needs that had to be met were never met. That will not happen under Hoke because he seems to put an emphasis on taking exactly as many players as they need at each position. Hell, every time a player leaves at a particular position, the coaches seem to offer more players at that position until they get another one. This has happened numerous times the past couple years, and it makes your roster much more seamless.
|48 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah, but it's much easier to||
Yeah, but it's much easier to say that after 2 coaching changes including a few recruiting classes (2005 and 2010) where half of the players were off the team by the end of their careers.
My whole point is that the stability and approach of Hoke as a coach makes this really a non-issue. For one, Hoke seems to put more emphasis on recruiting X number of players to a certain spot in a given year over just recruiting whoever he can get or waiting on higher ranked prospects. Secondly, when he takes those players, they are often pretty darn good and dedicated to getting better. Also, these players actually improve over time and seem ready to play by their 2nd or 3rd year.
Add all of this up and it doesn't really seem to matter all that much. In contrast, RR for instance had whole years where we took 1-2 OL or DT or signed 6 slot receivers etc. Eventually, it caught up with us. Look at the players Hoke has brought in just the last 2.5 classes. If you stack them up, it's a solid 2-3 deep just off 2.5 classes with every position covered. Huge difference.
|48 weeks 6 days ago||Two points:||
1) How does losing a player that was 2nd on the depth chart not affect the 2-deep? (Robinson battled Wilson for the other starting safety spot the entire spring).
2) Why does everybody get so butt hurt by redshirts being burned for safeties/corners/linebackers etc? Does it really matter that much outside of the quarterback position? When you're recruiting and developing talent like we have the past few years, I guarantee 99% of these burnt red-shirts will have no effect on anything. Half the players will not be starters by the end of their careers (like Marvin Robinson), some of the rest will be stars and will potentially be ready to leave for the NFL after 4 years regardless of redshirting or not, and those players who you kinda wish had another year will probably just be replaced with a high 4-star/5 star player who everybody is eager to get on the field anyway.
It's really not a big deal unless some crazy injury bug or attrition hits one position and you wish that one guy was still around, and even when that happens, there is no way anybody could have accounted for that happening when the decision is first made, so why have a mental breakdown based on hindsight?
|51 weeks 3 days ago||I would definitely go for it||
I would definitely go for it on 4th down before I punted...
|1 year 15 weeks ago||The reason that he will||
The reason that he will likely not pick Michigan is because we actually may be having a problem getting him an early enrollee spot. I know this sounds dumb, but this was supposedly the issue with Arnett last year too.
Also, I'm not just totally pulling this out of my arse. This was my first thought after reading something Sam Webb put out on Scout, mainly that there was a non-shady something to work out kinda thing that was looking hard to work out, hence making Michigan almost a non-factor if this something working out doesn't get worked out. Only one other poster directly asked Webb if this was along the lines of the problem, yet among several dumb responses he totally ignored to add anything to this question. This seems more than likely then, and likely also eliminates USC as they recently lost a commit to not being able to take another early enrollee (and they only just recently realized this, so this happening to McQuay wouldn't be so hard to believe).
Of course, people like myself wonder why seniors that aren't playing anymore count toward your numbers in some bizarre way around early enrolling time. Well, at least I think this is the case, based on comments made last year as mentioned above. Who knows, but this is a VERY likely reason, and Webb said this same reason may have eliminated other schools...
|1 year 17 weeks ago||Is there a shred of evidence||
Is there a shred of evidence that Derrick Green actually plans to enroll early? I read this on a daily basis, yet all information points to this not being true. For instance, a recent mention of Green's recruitment said that his coach expected him to make his decision on signing day. That's not something an early enrollee does. I also have never read a reference from a pay-site mod discussing how his early enrollee status affects his recruitment, yet I see such articles in reference to McQuay often. I just get the feeling that this is not accurate information at this point in time. Please somebody correct me if I'm missing an unambigious quote from Green himself confirming that this will happen.
|1 year 18 weeks ago||I looked up if that 40 time||
I looked up if that 40 time was from the opening and I became even more convinced that this guy really does have elite speed. He finished 4th in the 40 at the entire event, an event featuring probably the best collection of talent of any camp/combine this year.
It's amazing that we're about to go from over a decade of generally unathletic safeties (except for Stevie Brown, but that didn't work out as planned) to having two of the fastest guys at the position in the country. Dymonte Thomas has reported run hand-timed 4.3s this off-season, so it's probably pretty safe to assume he's also a sub 4.5 guy if timed electronically (I also have seen stories mentioning that he ran an NFL combine-style electronically timed 4.57 when he was only a sophomore, so even more reason to believe so). This isn't even mentioning that Wilson isn't a slouch speed-wise either.
|1 year 18 weeks ago||Shouldn't his 40 time have 0||
Shouldn't his 40 time have 0 FAKES out of 5?
He got that 4.44 time from the Opening, where they used actual NFL combine style timing methods to my knowledge (I apologize ahead of time if I'm wrong on this). I mean, if a guy getting timed with an electronically controlled finish line can't get 0 FAKES, who can?
|1 year 25 weeks ago||A ten year war is not a||
A ten year war is not a concept Urban Meyer could understand. He maxes out at 5 years a coaching stop.
Seriously though, with all his "rules" and the pressure at OSU I can see him flaming out in no time. It actually kinda pisses me off that he's 8-0 just because their schedule is an absolute joke. If we played their schedule we'd be 8-0 as well, and if they played ours they'd be lucky to be 5-2 right now I'd guess. Their defense would have been a mess against Air Force, and their offense has been absolutely terrible for long stretches of games this season. They needed a miracle to beat Purdue at home, and we beat them by 31 on the road. Anyway, rant over, I'm just sick of OSU fans thinking their team is any good after near losses to Purdue, Indiana, California, and MSU already.
|1 year 26 weeks ago||I do actually agree with you||
I do actually agree with you for the most part, and as I stated, I have learned to not take this crap too seriously anymore. The fact that others feel the need to call kids names on twitter is sad, but unfortunately predictable.
He has a twitter handle that I'm assuming has thousands of followers (I don't use twitter) who were mostly Michigan fans. He didn't have to give them access to his twitter feed. He chose to, and he abused it by being pretty immature with the whole medium. These same people were great when he was a Michigan commit because they reacted to everything he did and he got attention. If he couldn't handle the obvious backlash coming, maybe he should have deleted the account. He doesn't need it. I'm positive he could create a new one and follow/get followed by his actual friends without incident. Instead, he sat around and argued with the people. It's like politics, expect to get some hate.
|1 year 26 weeks ago||I'm sorry, but the endless||
I'm sorry, but the endless defenses of Dawson because he's 17 or went through a rough death in the family just don't do it for me at all. After years of following recruiting, I have learned to only get upset about a few things. For instance, Laquon Treadwell does not upset me because all he is doing is making an informed decision. He's never said or done anything disrespectful or purposely misleading of which I am aware.
Dawson, on the other hand, has routinely shown his immaturity throughout the process at the expense of the Michigan fans. Shane Morris, who apparently considers(ed) him a friend, referred to his act as "annoying" in an interview. When other 17 year olds can see it, and go so far as to point it out to a national audience, maybe us grown men can finally accept it as true. He has started multiple twitter frenzies for no other reason than to see the (over)reaction of fans. He has reaffirmed his commitment multiple times to only start another rumor that he's leaving. He has claimed that he only wanted to attend a prestigous camp in Florida, yet now he suddenly wants to commit to that same school. He has potentially hurt our OL class by stringing this whole drama out to a point where few viable options remain when he seemed destined to switch all along.
He has shown zero respect to Michigan or its fans, yet you all feel inclined to defend him because he is young and Michigan fans were nasty to him on Twitter. Well, I think a case can be made that he should have expected some Twitter backlash because the majority of the time he has been committed all he has done is try to incite debate on twitter. I doubt he'd have received nearly as much backlash if it didn't appear so obvious that he has endlessly sought attention and intentional deceived people for months now. 17 or not, he should have expected it, and if he's upset, it's his fault and nobody elses.
|1 year 27 weeks ago||I was beginning to think||
I was beginning to think nobody else noticed. I came on here purely to comment that it wasn't a bubble at all. Don't worry, it isn't just you who didn't think it was a bubble, all of humanity should accordingly agree with you.
It's puzzling to me how it confused so often. I remember last year when Michigan fans were pondering the lack of bubbles an analyst on a pay site offered that they don't run it because the OL weren't very good at releasing and blocking downfield...to which I replied "your OL doesn't go anywhere, it blocks an inside zone to the other direction."
|1 year 27 weeks ago||You're confusing getting||
You're confusing getting caught from behind with getting tackled from behind. Yes, Denard has been tackled numerous times by a player who started behind him, but it's never because the guy gained any straight-line ground on him, it's always because Denard comes to a stop to make a big cut or starts to run laterally downfield. For instance, in the game yesterday, there were a few times where he was 20-30 yards downfield and tried to make huge lateral moves and he pretty much came to a stop, then when he started to accelerate again he got tripped up from behind by a guy already running that direction.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||To say that scholarship||
To say that scholarship reductions will have any effect on USC this season is likely not accurate. Their first reduced class was last season and they landed 16 recruits. If having 16 true freshmen on your squad affects the outcome of any of your games, then your team was already flawed.
Also, Michigan has something like 8-10 walkons on scholarship this season, yet nobody seems to blame depth for our woes. I guarantee USC doesn't have more than a couple walkons with scholarships, if ANY.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||So that's who was carrying||
So that's who was carrying the ball for us against Alabama.
We should have made him a WR...
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Did he say Hops, as in||
Did he say Hops, as in Hopkins?
Not that it matters, assuming this game goes as planned and all. We couldn't have had this game at a better time really.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||You sir, have made an||
You sir, have made an excellent first post. It made my entire visit to the site worth something. I mean, arguing over whether a guy's nickname is Poochie, Poochy, or Woody, or on the other hand arguing whether a back-up walk-on kicker at PSU leaving the team is news was not doing it for me.
On a similar note, the first I ever approached a player was at Rick's also. I saw Gabe Watson after a game and I had never seen a guy so wide in my life. For no good reason I walked up to him and put my hand out to shake his, saying "Good game!" Being that he was a NT and I had no idea if he really had a good game because that is not an easy position to judge at a game, I wasn't really sure if my statement was true. He shook my hand, but replied "It was? I thought I played like crap." I didn't know what to say, so I just walked away quickly as it is disconcerting to have a 350 lbs wall disagree with you.
|1 year 32 weeks ago||I looked at them, and my||
I looked at them, and my legal analysis would be that they would not qualify as "fair use" in the slightest. The title of the strip tells you the extent of the changes to 90% of them. Occasionally a word in a speech bubble has also been changed to dick or cock, but that's about it.
However, I have to admit that I have not laughed so hard in a long time. I mean, it is funny for no good reason whatsoever.
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Who cares about the||
Who cares about the competition, when his head coach coached at Auburn and is presumably saying he's every bit as good as Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown, I say yes please! (he didn't use those names directly, but I think that was what he was implying)
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Sorry, neg away, but the||
Sorry, neg away, but the Rawls jab is pretty dumb. You claim he has Shaw syndrome when he runs outside on a play designed to...run outside? Rawls had 6 freakin carries and he seriously did just about everything he could have on many of them. In no particular order, he 1) got hit immediately after being handed the ball behind the LOS and still bounced off to not lose yardage, 2) picked up a short yardage 1st down up the middle, 3) got facemasked on a horribly blocked outside run with nowhere to go, 4) bounced off a blocker, went outside, and picked up an improbable 4 yards, 5) put his head down and collided really hard with 2 defenders when he had no other option, and finally, 6) got drilled on an option play where he was destined to get drilled. I guarantee Ingram would have had no better success.
|1 year 32 weeks ago||You were able to determine||
You were able to determine this from 6 carries, most of which he was being hit almost immediately after being given the ball? Seriously? I hope the NFL scouts are checking out the site because you just revolutionized talent evaluation. Imagine the time you will save an NFL team by watching players for only 6 plays against the best defense in college football. I'm truly impressed.
|1 year 33 weeks ago||Aren't you just proving his||
(EDIT: I clicked to reply to Magnus above and there being little chance to fail) Aren't you just proving his point by implying that a lot of guys can do it without anybody ever noticing the difference?
I'll take heat for agreeing that offering a LS in our current situation doesn't make a ton of sense. Honestly, I really don't care that much and I'm not all that passionate about it, but when you consider the timing and the interest from top players it was a strange decision to say the least. We may end up not getting any of the borderline 5 star guys we're waiting on right now, but then again, we don't even technically have the ships for them as of this moment anyway.
The way I look at it is this: when's the last time we had a bad snap cost us a muffed punt, blocked punt, blocked kick, etc? I honestly can't remember, and I can say for a fact that none of the guys doing the snapping were given a scholarship up front (as opposed to walk-ons who earn them when openings are available like those Kovacs tweeted about today). If he ends up being the best LS in the country we'll see no noticeable difference on the field. If we get the number 1 WR, RB, or S, we likely will. Also, I know he probably snaps it a fraction of a second faster on punts and such, but if it doesn't get blocked, does that help us? It would seem the best punt coverage would come by punting the ball at the last possible instant to let the coverage get downfield. I just don't see it. Why not offer the best holder in the nation too? Again, I don't really care, but I just can't get behind hollow arguments, that's all.
|1 year 34 weeks ago||I hate to break it to you,||
I hate to break it to you, but the list you referenced clearly states across the top of it that it only includes players that played from 2000 until the present. There are tons of Michigan players with more tackles than Ezeh. I'm positive guys like Jarrett Irons and Ron Simpkins would blow him away without even trying (I'm too lazy to look it up).
If I had to guess why the list doesn't start until 2000, it would be because tackles were not always considered an "official" stat at many levels. Maybe this was the cut-off for college football as well.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||You got this from the word||
You got this from the word "precautionary?"
|1 year 35 weeks ago||This tournament has merely||
This tournament has merely confirmed my belief that Durant and Lebron are the two best players in the world, but Durant still has a ways to go to catch Lebron, and he might not ever do so. Durant is probably the best off the ball offensive player in the world, but he can't completely take over a game as a facilitator like Lebron can. There's nothing wrong with that, Durant has been incredible and will will win plenty of games and a couple titles I bet, but he'll just never be the passer or cerebral player Lebron is right now. If Lebron isn't shooting well he can still have a huge impact on the game whereas Durant would probably not be able to overcome a terrible shooting game. Regardless, they are easily the best in the world, and would be unbeatable if they ever played together in the NBA. It's crazy how many three pointers Lebron assisted Durant on in the tournament.
|1 year 36 weeks ago||Personally, I'm as little||
Personally, I'm as little puzzled as to why this post even mentions that in the way it does. It's seriously annoying reading endless posts where people put Schutt down based merely in the fact that Michigan asked him not to visit. This is like saying that Levenberry is a bad prospect because we just told him no. The reality is that as Pipkins committed something like 5 days after Michigan told Schutt not to come. They clearly expected Pipkins to commit. They likely assured him of how many such guys they were taking. The turning down of Schutt likely has way more to do with knowing Pipkins was about to commit than saying he sucks.I get extremely annoyed by people pretending this is why we backed away from him. I'm sure he's a decent player; he's probably just not as good as Pipkins.
|1 year 36 weeks ago||not a sexy topic, but worth noting||
I constantly read that Roh is undersized as an SDE. Other than being smaller than the guys that played it last year (who averaged roughly 6'5.5 and 290 lbs), Roh is not even remotely undersized. According to the Bill Parcels draft preview show, the average SDE on a 4-3 under style team is 6'4 and 279 lbs. Roh is 6'5 281. He's bigger than the average such player in the NFL. Not sure why this keeps being said.
|1 year 38 weeks ago||I'm sorry, I've seen you say||
I'm sorry, I've seen you say this before, but that is easily the dumbest thing I've read about this whole scandal so far.
I'm sure if somebody came up to you at your job tomorrow and said you had to pack up, move to another city, you'd have no assurances of meaningful employment there, and even if you did, you'd have 2 weeks to learn everything there before being forced to compete with others, you'd lose your accumulated pension or other similar benefits, you'd be unsure of the new benefits you'd get at this potential job, and you'd have to leave your friends and family, you'd say "No big deal guys! It's nothing more than inconvenient!"
Give me a break.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||If Gruden was coaching this||
If Gruden was coaching this thing, and Shane won the Heisman eventually, who would you give the credit to? The answer stays the same. So your argument is meaningless.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||Despite this news, Tom||
Despite this news, Tom Beaver, who I often wonder what in the world he is looking at, claimed that after today "He's not a natural runner...he's not going to gain yards with his feet as a Michigan quarterback."
Has Beaver ever watched Shane's highlight reel? He's no Denard, but he's at least a guy who can step up for a 5-10 yard gain now and then without an issue. He doesn't look stiff in the pocket whatsoever.
P.S. While I'm talking Mr. Beaver, has anybody else ever noticed how horrible he is at judging heights? He will be at an event where they officially measure the kids, yet he'll still give his own estimate and stand by it the rest of the kid's career. Jake Butt measured 6'6 and he kept saying he's maybe 6'4, not quite the tallest TE. He was the tallest one there I think. It's weird. That is all.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||Ummm, I'm going to give the||
Ummm, I'm going to give the credit to USC here. John Navarre was immobile all season. We gave up 15 sacks the entire regular season. We gave up 9 to USC. That tells me more about USC's defense than it does John Navarre's mobility.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||That's right, logical||
That's right, logical reasoning is in fact overrated on the internet.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||I'm sorry, I can't take many||
I'm sorry, I can't take many of these arguments in favor of giving them a one year ban/death penalty seriously. The arguments are terribly shortsighted and the analogies to other teams are totally pointless because the effects would be drastically different. Here are some of my reasons:
1. How in the world does suspending the football team send a message to anybody? Who would receive this message that hasn't already? You don't think public officials subject to reporting requirements across the country are already pretty damn aware of what might happen now? The scandal is referenced on every Michigan site I visit, every facebook newsfeed, millions of twitter account, and every news source. Is some administrator out there going to decide to turn somebody in because they are now afraid that their school might lose a season of football? NO! They would turn somebody in because otherwise they would go to "pound you in the ***" prison and have their entire name, family, reputation, and life ruined. I think that would motivate me a little more than not having a season of football.
2. The references to USC, OSU, and Michigan basketball are completely different for many reasons. First, let's talk about punishing the innocent. OSU, USC, and Michigan lost out on a season or two of hanging up a banner by not being able to compete in the post season. Big deal. It sucks and all, but what does that really mean in the grand scheme of things? USC and OSU are still pulling in great recruits, still playing and winning games, and their players are still playing for the school, team, and coach of their choice, and they still get a degree from the school of their choice and are still top NFL prospects regardless of what Reggie Bush or Terrell Pryor did.
Fast forward to PSU and them losing a season or getting a death penalty of indefinite duration. Let's look at the effects. The players would likely have to stay and give up their love of football or transfer. Staying would kill or severly damage any NFL prospects as they would not play for at least a year. Leaving would deprive them of credits (usually), knowledge of the scheme and technique they learned, comfort, likely proximity to home for many recruits, relationships with people at PSU whether friends or girlfriends, a good degree, choice of education, the major of choice (for some), and the list just goes on. Players that aren't established would likely have little to no chance to get an equal scholarship opportunity, many having to go to MAC or lower division schools. The harm to the players would be IMMENSE. It would serve no purpose. And what about the new coaching staff to boot? Some of these guys just came from other schools or the NFL for the chance to not have a job for something they literally had nothing to do with at all? That makes sense. Did Tressel get fired for his role? Yes, but he was the cause. Same for a guy like Fisher. This would be similar to Tommy Amaker getting fired because a penalty was handed out 10 years later.
3. Lastly, stop trying to say tattoos and houses didn't effect the play on the field any more than covering up a 15 year old non-football player related scandal. That's just silly. For starters, the coaches at those schools would have (and likely did) cover up evidence of these things to keep their best players eligible (Pryor being the perfect example). This won games. The promise of these extra benefits brought in players. This won games. The argument that revealing a sex scandal helped recruiting doesn't hold much water when the new coach has already recruited a top 10-15ish class thus far. Even if it did matter, we're comparing affirmative acts relating to actual players (like giving out money) to omissions relating to a former coach and non-players. Not even remotely similar.
P.S. About SMU. Did players get punished there for the acts of others? Yes. But let's be honest -- the players, coaches, fans, and even opposing fans ALL KNEW what was going on there. It was plain as day. It's not like their recruits were shocked it happened. Even those guys who didn't receive benefits would be idiots to not know it. How could a PSU player have known this or had any responsibility for this in any possible way? They wouldn't.
|1 year 40 weeks ago||Yeah, before the competition||
Yeah, before the competition even started lots of analysts said that Shane had one of the least impressive offensive line-ups there, if not the worst. The TE dominates day one and was then totally ineffective (not his fault - due to double teams) the second day.
|1 year 40 weeks ago||Ummmmmm.... Am I the only one||
Am I the only one who thought Tom's statement was referring to allegations that Diamond wanted more than a full ride to Auburn? I've seen this alluded to numerous times by people more knowledgeable than myself. I know some fans get all upset when somebody brings this up, but the way he phrased it seemed to be about something a little more secretive than just comparing the two guys' timelines.
I mean, I don't see this as Diamond-like anyway. Diamond never really got anywhere near as close to committing as Treadwell is. He extended his recruitment past signing day. He ventured to every imagineable team across the country. Regardless of the benefits discussion, I don't see Treadwell as Diamond-like AT ALL.
|1 year 40 weeks ago||I don't really disagree with||
I don't really disagree with anything you're saying, but want to expand on the part about the superstars playing together.
I get really sick of reading about Jordan, Magic, Bird, etc. not needing to play with each other to be great. There are also many memes out there confirming this feeling from fans. What I feel like people miss today is that it's easy to remember those guys as the main reason their teams won, but I'm not so sure that argument holds much water. Magic played with 2-4 other HOF players on his team AT ALL TIMES (Usually Worthy and Jabar), Bird played with so many HOF players in his career it's criminal (Tiny Archibald, Dennis Johnson, McHale, Walton, Parrish, Dave Cowens, Pete Maravich, Artis Gilmore), with 3-4 of them on the team most years they won anything, and then you have Jordan who played with Pippen, then Pippen and Rodman. I'm inclined to think Jordan had it the toughest, but I feel less bad for him when I realize his team without him won 55 games and finished 2nd in the Eastern Conference the year after he first retired (On the contrary, the Cavs had the #1 pick the year after Lebron first played in Miami). Secondly, all of these guys won a championship before their first contracts had run out. There was never any incentive for them to leave their teams; they came into great situations with great GMs and never had to fight for a decent roster. Putting them on some pedastal above Lebron and Wade is silly to me. Lebron would never win in Cleveland because nobody wants to play in Cleveland, and this was confirmed by their misses in free agency year after year. Then people love Durant and Westbrook for being drafted to the same team, but what in the world does that have to do with them? I just don't get it.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||Seriously, why is everybody||
Seriously, why is everybody jumping to his defense here? Did I click on the wrong link? Sounds like he was being a total jackass. If this was an Ohio player you'd all be talking about how terrible this was. Is this a big deal? No. did he maybe deserve to be arrested? Yes.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||Scout has video of the 4.68||
Scout has video of the 4.68 40 and it looks like Lewis used improper technique on his start, leading to the poor time. The video has another kid walking in front of him as he begins, but it still looks clear that he kinda does a bob with his body and arm before starting forward. This kills your time because typically these electronic times are still started by a person - it's the finish line that eliminates the human factor of anticipatory crossing. In other word, he wasted a couple tenths of a second at the start line by not moving forward immediately, and the person timing it still has to hit the start time when they see any form of movement. This is supposedly exactly what Manningham did at the combine, which showed people that he didn't even take the time to learn the customary technique. For a high school junior, you get a free pass.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||The Lewis time is the only||
The Lewis time is the only real surprise, but I feel like it's more of an outlier than a true test of his speed, much like Mario Manningham ran a 4.58 at the combine only to then run something like a 4.38 at Michigan's pro day. Some guys slip, some guys tighten up, some guys (like Manningham) use terrible form and don't practice the drills; it doesn't mean much at this point. Regardless, Lewis supposedly was singled out by several analysts as one of the best players in the 1-on-1s, breaking up as many passes as anybody. Dude looks incredibly fast in coverage too, so I'm not wasting 2 seconds worrying about one bad 40 time.
If all of these guys were to post these times at the NFL combine, I'd be more concerned. Guys can literally cut several tenths of a second from many of these drills just by learning a method and the right steps to take. A few U-M recruits said they weren't really even aware they'd have to do the combine. 5.5s from high school OL is normal. Taco's time is actually pretty decent IMO, and he will likely improve on it in college. I'm excited that he's already 6'6 249. He'll likely be close to his ideal size by the start of his career.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||I did hear it here first, and||
I did hear it here first, and I undoubtedly approve. I feel this will catch on rather quickly.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||Luck or not, I'm even more||
Luck or not, I'm even more opposed to the concept that many believe that it ensures that we will get way less this season. I mean, the two things are completely unrelated in my opinion. We barely had any interceptions last year, but a bunch of fumble recoveries. Maybe we get more interceptions with an experienced secondary and less lucky the guy just dropped the ball fumbles. Maybe more guys mysteriously drop the football. Who knows. Trying to predict random occurrences seems pointless either way.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||By this logic we also should||
By this logic we also should have kicked Magic Johnson off the team because he played with 2-3 HOF players on his roster pretty much his entire career. Let's go back and cut all of his numbers in half just because it's convenient for the current point being made. Yeah, that seems about right.
Regardless, I fail to see why people are arguing this so vehemently just because a documentary came out. Nobody was entitled to be on the team. It's not like some statistical formula was applied to the players that got chosen. If a guy didn't get picked, he didn't get picked. Like it would have mattered anyway. You could have sent the anybody from the top 50 players in the league and they would have routed everybody. If Isaiah wanted to go, maybe he shouldn't have upset so many people during his career.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||I'm sorry, I disagree||
I'm sorry, I disagree strongly with many of the posts on here because it seems clear that many of the people posting didn't actually see all of the referenced pay information from multiple sites. Without seeing the whole picture, this is slightly unfair.
Let me start off by saying I am no Scout supporter by any means. Many things that go on over there rub me the wrong way.
Anyway, without getting into super secret pay info (seriously? I'm shaking my own head as I write this), every site involved handled the situation fine and made some judgment calls. First of all, this isn't just random speculation from the sites, there really was some apprehension from a recruit. Rivals reported this first, but didn't name names, and just said if you hear something about this don't worry about it, it was resolved. Then I can only assume this led to even more speculation despite the report that everything was fine. Subscription buying headline or not, Scout decided to name names and smooth everything over. They added a little more to the story, but also cautioned that it was just yet another misunderstanding in this overexposed era of internet recruiting.
If you want to question putting the story as a front page link, that's fine, But acting like this was just manufactured news akin to saying "Is Shane Morris wavering? Look inside...No! He's as solid as ever and moreso!" is not accurate. This incident seems to have actually happened. Regardless, everything was smoothed over, so relax.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Typical Tom Beaver||
All of a sudden the Beav is claiming that there is NOT a decision time set, and that anybody claiming there is is grasping for straws and possibly ruining Michigan's chances by severly pissing off the family.
In my experience with the Beav, this reads more like: my site didn't break the story, so we're gonna sling mud at the sites that did. I like that site for the information, but his whole attitude drives me crazy. He constantly accuses other sites of trying to drum up views, then he goes and goes the same thing twice over. Here's hoping this is just another Beaver temper tantrum.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||I also did not realize that||
I also did not realize that photographic knowledge of international soccer stars was a prerequisite to not getting down voted on a Michigan sports blog. Who knew it was such common knowledge? So common that others are actually dumbfounded that people don't see the error.
The only thing more dumbfounding is why anybody would assume that the error in this picture is common knowledge to a bunch of people who clicked on a story for American football discussion...
|1 year 49 weeks ago||I tend to disagree with the||
I tend to disagree with the assertion that neither side can argue that somebody is a bad judge of talent. While it may be totally unrelated to pure "talent," it is at least worth noting that when Urban finally got a team of all players he recruited they were kind of crappy. Again, as prefaced, this could be for a variety of reasons, but several recruiting analysts have said something in the past along the lines of "Urban has a rep of star gazing, and he tires of recruiting quickly." These same analysts imply that he has recruited off lists as much as evaluation. Is this true? Who knows. But it's not totally crazy, and it seems to get mentioned often by people in the know.
|1 year 50 weeks ago||Totally disagree. Chances are||
Totally disagree. Chances are the 8th ranked team will have played a somewhat similar schedule and have a somewhat similar record, or have played a crap schedule with a better record (Boise St.). For instance, I can see a 10-2 Michigan being 8th while a 10-2 Alabama would be as high as 4th. Then, if the 8th ranked team ends up winning it all, it'll mean that they had to beat 3 top 8 teams. In other words, is a team that can beat 3 top 8 teams straight really 8th best? Let them decide it on the field.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||I'm kind of amazed nobody||
mentioned the fact that Urban tried to flip Kalis, and has since offered two of the "massive slow" players we have committed (LTT and Fox). It's also probably more than probable he would have offered some of the others, including Kugler and Bosch.
I wish the internet was more adversarial, as in, this blog competed with other blogs. As it stands, we have to settle for just complaining in a near vacuum. It'd be more fun to see the responses to the rational arguments on here.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||Well, although I will not||
Well, although I will not deny that a few of the guys RR recruited have worked out, I have a much harder time understanding why he would allow us to take 1 OL (Pace, who is now an injury casualty) in a class, then follow it up with what was looking like maybe 3 more the next year. That's terrible, and it's why our OL will be young and lack depth for the next 3 years or so.
|2 years 4 weeks ago||The numerous scouting||
The numerous scouting services that have tried to address this very question have kind of just said it's too early to even know for sure that any of them are really Michigan caliber prospects, but I'm willing to bet at least one of them makes it to that level.
In other words, nobody knows.
|2 years 4 weeks ago||Brand is a poor example||
I think that Brand is a poor example because looking at a player's listed height and weight alone is a huge mistake in trying to say they play the same type of game. For starters, Sullinger seems to be 6'9 going on 6'7 the way he plays due to his limited vertical, release point, and tendency to lean into defenders when he shoots the ball. That and the fact that I suspect he will not truly be 6'9 when officially measured.
Secondly, and far more importantly, is the reach of the players being compared. At the NBA "combine" Brand was measured at 6'9.5" in shoes, with a 7'5.5" wingspan, bringing him to an unusually impressive standing reach of 9'2". For comparison to players who more closely resemble Brand's reach here are some players within an inch in standing reach of Brand that seem totally unlike Sullinger: Tyson Chandler, Lamarcus Aldridge, Andrew Bogut, Chris Bosh, Eddy Curry, Channing Frye, and even Kevin Durant.
Brand's reach was such an outlier he had the reach of many players 6'11 or even 7'0 who have played center in their careers. Brand has even played some center, and done so quite well because of his reach and lower body size/strength. Another vast difference between Brand and Sullinger is that Sullinger averaged 1.0 bbg this year while Brand left Duke averaging 2.2 bbg, and has averaged as many as 2.5 bbg in the NBA for two different seasons. I'll be surprised if Sullinger ever averages 1.0 bbg in the NBA.
Considering the 20+ games of Sullinger I've seen, including probably 30+ shots of his being blocked in thoe games, I think he'll be nothing more than a bench player in the NBA who can score occassionally on the block against similar back-up players when they both sub in for 20 minutes a game, but he will never be anything more.
|2 years 5 weeks ago||Reading this interview||
made me proud to be a Michigan fan.
|2 years 5 weeks ago||I don't see what Craft had to do with anything||
Let me preface this by saying that Craft is definitely a very good defender. I have no issue with this concept whatsoever. However, having watched the game the other day, I have no idea what that has to do with Burke's poor game.
Burke was 1-11 shooting, but 7 of those were 3's. I can't remember any of them that were in any way, shape, or form affected by Craft's defense. In fact, many of them were flat out wide open looks that he missed. It's also not like Craft's defense keeping out on the perimeter forced all these shots - again, they were wide open good looks for Burke normally, who usually hits about 40% on the ones he took Saturday. I also remember him blowing by Craft for a few floaters and a lay-up that was blocked by Sullinger at the rim. Again, no idea where Craft factored into this. He also had 8 TOs, but again, I don't remember Craft picking his pocket left and right, I just remember a lot of throwing the ball to nobody type decisions. I fail to see what impact Craft had on Burke's bad game, a type of game he's had a few times this year against far worse competition. It was the team defense, not Craft, that caused problems.