"You can't make me," Hoke said. "You're not my father."
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- 122-40 overall (81-23 in the Big Ten)
- 1 national title
- 5 Big Ten titles
- 19-8 vs. top 10 opponents
- 6-7 vs. OSU
- 10-3 vs. MSU
- 5-4 vs. ND
- no serious NCAA violations
- 2002 - 10
- 2003 - 1
- 2004 - 3 (tied)
- 2005 - 10
- 2006 - 5 (tied)
- 2007 - 10
|18 hours 54 min ago||I agree, especially with (1).||
I agree, especially with (1). If I were a prospective AD, I'd be apprehensive about stepping into a situation with an interim coach, partly because it restricts my decision-making (basically forcing a choice ASAP) but mostly because it signals that someone in the university doesn't think that's the AD's call.
And as a bonus (4), if Hoke somehow manages to turn this season around despite the insane odds against it and obstacles to doing so, then the guy really should be the coach next season.
|20 hours 7 min ago||Teams cheat because it helps||
Teams cheat because it helps them win (illegitimately). That's the point. If it didn't help them win, they wouldn't cheat and risk the consequences. I have no idea whether Lloyd would have won any additional games if some of our opponents were as rule-abiding as we seemed to be (though I'm sure no one is perfectly clean).
Would Troy Smith have gone to OSU if those benefits weren't available, and would a Troy Smith-less OSU still have beaten Michigan in 2006? Who knows? But the point is that cheating - even if the rules are stupid - generally makes it easier for the teams that cheat to beat the teams that do not. That's why they do it.
|20 hours 27 min ago||Thanks for sharing that.||
Thanks for sharing that. It's an interesting story.
For what it's worth, I've also met Carr - and know someone who knows him quite well - and everything I've seen and heard suggests that he's a terrific person. As I said above, I'm not up to speed on the conspiracy theories, so I'm not qualified to say they aren't true, but my sense is that if Carr did things that seem bad for Michigan he probably at least did them with his heart in the right place.
|21 hours 30 min ago||The ND record is pretty||
The ND record is pretty hilarious in that context (though this year's game was less so).
|21 hours 56 min ago||I don't know much about the||
I don't know much about the conspiracy theories about what Carr did or didn't do after he left, so I won't touch those, but a lot of what people accuse Carr of now seems either inaccurate or cherry-picked. I've written this before and am pasting it here.
Results (13 seasons):
Recruiting - average Rivals star rating*:
*I'm using the average player rating from Rivals, whose rankings apparently only go back to 2002. I grabbed average player rank rather than the Rivals class rank, because the Rivals class rank rewards bigger classes for being bigger, which effectively punishes coaches for keeping players in their program.
|22 hours 9 min ago||That would be an insanely||
That would be an insanely risky hire. We have no idea if he can handle the spotlight of being a head coach at Michigan, something that has hurt us with our last two coaches. In fact, we have no idea if he could be a head coach, period, nor do we know how to allocate credit for MSU's defense across Narduzzi and Dantonio.
Narduzzi would be a terrific hire as Michigan's DC right now (not happening) and a horrible hire as its head coach (also not happening).
|23 hours 59 min ago||It wouldn't surprise me if a||
It wouldn't surprise me if a pipe dream guy or two would be willing to come, even if no one here is thinking about the guy right now. Rodriguez absolutely was that in 2007 and he wouldn't have appeared on anyone's list of possibilities until days before he was hired (nor would Mattison or Nussmeier appeared on anyone's list). Plus, WVU's 2007 season solidified his status as a pipe dream coach, so there's still time for candidates' profiles to change before a likely offseason hire.
In a post-DB world, this is a better job than some here are saying (lots of talent, excellent facilities and resources, no recent history of success, etc.), and there are probably a couple of A-level guys out there who are unhappy where they are, ready for a change, or curious about the Michigan job. At the end of the day, it just takes one of those guys to say yes.
|1 day 12 hours ago||I don't buy a single damn||
I don't buy a single damn word of that.
1. How the hell would Gregg Henson suddenly have a source so tied into the Board of Regents' thinking?
2. There's no way on earth that the Regents would fire Schlissel right now for this. That's especially ridiculous in the context of not wanting blood on their hands for Brandon.
3. Dave Brandon is the least popular person in Ann Arbor. The Regents are politicians. Brandon's blood on their hands is going to be good for a bunch of votes in the years ahead.
|1 day 19 hours ago||Also for the record, I'm||
Also for the record, I'm really not a hater and I rarely wish anyone the least bit of misfortune. And I'm taking personal pleasure in this. I appreciate the spirit of Kilgore's post and feelings; I just can't summon up that emotion in myself with this.
|1 day 19 hours ago||Does anyone know any - or||
Does anyone know any - or know where to find any - details on this? I've heard this rumor about Madej and Jon Falk but don't remember anything specific about them.
|1 day 20 hours ago||One of my favorite press||
One of my favorite press conference exchanges ever:
|1 day 23 hours ago||Seriously? He's the wrong||
Seriously? He's the wrong role model to cite for this particular issue.
|2 days 1 hour ago||I'm pretty sure the question||
I'm pretty sure the question was directed at the Brian Cook who the Pistons just signed (from the University of Illinois), but you should double-check with the OP about that.
|2 days 1 hour ago||It's so appropriate that||
It's so appropriate that Brandon released that statement at 1:30 AM.
Count me as one who believes that we have a great guy as our head coach who's not up to the (very difficult) job of coaching Michigan football; and we have a true fucking asshole as our AD who has done a terrible disservice to the long-term prospects of Michigan athletics in order to personally get credit for some short-term profits.
|2 days 2 hours ago||I don't think so. There are||
I don't think so. There are easy political points to be scored by canning DB right now. And these are politicians who want credit for that firing.
I think there's good news coming.
EDIT: I just read the article and have no idea how the OP is drawing his conclusions about this meeting.
|2 days 2 hours ago||Obviously, I'm not blaming||
Obviously, I'm not blaming Rodriguez for the Morris thing. (Is that really how you interpreted that?) My point is that people are turning this into something that it's not... an exceptional case in which coaches knowingly put a player in grave danger. What happened was awful, and it warrants hard questions with real answers, a commitment to improving that process going forward, and real frustration/concern from people who watched. In the context of what happens in college football regularly, though, and the actual circumstances of the Morris situation, this isn't what people are making it out to be.
I'm pissed, too, but it's so clear that the MGoBlog response to this would be different if we were 5-0 and serious national title contenders right now. The self-righteousness around this incident is starting to feel really disingenuous to me.
|2 days 2 hours ago||This is getting so stupid.||
This is getting so stupid. Maybe we should give every member of the offensive line a Congressional Medal of Honor for protecting Morris from this attempted murder by our coaches. On a play in which Morris took two steps back and handed the ball to an RB.
Leaving Morris in was stupid and reflective of a frustratingly regular incompetence we've seen from this staff. They didn't all of the sudden stop caring about their players, and let's not overstate the actual danger that Morris was in. Hell, you want to see actual danger and true disregard for player safety? Look at what our last coach did when his QB, Matt Scott, was concussed at the end of a close, big game. That's a fireable offense.
This has become a convenient place for fans angry about Michigan football to funnel their anger and display some self-righteous indignation. I want Hoke fired. I want him fired because I think there are better coaches out there and I no longer believe that he's going to turn this around. I'm frustrated by this incident and I think his staff did a terrible job of staying on top of what was going on here. At the same time, literally every past and present player I've ever heard talk about Hoke has talked about how much Hoke loves and protects his players. It's possible to be angry about what happened on Saturday, angry about the direction of the program, ready for new coaches... but still a little level-headed and fair.
|2 days 17 hours ago||Come on, do you really think||
Come on, do you really think that Hoke put Morris in because he doesn't care about Morris's health and well-being? Everything that we've ever heard from every player, past or present, has indicated that Hoke cares deeply about and protects his players. That incident stunk of incompetence to me, and Hoke should be fired for his continued incompetence. To give that incident an extremely uncharitable interpretation - and one inconsistent with everything else we know - is being unfair. I get that you're upset, and I am, too, but it's possible to be upset and level-headed at the same time.
|2 days 18 hours ago||My view on this is that||
My view on this is that there's no reason to want Michigan's football team to look like it did 10, 20, 30, 40, and 50 years ago. In fact, I don't want it to, since I think there are better paths to winning football games in 2014.
I do want the Michigan Stadium experience to feel a lot like it did 10, 20, 30, 40, and 50 years ago. I think that's part of what makes Michigan special. Getting that back doesn't require a "Michigan man," but it helps to have someone in the AD who understands why tradition is so important to us and what it's all about.
|2 days 18 hours ago||I'm working my way up to||
I'm working my way up to Hitler. I can't just start there like Gregg Henson's source did. I figure that I'll probably pass through Dahmer and Gaddafi along the way.
|2 days 18 hours ago||+1 To be clear, on balance,||
To be clear, on balance, would you be more happy or unhappy if you found out tonight that DB is being removed?
|2 days 18 hours ago||I said this earlier, but it||
See ya, DB!!!
|2 days 18 hours ago||I said this earlier, but it||
I said this earlier, but it feels relevant here.
Unless he's a Harbaugh, I don't want a "Michigan man" to be our next head coach. I think there are better candidates out there. With the AD, though, I think there's value in having someone who has been here before, understands the traditions, understands what a shitty job DB has done, is pissed about it himself, is willing to undo all of DB's stupid shit, and will twist the knife in DB's back while he's undoing DB's legacy. I think a message of "I'm so sorry about the last guy; we'll never treat you like that again" is the most direct way to winning back the loyalty and hearts of this fan base.
|2 days 19 hours ago||PREPARE THE MUPPETS I'll take||
PREPARE THE MUPPETS
I'll take whichever guy is less like Dave Brandon.
|2 days 19 hours ago||Sincere question:||
Is there anyone who thinks we should keep DB? I don't think I remember a single post from the past few days saying that we should hang on to him.
If you'll indulge me, could anyone who thinks we should keep DB please either respond to this post or neg it? I'm really curious about the numbers.
(Arguments for keeping him are obviously welcome, and I hope anyone who is willing to make such an unpopular case is treated respectfully.)
|2 days 19 hours ago||What's this feeling inside||
What's this feeling inside me? Happiness?
I honestly believe that DB is giving Schlissel an amazing welcome gift: an opportunity to cut ties with an immensely unpopular athletic director. This reminds me of this past summer when Adam Silver did the obvious thing by coming down hard on Donald Sterling (another public villain) and then was credited as being courageous and bold in his first days on the job.
Schlissel has an opportunity to define and endear himself to a big group of stakeholders right now just by doing a pretty damn obvious thing. Do it, Mark.
|2 days 19 hours ago||I honestly believe that DB is||
[Edit: This comment fits better in the "WE'RE POSSIBLY HIRING A NEW GUY" party thread above. I'm moving it there.]
|2 days 19 hours ago||What an asshole. Seriously.||
What an asshole. Seriously. If that's true, what an unaccountable, cowardly dick. Our coaches certainly aren't helping, but I'm convinced that this program's problems are rooted squarely in our AD's office.
|3 days 1 hour ago||I've seen these numbers||
I've seen these numbers before, but I haven't seen anything on DB's contract. Does anyone know anything?
|3 days 1 hour ago||It's a slippery slope. A||
It's a slippery slope. A penis today. Balls tomorrow. An asshole on Wednesday. Where does it stop?