here's one vote for "John Beilein's head in a Futurama jar"
|1 day 3 hours ago||I agree, partly because the||
I agree, partly because the next time a similar situation arises, the guy will figure it can't possibly be an ugly result since you didn't say anything. Then everything becomes a mess.
|2 days 8 hours ago||never has a t-shirt made my||
never has a t-shirt made my eyes roll so hard.
i like lebron, i'm glad he has a couple of championships to his name, and i hope he never wins another one.
|3 days 14 hours ago||I actually thought this||
I actually thought this sounded like Section 1. It reminded me of the Frank Beckmann appreciation thread a few months ago, which I thought had nauseating political undertones but on the surface seemed pretty positive and innocuous.
|3 days 14 hours ago||I'll represent the extreme||
I'll represent the extreme position, because it's what I believe. I think Dave Brandon, above all, wants what's best for Dave Brandon. Where that overlaps with what's best for Michigan, we're in luck. In general, I think he's willing to accrue severe long-term costs (for which his successors will get most of the blame) for fleeting, short-term benefits (for which he gets most of the credit). We all look out for ourselves to some extent, but I trust guys like Hoke and Beilein to consider Michigan's well-being even at the expense of their own interests far, far more than I trust Brandon to do the same.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Technically, yes, Hill was||
Technically, yes, Hill was traded, but really he agreed to terms with Orlando and the Pistons said, "Well, shit, do you want to give us a couple of bodies and we'll call it a trade?" That definitely wasn't a trade the Pistons wanted to make, though it ended up getting them Ben Wallace (and I think Chucky Atkins). I don't remember the A-Rod situations well enough to comment.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I disagree. It's hard to find||
I disagree. It's hard to find a fair comparison because he's local to Cleveland/Akron (and because of "The Decision"), but I can't think of any other fan base responding to a player leaving in remotely the same way. Lions fans certainly didn't when Barry Sanders walked away at a horribly inconvenient time (while arguably the NFL's best / highest profile player) and Pistons fans certainly didn't when the NBA's top young star, Grant Hill, left right before we all expected him to enter his prime. Orlando didn't when Shaq left, Seattle and Texas didn't when A-Rod left, and I can't think of a remotely comparable reaction.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||You should see the new||
You should see the new SportsCenter / SportsCenter set. Watching it makes me feel like I'm having a seizure on a spaceship with sports vaguely involved in the background.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I really like our Cleveland||
I really like our Cleveland fans here (including/especially you), so this isn't intended as a personal attack, but after the city of Cleveland's ridiculous reaction to LeBron leaving I'd rather not see them get him now. That reaction just seemed so nasty, childish, and over the top.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||There's probably a strong||
There's probably a strong case that this is the worst conference schedule in modern Big Ten history. Thanks, expansion.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Whoa, I love that clutter the||
Whoa, I love that clutter the brain quote. I don't know much about this guy, but I'm a fan so far.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||"dropped the ball"||
Your negativity strikes again. I guess OSU and MSU really dropped the ball when they didn't hire LaVall Jordan, right?
|4 weeks 5 hours ago||The kid changed his mind||
The kid changed his mind about a decision that means a whole lot more to his future than ours. Whatever. I hope he has a wonderful life and a terrible college football career.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||IMO, they got really close to||
IMO, they got really close to a cool, novel tradition but screwed up one detail. I like the patches as a way to honor past players while keeping numbers in circulation. I just don't like that they're a privilege to wear and guys earn them after starting with different numbers. Personally, I don't care if a true freshman gets #11 and I don't think it harms the program if the guy never becomes a great player or ideal citizen. I just don't like all the changing around of numbers, often with staff encouragement/inducement.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I'm not sure what would||
I'm not sure what would stress me out more, being president or being secret service to the president.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||If you want to feel even||
If you want to feel even worse, know that we almost got Luke Hancock - and kept him from Louisville - when he transferred from George Mason.
Then again, that run was awesome and this is the kind of sports pain that I welcome.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||OP, I think I'm too old or||
OP, I think I'm too old or dumb to understand your explanation of where you saw this. Any chance you could point us to the particular tweets/URLs you're looking at?
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Wow. Thanks. Everyone: read||
Everyone: read that article.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Where are you hearing this?||
Where are you hearing this?
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Actually, maybe this means||
Actually, maybe this means that we're living the same life but I'm 14 minutes ahead of you. Let me know if you have any questions about your near future.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||In addition to that guy not||
In addition to that guy not having much business telling recruits what to do, I think it's a bad point. Let's say that my favorite offers are Wisconsin and Northwestern but I'm waiting on Michigan because that's where I'd go if offered. Then why can't my final (or top) three be Wisconsin, Northwestern, and Michigan? Isn't that more honest than saying that my final/top two is Wisconsin and Northwestern if I'd then pick Michigan if offered?
|4 weeks 5 days ago||This occurred to me 14||
This occurred to me 14 minutes before it occurred to you (see above). I can report that if you respond like I do, you won't feel much better about it 14 minutes from now.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||It's hitting me that we're||
It's hitting me that we're about to hit the point in recruiting when kids were born in the 21st century. I'm not sure I can handle that. I still have my Y2K party hat in my bedroom.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||I'd ask Hoke||
I'd ask Hoke how he feels about the wow experience stuff. It'd probably put him in an awkward spot with Brandon there, but it's hard for me to believe that he's thrilled with all of the changes since his last stint at Michigan.
I'm interested in his (honest) answer partly because coaches who become very high-profile often become much more powerful than their ADs. If Hoke can strengthen his position and stick around, his voice on the game day experience could become the dominant one.
|5 weeks 5 hours ago||I don't know. Sam's a||
I don't know. Sam's a reliable source and that's a pretty specific explanation. I'm inclined to believe it.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I see some of that as||
I see some of that as people's wildly unrealistic expectations for underclassmen contributions. I think there's a group here that decides that guys are busts if they aren't major contributors in their first year or two on campus. I find that ridiculous. More often than not, the experienced 3-star is a much better option than the inexperienced 4-star.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Can you help me understand||
Can you help me understand the (or at least your) "star-gazing" critique? Is it:
|5 weeks 2 days ago||In fairness, the 247||
In fairness, the 247 composite rankings have Green as the #5 RB, Isaac as the #8 RB, and Smith as the #21 RB. Not sure where the "consensus #1" thing comes from.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||I don't know if you're||
I don't know if you're intentionally misrepresenting my point, misreading it, or misunderstanding it, but please point me where I said that "everyone takes time to develop" or no one has ever contributed as a freshman. Obviously exceptions exist, but many, many, many great college football players did not do much on the field as true freshmen.
I don't have any idea what "plan" you're talking about and I see that you're still unwilling to consider the possibility that maybe Isaac is transferring for reasons other than playing time (e.g., like the apparent fact that his mom can't come to see him).
Whatever, though, this conversation isn't going anywhere.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Yes, because it's||
Yes, because it's inconceivable that an 18-year-old who moves away from mom and dad for the first time (2000 miles away, in fact), into an entirely unfamiliar offense, set of pressures, community, etc., might require more than a few weeks to get acclimated. I'm sure that you, being PurpleStuff, are perfectly able to project how a guy will perform over his 4-5 years in college based on his first few months. Are you also one of the guys around here who thinks that guys like Kalis, Magnuson, Bosch, and Kugler were total busts in college?
Plus, isn't it just a little bit possible that the fact that his mom apparently can't fly to see him - to visit, to watch his games, etc. - might have something to do with his transfer? Or that he was uncomfortable there in ways that might not reflect how he'll perform as a Michigan running back?
Again, though, don't let that stop you from making the most uncharitable, dickish interpretation possible, as you often seem to do.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||He was also a true freshman||
He was also a true freshman getting acclimated to an entirely unfamiliar offense... not to mention in his first semester of college all the way on the other side of the country.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Fire Bower. The guy has||
Fire Bower. The guy has done nothing notable since Detroit hired him today.
(Sorry, nothing against the hire... just want to be the very first person to call for his firing.)
|5 weeks 4 days ago||i think someone at adidas||
i think someone at adidas accidentally hit the bold button on those women's uniforms.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||And sitting would be fine for||
And sitting would be fine for Michigan, I'd imagine. It would make him the de facto RB in the 2014 class (when we went after guys like Ballage but didn't sign anyone). He'd likely be the only RB with sophomore eligibility in 2015.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Then I'd recommend that you||
Then I'd recommend that you get your information from newspapers rather than message boards.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||and this is AMERICA so #1 in||
and this is AMERICA so #1 in the world
|5 weeks 6 days ago||I don't think anyone is||
I don't think anyone is arguing that the only thing that determines success is the talent of a team's incoming players. I've been trying to stress that talent doesn't guarantee anything. All else equal, though, having more talented players is extremely helpful in building a contender. Arguments to the contrary rely on exceptions rather than rules. (And even your particular exceptions aren't very convincing -- Boise State and TCU have been out-recruiting their competition, Stanford is recruiting at a high level, etc.)
Coaching obviously matters. I've never disagreed with that. Player talent obviously matters, too, which is my point. The "stars don't matter" crowd doesn't seem to accept the idea that getting highly talented prospects is a big help.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Okay, let me add two schools||
Okay, let me add two schools to my list. Ohio State was #11 and Florida was #12.
Those 12 schools have combined to win all 12 of the national championships since 2002. Talent matters. It doesn't guarantee anything, but there's no reasonable argument that talent doesn't matter.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Here are the top 10||
Here are the top 10 recruiting classes from 2011 according to Rivals (guys who will be seniors this season): Alabama, Florida State, Texas, USC, Georgia, LSU, Auburn, Clemson, Oregon, Notre Dame
Here are the bottom 10: UMass, Miami OH, EMU, Army, Buffalo, UTEP, Florida Atlantic, Ball State, Louisiana-Monroe, Troy
How about I take the top 10, you take the bottom 10, and then we compare which teams were better at the end of the season?
You're right that getting elite talent doesn't guarantee success, but it sure makes it easier to get there. I admit those top 10 teams also have better coaches, facilities, etc., but the big, obvious difference is player talent.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Based on what you wrote here,||
Based on what you wrote here, I hope you start posting more often. This is exactly right and very well said.
Still, I'm not sure I buy this story yet. What's the source exactly?
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Seriously, it's time to||
Seriously, it's time to explain to these kids' parents what happened at Florida, chemistry-wise, what's up with Meyer's "circle of trust," and how many incidents Meyer's players have been involved in at Florida and OSU.
The response to that kind of thing is always, "Yeah, well Michigan's not perfect either." Fine - no program is - but Meyer sure has had a lot of ugly, ugly shit happen with the players he's recruited and coached. As a parent, there's no doubt in my mind about which staff and team I'd trust to take care of my kid.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Please. The obvious||
Please. The obvious comparison for the transparency of the Gibbons incident is the Payne/Appling incident, which MSU swept under the rug long enough for those guys to get through the tournament and graduate.
Plus, Michigan has been way more transparent with Gibbons than MSU has with Bullough.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||In my opinion, the likely||
In my opinion, the likely (positive) resolution to all of this comes after the 2015 season. If Michigan can pull off a 9-3 type 2014 - i.e., something good enough to buy another year among all but the most extreme skeptics - 2015 is structured to be a very good season. The schedule is favorable, with our only road games against Utah, Maryland, Minnesota, Indiana, and Penn State. We'll also return a ton of (very talented) guys in 2015 on both offense and defense who, between them, will have an incredible amount of playing experience.
If we get good QB play in 2015 - and aren't in the middle of another disruptive, messy coaching change - I think we're in good shape for an excellent record.
My hopes for 2014 are basically just that it gets Hoke & co. to 2015 and brings some more positive offseason feelings than we're getting right now.
|6 weeks 23 hours ago||Yeah, he really needs to work||
Yeah, he really needs to work on that.
|6 weeks 23 hours ago||Yup. Whether it's after||
Yup. Whether it's after turnovers, on kick/punt returns, or on offense, it's hard to watch Peppers and not think, "Damn, that kid needs to touch the ball."
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Think about yourself in that||
Think about yourself in that position.
You just put in four years at a school, did everything you were asked with respect to getting a degree (the supposed first priority for scholar-athletes), have one year of college eligibility left to enjoy your sport / advance your professional prospects, and believe that another school offers a much better opportunity.
Why should you have to sit on your hands for a year? If you're a professional-level athlete, you're losing one of the few years in which you could earn income as a player. If you're not a professional-level athlete, you might decide that it's not worth staying in school if you have to wait for a year (though what you really want to do is go somewhere and play).
In general, I think it's ridiculous how restricted a kid gets when he signs to play for a school. At the very least, those restrictions should fade away once the kid gets his degree.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Wow. That seems like a||
Wow. That seems like a strange thing for a university president to weigh in on, a very questionable position to take, and a pretty dick move to call out Horford by name like that.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Interesting. I just took it||
Interesting. I just took it to mean that I've been eating my cow shit all wrong, but you're probably right.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Another perspective||
Sterling was stupid rich before and had the Clippers. Now he'll be stupid rich and not have the Clippers.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||My hunch, which isn't very||
My hunch, which isn't very charitable, is that DB thinks primarily about DB and figures that short-term benefits that bring long-term costs are generally good for him (his job security, legacy, etc.). I think a lot of the damage he's doing is really going to burn the next ADs more than it'll ever burn Brandon.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||I have no interest in either.||
I have no interest in either. As AD, Mark Hollis behaves like a PR guy for a gimmicky minor league baseball team. As AD, Dave Brandon behaves like the shitty CEO of a shitty pizza company.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Not saying I disagree, but||
Not saying I disagree, but does that make your post bitching about the bitching about DB bitching?
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Damn, she looks a lot like||
Damn, she looks a lot like her brother. I mean, you know, better, but enough like him that for the first time I'm wondering whether I have a "looks too much like Drew Dileo for me" criterion. Thinking that I don't.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||I don't think I remember a||
I don't think I remember a Michigan player whose impact was harder to judge than Lewan's. After he got his penalty problem in check, he was a terrific LT but on some horrific lines. Parts of his personality were endearing and awesome. Other parts were maddening and (probably) destructive.
I honestly have no idea how last season would have differed if Lewan had entered the 2013 draft. With almost every other player I can make an educated guess, but I think it's really hard to say with him.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Do I need to reassess my||
Do I need to reassess my priorities if the fact that he punched an OSU fan (and an OSU fan on that day) - rather than any other person on earth - makes this a little less troubling to me?
I feel like sports rivalries give people who try not to be prejudiced a weird opportunity to make an exception.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Drew Henson. And I'd imagine||
Drew Henson. And I'd imagine that at least part of him feels the same.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||We're in pet peeve territory,||
We're in pet peeve territory, but that's a ridiculous calculation. So that's the probability of the Cavs getting the #1 pick in 2011, 2013, and 2014. That's a really arbitrary thing to test.
Why not report the probability of the Cavs getting three #1 picks in four years (instead of those three particular years)? Why focus only on the Cavs -- not on the probability that any team would get the #1 pick three times in four years at least once over the history of the NBA Draft lottery? Why not note all of the things that didn't happen (e.g., no high-profile teams except the Bulls winning the lottery this century)?
People spin numbers like this into conspiracy theories, but I think a lot of that is just playing misleading games with probabilities.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Why would the NBA so||
Why would the NBA so obsessively want Cleveland to get better that they'd throw them one #1 pick after the next? If Boston had one, people would claim conspiracy. If the Lakers had won, people would claim conspiracy. If New York had won, people would claim conspiracy.
The recent winners (since 2000) aren't exactly a who's who of teams that the NBA should want to stack to improve its ratings:
New Jersey, Washington, Houston, Cleveland, Orlando, Milwaukee, Toronto, Portland, Chicago, LA Clippers, Washington, LA Clippers, New Orleans, Cleveland, Cleveland
Sometimes probability just works out in funny ways, like it did here with Cleveland.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||You realize that 99% of the||
You realize that 99% of the way that college football teams improve from one season to the next is through the same guys getting a year older and better, right? Contributions from true freshmen are usually pretty modest (plus, we might get something from Peppers, Canteen, etc.), and as for key guys returning from injury, we actually have more than most teams do (Ryan & Darboh).
I'm not convinced that our roster is a ton better than it was last year, but that's because of personnel losses on offense (basically Lewan, Schofield, and Gallon). Still, I think we're definitely a more talented and experienced team in 2014 than we were in 2013, thanks largely to that year of progression. Especially on defense, we return a lot of dudes, and returning a lot of dudes is a big thing in college football.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Congrats to Ash. He grabbed||
Congrats to Ash. He grabbed his Michigan degree a couple of weeks ago and now he gets to keep playing the sport he loves for at least one more season. Life could be worse.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||I disagreed with you at the||
I disagreed with you at the beginning of your post and agreed with you by the end of it. Good post.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||That's hard for me to make||
That's hard for me to make sense of in college basketball recruiting. I believe you, but does that mean we're talking about 1 year of Brunson versus 2-4 years of Davis? If that's the case, again, I'm totally fine with either guy.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||This. My first thought was||
This. My first thought was to ask to please retitle the thread, "Brian Kelly Wants People to Stop Thinking of Him as a Chicken-Shit Asshole."
|8 weeks 2 days ago||If this is our staff's way of||
If this is our staff's way of saying, "Hey, MSU, you have one of Brunson/Davis and we'll gladly take the other," then that sounds good to me.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Coleman is looking less||
Coleman is looking less likely? What did I miss?
|8 weeks 2 days ago||upvoted for clear, elegant||
upvoted for clear, elegant prose
|8 weeks 3 days ago||What a lazy article. If||
What a lazy article. If you're going to run with that, get some kind of follow up comment from Pat White to make sure he was serious, do more than look at a Rivals page to see if he had an Alabama offer, etc. The whole thing is based on a Facebook comment and decade-old rivals.com page.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Isn't he around that number||
Isn't he around that number for pro-style QBs? Maybe that puts him around #20 overall for QBs? Again, I love him as a prospect, but I'd imagine that most Michigan QBs are ranked higher than that.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Related question for you.||
Related question for you. With this "things balance out" possibility, do you think if you literally signed up to get kicked in the nuts every day, then our football team would be good again? The universe might not tolerate that much nut-kicking.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||question about Malzone||
I really like what I've heard about Malzone. Is it reasonable to think that the criticisms that keep him from being a top, top prospect - that he's 6'3" and not 6'6"; that his arm strength is very good but not great - are the kinds of issues that keep a guy from being a top NFL prospect, not the kinds of issues that keep a guy from being a great college QB? If that's why he's rated where he is, it's totally fine with me.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||It'd be great to get Kirkland||
It'd be great to get Kirkland here. It seems like we've been getting highly rated DBs lately with more under-the-radar LBs. Kirkland is the composite #5 ILB in his class with offers from Texas, Oklahoma, Oregon, and a bunch of other top programs.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Yeah, I saw someone today||
Yeah, I saw someone today write that he was shocked how well Stauskas did in the ball-handling drills at the draft combine. My first thought was, "Well, maybe you should spend more time on YouTube."
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Cleveland sports franchises||
Cleveland sports franchises are really making themselves likable these days. Maybe the Indians can sign A-Rod to go with Manziel and Calipari?
|8 weeks 3 days ago||I haven't seen this show, but||
I haven't seen this show, but I think the media make a lot of people believe that professional athletes are a bunch of entitled, hot-headed criminals, since those guys are the ones who make headlines. In the vast majority of cases, though, I really don't think that's accurate. I don't know many professional athletes, but the few I've gotten to know a bit all seem like really pleasant, genuine people.
I'm a sucker for the shows that humanize athletes (like this show, apparently, and BTN's The Journey) and I think they do us a service.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||If I'm reading the NBA's||
If I'm reading the NBA's collective bargaining agreement correctly, he'd first be eligible for the NBA Draft in 2016 (since he'll turn 19 in that calendar year). So I guess if he comes to the States for college basketball this season, there's a good chance that someone gets him for at least two years. Damn. Do want.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Do we know the other two||
Do we know the other two favorites?
|8 weeks 4 days ago||That's not what I'm saying.||
That's not what I'm saying. And sorry to call your paragraph stupid -- it just felt like you were accusing me of something not close to true. If these guys had come up with the exact opposite result, I'd likely have urged the same caution.
One more example of the challenge for non-RCTs here. Getting concussions in football is likely correlated with loads of other dangerous behaviors (as well as different body types, dispositions, etc.), even compared to other football players. I'm just guessing, but I could see the number of concussions guys get being correlated with things like recreational drug and alcohol use, steroid use, body size, time spent in other very physical sports, etc. The first thing I look for is whether I think the researchers did a reasonably good job of controlling for those types of differences. That's all I'm getting at, but I think it's the key question to what to think about any of these studies (or of the whole body of research, if no one seems to be doing this reasonably well).
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Your second paragraph is||
Your second paragraph is stupid, since I have no agenda here, but I should just shut up, get to my laptop, and read the damn thing.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Again, it could be a great||
Again, it could be a great study (annoyingly, I haven't looked at it myself), but even little issues and oversights can badly undermine a study's findings.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||I need to read this article||
I need to read this article later to see what it's really saying, but before people over-interpret the headline finding, note this paragraph from the summary:
|8 weeks 5 days ago||I got disqualified by one of||
I got disqualified by one of the medical guidelines, unfortunately, but it did seem like an easy process and a more than worthwhile thing to do.
Pleased that it worked out for you.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Can I meet you half way? I'll||
Can I meet you half way?
I'll request a kit and sign up as a potential donor, but I would like to continue arguing about "Ohio." Fair?
|8 weeks 5 days ago||This was a classy move, but||
This was a classy move, but I can't be the only Michigan fan who's driven crazy by the "Ohio" thing. It's confusing and I don't see how it's insulting. I like that Hoke does it - as one of those quirky, fun rivalry things - but I'm not sure that means that everyone needs to do it.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Those are bold statements.||
Those are bold statements.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||I didn't realize that||
I didn't realize that opinions on Smith are that strong, so I could be off, but their expectations for this "GM" position might be a little crazy. This position will report to the coach/president. To get an experienced NBA GM who apparently has the trust and respect of that coach/president seems to me like all that we could ask for.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Wow, that would alleviate a||
Wow, that would alleviate a lot of concerns about SVG's lack of front office experience - and with a guy SVG knows he can work with (and apparently likes/trusts).
|8 weeks 5 days ago||You must be a joy to be||
You must be a joy to be around. I swear that 3/4 of the time that I see a ridiculously negative, whiny post these days and check who posted it I find your name.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||In hindsight - seeing what a||
In hindsight - seeing what a headache Howard has been - it seems that KVG handled him really well. Howard was damn good there, too.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||I think the coaches handled||
I think the coaches handled this pretty well. They gave a few top guys a chance to decide, did their homework on Malzone, kept in close touch with him, and then offered at a time when they were ready for a Malzone commitment (after what they learned about him and their other options).
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Congrats, Alex! Go Blue!||
Congrats, Alex! Go Blue!
|8 weeks 6 days ago||I think people go a little||
I think people go a little overboard with the importance of loving Michigan before these kids get here. Once they're at Michigan, yeah it's important, but I didn't love either my undergrad school or my grad school before I went. Now I love them both. I'm not sure there's any real difference between Denard and Shane in how their pre-Michigan love of Michigan affected / will affect their performances.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||I hope some of those scores||
I hope some of those scores reflect poor/incomplete scouting, but visually that's a really misleading graphic. Wouldn't you expect a "7" to have 70% of the bar shaded? It looks like about 45% of that bar is shaded (and the others are equally weird).
|9 weeks 1 day ago||It's like clockwork with you.||
It's like clockwork with you. You realize that you don't often get commitments without interest expressed first, right?
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Does anyone know how much||
Does anyone know how much these kids tend to grow, on average? Like if a kid is 6'7" in his sophomore year, is the best guess something around 6'8"?
|9 weeks 1 day ago||This is a really strange||
This is a really strange response to my post.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||I've tried having||
I've tried having conversations with you about this before but it's impossible. Your cherry-picking of which points to use for comparisons drives me crazy. Conveniently, you went with "record in year three" and number of "inherited NFL offensive linemen." Rodriguez was here for three seasons. All three of them were abysmal. Hoke has been here for three seasons. One was excellent, one was mediocre, and one was shit. Believe me, I could cherry-pick points back to you, but that's not how reasonable people debate things.
I didn't think that Michigan fans were patient enough with Rodriguez and it pissed me off. I don't get fans like you who think the best response to believing that Rodriguez didn't get a fair shake is to not give Hoke a fair shake. That just seems so petty and childish.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Any idea what they have in||
Any idea what they have in mind for him (OG or RT)?
|9 weeks 1 day ago||A lot of people have simply||
A lot of people have simply refused to believe that they may have been wrong about both Rich Rodriguez and Brady Hoke.
Funny. I happen to think the exact same thing about you.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Smart teams don't draft for||
Smart teams don't draft for the upcoming season, especially at #4 overall. The Browns weren't going to be serious contenders this year, especially without Gordon, so you do what you think is best for the next several years.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Wait, the Domino's ad||
Wait, the Domino's ad campaign is STILL built around "We've been a really shitty company for a long time but now we're about to get better"? Doesn't that seem like the kind of as you'd want to run for a short time and then bury it forever?
|9 weeks 3 days ago||I'm going to||
I'm going to practice.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||I actually find it sad that||
I actually find it sad that Penn State feels like such a sleazy, gross program these days. I felt the same way when Notre Dame started doing horrible things with its own sleazy coach. We've had a few issues lately but nothing IMO that rises nearly to the level of the grossness of those schools. I miss the time when it felt like programs like Penn State and Notre Dame did things the right way even if it costs them wins.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||The thing I find most||
The thing I find most ridiculous is that even when it's over, you have no idea how your team did. I don't think there's any correlation between how pleased I've been immediately after drafts and how successful the draft ultimately proved to be.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Guh||
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Thanks for the extremely||
Thanks for the extremely relevant, insightful, tastefully delivered comment. I look forward to your future posts.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Seriously, there are about||
Seriously, there are about 10-20 posters on here who are so bitchy and redundant that it makes a lot of these offseason threads almost unreadable.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||PHONE EDIT: Those offers just||
PHONE EDIT: Those offers just came this week, so he's probably about to blow up.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||He's probably unranked||
He's probably unranked somewhere, but the 247 Composite has him at #174 overall in his class. Offers from Xavier and Creighton and some crystal balls to Wisconsin, Michigan, and Drake.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||That literally might be the||
That literally might be the easiest Big Ten schedule of the modern era.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Question||
If I think that Michigan should be ranked around #21-25 and that we might win a few games this year, am I not welcome in this thread? I don't want to kill the buzz for all of the "Michigan is the worst, we'll be lucky to go 1-11" types.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||You keep saying that you're||
You keep saying that you're finished with sports until September and I keep hoping that you'll follow through with that.
|10 weeks 6 hours ago||Fooled again. That was just||
Fooled again. That was just a beach ball next to a barber shop pole.
|10 weeks 7 hours ago||6'5" sharp-shooter out of||
6'5" sharp-shooter out of Texas. #36 overall (#5 SG) in the 247 composite rankings. Decommitted from Oklahoma State in February, and the smart money seemed to be on Michigan, OSU, or Florida. Visited OSU this weekend.
|10 weeks 7 hours ago||Same response to you as to||
Same response to you as to the guy above. And piss off with the "just wants bad stuff to happen to UM" thing.
Plus, the "Matta sucks" talk is way overblown. He doesn't. The guy's first season at OSU was 2004-05. If I counted right, he's won five Big Ten regular season titles (outright or shared) and three conference tournament titles. He's also been to the Final Four twice.
There's no way that I'd trade Beilein for Matta, but Matta's not nearly the dope that people around here claim sometimes.
|10 weeks 7 hours ago||Okay, guy, I'm one of the||
Okay, guy, I'm one of the most optimistic people here, but the fact that basketball has been awesome lately doesn't mean that the only reasonable response to bad news is, "Who cares? We're awesome."
I think Grandstaff would have been great here and it sucks that he's going to OSU. I don't remember saying that we're doomed. We'll be fine.
|10 weeks 7 hours ago||Your avatar helped in||
Your avatar helped in delivering this message well.
|10 weeks 7 hours ago||Dammit. OSU is absolutely||
Dammit. OSU is absolutely raking in talent these days. On 247's composite ranking, they got the #16, #30, #58, and #182 prospects in the 2014 class, already have the #36, #38, and #89 prospects in the 2015 class, and hit big with this year's transfers. Hopefully Matta screws it all up.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Don't worry about it. You||
Don't worry about it. You can prove that your original statement is true.
1. Craig James is a person.
2. At some point in the past, a person killed five hookers.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||I agree on the spring game||
I agree on the spring game thing. It's a wasted opportunity. Even if Hoke feels like he needs another practice, I can't imagine that the marginal benefit of a 15th practice five months before the season starts is really that much greater than the benefit of having a true scrimmage. Throw in the recruiting and fan enjoyment/loyalty benefits and it seems like a no-brainer.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Ha. True, but I wouldn't||
Ha. True, but I wouldn't complain if Wilson really is the 67th most talented player in the country and Beilein's about to turn him into the 6th most productive player in the country.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||I think it's a really good||
I think it's a really good question and I'm still torn on it. On the other hand, you could think about your hypothetical scenario from the school's perspective.
Something just happened between a guy and a girl on campus. They're telling conflicting stories. She says that he raped her and he says that it was consensual. We have no idea who's telling the truth and who is not, or whether there are misinterpetations or bad memories involved. Let's say that the facts nudge us toward believing the girl but only at 51% or so. On one hand, if we expel the guy and he didn't do it, we've seriously wronged him. On the other hand, if we think he's probably a rapist and we're letting him stay unpunished, we're putting our students at risk and sending a scary message to people who might consider doing something horrible in the future.
It's a tough problem. Personally, I think I'd rather see the standard set closer to 75% than 51%, but those kinds of percentages probably aren't meaningful to people anyway.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||I swear that half of all||
I swear that half of all Crystal Ball projections are from Land-Grant Holy Land and I don't think I've even been to that site.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||What do we make of Beilein||
What do we make of Beilein recruits skyrocketing up the late rankings? I'd love to believe that's because these guys are showing something at the end of their high school careers to indicate that they're much better prospects than it seems.
I wonder, though, if that's just recruiting services betting on Beilein and his staff to turn these guys into overachievers. If you're Scout, you're probably thinking that you'll be evaluated by how well these guys play after high school, and a Michigan recruit is more likely than most other recruits to perform better than his high school talent suggests. Better to overrate them a bit now and figure that Michigan's talent development will pull them up toward those loftier rankings later.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Michigan's response to the||
Michigan's response to the Gibbons thing was far from perfect, but it was 1000x more responsible than MSU's response to the Appling and Payne thing. If I were affiliated with that school, I'd be out for blood right now.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||MSU||
As of this coming weekend, MSU has officially dragged its feet long enough to get through the NCAA Tournament and Commencement without losing two of its top basketball players and having to deal with some nasty press.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Interesting article. Thanks||
Interesting article. Thanks for posting. That all seems very plausible to me.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||This was my best guess, too.||
This was my best guess, too. Because of that, I wonder if being on this list isn't much of an indictment.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||It's interesting that there's||
It's interesting that there's a disproportionate number of academically elite schools on there (Harvard, Yale, Chicago, Amherst, Swarthmore, Dartmouth, Princeton, Michigan, Berkeley, Virginia, UNC, etc.). Does anyone know why that's the case?
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah, that's how we work out||
Yeah, that's how we work out on Sunday nights. It's amazing what throwing a few thousand piranhas every week will do for your triceps.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||I have to say, I love the||
I have to say, I love the "spirit of sport" thing. I almost vomited on myself when I read that quote you posted, and I laughed at your NBA comment here.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||My view on the Hoke years so||
My view on the Hoke years so far is that 2011 was better than expected, 2012 was what should have been expected (with that schedule), and 2013 was worse than expected. Even though the record has slipped, though, the roster points to an upward trajectory for the coming years. Unless 2014 is a true mess, I'm more than happy to see how this thing looks when the roster is truly together in 2015.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||I just looked this up on||
I just looked this up on Rivals. If I did it right, here are Lloyd's last few years:
2004 - #5 class overall, #3 in mean rating
Recruiting rankings don't tell the full story, but I have a really hard time with the "Lloyd stopped recruiting well" explanation. That's more than enough talent to win with.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Well, I'm an NFL Hall of||
Well, I'm an NFL Hall of Famer, and I say that if you haven't not never had a coaching change then you'll not necesssary not lose and win. So there.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Then press the green arrow.||
Then press the green arrow.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||And if Beilein doesn't||
And if Beilein doesn't finally win the national title this year, fire his ass.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||This, so hard. People jumped||
This, so hard.
People jumped on Rich Rod too quickly, and it's driving me crazy to see the same thing happening with Hoke. Building programs takes time, especially when you're trying to reshape the roster as fundamentally as these guys were. I'm expecting a pretty mediocre season in 2014, followed by really good ones in 2015 and 2016. I just hope that the Michigan fan base can keep from crapping all over itself and throwing the shit around if we see something like 8-5 this year.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||These posts are great, Raoul.||
These posts are great, Raoul. Thank you.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||So you're 18 3/4? If you're||
So you're 18 3/4? If you're young enough to be thinking of your age in terms of fractions, you're too young to be that negative.
|11 weeks 1 hour ago||My question -- If Jashon||
My question --
If Jashon Cornell naming MSU his leader today means that life is horrible, we'll never win another game, and MSU has permanently surpassed us, does Chris Clark naming Michigan his leader today mean that life is wonderful, we'll never lose another game, and we've permanently surpassed OSU?
|11 weeks 22 hours ago||My instincts say "don't||
My instincts say "don't engage, this isn't going anywhere" but I'll try anyway.
I have no idea what data would be meaningful to you in showing that experience is valuable for offensive linemen, so I won't try with that again. If your indicators for that kind of thing are sane, you'd see that experienced O-linemen are much better than inexperienced O-linemen, all else equal. And yes, I think that pulling up the Pac-10 all-conference honorable mention list from five years ago is arbitrary. In fact, do you know who the first-team Pac-10 offensive linemen were that year (2009)? Five seniors.
You've made a lot of other points that I find completely wrong over these last few posts. A few of them:
|11 weeks 1 day ago||I agree with you. In fact,||
I agree with you. In fact, if it were up to me, Funk wouldn't be here in 2014. But you're saying something much more reasonable than (1) youth is no excuse because two Stanford guys were honorable mention Pac-10 all-conference selections a half-decade ago and (2) Hoke should be recruiting and developing offensive linemen as well as Rich Rodriguez did while he was here.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||A pet peeve of mine is seeing||
A pet peeve of mine is seeing people cherry-pick a couple of outlier guys who did something well and then saying, "See, it's been done, so there's no excuse for Michigan not doing this well." Guys like DeCastro and Martin are clear exceptions, not the norm. Last year's AP All-American first team OL had four seniors and a junior. In 2012, it was three seniors and two juniors. In 2011, it was four seniors and a junior. In 2010, it was five seniors. In 2009, it was five seniors. If I did that right, that's 21 seniors, 4 juniors, 0 sophomores, and 0 freshmen over the past five years.
Except in extreme cases, young linemen take time to grow and develop. I'm not at all sold on Funk, but to say that we should "expect" our coaches to do everything as well as that thing has ever been done before is a little ridiculous.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah. Man, those true||
Yeah. Man, those true freshmen and RS freshmen on the OL really had terrible college careers.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||I wouldn't. Too much weed.||
I wouldn't. Too much weed.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||I wonder if some of this||
I wonder if some of this relates to the tendency of Beilein-coached teams to have outstanding offenses and so-so defenses. The NBA probably values offensive production and potential more than defensive production and potential. An Izzo or Ryan team usually wins with good defense and imposing its pace. Putting players in front of NBA scouts who are stout defensively - or who work well in those coaches' less-than-sexy systems - probably doesn't get those scouts drooling like seeing our guys run transition beautifully, shoot extremely well, etc.
I'm not saying I'd change anything. Beilein & co. are amazing. I just wonder if that burns us a bit with NBA early entry decisions.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||My sense was that Horford was||
My sense was that Horford was trying to convince people that McGary had nothing to do with his thinking. I interpreted his comment as basically (if he could say it), "Look, McGary's not coming back and I still want to leave. It's not about him."
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Well said. Denying the||
Well said. Denying the appeal is especially absurd. Even with all of that context they decided, "No, really, let's fuck this guy up."
|11 weeks 2 days ago||I'd love to see someone||
I'd love to see someone compile a list of the penalties and non-penalties we've seen in college sports lately. Whether it's to individual players or programs, it's infuriatingly arbitrary and unfair.
This to me feels like a rule intended to punsh programs for not monitoring themselves ("If you aren't self-policing and we catch you, you're screwed"). If that's the case, then punish the program and not the kid. Penalize them a scholarship or something. And maybe at least to pretend to care about all of the actually bad shit that happens.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||I have nothing to add that||
I have nothing to add that hasn't been said but I'm pissed and I want to post something. Fuck you, NCAA. Fuck everything about you.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Your phone autocorrects||
Your phone autocorrects "college" to "collage"? You must write a shit-load of texts about collages.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||His comment is dickish and||
His comment is dickish and over the top. The editorial content here is still undoubtedly much better than what you find on the vast majority of sports blogs. Brian's a good writer, too, with a good sense of humor.
That said, I agree that the tone of front page posts has been off-putting lately. Everyone who disagrees with Brian is an idiot, there's no nuance or complexity to anything or anyone, straw men are made of opposing arguments, and there's no apparent interest in inviting or engaging in debate. More and more, I find myself coming to MGoBlog for the board - which I think has gotten much better lately (probably because of the point moderation) - and not the front page. Still, that's enough to bring me here 25 times each day.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||(Don's avatar is an actual||
(Don's avatar is an actual photo of Don.)
|11 weeks 6 days ago||That poor guy's seat is so||
That poor guy's seat is so bad that he doesn't even realize there's no game happening.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||I screwed this up in my post||
I screwed this up in my post above, too, but he did lose to Ohio a couple of years ago in what's for all intents and purposes the first round.
Still, I'm with you on this.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||This was well said. Hopefully||
This was well said.
Hopefully it's also a good sign that after seeing these guys in person the coaches (and players, apparently) decided that both are worth an offer.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||But it's not like Beilein's||
But it's not like Beilein's success was a one-year fluke or all attributable to one star player. Let's even ignore his pre-Michigan success. Beilein took over a program in pretty rough shape and in seven seasons has made the NCAA tournament five times (advancing past the round of 64 each time), won two Big Ten titles, and been to the Elite Eight twice and championship game once.
Those five tournament teams each had essentially a different star player.
2008-09: Manny Harris
If "trust the coaches" has ever applied, it's probably right now with this staff.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||Also, if Brunson is as||
Also, if Brunson is as insistent as reanimator is saying that he doesn't have to compete for playing time, I'm not sure how devastated Beilein and co. would be if he went elsewhere.
I should say that I'm also not convinced yet that two offers today was wise, but the least of my worries with this is Jalen Brunson.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||Do you really think||
Do you really think that you/we can say anything reasonable about Michigan's 2016-17 roster right now?
|12 weeks 1 day ago||It's amazing how much more||
It's amazing how much more informative the full game clips are (instead of the highlight reels). It'd be great to see that kind of video for all of these recruits... it feels like a much more honest, thorough look at how they play.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||And what does any of that||
And what does any of that have to do with MAAR and Dawkins? Brunson is a point guard. If anything, getting two non-PGs reduces the chance that he'd be in more of a fight for minutes.
Walton might scare away Brunson. MAAR and Dawkins almost certainly won't.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||I'm more concerned about||
I'm more concerned about competition in the other direction. I hope Fleetwood doesn't run into trouble because of this.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||I just pulled up his stats||
I just pulled up his stats and I'm kind of surprised by his limited productivity (and development), at least statistically. He never really became more than a 5 ppg, 5 rpg guy. In 2013-14, his senior year, he averaged 5.1 points and 5.4 rebounds per game in 33 games.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||Interesting. Thanks for||
Interesting. Thanks for posting. I wonder if any basketball will be played this weekend (even without the coaches around). It'd be pretty fascinating to see both recruits play pick-up with current players with everyone knowing that one of them will likely be offered before the other. My guess is that it won't be part of the weekend, but I find that my serious basketball-playing friends often play basketball as a way to get to know and hang out with people.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Trey's dad, Deuce Burke, is||
Trey's dad, Deuce Burke, is the one who really got screwed.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Don't get me wrong... I have||
Don't get me wrong... I have no idea how to watch prospects' film, so I rely almost entirely on recruiting services and offer lists. I think they contain a lot of information. They're just far from perfect (and far from unbiased).
|12 weeks 3 days ago||That's fair and I agree about||
That's fair and I agree about not writing off the ESPN rankings. I still don't see Hackenberg as "certainly the leader at this point," just because we have so little information about other guys. Cooper Bateman could be awesome - or could develop into an awesome QB - but was stuck behind AJ McCarron at Alabama. Who knows what he (or Shane Morris, Max Browne, Jalin Marshall, etc.) would have done at Penn State. Plus, these guys have a lot of development and football ahead of them. Whoever is best now might not be close to best when it really counts.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||At least back when they had||
At least back when they had that Wolverine Nation thing, I actually think ESPN's football rankings were biased in Michigan's favor. Michigan fans were paying for that site and you don't want to disappoint paid subscribers. (Plus, they were employing guys like Tom who would naturally spend more time seeing and writing about Michigan recruits.)
On the other hand, I think the 247 rankings do some very fishy things, too (as, I'm sure, do the Rivals and Scout rankings). For example, Bucknuts is a big 247 site, and a whole bunch of prospects saw a sudden, enormous jump in their ratings after committing to OSU. Similarly, RCMB is part of 247, and while MSU was getting a lot of shit for not having many 4-star football recruits last year, 247 was giving a wildly disproportionate number of MSU commits their lowest 4-star rating (i.e., everyone around the 3-star / 4-star border somehow just happened to end up barely on the 4-star side of that line).
|12 weeks 3 days ago||There's no way that anything||
There's no way that anything has been proven - or anything close to proven - about the 2013 QB class. Most of those guys haven't seen the field yet given that they just finished their true freshman seasons. Hackenberg happened to have an opportunity because of Penn State's depth chart (an opportunity that other guys at other schools didn't have). He played reasonably well, but there's a long, long way to go for that QB class.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||2016 rankings||
247 just released their first 2016 rankings yesterday. I'm skeptical that sophomore year rankings will correlate all that well to college success, but they're interesting nevertheless.
Erik Swenson, Michigan's only current 2016 commit, is at #233. No prospects from the state of Michigan are in their top 100, though five of them made the list (Martell Pettaway, Daelin Hayes, Lawrence Gordon, Thiyo Lukusa, and Jalen Martin).
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Ralph Lauren or bust||
Ralph Lauren or bust
|12 weeks 3 days ago||So Quad Burke?||
So Quad Burke?
|12 weeks 3 days ago||I was looking at Spike's||
I was looking at Spike's stats yesterday. That guy has already played in 76 games at Michigan. If he doesn't get hurt over the next two years, he'll very likely leave Michigan as our all-time leader in games played (breaking Morgan's record of 142 games).
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Well, I'm going to start||
Well, I'm going to start negging anyone who doesn't sign their comments just so you're doomed.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||If Donnal was really||
If Donnal was really dominating, I wonder if there was any talk of pulling his redshirt. If he's that good, he probably won't be here for five years anyway, and he might have been useful for the stretch run.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||Thanks, Brandon. This is||
Thanks, Brandon. This is helpful and interesting.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||... collapses into a 128 team||
... collapses into a 128 team playoff with 127 bowl games.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||What I'd love to see is a||
What I'd love to see is a single, incredibly desirable game for the worst two BCS programs (without adding any other bowls). Put it in Honolulu, make the gifts incredible, play it on Christmas Eve on ESPN, call in the Better Than Your Stupid Bowl, etc. That way, teams would have to make a midseason decision about whether to try to "Shoot the Moon" - in Hearts terms - and risk looking like dicks if they finish as the third worst team and miss the bowl.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||Right now (in April), I would||
Right now (in April), I would watch that game so hard.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||So the logic here is that||
So the logic here is that when someone who has no idea what he's talking about says something consistent with what you're talking about, it shows how right you are, since even that uninformed guy could see it?
In that case, I'll scour the internet for uninformed, unqualified, or dumb people making similar points to mine as evidence that I'm totally right about everything.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||I wasn't a fan of that||
I wasn't a fan of that blocking scheme either (and I love the OC switch), but since when does a post from some former defensive end no one has heard of who has no coaching experience or demonstrable knowledge about Michigan personnel or offensive football strategy enough to warrant a front page self-pat on the back?
|12 weeks 5 days ago||In fairness, we happened to||
In fairness, we happened to hit a stretch of insanely good rebounding teams in the tournament and we lost a ton of our rebounding ability when McGary went down. Some of that is because McGary's a damn good rebounder and some of it is because having McGary would have made us bigger up and down the roster (e.g., with Robinson at the 3 instead of the 4, where he got killed on the glass).
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Burke was obviously much more||
Burke was obviously much more productive than just about everyone else who plays college basketball. I actually don't think there was much separation between Hardaway and Robinson's output -- it just always felt with Robinson like he could/should be doing a lot more than he was.
Here are the stat lines from their final seasons at Michigan:
Robinson- 13.1 ppg/.532 eFG%, 4.4 rpg, 1.2 apg, .9 spg
And career (2 years for Robinson, 3 for Hardaway):
Robinson- 12 ppg/.567 eFG%, 4.9 rpg, 1.1 apg, 1 spg
I think it's possible that Robinson's game will translate better to the NBA than it did here, but I'm also not sure what to expect. He seemed reluctant at times (though not late in the season), and it's hard to suddenly see him being assertive with grown-ass men around.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||If you'll excuse a bro hug,||
If you'll excuse a bro hug, you've become one of my favorite posters on this site. I skim a lot of threads but almost always read your posts because I find so much of what you say interesting or generally worthwhile.
Okay, bro hug over. Stop being so weird.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Plus, does he really have to||
Plus, does he really have to spoil Stauskas's announcement? Just let the kid announce the decision how and when he wants to announce it.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||College basketball is really||
College basketball is really exhausting and frustrating to follow. Almost the second you get to know guys they're gone, and there's this annoying part of you that wants them either to be Burkean great or just barely not good enough to declare for the NBA.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||I'm not criticizing the||
I'm not criticizing the thread at all - in fact, I really like it - but there are just too many unknowns for me to have any idea (and it'd probably be that way until the season starts). I have no idea what we have in our freshmen, true and redshirt, and I'm very curious to see what kind of progression we see from Walton and Irvin. Anything from 2nd place in the conference to a bubble team seems very possible to me.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||I'm less skeptical of you||
I'm less skeptical of you than Leaders and Best (the guy above me) is, but you've obviously missed the first rule of journalism, which is to only report things that make your readers happy. This doesn't make me happy.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||I think Trey and Tim's rookie||
I think Trey and Tim's rookie performances could be more helpful. If NBA front offices were worried that Beilein's wizardry made Burke or Hardaway look much better than they actually are, they can probably put that concern to rest. It seems that Beilein's wizardry just helped those guys turn into much better basketball players (with the assistants' help, of course).
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Tennessee has been worse.||
Tennessee has been worse. They haven't had more than seven wins since 2007 and have had five losing seasons in the last eight years.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Maybe Frank Clark has been||
Maybe Frank Clark has been overhyped for the past year or so, but he has already outperformed his recruiting hype. He was a low 3-star, borderline top 50 in Ohio, and received few high-level offers (looks like just Michigan, MSU, Minnesota, Cal, and North Carolina).
|13 weeks 2 days ago||That's what she said?||
That's what she said?
|13 weeks 3 days ago||Ah, because you know with||
Ah, because you know with absolute certainty ("zero chance") what this kid's body will allow him to do five years from now. And think about what would be more insulting if you were in Austin Hatch's position: (a) people like me saying that we're not going to quit believing in the kid even if the odds are long or (b) people like you saying that it's hopeless (despite being a "great story")?
|13 weeks 3 days ago||Not to mention that Goodman||
Not to mention that Goodman didn't even specify which NBA. It'll be awfully convenient if Stauskas ends up in the Nevada Beekeepers Association and Goodman claims he nailed it.
|13 weeks 3 days ago||More generally, you have to||
More generally, you have to love the poster who decides that he needs to draw the line and be a realist here (not to mention that "great story" aren't the first words that come to mind for me). How about we let people be encouraging and optimistic here even if it isn't 100% rational?
|13 weeks 3 days ago||And zero chance that Spike||
And zero chance that Spike Albrecht will ever light it up during a national championship game.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||I remember the Vince Helmuth||
I remember the Vince Helmuth recruitment. [Side note: That might be the most pathetic thing I've ever written.] At the time, he seemed like a bit of a reach in terms of talent and position, but apparently he was a great kid with crazy leadership potential. I think I remember Helmuth talking - in high school - about how he and the Michigan coaches were going to try to get him on a path to college coaching. I hope everything is working out well for the guy.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||For the time being, I'm just||
For the time being, I'm just going to cross my fingers and hope that Oklahoma and Louisville are his grandmothers' names.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||I agree. I also like the||
I agree. I also like the idea that a bunch of guys wake up every morning thinking, "I could be a starter but someone else could take it from me." We'd might as well give the O-linemen every incentive to out-work one another over the spring and summer.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Yeah, I don't get it. It||
Yeah, I don't get it. It seems like whatever the marginal benefit of the 15th spring practice is (minus the benefit of having a practice/scrimmage that's actually fun to watch), it has to be really small compared to the benefits of making this a really fun, interesting day for fans, recruits, etc. The whole thing feels like a wasted opportunity to me.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Then a seriously sad state of||
Then a seriously sad state of affairs for Oklahoma, too, right? And how about for all of the schools that would want Mr. Lindsay but aren't even being considered?
Plus, it's not like Louisville has been Eastern Michigan lately.
I boo your comment.
|14 weeks 12 hours ago||I don't know, maybe start||
I don't know, maybe start with the fact that Michigan is a much better university in a much better city with a much more visible, high-profile football program that likely will be in much better shape when he arrives than it was in 2013.