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|3 hours 8 min ago||Hoke's not staying. I made||
Hoke's not staying. I made the same argument in a thread yesterday, but Hackett effectively told us yesterday that he's firing Hoke. He said that he'll be the one to make a decision about Hoke's future. The only relevant decision he can make is to fire him. If he "decides" to keep Hoke, then the next AD could just come in and decide to fire Hoke himself.
In other words, the only relevant decision that Hackett can make is to fire Hoke and he told us yesterday that he'll be making a relevant decision. Hoke's gone. Hackett's being respectful, because a lot of people like and respect Hoke, but I think it's very clear that Hoke's gone.
|3 hours 15 min ago||My initial impression is that||
My initial impression is that I don't want this guy as the long-term AD. The frequent references to his leadership of a "global corporation" are offputting in the Brandon aftermath and cringeworthy more generally. I also read/hear many of his statements and wonder what the hell he just said, if anything.
I have a feeling that he's going to push for the job. Hopefully Schlissel goes out and gets a successful athletic director to run our athletic department, not a successful businessperson. They're different jobs that require different types of people.
|1 day 7 hours ago||I don't even see the evidence||
I don't even see the evidence that Mark Stoops is a better coach than Hoke. The best thing I've heard anyone say about Stoops is that he's a good recruiter. So's Hoke. And although Hoke's overall record is pretty lousy - and his team's current performance is even worse than that - Hoke's been a MAC coach of the year, Mountain West coach of the year, and Big Ten coach of the year. Stoops doesn't have anything near that on his resume.
|1 day 8 hours ago||Something tells me that||
Something tells me that "don't hire potentially successful people because they might earn opportunities elsewhere" isn't a hiring strategy that's adopted by many high-functioning organizations.
|1 day 8 hours ago||You really think that Mark||
You really think that Mark Stoops and Butch Jones are on that short list of top choices? I have no idea what people are seeing in Mark Stoops. If his last name weren't Stoops would you feel as strongly about him?
|1 day 8 hours ago||He's basically a hitman who||
He's basically a hitman who will weigh in on the permanent AD search. I can't imagine he's making many serious long-term decisions for the athletic department beyond this. So yeah... not bad compensation for what he's being asked to do.
|1 day 8 hours ago||Totally disagree. By saying||
Totally disagree. By saying that he'll decide Hoke's future, Hackett just told us that he's going to fire Hoke. If he decided to keep Hoke, then the next AD could just come in and decide to fire him. The only "decision" by Hackett that's relevant is a firing and Hackett just told us that he's making a relevant decision.
And that makes sense to me. There's no reason to leave blood on the hands of the permanent AD, especially when so many people like and respect Hoke as much as they do.
|1 day 8 hours ago||Maybe point the camera in the||
Maybe point the camera in the other direction if you want to give us an actual indication of how attendance looks right now?
|1 day 11 hours ago||I'm happy for Faith and||
I'm happy for Faith and Michigan softball. But MGoSoftball, someone politely suggested that you put a "(softball)" in these thread titles - before others impolitely suggested it - and there's no reason for you not to do it. There's less ambiguity when the name is Faith than when it's Alex, but still.
Again, though, good news and Go Blue.
|2 days 9 hours ago||Come on, are you really||
Come on, are you really pretending to be a Michigan fan? Your posting history leaves no doubt that you're a Sparty.
I like having other schools' fans here - even MSU fans - but it helps when they act like adults.
|2 days 11 hours ago||He wouldn't need to signal||
He wouldn't need to signal that to UM. He could literally just call Schlissel and tell him.
Much more likely in my mind is that he's trying to communicate to his Miami coaches, team, and fans that he's committed to his current group and their current run at the playoffs. In other words, he won't be the type of owner who ruins a potentially good thing by distracting everyone with Harbaugh talk over the next couple of months.
|2 days 12 hours ago||Back to RCMB, amigo.||
Back to RCMB, amigo.
|2 days 12 hours ago||Yeah, I'm a little skeptical||
Yeah, I'm a little skeptical about this one.
|2 days 12 hours ago||If I'm putting that together||
If I'm putting that together correctly, Bacon is guessing that we'll get one of the 4-5 "insider" (i.e., U-M) guys who are very well known. Are there that many names on that list? Jim Harbaugh and Les Miles, obviously. John Harbaugh? Who's next? It seems like a big jump to a guy like Teryl Austin (and I wouldn't call Austin a name that won't go away).
By "another Rich Rod," did he just mean that he won't be a major surprise? Mullen's name has been out there, for example, and although he's an "outsider," he wouldn't be a major surprise.
|2 days 13 hours ago||Another point about Mullen is||
Another point about Mullen is that I think his records give a distorted view of MSU's performance (making it look more positive than it has been). He gets credit for playing a nightmarishly difficult SEC schedule, but here's who MSU has played out-of-conference since he's been there:
2014- Southern Miss, UAB, @ South Alabama, UT-Martin
That's garbage. Throw in a couple of conference games against teams like Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Arkansas, and those 7-6 type seasons really don't look all that impressive, even for MSU.
EDIT: In my post above this one I meant to write "former employers," not "former players." I have no idea what Mullen's relationship is with his former players.
|2 days 13 hours ago||There's no risk-free||
There's no risk-free candidate, but Mullen has some definite question marks.
I can forgive a lot of those things, but it's much easier to forgive some negatives when you're looking at someone with Harbaugh-like positives. Mullen's a good candidate, no doubt, and I want Michigan to look closely at him... but I want Michigan to look closely at him. We need to figure out what we'd be getting with this guy. As a candidate, I see him as much closer to Todd Graham territory than Jim Harbaugh / Bob Stoops territory. And that's fine, since that's the territory where we'll probably have to find our coach.
|3 days 13 hours ago||+1, with "unrelevant" being||
+1, with "unrelevant" being the difference between a +1 and a -1.
|5 days 5 hours ago||These kinds of comments about||
These kinds of comments about Harbaugh's marital dynamics creep me out. None of us has any idea of what's going on between Jim Harbaugh and his wife, nor do we have any basis for making statements about what she's entitled to ask for or expect. Marriages are funny things, and the Harbaughs are fortunate enough that they can be picky about a lot of things that other families have to be flexible with (e.g., where to live). I mean, Jim could retire tomorrow and I'd imagine they'd be fine for a long, long time.
|5 days 12 hours ago||If that's what it'll take,||
If that's what it'll take, Jim, we can find a different position for Mr. Schlissel.
|5 days 12 hours ago||Isn't another interpretation||
Isn't another interpretation that he employed assistants who were generally good assistant coaches but generally not good future head coach material? Maybe that's not ideal, but it's very different from saying that they were a bunch of mediocre assistants. In fact, it's probably hard to win as much as Lloyd did with mediocre assistants.
My guess is that a big part of why we're struggling now is that our assistant coaches aren't as good at being assistant coaches as the guys on Carr's staff were.
|5 days 13 hours ago||Wasn't that Stewart Mandel||
Wasn't that Stewart Mandel with his yearly "crush"? Definitely one of the weirder things we've seen in college football writing lately.
|5 days 14 hours ago||I'm inclined to believe what||
I'm inclined to believe what we heard about Pat Forde here. And as a result, I'm inclined to believe that Pat Forde sucks at his job.
|6 days 7 hours ago||I mean, the guy even said||
I mean, the guy even said it's a bold prediction. Do we have to mock everything that seems even a little implausible? There's nothing crazy about Bob Stoops, a former Florida DC, possibly being interested in Florida after 15 years in Oklahoma and at a time when people there seem to be getting bored with him.
Would I be a little surprised if Stoops left Oklahoma for Florida? Yes. Is it a stupid idea to an extent even approaching Gruden, etc.? No, it's not. I'd be less surprised if Stoops makes this move than I was when RR moved to Michigan in 2007.
|6 days 8 hours ago||I can't find it now, but I'm||
I can't find it now, but I'm pretty sure that Kelly had a news conference while he was at Oregon in which he was asked about coaching in the NFL one day. He very honestly said that NFL coaching is the highest level of his profession and it's something that he'd consider one day.
I'm rarely "he's not coming" guy, since who knows, but Kelly's not coming.
|1 week 2 days ago||Bacon's in a tough spot with||
Bacon's in a tough spot with things like this. All that people really want to hear from him are rumors and predictions (and predictions mostly because they offer a veil to communicate rumors without actually saying anything about them).
But if he's not hearing anything - and he's probably not hearing much that's meaningful, even if he implies or believes otherwise - it's hard to please this crowd right now.
|1 week 2 days ago||It's way too early to know||
It's way too early to know what Schlissel wants and where he'll take Michigan athletics. At the moment, I'm feeling like there's about a 60% chance that he takes it in a positive direction, a 30% chance that nothing comes of it (because he decides this isn't the hill he wants to die on), and a 10% chance that he actually goes too far in a damaging way.
Then again, I'm probably more tolerant than most of integrity at the expense of wins in college football. But I also care about wins and I think that a lot of things that people talk about as integrity issues really aren't (e.g., see Brian's excellent post yesterday).
|1 week 2 days ago||That's honestly mind-blowing.||
That's honestly mind-blowing. From the Caesar part, to the double-mention of bacon, to Mott's of all companies being behind this, to what the hell "Clamato" is, I have so many questions.
|1 week 2 days ago||Well, I'll give you credit||
Well, I'll give you credit for interpreting my comments in a way that's more ridiculous than I would have thought possible.
I'm talking about how, in an abstract sense, we should approach the question of "Do colleges serve their student-athletes well?" I'm not talking about hiring fortune-telling admissions officers. I'll be more specific about that next time.
|1 week 3 days ago||Well, he should have known||
Well, he should have known that Trey Burke is not a reliable source for information on Trey Burke. He should have checked message boards and FlightAware like the rest of us.
|1 week 3 days ago||I'm about the fifth person to||
I'm about the fifth person to say this, but this is excellent and I agree wholeheartedly.
There are real issues involved with college athletes and academics, but I think the actual issues and the imaginary issues get thrown around together.
For example, I think the critique that too many athletes have soft majors or take easy courses is ridiculous. Why should we expect kids with more modest academic credentials upon admission, and dozens of hours per week of additional responsibilities, to take the same courses and perform just as well as the broader student body (on average)? Of course we shouldn't. And why should we expect athletes and non-athletes to have the same interests? I mean, maybe the reason that a lot of Michigan athletes study kinesiology is because that's closer than anything else to their interests, not just because it's easy. I picked my major because it's what I identified with and liked to think, talk, and read about.
The bottom line question to me is how well these athletes do in life after they leave their universities, and whether they're getting the same kind of (or better) life trajectory bumps that their non-athlete peers get. I don't have Brian's personal experience with former athletes, but my sense is that most former Michigan football players do very well even if they never sniff an NFL career. And that's true even though most had low GPAs and SAT scores relative to the rest of the university.
And then there are actual issues. Sham classes are a problem. Telling a kid who wants to major in physics that he can't because needs to focus on basketball is a problem. But I don't think people are nearly careful enough in defining what's a problem and how to assess whether it's happening.
|1 week 3 days ago||In Schlissel's defense, if||
In Schlissel's defense, if the information that got him riled up was seeing 50-60% graduation rates for the football program, then I'm glad he's riled up about that. That shouldn't happen and it's evidence of a problem. With the way we're graduating football players now - and football players with more than enough talent to win games - there's no reason that our football program's grad rate should ever be that low.
If he believes that the solution to 50-60% graduation rates is holding athletes to essentially the same admissions standards as non-athletes, I think he's wrong. I'm sure that our last couple of senior classes didn't have those kinds of credentials. All signs suggest that our current coaching staff has done very well in this area, which is probably both about screening kids carefully up front to be sure you think they can succeed at Michigan and then caring for them and staying on top of them once they get here.
|1 week 4 days ago||Come on, leave Jesus out of||
Come on, leave Jesus out of this.
|1 week 4 days ago||I saw the line, "He, like||
I saw the line, "He, like Devin Gardner and Jake Butt, are getting healthier every day," and kind of rolled my eyes at the cliché and thought, "Okay, who isn't?" Then I realized that I'm not - in fact, I'm probably getting less healthy everyday - and that's true of almost everyone I know. We're all over the age hump, basically just counting down our days as we wither away to our future decrepit, miserable selves.
Good news about Norfleet and the offensive line.
|1 week 4 days ago||He rebuffed Tennessee, but||
He rebuffed Tennessee, but that was after only two seasons at Duke. He might be one who believes that quick job-hopping isn't right. (Remember how loyal he was to his assistants at Ole Miss.) And just because a guy rebuffed a decent program five years ago doesn't mean that he wouldn't make the jump from Duke to Michigan for a final head coaching job. I have to think he's touching Duke's ceiling right now, and I can't imagine anyone would blame him if he left.
|1 week 4 days ago||You think 5 years is too long||
You think 5 years is too long to turn around Duke? It's Duke. They were awful before he got there. Rebuilding projects don't happen with the snap of a finger, especially when the project is such a massive one.
|1 week 4 days ago||David Cutcliffe from Duke.||
David Cutcliffe from Duke. He isn't a no-name, because I think most people (here) know who he is, but I've seen very little mention of him for this job. That's probably because he's relatively old (60), but I care less about age than most here. Give us 5-10 good years and that's more than enough for me.
Cutcliffe inherited maybe the worst major conference college football program, replacing a coach who went 6-45 overall before Cutcliffe took over. His team has improved steadily, won the ACC Coastal division last year, and is 8-1 right now. He's a reigning national coach of the year and has an excellent record with developing QBs. He also seems like a good guy who would be a good spokesman for the university, and I assume that he's working within some actual academic requirements and expectations at Duke.
Cutcliffe's not at the top of my list, but I think Michigan could do much, much worse.
|1 week 4 days ago||I think it's a much harder||
I think it's a much harder job than a lot of people are saying. There's seems to be a notion that we can just hire anyone with a pulse and as long as he can bring us a good football coach for the 2015 season, nothing else matters.
But that's just not true. Our next AD will likely have to navigate Schlissel's "balance" demands and fans' impatience for wins, figure out which traditions to preserve/bring back and where to allow modernization, hire at least one football and basketball coach, keep the department in strong financial health despite waning football ticket demand, keep U-M clean at a time when even schools like UNC and ND are dealing with academic scandals, competently manage any crises that do arise (with increased scrutiny on issues like player safety and campus sexual assault), handle a new apparel contract (right?), appease / put up with the many groups at U-M that will weigh in on this coaching search, especially if we don't get Harbaugh ... and many more issues.
This isn't as simple as hiring the guy who gives us a slightly better chance of getting Harbaugh than the other guys. It's an important job and I think Schlissel is right to spend some time figuring this out.
|1 week 5 days ago||Okay, having read through||
Okay, having read through this thread now, I have no doubt that it peaks with the white noise / nipple-level cubicle conversation at the beginning. I didn't think it would when I was in that section, but the thread definitely doesn't go uphill from there.
|1 week 5 days ago||Another way of saying this is||
Another way of saying this is that your nipples are like cubicle-high.
|1 week 6 days ago||I don't know what that is,||
I don't know what that is, but compared to most trophies it looks pretty delicious. Chocolate-caramel swirl, I assume.
|1 week 6 days ago||This is what worries me about||
This is what worries me about this Michigan team. It's all Bielfeldt. If you look at the true one-man teams in recent memory... LeBron's (former Cavs), Iverson's 76ers, Kobe's Lakers, Bielfeldt's Michigan, etc... they eventually run out of gas. One guy can only do so much.
|1 week 6 days ago||Nicely handled, JGB. Those||
Nicely handled, JGB. Those comments from MichAero feel very relevant and necessary.
OP, if MichAero has that right, then boooooo this thread. I feel kind of ambivalent to begin with about taking comments heard in class right to MGoBlog. I know it's the world we live in, but I still think it's a little disrespectful to the speaker, and if you want speakers to keep coming and opening up, then let them talk to the people in the room without then telling the world about it. But to do that and then ignore the context is pretty shitty. Especially when it makes a relatively anonymous, seemingly decent guy look petty and spiteful.
|1 week 6 days ago||Good call with the music.||
Good call with the music. David Bowie's "Space Oddity" would have also been acceptable here.
|1 week 6 days ago||The timing depends on the||
The timing depends on the coach. If there's an opportunity to hire Harbaugh (or Stoops or someone else at that level), you hire him and figure that if the future AD has a problem with that, he's too crazy to be AD anyway. You can't hire anyone beneath the "dream candidate" list without the new AD being involved. The dynamics would be too weird and messy if we hired an AD who stepped into a situation in which Todd Graham or Tom Herman or someone had just been hired.
|1 week 6 days ago||Wagner's Alba Berlin team||
Wagner's Alba Berlin team actually just beat the Spurs, 94-93, in October. Wagner had no points, rebounds, assists, steals, or blocks in one minute of play, but if we get him, I'm treating this as definitive evidence that Beilein >>> Popovich.
|1 week 6 days ago||It's really not fair to||
It's really not fair to criticize Michigan for not getting Harbaugh in 2010 (not that you are). He had multiple NFL offers and ended up staying close to home, in the Bay Area, for $5 million/year and a team that obviously had the raw materials necessary to build a winner. He turned down a supposedly more lucrative offer from the Dolphins.
If Michigan had been able to keep him from going to the NFL, it would have been a major coup and Brandon rightfully would be viewed very differently right now. As it is, you can blame DB for the Hoke hire but you really can't blame him for not getting Harbaugh. Maybe he didn't try hard enough - which, fine, is a fair reason to assign blame - but I seriously doubt that Harbaugh would have turned down that 49ers job no matter what the Michigan AD did.
|1 week 6 days ago||No doubt that wasn't our||
No doubt that wasn't our defense's best showing, but to be fair, there's a Shane Morris pick-6 in there, and Minnesota started four drives in Michigan territory in the second half. That "30" was as much because of the offense as it was because of the defense. Our offense went three-and-out or worse (INT/fumble before getting a first down) on 8 of its 12 drives. That's awful.
|1 week 6 days ago||We have a good defense and a||
We have a good defense and a terrible offense. The problems with the offense are numerous. Our skill position players are slow and lack the explosiveness of teams like OSU. Many of the skill position players we do have are banged up (Green, Funchess, Norfleet, Harris) or ineligible this year (Isaac). Our quarterbacks are a disaster. The scheme doesn't make up for any of these faults with its creativity. And surprisingly, our OL is only about fifth on the list of problems (which points to both progress in the OL and the disaster that is the rest of the offense).
The defense, on the other hand, is really good. I think we're a healthy Jabrill Peppers and a non-regressing Blake Countess away from this being an excellent Michigan defense. A lot of people are claiming that this coaching staff hasn't developed anyone, but that's clearly not true for our front seven. They've been very, very good, and that's with our star players being a bunch of lightly recruited guys who have done extremely well here (Ryan, Clark, Henry, Glasgow, etc.).
Honestly, our team isn't the disaster that some are making it out to be, which is a really good thing for the future. We're enough of a disaster - and the coaching is enough to blame - that we need a coaching change, but the new staff will have something to work with.
|2 weeks 1 hour ago||The idea behind bowl games is||
The idea behind bowl games is that you should get matched up against a team that's roughly as good as yours. Going .500 is the expectation. Stoops has been in a ton of major bowl games, which makes an 8-7 record pretty impressive. In order, he's gone to the Independence, Orange (OU's nat'l title year), Cotton, Rose, Sugar, Orange, Holiday, Fiesta, Fiesta, BCS NC Game, Sun, Fiesta, Insight, Cotton, and Sugar. That's damn good. And those were consecutive years -- there weren't any missed bowl games in there.
And do you know what Nick Saban's record is in bowl games? 8-7.
|2 weeks 2 hours ago||It would be worse than the||
It would be worse than the Hoke hire. Hiring Mark Stoops would be atrocious. The guy has been coaching for two years. He went 0-8 in the SEC last year and is 2-5 right now (with home wins against 0-6 Vanderbilt and 2-5 South Carolina). Yes, Kentucky is 5-5, but that's only because they've played UT-Martin, Ohio, and UL-Monroe out of conference. Hoke's record wasn't deserving of being hired by Michigan, but he had been a coach of the year in two conferences prior to his hire (the MAC and Mountain West).
The floor for this next hire needs to be set somewhere around a Todd Graham type. I'm confident that someone with Graham's profile/stature or better will agree to come if Michigan pursues hard enough and offers a generous enough contract. Mark Stoops is several steps beneath that floor.
|2 weeks 10 hours ago||Yeah, I'm thinking Quick Lane||
Yeah, I'm thinking Quick Lane or maybe the Pinstripe, in either case against an ACC team.
|2 weeks 11 hours ago||I feel exactly the same way.||
I feel exactly the same way. It's striking to me when I see people saying that Mark Richt is a mediocre coach because his trophy case doesn't look like Saban's or Miles' trophy case. No, he's an excellent coach who seems to play by the rules (unlike his competition), and playing by the rules comes at a high cost. Teams wouldn't bend and break rules - or be as loose as they are ethically - if it didn't offer a serious competitive advantage.
And for fans who give a damn about fair play and ethics, that sucks. You either have to want your team to compromise with those principles or accept a real disadvantage against the other schools that do. Or you could just wait for the NCAA to take these things seriously, which I'll believe when I see.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||In this game, it's kind of||
In this game, it's kind of hard to blame him. Our defense is our only offense.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Eh, that one's too popular||
Eh, that one's too popular these days. It seems like every kid I meet is named either Noah or Ass Shit McButt-Fart.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||He's an interesting case.||
He's an interesting case. His numbers are very good but not great, but he does seem to be a clean coach in a dirty conference. If he relaxed his ethics to Saban / Miles / Freeze levels, then he'd probably have some sexier accomplishments on his résumé. I'd imagine that he has a lot of Georgia fans wondering if it's time to just play by the same rules that the other SEC heavyweights play by, as gross as that would feel.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||This, and he said that||
This, and he said that: (A) there's a 50-50 chance of landing Jim if Michigan fires Hoke and (B) there's a non-zero chance that Michigan keeps Hoke. Put those together, and even if he had said that he'd "bet against" Michigan landing Jim, that would be a better than 50-50 bet.
TL;DR version: Your post didn't make any sense and my post hardly makes any sense.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Wait, Bacon is a friend of||
Wait, Bacon is a friend of Jim Harbaugh? If that's an actual friendship (e.g., they talk) and not Bacon claiming a friend who wouldn't really reciprocate, then shouldn't we feel more confident about Bacon's speculation on this?
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Shit, Harbaugh can pick my||
Shit, Harbaugh can pick my boss if he'll come to Michigan.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Dan Mullen was 2-21 against||
Dan Mullen was 2-21 against ranked teams prior to this season (with 14 straight losses). Even with a program like Mississippi State in a conference like the SEC, that's not good. And those overall records are misleading because of how terrible MSU's nonconference opponents are most years (e.g., this year they play Southern MIss, UAB, South Alabama and UT Martin).
What he's done this year is outstanding, and he's a really good candidate for our job because of it. But he needs to be looked at very carefully, because it's not yet clear whether he is building an excellent program or just caught lightning in a bottle in the first eight games of this season.
There's a tendency on this board to evaluate a guy's candidacy entirely by how is team is performing at this exact moment. We've even had threads about how possible candidates' profiles changed based on the past Saturday's games. That strikes me as a very bad way to hire a coach, especially when most of the hot coaches this second will likely regress to the mean next year.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||This is how I feel, too. You||
This is how I feel, too. You call guys like Stoops and Malzahn just in case someone surprises you with interest. And who knows? Someone out there could have issues with his athletic department that we don't know about, could be looking for a new challenge, or could be excited about Michigan in particular. I realize that we're in EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE, WE'RE BASICALLY A MAC SCHOOL mode right now, but the reality is that Ann Arbor's a nice place to live, Michigan is a resource-heavy historic powerhouse with tons of institutional advantages, most coaching changes don't happen with such experienced and (supposedly) talented rosters, and these last seven years have recalibrated fan expectations a bit and created an opportunity for a successful coach to be regarded as a hero-god. And there aren't many other jobs available this year. It wouldn't surprise me at all if we found an excellent coach who people are assuming right now wouldn't be interested.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||The crowd that's supposedly||
The crowd that's supposedly clamoring for a "Michigan Man" is becoming a bogeyman type character. Is there a single poster here who's insisting that we hire a Michigan Man just for the sake of hiring a Michigan Man? I get that a lot of people want Harbaugh, but Harbaugh would be a terrific candidate for any college job. I feel like there are 100 posts per day complaining about all of the people demanding a Michigan Man coach and 0 posts per day demanding a Michigan Man coach.
Maybe this is an issue with some former players or with whatever part of the Michigan fan base doesn't post here, but I really don't see this major part of our fan base that's demanding that only coaches with Michigan ties are considered.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I think it'll get harder for||
I think it'll get harder for him in the NFL, too. Players on different teams talk to one another and hear about what's going on. If players on other NFL teams believe that he's an asshole or condescending or whatever, then they probably won't cut him much slack if he shows up on a new team and starts looking like a hard-ass. They'll start rolling their eyes very quickly, which is what it sounds like is going on in San Francisco.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I know that there's hyperbole||
I know that there's hyperbole involved for effect, which is fine, but this is plainly untrue:
A lack of transparency is always in service to the people entrenched at the top of the institution and not the institution itself.
Transparency is neither good nor bad in itself. Whether it's healthy for an organization (or the world) depends on the circumstances. An athletic director at a public university should be accountable for dickish, dismissive messages he sends from his work account. There, transparency is good. On the other hand, an athletic department at a public school shouldn't have to conduct a search for a football coach in plain view of anyone who wants detailed information about the search. (I know you aren't arguing this.) Allowing some of that to happen behind closed doors is in the best interest of the school.
I think "transparency" has taken on an aura of "yes... good... always more" when there's actually a lot of nuance involved.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||FWIW, Tirico is in my Tier 2.||
FWIW, Tirico is in my Tier 2.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Why are you strongly opposed||
Why are you strongly opposed to getting coaches who currently coach at their alma mater?
|2 weeks 4 days ago||She sounds hideous.||
She sounds hideous.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I agree. And to take it the||
I agree. And to take it the next step, I don't want to see any great would-be coaches ruled out as implausible until someone actually checks with the guy to make sure he isn't interested. Who cares if Bob Stoops tells you "Sorry, I'm an Oklahoma lifer" and Art Briles says the same about Baylor and Gus Malzahn about Auburn? It's worth the time to make those calls just in case one of those guys surprises you. The worst that happens is that you're told no.
Whether it's because of issues with a current school (a la Rodriguez), a desire for a new challenge, a particular interest in Michigan or whatever, it's completely possible that one guy out there would surprise us. And if we miss on our absolute top targets, it'd be really stupid to settle for a so-so coach when a very good coach could have been persuaded to come.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||You aren't alone. The poster||
You aren't alone. The poster right above you said almost exactly the same thing.
I agree, too. And the Bill Snyder measuring stick is a little ridiculous, since that's using basically the most extreme case (w.r.t. age) and figuring that it's what we can expect here.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I agree this is why he might||
I agree this is why he might stay. I was just pointing out that he's not a born and raised Southerner (which the "Mason-Dixon" language might imply). In fact, there have been stories this year about how Mullen is finally winning people over down there despite not being a Southerner.
Also, to nitpick, Mississippi State isn't a top 3 program. It might be a top 3 team this year, but it's not a top 3 program yet. Just building a top team at Mississippi State is extremely hard, and Mullen is a great candidate for our job because of what he's doing. But there's a difference between that and, say, what Harbaugh did at Stanford, which was to build a program out of nothing that Football Outsiders (FEI) says has finished at #19 (2009), #2 (2010), #7 (2011), #7 (2012), and #2 (2013) over the past five seasons.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I agree. It also prevents us||
I agree. It also prevents us from getting into a bidding war with Florida.
This seems like a weirdly quiet year for major coaching changes. Even the NFL feels to me like it has fewer likely changes than usual.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||That might be, but it||
That might be, but it wouldn't be because Mullen's a lifelong Southerner. He was born in Pennsylvania, played HS football in New Hampshire, played college football in Pennsylvania, and coached in New York (Wagner, Columbia, Syracuse), Indiana (Notre Dame), Ohio (Bowling Green), and Utah (U. of Utah) before getting to Gainesville in 2005.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||But that's the point. With||
But that's the point. With some people thinking that he should return and some people thinking he should go, the AD has flexibility. If a good coach is available, fire Hoke, hire the new guy, watch most of the people who leaned toward keeping Hoke get excited about the new guy, and write off the rest with a "you'll never please everyone." If no one good is available, hang onto Hoke, since a bad new hire does more damage than a contract extension that you can always buy out of if need be. (DB's $3 million didn't prove to be much of an obstacle.)
Trust me, if Michigan goes 7-5, fires Hoke, and hires Harbaugh, you won't hear many people shouting "How dare you!" There might be a few, but if I'm the AD in that situation that's totally fine with me.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I think Michigan winning out||
I think Michigan winning out provides the greatest flexibility possible for this search. Few would seriously object if Hoke were fired after an ugly 7-5 season with a soft schedule. At the same time, it wouldn't be out-of-this-world ridiculous to bring him back. That would enable the new AD, if he wants, to conduct a coaching search while still employing Hoke, fire Hoke if/when he finds a better alternative, all while maintaining the ability to keep Hoke if it looks like the alternative is a questionable hire who could set us back even further.
As far as process goes, I think that's probably roughly what happened with Borges/Nussmeier. It seemed that they didn't let Borges go until they knew they had a better option, which strikes me as the ideal way to do these things.
More generally, winning out would be great because winning is great and beating OSU is especially great.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Wasn't there a rumor floating||
Wasn't there a rumor floating around that John was potentially interested in Michigan? I know nothing of its origin or truthiness. Does anyone know anything about that?
|3 weeks 8 hours ago||I'm going to be really||
I'm going to be really disappointed if at the end of the year the rankings basically have the undefeated teams first, then the one-loss teams, then the two-loss teams, etc. If that happens, then everything they've said about strength of schedule is bullshit. Minimizing your loss # by playing an easy schedule would be clearly the best move. I think there's going to be at least one SEC, Pac-12, or Big 12 team with two losses and a schedule that is vastly tougher than a one-loss team that wins a lesser conference. I hope we find out the committee was genuine when it talked about SoS.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||The guy above you criticized||
The guy above you criticized him for never developing, symbolizing all that's wrong with Michigan Football, and setting the program back a decade. And sometimes, yes, it's okay to cut people some slack when they say stupid things that really don't hurt anyone, especially when those people have been through more than their fair share of shit.
EDIT: Forget it. You actually should be banned for your mocking "Glory to God" (from Brock Mealer's shirt) later in this thread. Unbelievable.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||I can't believe you find it||
I can't believe you find it appropriate to post a mocking "Glory to God" (a reference to the 1% shirt) because of this tweet... or because of anything else for that matter. Asshole.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||It's probably good that I||
It's probably good that I don't have a blog, because I'd fucking ban you for this if I did. Can we put Mealer's career in a little context? Like the fact that right before he came to Michigan, a 90-year-old ran a stop sign, hit the car he was in, and that accided killed his dad, killed his high school sweetheart, and paralyzed his brother. Then Elliott tore his rotator cuff while he was trying to pull his brother out of the car. On Christmas Eve. And then he managed to pull himself together for a solid college football career and a brief stint in the NFL.
So fuck you. Maybe cut the guy a little slack if he tweeted something that wasn't well worded.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||The capacity of people on||
The capacity of people on this board to be offended by things blows my mind. Are those speaking out here (e.g., by mocking him for not being in the NFL) really, genuinely bothered by this? Maybe get some thicker skin? Whether it's this, Hoke's fans being "fickle" thing, the "true fans" thing, the Brian Cleary comments, whatever... I just find it hard to get personally hurt by any of this stuff. And that's true despite thinking that the comments are stupid.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||If you're Harding, this could||
If you're Harding, this could be a really savvy, smart move. Assume that you believe you might want to go to Michigan. By committing now while Hoke and his staff are still here, you force the next coaching regime to actively decide not to honor your commitment in order to keep you away (rather than to simply not offer you). It's probably much harder to do the former. Now whether you'd want to play for a coach who doesn't really want you is a separate question, but he's potentially giving himself an option that he might not have had without this commitment.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Eh, I'd say no need to||
Eh, I'd say no need to overreact to every little comment, especially one that's relatively innocuous and comes from a guy who deserves a little slack.
He did remind me that Family Guy episode in which Peter becomes beautiful and starts calling non-beautiful people "normies." So I appreciate that.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Whoa, that's a nice||
Whoa, that's a nice pick-up. Early offers from USC and Tennessee, and IIRC Mattison saw him in camp and thought he was an incredible prospect.
Maybe Ace's post-MSU post about reversing the trend was actually dead on. Hopefully that was our true low point, after so many illusory ones, and we're about to seeing things come up Milhouse. A man can hope, at least.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||This makes no sense. First,||
Double post. But a double post because Dave Brandon's resigning, so I'll take it.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||This makes no sense. First,||
Triple post. Damn right.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||This makes no sense. First,||
This makes no sense.
First, I agree with dothepose that this is unfair to what could have been very good athletic department employees stuck with a very bad, intimidating boss. And in general most of our athletic department's crimes aren't of the protecting Jerry Sandusky variety. They're mostly of the being money-grubbing, tone-deaf dicks variety. If there's a Sandusky situation and knowledgeable people say nothing, they should be fired immediately. This is kind of a different deal.
Second, whether a guy has connections to Michigan and how he'll handle the current athletic department aren't perfectly correlated. Its not like all outsiders behave in way X and all insiders behave in way Y. We're in an unusual situation in that a lot of the seemingly qualified AD candidates have ties to Michigan and probably reasons to want to return. A lot of seemingly qualified ADs don't. I hope they're all considered. Even though the "Michigan Man" thing is mostly stupid when it comes to coach selection, there actually are ways in which an AD hire of that type could be nice. If I were the new AD (call me, President Schlissel), I would be very vocal that the attitude of the athletic department has been bullshit lately, that it violates what we all love about UM athletics, and that we're never going to do that again. An insider actually can speak a little more credibly on those kinds of things and understand which stupid-on-the-surface traditions mean something to a lot of fans and why.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||If we're honest with||
If we're honest with ourselves, almost none of us has a clue who would be the best AD here. Even when people are citing these guys' records, it's typically based on a couple of coach hires, which has obvious sample size problems.
I know that I want the current guy out. Beyond that, I'll trust that Schlissel & co. will handle the search and selection well.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||"We're thrilled to introduce||
"We're thrilled to introduce our new athletic director, Brandon David."
|3 weeks 2 days ago||I usually don't do POSBANG||
I usually don't do POSBANG threads but I'm doing this one dammit. +1 to each of you is coming even if I have to fight through blisters and bloody fingers to do it.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Okay, I say this as someone||
Okay, I say this as someone who likes WD and defends him and his passion for Michigan sports...
Before this gets too crazy, there was no chance that DB was going to be Michigan's athletic director in 2015. Maybe this accelerated the process a little bit, but if you think that if not for that email then our new president would have kept an insanely unpopular, bad AD whom he didn't hire - and pissed off huge parts of the Michigan community in doing so - you're nuts.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Wait, you're taking credit||
Wait, you're taking credit for this? Actually, who cares. This looks like it could become a damn good day for Michigan sports.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Not trying to stir up a Mount||
Not trying to stir up a Mount Rushmore discussion - hello, bad sports radio when there's nothing else to talk about - but Howe's competition for the greatest athlete in Michigan history isn't Bobby Layne and Al Kaline. Howe was amazing and might be the guy, but the real challengers IMO are Joe Louis and Ty Cobb.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||That was true until 2010.||
That was true until 2010. The 2010 class was not a good one. Its national ranking was propped up a bit by its then-thought-to-be-large size (27), but it was a fringe top 25 class by average recruit rating.
And it's not like the recruiting services were wrong to doubt that group. Here it is, in all of its glory:
Ash, Avery, Black, Christian, Dileo, Dorsey, Furman, Gardner, Hagerup, Hopkins, J. Jackson, C. Johnson, C. Jones, Kinard, R. Miller, Pace, Paskorz, J. Robinson, M. Robinson, D. Rogers, Ryan, Talbott, Talbott, Vinopal, A. White, Wilkins, Williamson
|3 weeks 3 days ago||30,000 points exactly. Save||
30,000 points exactly. Save the keyboard that you used to type this comment in case the MGoBlog Hall of Fame requests it one day.
Also, this my memory is consistent with yours. I just checked on Football Outsiders, and their FEI ratings had Michigan at #59 in 2009 and #55 in 2010. So not much improvement there, at least according to that measure.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||In this particular case, it's||
In this particular case, it's not just that. If Florida hires Rodriguez (or Spurrier, for that matter), that removes them from the coaching search group without having them take a guy we'd take. That would leave us as the highest-profile school looking to fill a job... without any of our realistic candidates gone. That would be good.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||My best case scenario, just||
My best case scenario, just from a sports should be fun perspective, is Harbaugh, Dantonio, and Meyer all here at the same time. I think all of those programs would be good, they'd all be entertaining in their own ways, and the coaches would be at each others' throats.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||I mean, alum96 explicitly||
I mean, alum96 explicitly said that isn't what he meant:
"I am not saying that from the persective I wish he was gone so UM can win etc."
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Our strength of schedule is||
Our strength of schedule is fucked. So long, College Football Playoff.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Or just UFR the 2002 UM-MSU||
Or just UFR the 2002 UM-MSU game instead. UM 49, MSU 3 has to make for a happy UFR.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Really, it makes sense,||
Really, it makes sense, because the de facto primary donor to the non-revenue sports is the football program. If football revenues decrease sharply, the non-revenue sports will feel it.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I think the real reason that||
I think the real reason that DB hasn't been fired is that Schlissel doesn't want to give the impression that he'll follow an angry mob's lead and there's a lot of stuff that comes with firing someone like Brandon (contract, replacement, how it happens, etc.).
But I think there's one football-related reason why waiting for a few weeks isn't such a bad thing. When Brandon gets fired, the AD and coach search stories will get much more plentiful and national. I don't think it's good for us if guys like Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, Dan Mullen, and Les Miles are being asked about the Michigan job every week. Their only option is to adamantly deny interest, and once those denials pile up, it can both hurt our chances with those guys and damage their reputations if they came. The screams of "LIAR!" followed Saban around and that could happen here, too. It wouldn't be terrible for us to stay a little under the radar (relatively, that is) for at least a little while longer. The Harbaughs and Mullen could be coaching well into January.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||My list keeps changing (even||
My list keeps changing (even since that podcast), but I'll go:
1. Jim Harbaugh
That only includes guys who seem semi-realistic, though I'd like to see us check in on the seemingly unrealistic guys, too, just to be sure (guys like Petersen, Helfrich, Bob Stoops and Mora). Herman is my favorite coordinator candidate. I'm not buying Stitt as a Michigan HC right now.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Fuck you. If the Easter||
Fuck you. If the Easter Bunny isn't real then nothing is.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||That's interesting.||
That's interesting. Actually, his FEI at Rice in 2007 isn't nearly as impressive as his point scoring suggests it should have been.
I have him too high on my list. I think it's fair to question whether Meyer is behind OSU's offensive success right now. At the same time, it's also fair to note that Meyer could have nabbed a whole lot of guys as OC and he went for Herman. Unless he just wanted an OC who would stay out of his way, Meyer obviously liked something about what he saw from Herman at Rice and ISU. Other good things about Herman are that he's supposedly a terrific recruiter, he's running a type of offense that many of us would love to see in Ann Arbor, and whatever is happening with OSU's offense these days is clearly good (from #65 in OFEI before he and Meyer got there to #10, #3, and now a Braxton-less #18). And Mensa, dammit, which sounds really nice right now. He's also supposedly on a short list with Chad Morris for the SMU job, so others are apparently screening him favorably.
Still, I'm with you that there are questions. He definitely would be a guy who would require very careful assessment.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||That's fair. I just really||
That's fair. I just really like Hermann, and while I'd prioritize a safe hire, I think it's foolish to be absolute about things like that. I also really like Patterson. I listed eight guys because in my mind there's a drop after those eight guys (without including the guys we're collectively assuming won't come, like the ones I mentioned after my list).
I'll be very, very happy if we hire Gary Patterson.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I still think you guys are||
I still think you guys are nuts with Stitt as HC at Michigan right now, but other than that, I'm in general agreement. I don't know if you said why John Harbaugh wasn't mentioned, but he feels about as likely to me as guys like Patterson and Gundy. So I'll include him. My list:
1. Jim Harbaugh
I'm prioritizing "safe" with this hire (e.g., demonstrated success as a high-level HC), even if the guy might not stick around for very long. Graham is a little gross, but almost everyone on that list is either regarded as a dick (including Mullen) or seems kind of sketchy. If I'm AD, I'm also making phone calls to guys like Mora, Petersen, Helfrich, (Bob) Stoops and Sumlin just to be sure that they aren't interested before ruling them out.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I tried to go out of my way||
I tried to go out of my way to not say that most MSU students/grads applied to UM and were rejected. I'd bet that many MSU students/grads didn't apply to UM because they knew they wouldn't get in. And frankly, yes, I think if every kid who enrolled at MSU had been offered admission to UM, many/most of them would have accepted that offer. I'm sure there are some who chose MSU for a specific program (or because they like the town better or whatever). I'm skeptical that this describes "tons" of MSU students, especially if those students could have gone to UM.
But whatever. These conversations are hard to have without sounding like an arrogant dick, and I was being sincere when I said that I think MSU is a perfectly fine school. I didn't apply to Yale because I wouldn't have gotten in. I don't resent Yale for that, but then again, Yale is far from western Michigan, I didn't have a bunch of people around me who got in there, and Yale isn't in the same athletics conference as UM.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Okay, here's my view on the||
Okay, here's my view on the "little brother" thing, if you'll excuse some amateur psychology.
To UM alumni/students, it feels petty, because we see it in terms of the Hart comments, Dantonio's reaction to them, and the handful of other times it has come up in the football rivalry. In that context, the comments seem blown way out of proportion.
To MSU alumni/students, the context is entirely different. It is the embodiment of the core insecurity that comes with being an MSU graduate... that there's another school in the state that perceives itself as better and is perceived as better by the rest of the world. And, frankly, that sucks, I get why it sucks, and I would resent Michigan if I were an MSU guy, too. MSU is a fine school, but the reality is that many/most MSU students and alumni would have gone to Michigan if they could have, and the reverse is true for hardly any UM students/alumni. And no football winning streak will change that. It just is. And again that sucks, because MSU really isn't a shitty school. It just stings to be told (or knowing) that you can't go somewhere because that school doesn't think you're good enough, especially when you're 17 years old. And having Ann Arbor so near serves as a constant reminder of that stinging feeling.
Amateur psychology finished. My apologies if it's offensive, as that wasn't the intent.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||No joke. We're hiring Brett||
No joke. We're hiring Brett Favre as both coach and AD.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||And really, three weeks would||
And really, three weeks would be fine. I'm sure that the AD candidates know who they are, have lists of which coaches they'd pursue if hired, and might even have done some of their own backchannel work, too. I mean, if you're one of the guys on the list and can credibly say, "Hey, dream coach is coming to Ann Arbor if you hire me," then that seriously strengthens your candidacy. So I don't think we're falling behind by not having the new AD in place yet. Plus, with respect to timing, we learned from the Miles thing in 2007 that staying under the radar can be helpful. It wouldn't help Michigan's chances right now to have weekly denials of interest from the Harbaughs, Mullen, Miles, etc., since the potential "liar!" accusations would just make it harder for them to come or uglier if they do. If this process speeds up with an AD firing and coach firing in the next couple of weeks, those questions for other coaches will pick up, and fast.
Then again, I'm in the camp who thinks it's 99.9% certain that Brandon is gone, so I'm not too worried that a delay means he might stay. I think Schlissel is just trying to get the timing and the details right.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||This was my reaction, too,||
This was my reaction, too, but the article has a quote from Ross in which Ross claims that he doesn't think alumni like him should be running universities. If the tone of his comments had been "I'd interfere with the firing if I wanted Brandon to stay, but I'm okay with the firing," then I'd have been pissed. Who knows what he actually believes - and what he does behind closed doors - but his statement that this is Schlissel's decision and he'll stay out of the way is the right one.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||Speight was a "trust Borges"||
Speight was a "trust Borges" recruit, and as Brian pointed out a few months ago, Borges's record with QB recruiting is abysmal. Speight deserves a shot, though, and I am excited/curious to see how he competes with Morris for the job.
|4 weeks 15 hours ago||Yes and no. Hoke has a||
Yes and no.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Okay, I'm all for doubting||
Okay, I'm all for doubting this staff, but can we not add "neglected a possible murder plot" to the ridiculous list of allegations that we've had around here lately?
It's probably too late, though. I'm sure ESPN is already working the murder plot angle for our daily front page story.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Your reaction was the||
Your reaction was the appropriate one. Mine was "Hmmm, I wonder if there's any way this offer could improve our chances with Harbaugh."
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I agree. I'm not sure I've||
I agree. I'm not sure I've ever wanted a human being to do anything as badly as I want Jim Harbaugh to come to Ann Arbor next year. In addition to being insanely qualified, this is exactly his mentality.
And yes, guy who's about to respond to this post, I understand that it's unlikely.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||If Brandon's in there saying,||
If Brandon's in there saying, "Hey, I think we need to do more X or stop doing Y or try play Z," then that's (1) insane and (2) very different from him just sticking his head in to see what happens. Sticking his head in probably isn't good either, because it gets people nervous and changes the dynamics in the room, but it's completely different from him actually dictating what kind of offense or defense we're running.
There's no doubt that it's a little weird and that it might undermine or mess with our coaches' thinking. Still, that's a very different allegation from saying that Brandon is designing our offense.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||That makes sense. That's||
That makes sense. That's probably mostly a story about pressure to win. At non-Power 5 schools, the fans generally don't care as much, so you probably see more guys survive with mediocre results but an otherwise stable, clean, happy program.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||As far as I know, there is no||
As far as I know, there is no evidence of this whatsoever. We've heard that Brandon likes to sit in on film sessions, but I haven't seen a word about Brandon dictating anything with respect to playcalling or strategy.
I want Brandon fired. It's both dishonest and unhelpful, though, to mislead people about what he's done in order to encourage that firing. His true record offers more than enough reason for dismissal. When people start exaggerating, misleading, or extrapolating, it makes it seem like the bad stuff he's actually done might also be exaggerated.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||I generally like John U||
I generally like John U Bacon, but I swear that he just copies and pastes his single template story these days, making a few tweaks each time he publishes it.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||No. You're a UNC guy, so||
No. You're a UNC guy, so you'd probably lie, cheat, and steal your way through the relationship.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||That's probably true, and I||
That's probably true, and I really was just messing with you. I just think of you every time I see something pop up about UNC wrongdoings.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||100 (I think). So just 29||
100 (I think). So just 29 more comments defending UNC's improprieties and responses to those improprieties and you're there.
[Edit: No hard feelings. Just giving you a hard time.]
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Not sure why you think that I||
Not sure why you think that I think this is unique to American sports. I just mentioned the U.S. because that's what I know best.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Yup. Here's a list of NBA||
Yup. Here's a list of NBA coaches who have been with their current team for more than the past six seasons: Gregg Popovich. Hell, only six coaches have been with their teams for more than three seasons (Popovich, Spoelstra, Carlisle, Brooks, Thibodeau, Monty Williams).
The NHL isn't much different, where about half of the coaches (14) are in either their first or second year coaching their team, and Mike Babcock is easily the longest-tenured coach.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||And what would our banner||
And what would our banner say, exactly?
1993 Men's Basketball
|4 weeks 2 days ago||If UNC officially wasn't in||
If UNC officially wasn't in that game and UM officially wasn't in that game, then were fans who thought we were at the game (or watching the game) wrong about that? If that's the case, then many of us just lost our alibi for the night of April 5, 1993. We'd better hope there aren't any unsolved crimes from that night.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||I think this is insightful||
I think this is insightful and particularly relevant to this coaching search. We're not in a position to roll the dice with a guy who could become our next Bo but more than likely will flop. This seems like the time for a hire who's very likely to get the ship headed in the right direction, even if he isn't here for 20 years. I thought the same about our basketball program when it hired Beilein, which seemed like an excellent, safe hire (and turned out to be even more excellent than anyone expected).
If we could get 5-10 very good years from a coach who then heads to the NFL or retires, I'd be thrilled with that.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||I'll take the under on||
I'll take the under on that.
Basically, in American sports, we can't reach some kind of equilibrium where fans of most / almost all teams think that their teams are doing well enough to keep the same coach around for awhile. For example, if you added up what fans of different NFL teams "expect" their team to do, you'd get an impossible number of wins. We're just in an era when coaches either need to exceed reasonable expectations, and fast, or else likely lose their jobs. And there's no conceivable world in which most coaches are exceeding expectations simultaneously. Throw in the natural tendency for coaches to look for better jobs, and you get a ton of instability.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||incompetence != bad person||
incompetence != bad person
|4 weeks 3 days ago||And about that email that||
And about that email that you're looking to verify...
Is that something that, if true, makes most of us here kid-on-Christmas-morning happy, kid-on-way-to-dentist sad, or none of the above?
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Grantland had a really||
Grantland had a really interesting article on him. His personality isn't one that screams "killer instinct" (like maybe Kelly's or Harbaugh's personality). On the other hand, he's obviously an extremely sharp, creative guy. I'm curious to see what happens with him at Oregon and really don't have a good guess. Even if he's not Chip Kelly, there's plenty about Oregon that I'd love to see here.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Too soon||
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I see two paths to winning on||
I see two paths to winning on Saturday.
The first involves creativity on offense, Gardner's accuracy being on, Gardner staying in the game, stretching MSU's defense to deal with Funchess downfield, holding our own with turnovers and special teams, and crossing our fingers that bad Connor Cook shows up.
The second involves firing DB on Saturday. That's probably easier.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||He doesn't have to be itching||
He doesn't have to be itching to leave. Maybe he just thinks, "Eh, maybe it's time to try something new" or likes the idea of recruiting in Florida. Or maybe he actually is itching to leave and most of the world just doesn't know about it (e.g., Rodriguez at WVU).
If I were AD, I'd start by reaching out to almost all of the superstar candidates, even if it's very improbable that they'd want to come. Who cares if you hear a, "sorry, not interested," especially when just one guy saying "yes" could net you a stunningly good coach. After the Harbaughs, my first calls would be to guys like Stoops, Helfrich, Mora, Sumlin, etc., just to be sure that you aren't ruling out any potential home run hires because you wrongly think they'd have no interest.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Come on, you really think||
Come on, you really think that Jim Harbaugh's resume is similarly thin? The guy had two 11-1 years at San Diego, built Stanford up steadily from nothing to stable powerhouse, and then went to the NFL and instantly resuscitated the 49ers, where he's 40-14-1 and been to three NFC Championship Games and a Super Bowl over the course of three seasons.
Spare me your "Michigan Man" bullshit. That's about as stellar a record as you'll see for a potential college coach, let alone one who's only 50 years old. I don't think Jim's coming - and I'd be happy with Mullen - but Harbaugh's credentials far exceed Mullen's.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Mullen's credentials are not||
Mullen's credentials are not nearly as golden as some around here are saying. Coming into this season, Mullen was 2-21 against ranked opponents (with 14 straight losses). Mississippi State or not, that's bad. He was getting heat from MSU fans and didn't have anything resembling the sparkle that he has now.
I think Mullen's a good coach who would be a good hire, but he's nowhere near Harbaugh's class when it comes to credentials. Not many are - and we might not have a realistic shot at any of them - but Mullen is a guy who is about to have a chance to capitalize on an exceptional season (with a new job) after several pretty good ones. His typical season is much more in the neighborhood of 7-6 (3-5 in the SEC) - with a terrible nonconference schedule - which, in fairness, is still pretty good for MSU.
Again, likely a good coach, but this year is an extreme outlier for him.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Part of the question is||
Part of the question is whether universities are forcing or coercing students to study something they don't want to study (or avoid classes that they want to take). I'm obviously not for telling athletes that they need to major in kinesiology if they want to major in physics. Any athlete who wants to major in physics absolutely should be able to do so.
On the other hand, if you're arguing that football players generally should have the same distribution of coursework and majors that the broader student body has, then that's going to have consequences that probably won't be good for the football players. (I don't think that's what you're saying, but I'm a little unclear on your argument.) As a whole, football players probably don't want to take the same courses that other UM undergrads want to take. And on average they'd probably end up with much lower GPAs than their non-athlete peers if they took the same courses. That's partly because of time availability and partly because of credentials. Even if Michigan won't accept minimum qualifiers, there's a lot of space between minimum qualifiers and the typical, non-athlete Michigan undergraduate. If you want a football team that performs just as well in just the same courses as non-athletes, you're going to have to radically change the academic requirements for Michigan football. Maybe that's a good move - I'm not sure - but it certainly would keep some current players out of UM and would have serious consequences for which athletes we can and can't recruit.
More generally, I also think we disagree about what it means to get a "legitimate college education." A lot of people believe that college kids don't really learn much in class. My impression is that you don't have to take the toughest classes at UM in order to get a stellar education. In fact, taking classes that mean something to you and are appropriately difficult for you probably produces more learning - and a more "legitimate" college education - than cramming to get through classes that you hate and might not persist through. And a college degree is a big deal - and a really valuable signal on the job market - even if a kid hasn't taken the most rigorous courses that his university offers.
To repeat myself, I think sham courses are awful and every player needs to be encouraged to pursue whichever academic program he/she wishes. At the same time, I think it's fair and honest to acknowledge that football players aren't the same as other students. They have more obligations and (generally) more modest academic credentials. It's not unreasonable to think that they might not want and benefit from the same courses as others in their universities.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||What UNC did was extreme. I'm||
What UNC did was extreme. I'm thinking more along the lines of what Harbaugh said about Michigan. Take, for example, Michigan Engineering. It's hard. I can't imagine how hard it would be for someone who's also managing training, practice, and game schedules, especially if that student didn't have the academic credentials of other UM undergrads. Expecting athletes, as a whole, to take the same courses as non-athletes seems like it's setting them up for failure.
Two caveats. First, the UNC thing (e.g., the total sham classes) is bad. Second, you obviously want to be sure that athletes can go for a rigorous academic program if they'd like.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I get the concern about||
I get the concern about what's happening at UNC, but at the same time, if many/most of your student-athletes wouldn't have been accepted to the school on academic merit, and if their sports saddle them with far more outside-of-work responsibilities than non-athletes, why should we expect them to enroll and succeed in the same courses as non-athletes?
The New York Times headline called this a "shadow curriculum" for athletes. As long as those athletes do well after college - and I have no idea whether (and where) they do - it's not clear to me that it's terrible if athletes generally take different, less rigorous classes. Sham classes are a problem, of course, but in cases less extreme than UNC, I think there's more ambiguity here than meets the eye.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||It's not that simple. UM and||
It's not that simple. UM and MSU can't be great at the same time if they're both recruiting the same types of players, both recruiting heavily from the state / immediate region, and both mediocre or worse with identifying, developing, and using talent. In that situation, there isn't enough talent to go around.
But there are a lot of ways out of that problem. If Michigan recruits nationally while MSU recruits locally, if either school develops and uses talent as well as MSU's defensive coaches have recently, if the schools run entirely different systems that use different types of personnel, etc., then you can get around the talent shortage problem. For example, if our team were playing up to its recruiting profiles right now - and we're obviously not having a recruiting problem - then there would be two very-good-to-great programs in the state. It's far from impossible for it to happen; it's just a little unlikely at any given moment.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Also think about the level at||
Also think about the level at which Sam is likely plugged in. He's plugged into the coaching staff and maybe some folks in the athletic department more generally. He's almost certainly not plugged in to the president's office, the regents, etc. They're the ones who best understand what's going on here, and it seems very unlikely to me that Sam has his ear in on those conversations. He might hear about what the coaches are chatting about, but even that could be completely detached from what the actual decision-makers are thinking.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||But with Notre Dame it's not||
But with Notre Dame it's not true. Kids applying to Michigan don't necessarily think about applying to Notre Dame. It didn't even cross my mind, honestly, and I think I might have been accepted. Partly that's because I'm not Catholic. It's probably true that ND is harder to get into than Michigan, but the two schools aren't coupled like Michigan and MSU are (for reasons of geography, religion, tuition, etc.).
On the other hand, most kids applying to MSU either also apply to Michigan or would apply to Michigan if they thought they'd get in. It's a completely different situation. Similar to ND, Michigan and OSU don't have this academics thing going on, because I don't think many kids growing up in Ohio want to go to Michigan. OSU fans hate us because they're fucking crazy, not because we associate ourselves with a really good university.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||I think I agree, but in the||
I think I agree, but in the absence of party affiliation, how would those election outcomes realistically be determined? Most people don't spend time really learning about candidates, so they rely on cues like political party and endorsements to help them figure out which candidate they probably would like if they really looked into it. Political party is obviously pretty flawed / peripheral when it comes to understanding how someone would behave in a job like university regent, but I wonder if you'd get winners based on who has a nicer last name, distributes more/prettier lawn signs, appears on the ballot first, etc., if people couldn't rely on political party.
The best-case scenario would be the public truly learning about its candidates, but that's not about to happen, so I'm not sure which is the least bad alternative.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Ugh||
The fact that you can't see past politics to have a healthy perspective on life doesn't mean that everyone else has that problem.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||And how about... (3) If you||
And how about...
(3) If you want leftist, I'll show you leftists, and not one of them is a Democrat.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||This post is probably a good||
This post is probably a good reflection of why it's best to just avoid politics in this endorsement kind of way (and more generally). Another way to handle this kind of thing, Brian, is to offer a few candidates opportunities for Q&As and skip the endorsement. Hopefully the better ones would look better in their responses, and politicians have a habit of avoiding conversations with people they think will make them look bad. There'd probably be a lot to learn if someone refused a conversation about open meetings and the like.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||There's also an academics||
There's also an academics side to this. The reality is that many MSU students would have gone to Michigan if they had gotten in, and the reverse of that is not true. When you're 18 (or any other age, for that matter), it's shitty to have someone tell you that you're not good enough to go there, so people naturally resent those places. Plus, even if they didn't apply, most MSU students/alumni have to deal with a more widely held opinion that they would have gone to Michigan if they had been up to it.
MSU is a perfectly fine school, so I'm not shitting on their academics. But there's no doubt in my mind that this is part of why they seem to hate us so viscerally when our response to them is more eye rolls than hatred.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Nor should it be Schlissel||
Nor should it be Schlissel who makes that decision. If I were an AD, I'd be pissed if the university president made his own decisions about when to fire coaches, whom to hire as replacements, etc. That's the AD's job.
Brandon needs to be fired before Hoke. That's partly so the new AD can make the call on Hoke and partly because there's no reason to restrict the new AD's flexibility by having him step into a situation with no coach and an panicky need to get one ASAP.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Great, well framed post,||
Great, well framed post, Brian. Thank you. I like this as a way that blogs can communicate gossip with some transparency and discretion in a way that more formal news sources can't (and probably shouldn't).
It's especially nice to see you rein in the Carr conspiracy theories. They've been getting a little more ridiculous than usual lately.
I'm not the first to suggest this, but I, too, would be interested if you've heard anything about John Harbaugh. There has seemed to be more chatter about him than Jim, but I don't know if that's totally baseless.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||For me, the Brandon question||
For me, the Brandon question is basically a litmus test. I'm just done with the guy. Maybe, maybe if he could pull off a Harbaugh then I could stomach him for a little while longer, but I'm really sick of the guy. And I think it's almost inconceivable that a Harbaugh (or anyone near that level) comes to work for him.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||I posted something similar as||
I posted something similar as a baseless, likely-to-be-incorrect prediction a little while back. I personally think that DB is gone, so that wasn't part of my prediction, but in the (unlikely) dream scenario that John Harbaugh actually becomes our coach, you can tell this story:
If you're John Harbaugh, you keep Hoke/Mattison in the program because:
If you're Hoke/Mattison, you consider staying because:
If the John Harbaugh thing happens - which I think is a huge, huge "if" - then I don't think a scenario that has Hoke or Mattison staying is implausible. And honestly, if this somehow helps us get John Harbaugh, I think most of us would be fine with it, no matter how frustrated with are with the coaching right now.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah, when it comes to||
Yeah, when it comes to Dantonio, it's one thing to resist claims that we need a "Michigan man" coaching Michigan. It's another thing to want to hire a guy whose existence is built upon a profound, unyielding, unhealthy hatred of us. I'll pass on that one.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||No problem with it at all.||
No problem with it at all. In fact, among a sea of guys who aren't standing out to me right now (aside from the Harbaugh types), Tom Herman certainly deserves some background research.
Personally, I'd say no Tressel because he's Tressel and no Dantonio because he's Dantonio, but if Meyer wanted to come (he doesn't), I'd let him write his own check.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||I agree (with your last||
I agree (with your last couple of posts). In fact, my guess is that there's a guy out there right now who basically knows - because he's been told - that he's going to be the Michigan AD soon.
I like that Schlissel didn't fire DB immediately after the protest, just because I think that's the wrong message from a new president. Being deliberate is good. Now is the time, though, because the AD needs time with this. You can't fire Hoke before DB, because any athletic director should feel like he's allowed to make his own decisions about who's coaching his teams, and there's no reason to restrict an AD's flexibility like that. So fire DB soon, give the new AD time to look into his options and make sure there's a move out there this year that makes firing Hoke the right move, and then let the new AD be the one to remove Hoke and bring in the next guy.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Seriously, the people who||
Seriously, the people who declared 2014 a great year for UM sports - in February - need to be punched in the balls. I can't remember, but I might be one of them.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Thank you. If this is the||
Thank you. If this is the reference - and is it? - the OP shouldn't get people's hopes up like this. This fanbase is in an emotionally vulnerable state.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||(No subject)||
|5 weeks 2 days ago||A suggestion that you can||
A suggestion that you can take or leave:
Since you've already posted all of these, maybe it'd make sense to create one new forum diary that links to the other 14 diaries and contains any overarching thoughts or observations that came to you while doing this?
I'm thinking that might be a way to give context/analysis to these and show people where they are without burying any other diaries that people are working on.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||All conversation about Bob||
All conversation about Bob Still hinges on whether we're talking about him as HC or OC. If it's OC, you can probably sign me up, though I need to see more about what his offense is and whether it's likely to translate well to this level. If it's HC, there are so many major questions to answer... about recruiting, ability to handle this spotlight, plans for a defense, general rule-abiding, and on and on... that if he's the best choice we're seriously doomed.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Monthly meetings with||
"Monthly meetings with students will be held with Athletic Director Dave Brandon to address topics relating to all 31 teams and Michigan Athletics."
LOL. Unless that happens, in which case not LOL
|5 weeks 3 days ago||I think the backlash against||
I think the backlash against the pink uniforms sometimes goes over the top. I'm cynical, so I think the NFL (especially) and college football do this mostly to endear themselves to females, who could bring them big money. Still, awareness is a real thing, and sometimes the self-interests of people looking for money actually intersect with the interests of the rest of the world. Maybe we'd be better off if we spread the awareness stuff out a bit more (across breast cancer, prostate cancer, global poverty, human trafficking, ... whatever), but breast cancer is genuinely terrible and I'd imagine that these efforts have helped the fundraising efforts, along with getting people to pay more attention to monitoring themselves and their loved ones.
Stepping back, I love that you collected $5 from each player for breast cancer research and got your kids thinking about how to contribute to the world. I think that's a really nice move. All the best to your family, as well.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||A little more info on Xander||
A little more info on Xander Diamont.
He's a true freshman from California whom 247 says had no offers other than Indiana. Their composite ranking had him at #2004 and he was the #92 pro-style QB in his class. Here are the schools where the pro-style QBs ranked nearest him (above and below) committed: Florida International, Arkansas State, North Texas, Missouri State, UMass, and Abeline Christian. And I mentioned that he's a true freshman.
Good luck, son.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||If Indiana somehow wins that||
If Indiana somehow wins that game, we need to hire Kevin Wilson sometime in the next 10 days.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||It'd really be nice if just||
It'd really be nice if just this once - coming off of a bye week - it looks on the field like we've thought more and smarter about the MSU game than MSU has thought about it. I keep going into these games thinking that it'll be interesting to see what our coaches have cooked up only to watch us poop all over ourselves (under both Hoke and Rodriguez).
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Sorry, I don't know how I||
Sorry, I don't know how I missed that line.
If you're into the Offensive FEI stat, which is opponent-adjusted, OSU is currently #29. So that's not quite as lofty a ranking as the total offense statistic that was reported by Eleven Warriors suggests. On the other hand, it's still pretty damn good, and I'd imagine that a lot of damage was done in the VA Tech game, when OSU had a reasonable excuse for why they struggled (Braxton injury + Bud Foster smarts).
|5 weeks 4 days ago||My early sense is that I'm||
My early sense is that I'm going to like this guy. Not just for this AD process but generally.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||No problem. Now if you don't||
No problem. Now if you don't mind downvoting me 7,300 times, I'd appreciate it.
EDIT: Upvoted to get you closer to 7,300 points so that you have enough points to do that.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Negged in hopes of getting||
Negged in hopes of getting you below 5,000 so that you can experience the joy of getting to 5,000 all over again.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||I thought hockey nicknames||
I thought hockey nicknames are all about the "y" sound at the end. Is that just the Red Wings? Ozzie, Stevie Y, Shanny, Chelly (Cheli? Chelli?), ...
|5 weeks 4 days ago||For the record, I think moon||
For the record, I think moon dust is composed of whatever Section 1 doesn't think it's composed of.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||I think he's more intriguing||
I think he's more intriguing that any other coordinator I've seen mentioned. He's supposedly a top candidate for the SMU job right now (along with Chad Morris), and I'm sure his name will come up for other openings soon. He might not be ready for a head coaching job as high-profile as ours yet, but he's definitely a guy for whom Michigan should do its homework.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||But aren't OSU's opponents'||
But aren't OSU's opponents' defenses ranked poorly in part because of what OSU did to them? We're only 6-7 games into the season, so one bad game should hurt those rankings pretty badly.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||That's interesting. But||
That's interesting. But "Bakes"?
|5 weeks 4 days ago||If not, he should apply to||
If not, he should apply to Dearborn or Flint. Good schools that don't get the credit they deserve.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Thanks for sharing this.||
Thanks for sharing this. It's interesting to think about our AD search in terms of how progressive he'd be. Typically that's a desirable trait, but this is kind of an unusual case. I want someone who's willing to take us back to our roots a bit (in some ways). Basically, I'd like to see 2014 football played in front of a crowd that's getting a 1970/1980/1990/2000 Michigan Stadium experience. Right now we're getting antiquated football and a newfangled, cookie-cutter-modern stadium experience.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||what's ahead:||
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Is this the "nass" part of||
Is this the "nass" part of your user name? That the SEC has advantages in cash and ass?
I was thinking that it's funny how important this seems to be to you, just from this thread, but it turns out that might just be the tip of the iceberg.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||So it looks like there are||
So it looks like there are some tiers here in the media rankings (based on how the # of votes group together):
Nothing there seems too crazy to me.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||I was just thinking about||
I was just thinking about that guy. Appalachian State really is the gift that keeps on giving.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||My fear for this season is||
My fear for this season is that it's going to be really hard for us - myself definitely included - to get past the "what could have been?" question. It would have been so fun to see a roster with Mitch McGary, Nik Stauskas, Glenn Robinson, Caris LeVert, Derrick Walton, Zak Irvin, Jon Horford, Spike Albrecht, and all of these young guys. Hell, Trey Burke still could be here, though that obviously wasn't going to happen.
I'm excited to see what Beilein can do with this group and whether they can spectacularly surpass expectations yet again. I just kind of wish we could have seen that in 2015-16 after watching a Beilein-coached NBA team tear apart college basketball this season.
Oh, well. As Ace said, I'll (very) gladly take this compared to what it could be.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||That's terrible. Let's||
That's terrible. Let's boycott.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Agreed||
I was just reading through Gruden's 2nd grade pen pal letters, and he mentioned in there that his dream job was to be head coach at the University of Buffalo. So this makes sense.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Fun topic.If we could get||
If we could get 113,000 clones of your Metallica guy in Michigan Stadium, we'll never lose a home game again.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||THE_KNOWLEDGE:||
|6 weeks 1 min ago||I've always kind of secretly||
I've always kind of secretly hoped that Canadians call their Thanksgiving "Canadian Thanksgiving." As in, when they sit down to celebrate, they start by saying something like, "As we gather here for Canadian Thanksgiving ... ." Your post implies that's not true and I'm a little disappointed.
Just kidding. Happy Thanksgiving to all of you. The Canadians in my life are some of my favorite people.
|6 weeks 37 min ago||I miss his interviews, too,||
I miss his interviews, too, but mostly I miss his blocking.
|6 weeks 10 hours ago||To be clear, I meant those as||
To be clear, I meant those as shot-in-the-dark predictions rather than a statement of what I hope happens.
I think what you said is true 99.9% of the time. This could be an exception, though. I think Hoke's just not meant to be a head coach at a high-profile school. He doesn't seem to like the spotlight, he's not good in front of a microphone, and aside from recruiting he doesn't do the typical head coach things well. At the same time, he clearly loves this university, clearly loves the players in the program, and apparently has a good relationship with John Harbaugh. I don't think he'd mind the ego blow of being demoted at his own school (the way he defers to his coordinators suggests to me that he's not a typical egomaniacal college coach). Hoke doesn't seem like the type of guy who would undermine a head coach. He doesn't even really seem like the head coach now. I think he'd be happier in a more modest role, and he might appreciate having a guy he likes take on the not-so-fun parts of coaching and allow him a chance to redeem himself to the Michigan community. If you're Harbaugh, maybe you see someone like Hoke or Mattison as good to have around for continuity and keeping attrition / decommitments / former player bitchiness down, someone who knows how college football coaching works, and someone with a great track record as a recruiter and a lot of experience coaching defensive football (with a defense that, if it ever gets healthy, still seems like it could turn into something pretty good).
Again, I'm not making an argument that this should happen. I'm not even really making a serious argument that this is going to happen. This is an out-of-my-ass, unlikely-to-be-right guess that I haven't heard mentioned.
|6 weeks 11 hours ago||I'm not saying that I think||
I'm not saying that I think this rumor is true - I have no idea whether it's true - but people other than DB could initiate those conversations on behalf of the university. The worst part of that scenario is probably that the new AD might feel / look a bit powerless if this stuff is being coordinated without him. Then again, it's hard for me to imagine that too many incoming ADs would object to being handed a Harbaugh when he arrives. And I personally don't really care if our AD is (or appears) a little powerless. The most extreme possibility is that those in control know that DB will be canned, know who will be taking his place, and that guy actually knows that behind-the-scenes conversations are happening.
The bottom line is that a lot of scenarios are conceivable right now and we know next to nothing about what's really going on.
|6 weeks 11 hours ago||My baseless predictions:DB||
My baseless predictions:
DB gets fired in the next couple of weeks, the John Harbaugh thing somehow works out (for HC), and Harbaugh ends up keeping Hoke (or Mattison) on staff as DC / associate head coach or something.
|6 weeks 11 hours ago||People have bad habits when||
People have bad habits when it comes to over-interpreting lessons from small samples. It looks like we have a failed instance of CEO-style coaching here. That doesn't mean that CEO-style coaching can't work in general. In fact, I think there's a strong argument for a head coach who defers to his coordinators' expertise. You need good coordinators, but letting coordinators coordinate potentially frees up the head coach for other things and prevents the kinds of head coach / coordinator conflicts that sometimes get teams in trouble.
|6 weeks 11 hours ago||Definitely wasn't replying to||
Definitely wasn't replying to you. I agree with you that the marijuana rules are absurd, though I think that's an NCAA rules issue and not something that could be fixed by the university, city, or state.
|6 weeks 12 hours ago||You have no idea what else is||
You have no idea what else is going on. This just happened to make it to the public. And who the hell cares that he's a punter and a guy who's been in trouble? He shouldn't have done this? And you weren't satisfied with our 5th-year senior QB's leadership last night? And shit, if anything, this shows that the leadership of this team is holding them together and they aren't giving up, which would be incredibly understandable right now, when the national media, local media, fans, and everyone else are (also understandably) shitting all over Michigan football.
Boo this post.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||I don't keep up with this||
I don't keep up with this stuff as closely as others here, so could you say what (and whom) you're referring to with the negative recruiting? You aren't just talking about the John Wienke thing, are you?
Also, I AM GROOT.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Oh, I don't think this is||
Oh, I don't think this is new, but I don't think its prevalence makes it any less awful. If I were a college president at a school with a major athletics program, one of my agenda items for my first couple of weeks would be to communicate to the city police department, campus police department, and athletic staff that we're not doing the "protect our people" thing. I'm fine losing a couple of games or dealing with some bad newspaper headlines because some kids (or caoches) do stupid things. I'm not fine with letting athletes feel above the law, letting other people around campus (especially college girls) feel unprotected by police, and letting the coaches feel that all that matters is winning and avoiding bad newspaper headlines.
This obviously isn't a 21st-century phenomenon and it's obviously not unique to college sports. That doesn't change the fact that it could be the ugliest thing happening in college sports right now, even if that's partly because the federal government is finally putting pressure on schools to do something about it.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||I think "shit happens||
I think "shit happens everywhere" is almost always a horrible argument. Even if no one is perfect, things definitely don't happen the same way everywhere. Do you really think that the Stanford and Ole Miss football programs behave similarly with respect to rules and ethics? Fine, no one is perfect, but that doesn't mean that we should excuse the egregious offenses or not acknowledge that they're different - and worse - than the milder ones.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||In my view, there are||
In my view, there are different types of misdeeds. Players are going to do bad things. That's bad, obviously, but it's going to happen sometimes, and it happens with athletes and non-athletes alike. What's on a completely different level to me is universities and the institutions surrounding them (e.g., local police departments) protecting their athletic programs by allowing athletes and others to get away with horrible things. That's terrifying, horrible, and makes me want to hit someone. If Michigan or the Ann Arbor PD starts pulling that shit, I'm done with them.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Eh||
Fans get attached to these guys and that's okay. I personally don't feel too attached to Rich Rod. I hope he does well, but it's a passive hope and I don't really care how Arizona does. I will feel attached to Hoke, even if he ends up someplace else, and I'll cheer for his new team pretty enthusiastically.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||I thought that was handled||
I thought that was handled completely differently. When I look at the Gibbons case, I see (likely) awful behavior by football players, (clearly) awful PR management by our athletic department, and pretty good, responsible behavior by our university and police department. Bad player behavior happens sometimes, as shitty as it is, and bad PR is more stupid than evil. What's been going on with FSU, MSU, etc. feels much, much uglier and scarier to me.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Infuriating. This is the||
Infuriating. This is the side of college athletics in 2014 that pisses me off more than anything else. Players getting paid, rules against players getting paid, sponsorship for everything, all of that... none of it feels as utterly awful as this stuff does. And it's not like it's just happening in Tallahassee. I'd still love to know what the fuck happened in East Lansing with the Appling and Payne thing. And what the fuck happened in South Bend with the Lizzy Seeberg thing.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||If we're being honest, he's||
If we're being honest, he's somewhere between Ace Williams and credible. Ace Williams is a kid with no experience or access. Henson spent several years as a radio show host in Detroit (for big radio stations, including a stint as program director at WDFN, among other places), where he did get to know a few people. He's not Ace Williams. He's also not Walter Cronkite. He's been away from the Detroit area for awhile, always was a little full of it even when he was here, and has generally played the funny guy role on sports radio rather than some other role (knowledgeable insider, former player, at-least-a-little-serious analyst, etc.).
I believe him quite a bit more than I'd believe Ace Williams. I believe him much, much less than I'd believe someone like Wojo.