no, YOU'RE off topic
|8 hours 23 min ago||But what makes a school a||
But what makes a school a "smart" choice involves a lot more than which school has a higher probability of getting to a title game in the next 4-5 years. Among a million other things, the components of a smart choice could be about setting himself up for non-football life with a high-quality degree, being coached well, having an opportunity to play, being in a social setting that's healthy, having access to a support structure, etc.
|8 hours 27 min ago||I'm taking it as good news||
I'm taking it as good news that he's genuinely undecided. That's better than what seemed like the most likely alternative, which was that he's basically sold on Georgia but wanting to look around to be sure.
|1 day 5 hours ago||Your avatar scares the shit||
Your avatar scares the shit out of me.
|1 day 5 hours ago||Tennessee added another||
Tennessee added another recruit today (their 29th), a few days after telling Marques Ford that they wouldn't honor his months-old commitment because they found some dudes they like better. I wonder who gets booted next.
We should all take a moment to be grateful that we didn't hire Butch Jones.
|2 days 9 hours ago||He camped at Wisconsin before||
He camped at Wisconsin before getting the Wisconsin offer, which is probably a good sign. The only other camp appearance that 247 shows is to OSU, where he doesn't have an offer.
|2 days 9 hours ago||I have a kind of different||
I have a kind of different perspective on RB depth. RB is the one position where I really don't care about a kid's experience. If not taking an RB in 2015 makes Michigan extremely appealing to a great crop of possible 2016 RB prospects (and having one more place for an RB), then I'd be fine taking a couple in the next class and passing on RBs in 2015.
That would leave us with Green, Smith, Isaac, and Johnson in 2015, the same guys and a couple of true freshmen RBs in 2016, and Isaac, the 2016 RB class, and the 2017 RB class in 2017. That seems fine to me. We'll be relying heavily on youth if Isaac gets hurt or flops, but if you're going to rely on youth anywhere, it's at RB.
Then again, if they find an RB they really like - Booker or another guy - it's obviously a good move to take him.
|4 days 5 hours ago||Yes, we're all Marshall.||
Yes, we're all Marshall.
|4 days 7 hours ago||Handled with class. Thanks||
Handled with class.
Thanks and good luck, Justice.
|4 days 8 hours ago||That sound hard to achieve.||
That sound hard to achieve. Can someone comment on the joy of having healthy, unsuccessful kids?
|4 days 8 hours ago||So... Brady Hoke?||
So... Brady Hoke?
|4 days 8 hours ago||Derek Jeter does pretty well||
Derek Jeter does pretty well on those criteria. He was smart enough to hold off on getting married, too.
I mean, from Wikipedia:
He had a well-publicized relationship with singer Mariah Carey from 1997 to 1998. Jeter has also dated former Miss Universe Lara Dutta, singer Joy Enriquez, television personality Vanessa Minnillo, and the actresses Jordana Brewster, Jessica Biel, Minka Kelly, and Hannah Davis.
|4 days 8 hours ago||For what it's worth, ESPN||
For what it's worth, ESPN just got around to rating Ulizio. They rated him as an OT and assigned him a 78, which is a relatively high 3-star. For comparison's sake, the other OTs with 78 ratings are going to Alabama, Boston College, Stanford, Nebraska, USC, Texas, Arizona, and LSU. Jon Runyan Jr. is a 76 (as an OT).
So ESPN seems to think pretty highly of Ulizio. Then again, they could just be giving a Harbaugh/Drevno-recruited offensive lineman the benefit of the doubt.
|5 days 10 hours ago||Switch the 1970s to Led||
Switch the 1970s to Led Zeppelin and I'm on board with everything until the 2010s. I'll leave the last one to the young'uns.
|1 week 5 hours ago||This wouldn't work with an||
This wouldn't work with an even spread, but isn't this an argument for betting the underdog in Brady/Belichick Super Bowls? You're saying that these games tend to be closer than the line predicts.
Sample size problems, obviously.
|1 week 6 hours ago||From my experience, this -||
From my experience, this - "Ohioans have a Bo-like loyalty that can only come from a fandom borne under siege" - is extremely true. Men, women, older fans, younger fans.... the M fans down there are committed.
|1 week 11 hours ago||Thanks for compiling this.||
Thanks for compiling this. He certainly seems deserving of a roster spot, even if it's hard to tell what he'll ultimately do in college.
More importantly, in the context of high school football uniforms, a black and silver version of the Michigan home uniform is pretty damn cool. It looks like the numbers could use some work but damn.
|1 week 1 day ago||It's pretty crazy that this||
It's pretty crazy that this class is as small as it is, especially in a coaching transition year. My guess list is pretty similar to yours. FWIW, Lorenz just predicted John Kelly to Tennessee. We're getting a lot of Reuben Jones, Nolan Ulizio, and Jake Pickard predictions right now.
My guesses, from my most confident guess to my least confident guess:
|1 week 1 day ago||I'm confused. Why does your||
I'm confused. Why does your thread title say the opposite thing that the linked story does?
My takeaway: Belichick is a dick. News at 11. And I can remember five MGoBlog threads on this topic, which seems like at least four too many.
|1 week 1 day ago||Interesting. Can you say||
Interesting. Can you say more? I just watched his senior Hudl film, and I'm pleasantly surprised by his athleticism. Then again, to my amateur eye, he does look like he throws off his back foot too often.
|1 week 2 days ago||You know, believe it or not,||
You know, believe it or not, Fred Jackson actually was a very good recruiter for a very long time while coaching the position where recruiting ability is arguably most important.
I think it's a little sad that Jackson is getting the farewell he's getting from Michigan fans. There's a reason why 58 straight Michigan head coaches over 875 years all decided to retain Jackson. Maybe RB production has slipped a bit lately, but Jackson has done a lot over the years for Michigan football.
|1 week 2 days ago||You guys might be reading too||
You guys might be reading too much into that. Fangio, Seely, and Roman all coached under Harbaugh, and the other coaches are the guys who just hired those three. Fox hired Fangio as a Bears assistant (DC), Del Rio hired Seely as a Raiders assistant (ST coordinator), and Ryan hired Roman as a Bills assistant (OC).
|1 week 2 days ago||That's kind of my point,||
That's kind of my point, actually. Based on their 2016 offers, it seems they think the top-rated prospects really are the top prospects (deserving of their first offers). They'd probably love to get some of the top-rated prospects for 2015, too, but they're understandably - and probably wisely - focused on kids who aren't committed yet or who seem like they might realistically shake loose from their current schools in the last few weeks before NSD (e.g., because of a coaching change at their own schools).
|1 week 2 days ago||Also, it might be telling||
Also, it might be telling that most of the 2016 offers are going out to very highly rated recruits and most of the 2015 offers are going out to relatively low-rated recruits. I'm guessing that means that our coaches' evaluations are roughly in line with the recruiting rankings, but they're scrambling a bit to fill the 2015 class (with guys who look good enough and actually might be interested).
If they were offering a bunch of low-rated 2016 guys, I'd be inclined to think that they're just looking for something different from the recruiting services' criteria. That doesn't seem to be the case. They're scrambling, which is understandable, since they have so little time, so many NFL guys on staff who don't know the 2015 recruits, and so few commits in this class or prospects who recently visited and expressed interest.
|1 week 2 days ago||Pickard is definitely closer||
Pickard is definitely closer to Hill than Butt in the rankings, but the 58th-ranked TE thing might be a little misleading because the services ranked him at different positions. Here are his rankings:
Michigan is recruiting him as a TE. His other notable offers are Wisconsin, Oregon, Nebraska, and then some lower-tier power conference schools (Illinois, Purdue, Syracuse, Rutgers, BC, etc.).
|1 week 2 days ago||Well, you're really throwing||
Well, you're really throwing some Coldwater on this one, aren't you?
|1 week 3 days ago||Are you sure it wasn't the||
Are you sure it wasn't the Brothers Grimm? That quote has Wilhelm's fingerprints all over it.
|1 week 3 days ago||I think the "cupboard is||
I think the "cupboard is stocked" argument is tricky. Based on recruiting profiles (and retention), I agree that we're stocked. But I worry that our guys have been developed poorly relative to guys in other programs. Getting great raw athletes out of high school is helpful - and Hoke's staff excelled at that - but a lot of the guys on today's roster are probably behind where their recruiting profiles and experience suggest they should be. In that way, our cupboard might not be as well stocked as it seems.
This is probably more of a concern for our upperclassmen, who don't have much more time to develop, than our younger guys.
|1 week 3 days ago||Also...||
"I'm going to find out what the NCAA will legally allow me to practice tomorrow and probably exceed it," the Michigan State coach said Saturday after a 71-64 loss to Texas Southern. "That's what I'm going to try to do."
|1 week 3 days ago||Izzo is a piece of shit. How||
Izzo is a piece of shit. How a head coach can say that he was "happy as hell" to see kids get hurt is beyond me. On top of that, he (1) takes this opportunity to complain yet again about how unlucky he's been with injuries, and (2) drags Stauskas/Beilein into this by saying that Stauskas played all summer, stating that he doesn't think guys should play in the summer, and then pointing out that people might negatively recruit against coaches whose guys play too much.
There was a time when it was unpopular around here to criticize Izzo. I'm glad that time has passed.
|1 week 3 days ago||This. I get the sense that||
This. I get the sense that Harbaugh and co. are just trying to get their hands on each team's recruiting class and shake it as hard as possible to see if anyone shakes loose. I'd expect them to try it with MSU's class, though I'd be a little surprised if anything comes of it.
This staff is in a really tough position with 2015 recruiting. Harbaugh was hired about a month before signing day (during the dead period), his staff is just in place now, many of them have been in the NFL and don't have relationships with 2015 recruits, and our 2014 season fell apart so early that there's hardly anyone left in this class and hardly anyone came to visit during the season.
They should be trying everything they can, including going after rivals' commits, and it still might not get them very far with the 2015 class.
|1 week 4 days ago||I agree. If I were a coach,||
I agree. If I were a coach, I think I'd ask my recruits to tell me as soon as they're sure - and promise me that they're really sure - but then have fun with the process. "Fun" could be an ESPN hat dance, a celebratory dinner with mom and dad, or whatever. As long as I knew the deal and could plan accordingly, I'd be fine with kids doing the silly NSD hats on ESPN thing.
|1 week 4 days ago||He could always commit to the||
He could always commit to the coaches and then hold off with announcing publicly until NSD. I probably would have kept a lower profile myself, but before we criticize these kids too much, let's remember that they're young and this is a fun, one-time opportunity for them to do this stuff. I definitely didn't have cable news networks asking me to announce my college decision live on one of their broadcasts.
|1 week 5 days ago||I just read the OSU thread||
I just read the OSU thread with the Weber rumor, and I don't think there's much reason to believe the guy. He provided no details on Weber, his source, or why he'd have access to information. He probably saw something public with Weber - that Wheatley visited Weber or Weber followed Wheatley on Twitter - and figured that he'd set himself up to claim some unwarranted insider credit if it happens.
|1 week 5 days ago||That's what sh... never mind.||
That's what sh... never mind.
|1 week 6 days ago||Harbaugh’s record with QBs is||
Harbaugh’s record with QBs is undeniably excellent. After a long NFL career as a QB, he was the Oakland Raiders’ QB coach from 2002-2003, where he helped to turn Rich Gannon into the NFL MVP and the Raiders got to a Super Bowl. He spent the next three years as head coach of the University of San Diego and molded an NFL QB (Josh Johnson) at a school that produces very little NFL talent. From there he went to Stanford and turned Andrew Luck into one of the best college QBs of his generation. Then his most recent stop was with the 49ers, where he turned Alex Smith’s career around (for the better), before making something of a very young and raw Colin Kaepernick. Kaepernick sucked last year, but Harbaugh’s record with QBs is stellar.
|1 week 6 days ago||If I'm a high school QB who's||
If I'm a high school QB who's trying to get to the NFL, I don't give a damn about OSU's pre-Meyer track record with NFL QBs. I care a lot about Meyer's record and the record of his coordinators. I mean, if a 2015 QB avoids Michigan because Rodriguez QBs are better in college than the NFL, that would be damn stupid. That kid should be reading up on Harbaugh's record at USD and Stanford, along with what he's done in the NFL.
|1 week 6 days ago||I wouldn't be surprised if||
I wouldn't be surprised if it's OSU's Joe Burrow (#12 dual-threat QB; ranked #379 in the country; from Athens, OH). There has been talk that Burrow's family wasn't pleased with the Tim Beck hire at OSU, possibly because Beck was the Nebraska OC who showed little interest in Burrow. Joe Burrow's dad and brothers apparently played for Nebraska.
Here's some information about it -----
|2 weeks 3 hours ago||Hey, pal, your browser||
Hey, pal, your browser doesn't support iframes. Stop talking shit about my browser.
|2 weeks 6 hours ago||Yeah, I'd imagine this was||
Yeah, I'd imagine this was Harbaugh greeting Baxter at the airport when he moved here from CA. It'd be a little weird if Harbaugh accompanies his assistant coaches to the airport to get a "Boarding the plane!!!" photo right before a recruiting trip.
Maybe this plane is used for recruiting, but it might have just been an Operation: Harbaugh Staff kind of deal.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||If anything, that might||
If anything, that might support Auerbach's claim.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||In general, I'd evaluate them||
In general, I'd evaluate them similarly, though I'm quite a bit higher on Zordich (I'd give that an A-/B+) and lower on Jay Harbaugh (I'd give that a D/D-).
In Zordich's case, he's originally from Youngstown (birth & high school, at least), and I'm sure he had other opportunities after coaching for the Eagles but preferred to go home to YSU. I have a feeling he'll be one of our best recruiters and better position coaches.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Should we tell Jed York that||
Should we tell Jed York that Harbaugh wears a suit to say "What's up?" to some high school kids and staff?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I'm half-expecting Craft to||
I'm half-expecting Craft to come off the bench at some point today. I think he's been there since OSU started playing basketball.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Harbaugh is supposedly||
Harbaugh is supposedly talking about building an Alabama-like recruiting department (or team). My based-on-nothing guess is that he talked to Manning about a leadership position in that department if the assistant coach thing doesn't work out.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I have no idea if this is||
I have no idea if this is true, but my guess is that Michigan fans (or at least MGoBlog readers) tend to overrate Roy Manning and underappreciate Fred Jackson.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||We definitely don't need||
We definitely don't need another RB coach. I think getting Drevno some help on the OL would be nice (and maybe ideal), but if not OL, I don't think it's crazy to add another coach on the defensive side. As Mat said, you could squint and see five very good offensive coaches on this staff (Harbaugh-QB, playcalling; Drevno-OL/RGC; Fisch-WR/QB/PGC; Wheatley-RB; Baxter-TE). Then again, I'm not sure that's how they're hoping to use Baxter, since he'll have special teams and academics duties.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||He probably was happily||
He probably was happily underemployed there. Zordich was born and raised (through high school) in Youngstown. After his stint coaching with the Eagles, he probably had more prestigious options but saw value in going home to coach YSU.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Great moment in recent UM||
Great moment in recent UM basketball history. One of many.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||For the purposes of your||
For the purposes of your "told you so" post a year from now, will you be taking credit for any of the records you mention here (9-3, 10-2, 11-1)?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Come on. The blocking was||
Come on. The blocking was great, but Elliott's a damn good college RB.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I agree. This was||
This was Brian/MGoBlog at its best, and I thought it demonstrated a useful role for blogs to play in news events like these. I'm one who actually likes having big, old, high-profile newspapers around. I think they tend to be reluctant to run with really shaky information, since being embarrassingly wrong undermines the credibility of their institutions -- and they survive on that credibility. If you're running footballinsiderguy.com, you can take some shots on ridiculous information, because if you're wrong you just get a new URL or quit the blog thing and go back to your other job. If you're right, people think you're really an insider.
At the same time, it's nice to have someone who feels credible passing along that gossip before it's rock solid, especially when that gossip comes with an honest judgment of its legitimacy. And it's even better when it's from a site like MGoBlog that's established enough to want to protect its name. I thought MGoBlog did that very well here and it helped to make the search fun.*
*Also making it fun: Harbaugh.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I was going to make the exact||
I was going to make the exact same observation. I googled her before I did and decided that today's Allison Janney looks too old to actually be that woman, but maybe this is some weird past form of Allison Janney who somehow made it to Harbaugh's press conference?
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Do Harbaugh and Dougherty||
Do Harbaugh and Dougherty know each other? Is it possible that Harbaugh floated Dougherty's name as a favor to a friend who was about to be unemployed and could use the positive publicity?
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Based on what?||
Based on what?
Did you look over Michigan's faculty hirings over the end of her tenure, compare those hirings to peer schools' hirings, and walk away disappointed? Do you think the research output has been lacking lately? Are recent Michigan alumni not competing on the job market as well as they did a few years ago? Maybe UM students' final exams and papers aren't of the quality that they were in the early MSC years?
What on earth is a claim like that based on? Ranking colleges isn't like ranking college football programs. The latter is tricky. The former is damn near impossible, especially when it comes to picking up meaningful changes in the rankings over a few years.
EDIT: This was a response to a message that went bye-bye.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||That means that shit's||
That means that shit's fucked. I'm not an IT guy, but I'd recommend unfucking your shit.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Nice editing by the News.||
Nice editing by the News. After about three minutes trying to interpret the first question and the first sentence of the first answer, I quit on this.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Eisen's the best. If you||
Eisen's the best. If you can't hide your rooting interest, you'd might as well have fun with it.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||alum96, you're a machine. I||
alum96, you're a machine. I really enjoy reading your stuff and can't believe how plentiful it is.
|3 weeks 4 hours ago||True, but the real worry is||
True, but the real worry is about how the exceptions behave. And MSU definitely has some exceptions.
|3 weeks 4 hours ago||ahem|
|3 weeks 6 hours ago||I think that happened the||
I think that happened the night of the 2010 Iron Bowl (which was a late afternoon game).
Still, I'm open to the idea of an MSU night game, but we'd need a serious police presence that night.
|3 weeks 6 hours ago||Keep recruiting like this and||
Keep recruiting like this and Alabama will be really good at football one day. Saban just might be building something there.
|3 weeks 6 hours ago||Okay, I thought you were||
Okay, I thought you were making a stronger claim than that. Personally, I think it makes more sense to evaluate a hire in the context of the other hires than in isolation. For example, I'd be complaining right now if we hired another RB coach / running game coordinator type (assuming that we also get Wheatley).
As for Fisch's credentials, I just made this argument in another thread, but I basically have no idea how to apportion credit and blame for past teams' performance to an individual coach. I rely much more on the opportunities that a guy has received as an indication of what people who see and know much more than I do - college/NFL head coaches - believe about the guy. And in that respect, I'm happy to see that the Jags poached him from Miami to be an NFL OC.
It's not my favorite hire, but I definitely don't hate it, and he's more than qualified for the position he'll occupy.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||That's a ridiculous||
That's a ridiculous overstatement.
Our offensive coaching staff has Harbaugh (a stellar QB coach and seemingly good playcaller / game manager), Drevno (a stellar OL coach and likely good run game manager), Wheatley (an NFL-level RB coach), and potentially Baxter (who has coached TEs for much of his career). It lacks someone to develop the WRs, help Harbaugh with the QBs, and help to manage the passing game more generally. Fisch was an NFL offensive coordinator a month ago, and one who was successful enough coordinating Miami's offense that the Jaguars hired him away.
You're right that he doesn't look like the type of NFL coordinator who's about to head NFL head coaching calls, but he's moving from an NFL coordinator job to a college position coach job... at a position where this staff is a little lacking. We could probably come up with more ideal candidates, but it's far from an awful hire on paper. I share Brian's take on this: "I'd be leery of Fisch as a coordinator since his track record is a little short and uneven. As the kind of sort of third OC behind Harbaugh and Drevno and a WR coach, it's a good get."
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||?||
Lots of questions here.
Does Harbaugh have any connections to Fisch? And haven't we been getting regular reports of interviews over the past couple of weeks? And shouldn't we be generally pleased that Harbaugh is bringing in guys that he believes are good coaches who work well with him? And does it really bother you that guys like Durkin, Mattison, Baxter, and Wheatley technically weren't employed when Michigan got them?
Remember that most of these guys are position coaches. This is often the kind of thing where the head coach hires a bunch of MAC guys and no one really cares because no one's really paying attention.
|3 weeks 9 hours ago||24/7's Clint Brewster, who||
24/7's Clint Brewster, who knows Fisch personally (b/c Clint is Tim Brewster's son and Fisch coached under Brewster at Minnesota), broke the story of this hiring and has said that FIsch will be QB coach, WR coach, and passing game coordinator. (Still, I'm sure that Harbaugh will be involved as well.)
|3 weeks 9 hours ago||This could go on forever, but||
This could go on forever, but if I'm being honest, I think it's almost impossible for us to tell from afar how good coaches are at developing talent at their positions. Some of the outliers seem pretty clear (e.g., I think Baxter knows something about special teams), but there's so much going on for any single position group on any single team that it's really hard to confidently credit/blame a particular coach for any of it.
How much credit does Nuss deserve for Locker or McCarron as opposed to how much of that credit goes to the players themselves, their head coaches, good fortune, OL/WR play, the running game, or anything else? Who the hell knows? And how much blame does Nuss deserve for Gardner as opposed to how much of that blame goes to transition costs (not having enough time), Gardner himself, OL problems, WR problems, bad luck, negativity surrounding the program, or anything else? No idea.
This is the kind of stuff that's fun to talk about in January when a staff is coming together, but if we're being honest with ourselves, we have very little to go on. I tend to trust guys' career trajectories as some kind of indication of how they're performing, since that reflects what people who see and know a lot more than I do think of them (e.g., when the Jags saw enough in Fisch to take him from Miami). With Nuss, the fact that he was hired at Alabama and Florida says something, though Saban's supposed lukewarm feelings about him might say something in the other direction.
|3 weeks 10 hours ago||Sorry, but there's no way||
Sorry, but there's no way that Manning's credentials as a DB coach are more impressive than Jackson's. I think Mallory is a MAC-level (or Wyoming-level) coach, and I'm guessing that we'll see another coach supporting Jackson there.
I think that people here don't appreciate Fred Jackson as much as they should, but he's obviously not in the prime of his career, and he's being replaced by an NFL RB coach (and not one who was fired or disgraced or anything... one who should still have a job in the NFL today). At the very least that's in the "ambiguous" category, and I don't it's a stretch at all to call that an upgrade.
And last I checked, Harbaugh is a member of the Michigan coaching staff, so I'm not sure why that wouldn't be part of the discussion of staff improvements.
|3 weeks 10 hours ago||That's fair, and I'm trying||
That's fair, and I'm trying to be conservative, but Nussmeier's record with QBs prior to 2014 was outstanding. Better than Fisch's record with QBs, for sure, and not that different from Harbaugh's. Since we don't really know how the QB coaching duties will be shared by Fisch and Harbaugh, I think it's fair to call that change ambiguous. Obviously, though, I'm expecting better QB coaching in the coming years than we've had recently (especially pre-Nuss).
|3 weeks 11 hours ago||+1, because I think it's a||
+1, because I think it's a fair observation, but look across the board at our coaching staff changes:
HC: Hoke ---> Harbaugh (major upgrade)
I'm sure that people could quibble with a few of those, but in general, this staff is much stronger than the previous one. That should be even more true when the last couple of pieces are added, since I'd imagine we'll see at least one hire on the defensive side who strengthens one or more of those position groups.
|3 weeks 22 hours ago||Some comfort, 2015||
Some comfort, 2015 style:
|3 weeks 22 hours ago||If there were a television||
If there were a television show that consisted only of MSU students/grads trying to define "irony," I'd watch it religiously.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Okay, reading through the||
Okay, reading through the comments, I think Harbaugh is spoiling us a bit. We're talking about a recent NFL coordinator moving back to college to essentially become a position coach (at a place where he has no ties). We're obviously not going to get Adam Gase and Dan Quinn right now. We're a college program.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||This is the explanation that||
This is the explanation that I heard, too.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I'd be shocked if Harbaugh||
I'd be shocked if Harbaugh hired Dougherty, Fisch, and a TE guy. One of those jobs will go to the defensive side. If need be, Baxter could coach the TEs and special teams. He's done it for years.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||That Clint Copenhaver thing||
That Clint Copenhaver thing is great.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||No, it doesn't. Rivalries||
No, it doesn't. Rivalries are one of the main things that make college sports fun. I hope that OSU roots against us, and no part of me would judge them for that.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||True, but to be fair, I'm||
True, but to be fair, I'm about to put thousands of hours into reading about the thousands of hours of work he's putting into it.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Misleading. I'm sure that he||
Misleading. I'm sure that he followed his "I'm going to be rooting for Ohio State" with a quick "to poop in its pants and lose by 70" under his breath.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Do you have a good sense of||
Do you have a good sense of what associate HC really means? I don't. Is it just a title (or an indication that the guy is being groomed to be a future HC)? Does it carry real coaching responsibilities?
As for Manning as a possible recruiting coordinator, that's really a wild guess. But I'm suggesting that not because I think he needs a promotion to be convinced to stay, but because it seems like that role might better align his talents with his position. If we add that Tom Sims guy, I could see Sims, Mattison, and Durkin being more than enough to handle the DLs/LBs, which would let Manning focus on recruiting and pitching in where needed on the defense.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Another terrific hire.Here||
Another terrific hire.
Here are a few wild guesses from me. I say Dougherty becomes WR coach and (de facto / official) pass game coordinator, which was his role under Sarkisian at Washington. Drevno becomes the OL coach and (de facto / official) run game coordinator. Wheatley takes RB coach and associate head coach, which gives him a better title than he had in Buffalo to compensate for the NFL-to-college jump. I wouldn't be surprised if Baxter does special teams and tight ends, which he's done for most of his career. Then maybe Manning takes a shared recruiting coordinator and OLB-DE / jack-of-all-trades role on defense.
That leaves one spot. No idea where that goes. Maybe that's a best coach/recruiter available kind of position.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Does that include the gurus||
Does that include the gurus who evaluate talent for USC, Alabama, Oregon, UCLA, Florida, Florida State, Nebraska, Auburn, Penn State, Wisconsin, and about half of the other major football programs in America, all of which offered him a scholarship?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I love this hire. For years I||
I love this hire. For years I thought of VA Tech and Fresno State as the two programs with killer special teams that I wish we had here. If he can be nearly as successful here then that's well worth a spot on the coaching staff.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||I love that Raptors clip,||
I love that Raptors clip, too. In fairness, though, where you say, "We stuck a real, almost certainly woefully underpaid human being into inflatable dinosaur costume with a comically oversized head on rollerblades and expected it to turn out not like that," isn't that exactly how we hoped and expected it would turn out?
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Should I feel bad (or good)||
Should I feel bad (or good) that I've never heard of Red Robin?
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Shit, I feel honored just to||
Shit, I feel honored just to have been the first person to upvote this. I even googled it to see if it's a thing. Nice work.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||This isn't quite right. We||
This isn't quite right. We did get Jim Harbaugh because he's a Michigan guy. We would have wanted him whether he went to Michigan or not, but he probably wouldn't have been interested in us if he hadn't gone to Michigan. It's not like Harbaugh was a hot name in the Florida or Nebraska search.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Maybe there'd be a good||
Maybe there'd be a good non-coaching staff position for him, but he's probably more valuable to us as a UM-friendly Cass Tech coach than he would be on our actual staff.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||A grad transfer actually||
A grad transfer actually would be good for Malzone. If the transfer QB wins the starting job in 2015, then that prevents Morris (or Speight) from being the incumbent starter going into 2016. That would make the 2016 QB competition more open, which Malzone should want.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||I doubt that. Holding the||
I doubt that. Holding the rights to Harbaugh isn't just valuable to the 49ers because there's trade value (and I'd imagine that value is still there). It also gives them veto power over where he goes. When you're firing one of the best coaches in football over personality conflicts, preserving that veto power is important, because you know there's a good chance that his next team succeeds and makes you look bad.
If this is true - and it'd be nice to have more than an unsourced tweet - then I think it strongly suggests that Harbaugh told the 49ers he's leaving the NFL.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Taking this one step further,||
Taking this one step further, with coaches' egos being what they are, it wouldn't surprise me if most of them want to see their new teams give up a lot in return just as a visible demonstration of the coach's value.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||All I know is that my iPhone||
All I know is that my iPhone autocorrect now changes words spelled in the general proximity of Harbaugh to "Harbaugh." Pretty soon I'll have used that word in so many texts that Apple will change every word to Harbaugh, just assuming (/knowing) that's what I mean.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Has Jason La Canfora really||
Has Jason La Canfora really reached initials status for a thread title? I had no damn idea who or what JLC is.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Muppet banner?||
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Somehow, even the glasses||
Somehow, even the glasses inspire confidence.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Then why are we not sharing||
Then why are we not sharing this? Credibility issue? Paywall? Something else?
|5 weeks 6 days ago||You aren't very good at||
You aren't very good at measuring penises?
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Don't feel bad. I'm so old||
Don't feel bad. I'm so old that mine came via horse and stagecoach. I was living out west at the time, and many great men and horses were lost as they braved the Rockies during that hard, hard winter to bring Mother and me the good news.
|6 weeks 3 hours ago||I'm confused. Which part||
I'm confused. Which part isn't true? Or is he saying the whole thing isn't true? And if he is saying that, how the hell would he know? Did he call Verizon (or North Korea) and get phone records?
|6 weeks 6 hours ago||Not to mention the tweets to||
Not to mention the tweets to recruits that they should totally go to Michigan.
|6 weeks 7 hours ago||You say this as if there's a||
You say this as if there's a quiet intelligence to him when he's not talking.
|6 weeks 7 hours ago||FUCK YOU||
|6 weeks 8 hours ago||I might have posted this||
I might have posted this earlier, but I love how Ace Williams stories have been around for like seven years and we've assumed he's a high school kid the whole time. Then again, if it'll take anyone that long to get through high school, it's probably Ace Williams.
|6 weeks 11 hours ago||The site is obviously||
The site is obviously garbage, but haven't we been saying that guy's a high school kid for like seven years now? It's like he's one of the Simpsons: does not age.
|6 weeks 23 hours ago||False. People had it||
False. People had it backwards. It's 48 years for $6 million, not 6 years for $48 million.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah, I'm not buying it||
Yeah, I'm not buying it either. Hopefully most of the sources feeding Brian and the other Michigan media positive Harbaugh news look more credible than this guy.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Michigan hate sells.||
Michigan hate sells. Honestly. If you write a scathing article about how MSU sucks, cheats, etc., no one will read it, because no one gives a shit. On the other hand, people eat up those kinds of stories about Michigan, Notre Dame, USC, Texas, and a few other schools. You can make a career off of attacking a school like Michigan, especially if you have the added credibility of being an alumnus.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||The national media has been||
The national media has been an absolute joke with this, almost to a man. Take a look at si.com right now. There are two stories. This might be the dumbest thing written so far about this search. And yet it's appearing just a few headlines under this, which offers a clear explanation of why the "MUST READ" J.P. Scott story is dumb as hell.
We've gotten really good coverage throughout this search from our Ann Arbor-based UM media. The Detroit media has been pretty slow and quiet; the rest of the media has been shit.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||I think the incentive for||
I think the incentive for Harbaugh to keep Michigan around for his NFL negotations is even stronger than that. Let's say that Harbaugh wants to go to the Raiders and the 49ers really want compensation for Harbaugh.
JH: Trade me to the Raiders.
49ers: No. You can go to the Jets, Bears, or Falcons. They're all offering way more than the Raiders. We won't sign off on a Raiders trade, because you're worth more than that.
JH: Okay, then I'm going to Michigan and you get nothing.
49ers: Fine, asshole, Raiders it is.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||For a Plan B...||
Jack Harbaugh >>>>>> Schiano
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Here's mine: Miles is the||
Miles is the actual fallback plan. He knows that and he's okay with it, partly because Hackett is being honest with him (and partly because of course he's a backup plan to Harbaugh). Hackett told him that things with Harbaugh look promising. Miles knew he'd be asked about at his press conference and didn't want to get hammered by follow-up questions... on camera... so he issued a firm-seeming "not happening" that no one will ever see.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||I don't think there's much||
I don't think there's much reason to believe that Michigan doesn't have a backup plan. Just that the backup plan isn't known to us.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||That might be the weirdest||
That might be the weirdest rumor yet.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Lol. That's more like it.||
Lol. That's more like it.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||TennBlue, your services are||
TennBlue, your services are needed here.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Also recommended (and||
Also recommended (and referenced in the Grantland piece) -
|6 weeks 2 days ago||I've literally never seen a||
I've literally never seen a post as out of character for the poster as this one. Is there sarcasm here? Aren't you the guy who complains when people express sympathy for the victims of shootings and natural disasters?
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Can you say more about the||
Can you say more about the negative backroom chatter?
|6 weeks 2 days ago||I think Hoke is such a decent||
I think Hoke is such a decent guy that he might do it, but I would hope that no one asks him to. His removal has been handled pretty respectfully so far and there's no reason to change that.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||So the OP contains a link to||
So the OP contains a link to a tweet and a single sentence, and the content of that tweet directly contradicts the content of that sentence. Nice.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||If you're starting a thread||
If you're starting a thread to report rumors, how about you at least tell us where you're getting the rumors?
|6 weeks 3 days ago||It's different. Harbaugh has||
It's different. Harbaugh has established himself as an extremely desirable head coach, so he doesn't have anywhere to climb at this point, and he's sure to make a shitload of money wherever he goes. Wheatley's not there yet. Going back to college as an RB coach would be an extremely risky, bold move. It's not out of the question - for one, who knows about his job status and happiness with the Bills - but that would be a very different situation from Harbaugh's. If we get Wheatley, it likely involves some kind of title that's a step up from RB coach.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||I'm pretty confident that||
I'm pretty confident that we're going to get Harbaugh. I'm extremely confident that Jeff Moss is a giant d-bag.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||In addition to the obviously||
In addition to the obviously awesome CJK5H, I love that Mike Leach named his autobiography "Swing Your Sword."
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Not as intense as it sounds.||
Not as intense as it sounds. It's a massive bowl with a pretty small dick.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Is there a reference I'm||
Is there a reference I'm missing here? Are you Mason Cole's father? WHAT'S HAPPENING?
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Do you really think Les or||
Do you really think Les or LSU cares that much about the Music City Bowl? We're pretty clearly in Harbaugh wait-and-see mode now, unless we're also after an NFL coach or someone involved in the CFP or another big bowl. What that does mean, though, is that it gives our other targets a nice excuse to focus on their current teams while we figure out what our obvious #1 target is doing.
If Harbaugh had said no already (which I doubt) and Miles were Michigan's next choice (which I also doubt), I think we'd have already seen Miles' hiring press conference.
|7 weeks 4 hours ago||The guy on the left is really||
The guy on the left is really underrated.
|7 weeks 4 hours ago||Great news, Ace. Welcome||
Great news, Ace. Welcome back, and keep us updated about how everything is going.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Negged for not caring enough||
Negged for not caring enough about being negged.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||I disagree. One of the||
I disagree. One of the silliest things about coaching searches is that people act like it's a huge embarrassment if a couple of candidates say "no, thanks." Who cares? I'd much rather have an exhaustive search that sees a couple of people say no and then a very good candidate say yes to one that avoids the no's but produces a worse coach.
In fact, as one who was nervous about Hackett running this search, I love the way he's casting a wide net. I've been arguing that we should reach out to guys like Stoops, Malzahn, and Patterson just in case they're interested, and I wasn't expecting the AD to actually do that. I think it's the right strategy. You only need one of those guys to be interested -- and with the resources and roster that Michigan offers, it's totally possible that one excellent coach will surprise us and say yes.
EDIT: FYI, I didn't neg you. Not a fan of people downvoting reasonably stated opinions they disagree with.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Meh, they're reaching out to||
Meh, they're reaching out to a lot of guys. It makes sense to talk to Miles - and then leak it - because as more of the "Michigan reached out to __" stories come out, you don't want Miles to look like a Plan Z if he eventually becomes the coach.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I'm in the minority on this,||
I'm in the minority on this, but I really didn't like the UTL uniforms (from 2011). I think people remember them fondly because we won, but if we had lost that game, those things would be regarded as every bit as awful as the bumblebees.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Those are awesome because||
Those are awesome because they're throwbacks, and actual throwbacks are awesome, especially when they're to championship seasons. But if we step back for a second and assess things honestly... those 1989 uniforms are hideous.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||My ideal scenario is a 6-team||
My ideal scenario is a 6-team playoff with byes for #1 and #2, #6 playing @ #3 and #5 playing @ #4. That's not because there are six stand-out teams this year (I've argued for this configuration for awhile), but because it makes it a lot better to be #1/#2 than #3/#4, a lot better to be #3/#4 than #5/#6, and a lot better to be #5/#6 than #7. In other words, every regular season game for top teams would matter... a lot... and the top teams would be rewarded.
Unfortunately, I think we'll always have a situation where the total number of teams is 2^x and x is a whole number. In other words, they wouldn't stop at 6 when they could easily go to 8 (and rake in those dollars), and they wouldn't stop at 12 when they could easily go to 16 (and rake in those dollars).
|7 weeks 4 days ago||If there's something||
If there's something noteworthy about this, it's that he isn't even pretending to want to return to SF next year. I have no idea whether Harbaugh is coming to Michigan. I'm damn sure he's going somewhere.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I agree. A little schematic||
I agree. A little schematic diversity is okay, but it should come after the offense gets the basics of a single system down - and definitely not in the first couple of seasons with a new coach. The last thing we need is a coach/OC who brings a schedule like this into his 2015 spring practices with the offense:
Week 1: Air Raid
The really good offenses today are the ones that do the thing they do incredibly well. I'm a little agnostic about which offense to run, since I think that how well someone runs his offense (and gets the right personnel for it) generally makes a bigger difference than which offense he runs.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||That's not what it's going to||
That's not what it's going to be. He's gonna get far more questions about the Raiders job than the Michigan job. Remember that this is the Bay Area media, the 49ers and Raiders are a rivalry-type thing, and today's talk has been that there's possible mutual interest between Harbaugh and the Raiders.
I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get asked about Michigan - or maybe gets one question about it among a half-dozen questions about the Raiders job.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Please don't be Jim||
Please don't be Jim Hackett.
Please don't be Jim Hackett.
Please don't be Jim Hackett.
Please don't be Jim Hackett.
Please don't be Jim Hackett.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Did a different guy write||
Did a different guy write your first and second paragraphs? How do those two thoughts fit together?
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Hey man, our football team||
Hey man, our football team missed a bowl game again and we're waiting to see whether OSU makes the CFP, we saw our basketball team lose to a school called NJIT yesterday, and one of our most beloved insiders is threatening us with names like Schiano. We're fragile right now.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||No, not even close.||
No, not even close.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Twitter is not a source of||
Twitter is not a source of information. It is a tool that people use to communicate. Saying that a rumor's source is Twitter is like saying that its source is people's faces.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||In this case, that's not||
In this case, that's not really fair. This is coming from an SI writer who claims to be getting his information from a "well-known current head coach" who is connected to Payton. This is probably a move for contract negotiation leverage, if anything, but these kinds of things are definitely fair game for threads. Unlikely as it is, it'd be a pretty damn interesting hire.
I agree with you when it comes to threads about some guy with no information saying he thinks that Coach X is/isn't coming.
|8 weeks 3 hours ago||I'm confused. Are you also||
I'm confused. Are you also Nitro? If you are, who were you before you were Nitro? With 16,000 points, I'm assuming that you switched names at some point.
|8 weeks 4 hours ago||I hardly have any idea what's||
I hardly have any idea what's going on in this thread - I'm too dumb or old or something - but I doubt this. This looks to me like Cowherd got duped, which he realizes now, but he's too much of child to fess up to that and is going with the "LOL, got ya!!!!" story.
|8 weeks 6 hours ago||Eh, the NFL is very different||
Eh, the NFL is very different from college. It's rare that coaches stay in one place for more than a few years, and you don't have to worry about other coaches telling your recruits that you'll be gone before they graduate.
Harbaugh was a great hire, but this could have been a good one, too.
|8 weeks 7 hours ago||Oh, excellent. So now Carr||
Oh, excellent. So now Carr is a backstabbing, petty, senile racist.
Seriously, have you ever read or heard anything that people who know Carr well say about him? Almost everyone who knows him - including black people! - says that he's a terrific mentor, role model, and person. I don't know Lloyd personally, but I know a couple of people who do, and they talk about him as one of the most decent people they know.
|8 weeks 8 hours ago||Interventional urology? I'm||
Interventional urology? I'm imagining a friend approaching me with a concerned look and saying, "Look, man, I really need to take a look at your penis."
|8 weeks 8 hours ago||I love that in this day and||
I love that in this day and age I stop to assess the credibility of a guy whose name is BlueCheez and who's primary argument that we should believe him is that he's never started a thread before.
I think it's possible that this is true, and I've been surprised that Pinkel's name hasn't come up at all. It would be a C/C+ hire to me. Pinkell's fine, but he's old and there's not enough that's exciting about him to forgive his age.
|8 weeks 8 hours ago||It's totally possible that||
It's totally possible that I'm just looking for good signs at this point, but telling players this seems plainly stupid unless you're really confident that you know who you're hiring (and want to prevent transfers over Christmas) and Hackett doesn't seem that stupid. If true, I think this could be another subtle, slighly positive sign that Harbaugh is likely.
|8 weeks 8 hours ago||I just posted this in another||
I just posted this in another thread, but I think a much more reasonable interpretation of Carr's comments (than the conspiracy theories) is that he's trying to communicate to former players who trust him that he's behind Harbaugh and willing to forgive Harbaugh for his comments about Michigan football players' academics. Those comments probably upset a lot of guys at the time, and I could see this being Carr's attempt to pitch in by getting everyone on the same page and quelling internal resistance.
|8 weeks 9 hours ago||I'm feeling more confident||
I'm feeling more confident about this, which will make the disappointment that much more bitter when it doesn't happen.
It feels like Hackett and others involved like Griese are trying to instill patience in everyone for a careful, multi-week search process (example: "swimming lanes"). That's a good approach regardless of whether Harbaugh's a serious possibility, but it's also notably different from how Florida, Nebraska, etc. are conducting their coaching searches and it's consistent with the possibility that we need to wait out the 49ers season. The talk of Hackett working through the 49ers sounded to me like it was about timing --- getting Harbaugh out of SF soon in a way that's okay with everyone. But probably most of all, I think Carr's words mean something. He just never does that. My best guess is that Carr's signaling to former players who trust him that there's no reason to worry about / interfere with Harbaugh, even if they once felt hurt by his comments about Michigan football players' academics (and maybe simultaneously implying that there are more serious concerns about Miles). And more generally, if it's true that Carr has been talking to Harbaugh, I just can't see him getting people's hopes up like that if he didn't think that Harbaugh is seriously interested.
Even if the evidence that Harbaugh's coming isn't all that solid, I just don't any signs that we're moving on or that Harbaugh isn't interested. No adament denials from Harbaugh, no "it takes two to tango" messages from people involved in this, no indications of timelines that wouldn't work for Harbaugh, etc.
I don't know. I'm much more optimistic about this than I was a week ago. That makes me nervous.
|8 weeks 9 hours ago||If he comes to Michigan, I'll||
If he comes to Michigan, I'll be seriously disappointed if he doesn't continue to wear #109.
|8 weeks 9 hours ago||To be fair, that's better||
To be fair, that's better than my sources, who just send me links to espn.com articles.
|8 weeks 10 hours ago||Depends. Would he run his||
Depends. Would he run his Old Testament offense or his New Testament offense?
|8 weeks 20 hours ago||This blog is at its worst||
This blog is at its worst when the topic of conversation is Lloyd Carr or Rich Rodriguez. Almost any thread about either guy ends up loaded with craziness, nastiness, and dead horse beatings.
|8 weeks 20 hours ago||As batshit crazy as the Carr||
As batshit crazy as the Carr conspiracy theorists on this site are, I think Lloyd might have intended this partly as a shot at Miles. It seems pretty clear that Lloyd doesn't like Miles. The conspiracy theorist interpretation of this seems to be that Lloyd hates Miles because Lloyd is insanely petty and can't get over a decades-old personal conflict with Miles, Lloyd secretly hates Michigan, or Lloyd only looks after himself and his friends.
It's entirely possible, though, that Lloyd knows a lot more about Miles' character than we do. I mean, most of us sense that Miles is probably sleazy. If Lloyd knows that Miles is undoubtedly a dirty, dishonest, sleazy asshole, then I want Lloyd communicating that to our AD (maybe even more subtly than this), because that's not a guy we want running our football program. And then I want an AD who's smart, strong, and independent enough to consider that information reasonably and make his own decisions.
|8 weeks 21 hours ago||Sorry, what I wrote is||
Sorry, what I wrote is confusing (too many Jims). With the second statement I meant that Harbaugh will have a lot of good options to choose from.
|8 weeks 21 hours ago||This is probably dumb, but is||
This is probably dumb, but is it a good sign that Carr said, "If I had a choice, I would choose Jim Harbaugh, but it will be Jim Hackett's decision"? I mean, Carr supposedly has been in touch with Harbaugh, and that's a very different comment from, "If I had a choice, I would choose Jim Harbaugh, but Jim will have a lot of great opportunities to choose from."
That's dumb and I'm reading too much into that, right?
|8 weeks 21 hours ago||Come on, this is easy to say||
Come on, this is easy to say in hindsight, but Scott Loeffler has a really good record as QB coach. I mean, he's 40 years old and his Wikipedia page includes this line:
Loeffler was the college quarterbacks coach to future NFL Draft picks Tom Brady, Tim Tebow, Brian Griese, Chad Henne, Drew Henson, John Navarre, and Logan Thomas. The players have started over 300 regular-season NFL games and garnered a combined four Super Bowl rings as pros.
Harbaugh probably would have been a better hire, but if we're being fair it's hard to complain about Carr hiring Loeffler.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||You shut your whore mouth.||
You shut your whore mouth.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah, I'd be happy to see||
Yeah, I'd be happy to see that section of the "Profiles" posts die after this first round.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||This is the main reason to||
This is the main reason to believe there's a massive gulf between Harbaugh and Mullen. Harbaugh built a lasting powerhouse out of nothing at Stanford. Mullen has built a decent program with an excellent season out of nothing at MSU. I just wish we had more data on Mullen. Did it take time to build up to this, and they're just plain good now, or has this been a fluky good season with a veteran roster (after being 2-21 vs. ranked teams before this year)? Was his brain-farting his way through game management decisions in the biggest game of his career (vs. Alabama this year) just a forgivable outlier? What about whatever happened against Ole Miss?
But the question isn't Harbaugh vs. Mullen; it's Mullen vs. the field. If the field is guys like Butch Jones, Todd Graham, and Greg Schiano - and even Les Miles - then give me Mullen and I'm very happy. If the field includes a guy like Gary Patterson or Bob Stoops or Gus Malzahn, then there's no way I'd hire Mullen.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||When Cowherd says "no one is||
When Cowherd says "no one is talking about this guy" (or whatever), I'm sure he doesn't mean that no one on MGoBlog has mentioned the guy. He's a national radio host who hears only the most superficial conversations about this stuff.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||I don't care about the Debord||
I don't care about the Debord thing, but I am curious what the footballscoop.com guy said. Care to summarize?
|8 weeks 1 day ago||I'll take care of it for you||
I'll take care of it for you today.
We're hiring Gary Pinkel, Colin Cowherd will be the AD, and we've traded Jabrill Peppers and $72 million to the 49ers so that Ross can have Harbaugh with the Dolphins.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||If anything, I feel less of a||
If anything, I feel less of a sense of urgency now that Florida and Nebraska are set. There's a recruiting timeline, yes, but I care much more about getting this right than I care about this (fortunately small) recruiting class. It's nice that the main college competitors are now, what, Kansas (for now), Oregon State, and Colorado State? And then Tulsa?
Hackett should take as long as he needs to get the best guy possible.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||The higher ups in the office||
The higher ups in the office said that our boss (big Michigan alum and donor...his name is on one of the academic buildings...) is pushing for Gary Pinkel to be the next Michigan coach. Now, I don't know how these things work, but I know he cuts Michigan a hefty, hefty annual check and at least has a seat at the table.
I'm betting it's Mr. Modern Languages who can't keep his mouth shut.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||It's in Hackett's interests||
It's in Hackett's interests to communicate to Michigan fans that he's being bold, creative, and aggressive in pursuing Harbaugh, even if he thinks there's no chance that Harbaugh comes.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||He's probably worried about||
He's probably worried about surface-to-air missiles if he flies anywhere near Greg Schiano.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||If Stoops is actually||
If Stoops is actually interested, I think he's the one guy you sign without waiting for a firm answer from Harbaugh.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||I wouldn't worry about guys||
I wouldn't worry about guys who know nothing and don't cover Michigan betting on Schiano to get the job mainly because he was offered the job seven years (and two athletic directors) ago.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||This kid has serious "fan||
This kid has serious "fan favorite" potential for sticking with us through all of this. The same goes for the rest of the recruits who stay on board despite having other opportunities.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||I'd imagine it's||
I'd imagine it's contract-related, but there's also a believability side in our case. There's no way that Hoke would voluntarily leave this job right now. For DB, though, it's conceivable that life got so unpleasant for him at the end that he would say, "Okay, my being here isn't good for anyone, including myself."
|8 weeks 2 days ago||There are a lot of||
There are a lot of assumptions required to believe that rumor. The Rivals mods have to somehow know something, the coach has to be genuinely interested and not just seeking a raise, there has to be reciprocated interest from Michigan, etc.
If it is true, then it's best for us if the name doesn't get out. We're in waiting mode for Harbaugh right now, unless we can get a clear, believable signal from him. There's no better way to kill a good candidate than by forcing him to spend the next month denying that he's interested in Michigan. See: Miles in 2007.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Still, these are a lot less||
Still, these are a lot less dumb than what The Sporting News came up with:
Mock odds for next HC of Michigan
Les Miles 5/1
Greg Schiano 8/1
David Shaw 10/1
Jim Harbaugh 15/1
John Harbaugh 20/1
P.J. Fleck 25/1
Butch Jones 25/1
Lane Kiffin 25/1
Gary Patterson 50/1
Bob Stoops 50/1
Kevin Sumlin 50/1
Bo Pelini 50/1
Jim McElwain 75/1
Greg Roman 100/1
Mike Gundy 150/1
Cam Cameron 200/1
Tyrone Wheatley 500/1
Dan Mullen 750-1
Mike Shanahan 1000-1
Mullen at 750/1 while Shaw is 10/1, Fleck is 25/1, and Kiffin is 25/1? Right. Nice work there, SN.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||So Bovada has Harbaugh||
So Bovada has Harbaugh (+200), Miles (+250), Butch Jones (+350), Mike Gundy (+350), and Greg Schiano (+450).
Personally, I'd flip Miles and Harbaugh, put a lot more space between Miles/Harbaugh and the other three guys, and have a "field" option that's also way more likely than Jones, Gundy, and Schiano.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||IMO it's good for college||
IMO it's good for college football that these types of terms are in coaches' contracts. In general, I think schools are too quick to fire coaches - and coaches are too quick to search for a better job - and these kinds of clauses provide stability by increasing the costs of movement.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||And what's your||
And what's your interpretation?
|8 weeks 3 days ago||If he wants it, there should||
If he wants it, there should be a place somewhere in the Athletic Department or football program for Hoke. I'd imagine that he's ready to go elsewhere, but it's sad to see him go.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Stop being anti-fecalic.||
Stop being anti-fecalic.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Hoke's a good man whose most||
Hoke's a good man whose most serious offense was accepting a job for which he wasn't qualified. He was too loyal to his assistants, too willing to trade on-the-field success for off-the-field success, and too wedded to the football philosophies of his heroes and mentors. Those are shortcomings for a coach at the highest level of college football, but they're not shortcomings for a person. He's not cut out for this level of coaching in this era of college football, but he'll be easy to cheer for wherever he ends up.
Go Blue, Coach Hoke, and good luck.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||I just searched, and I'm very||
I just searched, and I'm very skeptical that's real.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||"Where there is smoke there||
"Where there is smoke there is fire."
I heard that UMFanstuckinOhio has sex with farm animals.
Now there's smoke on that issue.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||The Carr conspiracy theory||
The Carr conspiracy theory stuff in this thread is so stupid.
1. Everything we've heard is that Carr isn't engaging in the coaching search.
2. Even if he were, if he knows things suggesting that Miles would be a dangerous hire, we should want him to express those things to the AD (and we should want an AD who's strong enough not to just do whatever Carr wants).
3. Today's conspiracy theorists aren't even reading the damn article. The article says that the internal disagreement is about whether Miles is serious about the position or whether he's posturing to get a raise from LSU in a way that would give us a black eye. Maybe that's a stupid thing to care about, but nothing in this story says there's an "I hate Les" crowd (just a "he's not serious about this" crowd).
|8 weeks 3 days ago||And if someone new walks in||
And if someone new walks in next year and goes 11-2, will you give Hoke credit for those wins?
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Assuming that I'm||
Assuming that I'm understanding you correctly, I have no idea what you see in common between  Rodriguez's run at Michigan and  Richt's run at Georgia, Stoops' run at Oklahoma, Gundy's run at Oklahoma State, Miles' run at LSU, and Pelini's run at Nebraska. Rodriguez seems like just as good of a coach as most of those guys, but those guys all won a lot at their schools and then became stale to their fans. That's what I'm getting at.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||I like it. Let's call it the||
I like it. Let's call it the Schiano Principle. If an organization floats Greg Schiano as a possibility when it's about to hire someone, the guy it ends up hiring will look better to everyone because he's not Greg Schiano.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||It's interesting how many||
It's interesting how many guys are being mentioned as possible movers who have been successful and seem like very good coaches to people outside their campuses, but whose fans seem to be tiring of them. Richt, Stoops, Gundy, Miles, Pelini, etc. All of those guys would be regarded as good hires for many jobs, yet it doesn't seem like their fanbases would miss them.
I think the lesson is that almost every fanbase has ridiculous expectations for its teams.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||I did the same to Njia's||
I did the same to Njia's comment. It's maybe once/month that I literally lol to something on this site, and it's always a fun moment -- and often a dumb joke that does it.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Thanks for this. I've been||
Thanks for this.
I've been basing my view on this mostly on the gap between them in almost all of the computer rankings (including FEI), but you're right that it's hard to see here. A win over K-State would obviously help Baylor there more than a win over Iowa State would help TCU, and then I think it's down to what you think about Minnesota.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||I guess I just separate||
I guess I just separate "wanting to see someone fired" and "enjoying seeing someone fired." In Brandon's case, I felt both. In Hoke's case (and RR's case), I only feel the former.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Fair point. Looking to M-W, I||
Looking to M-W, I was going for this definition of "grace" ("a controlled, polite, and pleasant way of behaving") and not this one ("a way of moving that is smooth and attractive and that is not stiff or awkward").
|8 weeks 4 days ago||TCU. If the TCU-Baylor game||
TCU. If the TCU-Baylor game had been a lopsided Baylor win - or even a road win at TCU - I might feel differently, but in my mind that win isn't enough for Baylor to overcome TCU's superior performance in the rest of its games.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||This isn't criticism... I'm||
This isn't criticism... I'm honestly curious. Is this how you expect to react to seeing Hoke fired? I want him fired, too, but I'm expecting to be sad while watching his press conference. That's not always true for me - case in point: Brandon's firing - but to me Hoke's firing will feel necessary, appropriate, good for Michigan... and totally joyless.
I'll walk away feeling like he's a good man who conducted himself gracefully in difficult circumstances, and whose worst crime was taking a dream job that he wasn't really qualified to have. (Or, more specifically, being too loyal to mediocre assistants, because in his core Hoke's just not as cutthroat as you need to be at this level of his profession.)
|8 weeks 4 days ago||I think our 2014 OL was||
I think our 2014 OL was better than I expected this year but worse than I expect for a Michigan OL. I came into this season thinking that the OL was an awful Achilles' Heel to an otherwise very talented, good team. Leaving the season, I think the OL's performance was subpar but no worse than every other position group on offense, along with the DBs.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Also Maryland at #21.||
Also Maryland at #21.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||I'm not a Miles fan, but he's||
I'm not a Miles fan, but he's far from a "nuclear option" (if, by that, you mean crappy, worst-case scenario). I mean:
For all of Miles' faults, that's pretty damn good.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Kind of fun on my end,||
Kind of fun on my end, actually. It's like being screamed at over the phone and then realizing that the guy screaming at you called the wrong number.