that is nice bonus change
|3 hours 15 min ago||What's so dumb and sad about||
What's so dumb and sad about this is that it's different from a lot of the other rivalries lost to realignment. Hoke was right -- this is really just about Notre Dame chickening out. They looked at their schedule and decided that they're willing to drop their second-biggest rival (right? after USC?) in order to slightly increase their projected win total over the next few years. It's lame. They don't have a full conference slate and they're keeping lower-profile Big Ten teams on the schedule, which is pretty clearly because they're making a bet that those games will be more winnable in the long run.
I get why Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, and Texas A&M can't play one another every year now -- they have full schedules. Notre Dame has plenty of room and just chickened out. Between this and all of the issues in South Bend over the past few years, my respect for ND has never been so lacking.
|20 hours 49 min ago||Brian, please just eat the||
Brian, please just eat the damn lemon.
That's partly about just being a good sport (and really, why the hell not?) but mostly because this is going to get really old really quickly.
|2 days 2 hours ago||I'm not going over there, but||
I'm not going over there, but it's pretty amazing that RCMB has a thread on this. Their obsession with us is adorable.
|2 days 21 hours ago||For fuck's sake, it was||
For fuck's sake, it was probably the biggest question coming out of this game, on the minds of many of us. I came just to confirm that he's okay, and I appreciate not having to dig through a bunch of other threads to find an answer. Not surprisingly at all, there's information in this thread that basically answers the question.
|3 days 20 hours ago||dumb||
|4 days 1 hour ago||I generally agree, but||
I generally agree, but remember that these are 16/17-year-old kids, many of whom have hardly left their hometown, and it can be scary to move across the country for college. The best move in most cases is probably to suck it up and deal with the distance, but it's not like homesickness isn't a real thing that damages some kids' college experiences.
Plus, on the mom side, it has to be hard to see your baby leave home for an entirely different state, especially if you don't have the resources to visit him or have him visit you often.
Again, the rational thing is probably just to get over this stuff, but people are human and we're talking about kids and parents making a huge decision at an emotionally heavy time in their lives.
|4 days 2 hours ago||It's two things for my||
It's two things for my family.
First is tailgating... early. We bring balls, games, TV, and enough food for about 15 meals with a group twice our size. Basically, we bring anything that seems like it could contribute to a fun, exciting pre-game.
Second is human sacrifice. We find one neighbor or friend before every home Saturday and kill him as an offering to the football gods. I wouldn't do that to my kids, obviously, but at this point none of us could imagine a home game without it.
|4 days 13 hours ago||That's amazing. I just||
That's amazing. I just watched that about a dozen times, with actual Hoke press conference video in between. Hoke's voice gets a little higher when he's answering questions. Pretty damn spot on.
|4 days 19 hours ago||Classy and mature, as always,||
Classy and mature, as always, Mr. Yost. I hope you'll continue posting here long past your 14th birthday.
|4 days 21 hours ago||To be fair, we're talking a||
To be fair, we're talking a few decades ago, and it was tough to defend the Run & Shoot.
|4 days 21 hours ago||Well, you seem to know the||
Well, you seem to know the details - somehow - better than just about everyone else right now, since you're so certain about how the blame should be distributed. Please share.
|4 days 21 hours ago||I don't think that tells us||
I don't think that tells us much. Current players can't really say, "Yeah, coach is a racist" unless they're up dealing with the aftermath of that. If no one said anything I think that would be a pretty clear sign that Sarkisian has issues, but I'm not sure that we can learn much from players defending him. Former players defending him might tell us a little more.
Hopefully Brown will share some details. If something really nasty happened, it's probably in his best interest to do so, since people will be skeptical otherwise.
|4 days 21 hours ago||I think we need to see the||
I think we need to see the details to know (i.e., see who's in the wrong). The range of possibilities is "no impact on anyone" to "all guys who don't want to play for a racist." The latter group is probably just about all guys.
|4 days 21 hours ago||On top of these other two||
On top of these other two stories, Pat Haden has been in the hospital a couple of times this week. Hopefully that's nothing serious. Best case scenario is that he's being hospitalized for regret about being a Trojan.
|4 days 22 hours ago||I love that man right up to||
I love that man right up to the line where it's weird to love a man you've never met that much. Maybe a little past that line, in fact.
|5 days 1 hour ago||lol||
My head went in the other direction. I'd be a little creeped out by the guy who jumped up and say, "Okay, coach, I'll lead. Let's get this done."
|5 days 3 hours ago||There's a sophomore WR in||
There's a sophomore WR in East St. Louis named Jeff Thomas who already has a Michigan offer. He seems like he'll be a big-time prospect, with offers already from Michigan, OSU, Florida State, Texas A&M, MSU, etc. He's one of the only offers we have out to kids in the 2017 class. 247 has him as the #20 prospect in his class in their way-too-early rankings.
|6 days 4 hours ago||Wait, it's disingenuous for||
Wait, it's disingenuous for me to call a bunch of guys who haven't even started their freshman and sophomore seasons freshmen and sophomores, yet you feel comfortable asserting that "these are juniors"? No, they're not. They're freshmen and sophomores. Redshirts exist and they exist for a reason. In fact, a large part of that reason is so that high school offensive linemen can develop their bodies so that they don't get murdered on a football field in their first few months in college.
Collectively, these guys have 32 years of eligibility at Michigan. They've used 4 of them. It's much, much too early to call these kids busts.
|6 days 5 hours ago||I'm confused. 1. This story||
1. This story isn't about academic fraud. It's about hazing.
2. Who's acting like academic fraud doesn't happen everywhere?
3. Saying that academic fraud happens everywhere like saying that all people do an occasional bad thing. Okay, fine, but that doesn't mean that we can't get upset if someone does something really bad.
|6 days 15 hours ago||The classes of the guys he||
The classes of the guys he listed (for the upcoming season):
They're offensive linemen, who take longer to develop than probably anyone else on a college football roster. In normal times, we aren't even thinking about these guys for another year or two. How about we at least let them play their freshman or sophomore seasons before we start calling them busts?
|6 days 16 hours ago||Or "Please Delete."||
Or "Please Delete."
|6 days 16 hours ago||The Lions actually have a||
The Lions actually have a pretty damn good OL right now.
|6 days 16 hours ago||My sense is that it will be||
My sense is that it will be very difficult to identify a traditional two-deep this year. Instead, I think we'll be better off guessing what happens under individual scenarios (e.g., if Magnuson goes down, then ___; if Kalis struggles, then ___). For example, if you're right about the starting five for ND, then I'd bet that Cole is the first guy off the bench if any one of those guys gets hurt. That's not to say that Cole would be second on the depth chart at each position but rather that the coaches would reshuffle in a way that put Cole at LT and moved the other guys around accordingly.
|6 days 16 hours ago||I read that as breakfast is||
I read that as breakfast is early in the day, so he couldn't even get his day rolling without the misfortune of injury. I could be wrong, but I don't see any jokes there about weight or laziness.
|6 days 17 hours ago||For me, the most mysterious,||
For me, the most mysterious, hard-to-reconcile thing about Michigan football right now is how our offensive line could have look so horribly, horribly coached (e.g., from here, "They didn't do a good job communicating or combo-blocking"), yet the then-Pittsburgh Steelers' offensive line coach sent his son to play for Darrell Funk. Sean Kugler knows way more than any of us about coaching linemen, so I'm hoping that Funk's really a good coach and that last year's mess was just a product of having so little experience on the interior or bad chemistry or distractions or something else that could plausibly be fixed pretty quickly. The alternative - that Funk is in way over his head (even if some of those other problems were there, too) - is scarier to me.
|6 days 22 hours ago||"I would do it again for||
"I would do it again for whatever kid it was, it did not have to be my nephew."
|6 days 23 hours ago||I hear that often from my||
I hear that often from my girlfriend.
|6 days 23 hours ago||(No subject)||
I like the idea of the thread, though.
|1 week 6 hours ago||It's time for you to||
It's time for you to know.
There's only one guy other than you here, rob, and that's me. I'm everyone. It's just you and me, rob. It's always been just you and me.
|1 week 12 hours ago||Isn't that just Brown Bear||
Isn't that just Brown Bear noting the tagline that was already there? I think that's the only way to explain the "I saw that too" response.
|1 week 12 hours ago||Funny you say that. I looked||
Funny you say that. I looked at my own avatar and saw some resemblance. Similar moustache, soul-piercing eyes, mysteriously difficult-to-see nose, facial expression, etc. It's interesting to see what I'd look like naked, colored in, and without my monocle.
|1 week 14 hours ago||There is, and will always be,||
There is, and will always be, only one correct answer to this question.
|1 week 22 hours ago||How could comparing the||
How could comparing the current Michigan-Appalachian State ticket prices to the recent Michigan-Appalachian State ticket prices tell me anything about the interest in Appalachian State relative to some other low-profile school?
|1 week 23 hours ago||That's a really damning||
That's a really damning opponent quote about Michigan having the worst offensive line they played all season, including in the nonconference season. Shit. Do we know which team that guy could be from (Big Ten team that beat the hell out of Gardner such that Morris came in for a few snaps)?
|1 week 23 hours ago||It's not just that. When||
It's not just that. When coaches recruit, they tell guys that the best players will play and they'll always get a fair shot. If you name your starters early - before guys have had a chance to compete and be fairly evaluated for starting spots - then you're not fulfilling that promise. And it's a totally fine promise. If Wilton Speight were secretly 2013 Peyton Manning right now, I'd want him to start.
I see nothing wrong with saying there's competition at every spot, even if Hoke knows deep down that there isn't. Plus, it's not like Gardner and the rest of the team didn't know what was going on.
|1 week 1 day ago||I think you're mostly right||
I think you're mostly right about this. Brandon didn't schedule this game to avenge the first Appalachian State loss or anything like that. He scheduled the game because it's hard to find baby seal games that generate much interest and this one can. I like the idea of getting more intriguing nonconference games, even if they're against pushover type teams, but that's when we can get a team with a great band, a service academy team, or something fun or interesting like that. The "hook" for this particular game sucks. I hate it... and yet I'll completely forget about that and enjoy the game once Saturday afternoon rolls around.
|1 week 1 day ago||I've never put together that||
I've never put together that Hoke coached that Ball State team in 2006. Back in the quaint, old days when we weren't challenged by MAC teams, that game was terrifying. It was just a couple of weeks before the 2006 OSU showdown, and Ball State gave Michigan a serious test in Ann Arbor.
|1 week 1 day ago||Honestly, the best advice I||
Honestly, the best advice I got at as an undergraduate came from an English TA who said, "Whatever the work is that needs to be done, just get your ass in a chair and do it."
|1 week 1 day ago||When Rodriguez was fired, I||
When Rodriguez was fired, I remember thinking that (1) this is the right decision and (2) if I were smart I wouldn't watch a single play, read a single word, or have a single conversation about Michigan football until about 2015 (no matter who was hired).
For me, the last few years have been about enduring the basically inevitable pain. Granted, I would have guessed that 2011 wouldn't have gone as well as it did and 2013 wouldn't have gone as poorly as it did. But when you fail as spectacularly as Michigan did with Rodriguez (no matter whose fault it was) and when those few years involved playing the least Michigan football-like football there is, a return to the familiar was inevitable and the transition was going to be rough no matter who was hired.
I think - and hope - that at most we have one more year of pain left. I actually figured that by now the first post-Rodriguez coach would get run out of town by an impatient fan base while that coach built a roster that the second post-Rodriguez coach would win with. And Hoke struck me as the right kind of transition scapegoat. He was by all accounts a good guy, so we could expect to stay clean, and he was low-profile enough that if/when he got canned it wouldn't make Michigan look like the place where good coaches come to die. Plus, it was his dream job, so at least he'd get a thrill if he was treated unfairly here. The Michigan job wasn't attractive in 2011, but with a rebuilt roster and a fan base with recalibrated expectations, I figured it'd look a lot different to prospective coaches around now.
A few years later, I've come to love Hoke as a person and a representative of the university. That's a big deal to me. I'm cheering as hard for him as I've ever cheered for a coach, and I want him to show us that he can be the guy. I think that basically means surviving this season, since the 2015 roster and schedule, at this early glance, seem drool-worthy. I don't know what surviving is, record-wise, but I know this would be a bad, bad time for a 7-6 kind of year. This season will determine what the next several look like, and damn I hope we see some wins and progress from the team and some patience and levelheadedness from the fans.
Survive and advance, Coach Hoke.
|1 week 4 days ago||I agree. In fact, I'd||
I agree. In fact, I'd probably have committed relatively soon after getting an offer from one of my favorite schools - to make sure that I had a spot - and then I'd have gone on those visits. And my visits probably would have been to places where (1) it's expensive to get, (2) the games were good, and (3) I'd have the most fun (i.e., girls). Not in that order.
I definitely can't criticize recruits for this "committed but looking" approach. I think a policy like Hoke's makes a lot of sense in this context.
|1 week 4 days ago||Whoa there. Macgarrett Kings||
Whoa there. Macgarrett Kings is a playmaker.
|1 week 4 days ago||McMillon says that he's still||
McMillon says that he's still planning an official visit to Michigan this fall. This might not be over if (1) McMillon visits and loves it and/or (2) Saban finds himself a prettier girl to take the ball.
Still, it's most likely over, so good luck to the kid.
|1 week 4 days ago||That data possibility sounds||
That data possibility sounds great. I'm really excited to play around with whatever you guys post. Big thanks to all involved in that one.
|1 week 4 days ago||If Carr had won one more of||
If Carr had won one more of those OSU games (so that his record was 7-6), would you feel entirely differently about him?
|1 week 4 days ago||That was one of my proudest||
That was one of my proudest moments as a Michigan fan. Those interviews are absurd.
Honestly, I can't think of a better, more appropriate representative of UM. Carr was smart, classy, and cantankerous, but he was cantankerous when others weren't being smart and classy. Damn straight that's Michigan.
|1 week 4 days ago||Hard to respond when you||
Hard to respond when you don't even say which word you're talking about.
|1 week 4 days ago||"Lloyd Carr numbers" (from||
"Lloyd Carr numbers" (from Wikipedia):
I'm fine with that bar, especially when you throw in that he ran a clean program and was a classy, great spokesman for the university.
|1 week 4 days ago||I loved that Calipari line.||
I loved that Calipari line. Between this and Dantonio responding to a question about DUI guy with "he's a playmaker," it's already been a good day.
|1 week 5 days ago||Please change thread title to||
Please change thread title to "De'Veon Smith understands how to talk to the media."
|1 week 5 days ago||I can't imagine Hoke would||
I can't imagine Hoke would answer this question (and he might not know), but I'd love to know what the starting OL would be right now if we had both Glasgow and Kalis available.
|1 week 5 days ago||My guess is that Michigan's||
My guess is that Michigan's rivals are more bloodthirsty with Michigan than we (and others) are with them, so there's more demand for an article making Michigan look bad than one making MSU look bad. I also think there's more self-policing among UM students, alumni, faculty, fans, etc., than among the same groups for MSU. I think - and hope - that if UM had handled the Appling/Payne incident like MSU did, the UM community itself would have been in an uproar.
|1 week 5 days ago||Wow, that's a lot of dumb in||
Wow, that's a lot of dumb in just five words. Irrelevant, sleazy, inaccurate, poorly written, ... . Congratulations.
|1 week 5 days ago||The different media coverage||
The different media coverage that UM and MSU get is hilarious. Nationally, it's a sign of one school being high-profile and the other not, but locally I don't really get it. The difference in how the Gibbons and Payne/Appling things was one example, and if Michigan had a story that even closely resembled the Bullough thing, Jim Carty and Michael Rosenberg would probably run back to their own jobs because they smelled blood and Drew Sharp would shit himself in joy.
|1 week 5 days ago||Yeah, because everyone around||
Yeah, because everyone around here was furious when Nuss was hired.
|1 week 5 days ago||I'm not weighing in on the OL||
I'm not weighing in on the OL thing, because what the hell do I know right now, but boo to burning Mo Ways' redshirt just for special teams play. I understood the need to do that a couple of years ago when we probably didn't have enough non-true-freshmen to handle special teams well. That can't be the case now, can it? Grrrr.
|1 week 5 days ago||With the NCAA being what it||
With the NCAA being what it is, I'm fully expecting a February announcement that yes, Isaac hypothetically could have played in 2014.
|1 week 6 days ago||At this point there's no||
At this point there's no doubt in my mind that I want Isaac to play this year. My reasons:
1. Right now, the best way for Michigan to make 2017 season (Isaac's possible 5th year) successful is to make the 2014 season successful. Winning now will help us in the long run -- probably more than getting that spacing in our RB depth chart.
2. My sense is that Isaac is a really good fit for this offense. My understandings of inside zone blocking and Ty Isaac the RB both could be flawed, but it seems like the best RB for inside zone is one who cuts smartly, decisively, and quickly and Isaac is the closest we have to that guy.
Plus, if they really wanted to, the coaches could still RS Green or Smith at some point over the next few years. I really doubt that will happen - it rarely does - but if the RB depth chart ever starts to look terrifying (unlikely) it's in the coaches' back pocket.
|1 week 6 days ago||I love this. I'm not sure||
I love this. I'm not sure how much we can learn from such a small sample (in such an artificial setting), but I think it's so fun to see people excited about things like this. You squeezed a lot of information out of it, too, and your analysis is interesting.
Plus, "Bo Dever is a bad motherfucker" is a fun new entry to my beliefs list.
|1 week 6 days ago||This is the only one I||
This is the only one I remember getting choked up about. For me it was his press conference after the game when he talked about telling all of his players that he loved them and thanking them because that's what leaders do.
|1 week 6 days ago||Exactly. Spirit of the||
Exactly. Spirit of the sport.
Just the thought of a woman getting the help she needs to see her son play college football disgusts me.
|1 week 6 days ago||Well, at least they look old||
Well, at least they look old enough for Silvio Berlusconi.
|1 week 6 days ago||No, it's not you. You're||
No, it's not you. You're great. It's your insatiable need to show us your wife's body. That's the weirdest thing on the board.
|1 week 6 days ago||I get that you're doing this||
I get that you're doing this is as a joke, but this close to football season, the MGoBlog thread titles are one of my primary sources of world news.
|1 week 6 days ago||They sent all employees to||
They sent all employees to Cleveland for Fingergate. There's no one left to notice this.
|2 weeks 3 hours ago||It would creep me out if I||
It would creep me out if I were Devin Gardner and I believed that I could see how I'll look for the rest of my life by doing a Google Image search for John Amos.
|2 weeks 4 hours ago||The first season's finale of||
The first season's finale of The Killing was unforgivable to me. I liked it until then, but I thought that was a huge "F U" to its viewers.
|2 weeks 4 hours ago||I was skeptical initially,||
I was skeptical initially, but I'd give so much to see Hoke run onto the field every Saturday, home and away, flipping the double-bird. That'd be the best.
|2 weeks 4 hours ago||I was wondering last night if||
I was wondering last night if Eleven Warriors would have crashed if not for all the Michigan fans who visited. Hell, I wonder if Eleven Warriors would have crashed if not for the 20 million times that I tried to visit.
|2 weeks 4 hours ago||No, but you said "told he did||
No, but you said "told he did something wrong." It's a good day for me when I can get from dawn to dusk without being told, myself, that Johnny Manziel did something wrong.
|2 weeks 15 hours ago||I really wish I were as good||
I really wish I were as good at caring about things as you are.
|2 weeks 15 hours ago||Okay, a request for full||
Okay, a request for full disclosure amid the many classy posts in this thread:
What was your honest emotional response to seeing this? I'm talking about the first thing that went through your mind/body.
If I'm honest, mine was pleasant surprise. I'm not proud of that, but any "Man, that's a shame" from me is really forced. I hope the guy has a great life... and that I never see him in an OSU uniform again.
|2 weeks 17 hours ago||Maybe we just have different||
Maybe we just have different perspectives on how awful that sucker punch was. If he tried to hit someone in his car - in order to hurt him - would you feel differently?
Personally, I can be pretty forgiving with drugs, theft, and even a DUI (since the intent isn't to hurt someone, even though the mistake is outrageously stupid). I just have a hard time forgiving a deliberate effort to badly hurt another person with another opportunity to play Michigan football. I know that fights happen - I've had those myself - but a strong-ass sucker punch to the face is, to me, a different kind of deal.
|2 weeks 17 hours ago||In most cases I'd agree, but||
In most cases I'd agree, but that was an ugly moment with clear intent to badly hurt someone (that resulted in him badly hurting someone). I hope that Hoke doesn't just cut contact with York, and I doubt he will, but some transgressions really are bad enough that they warrant showing a kid the door.
|2 weeks 18 hours ago||Oh yeah, who the hell are||
Oh yeah, who the hell are you?
|2 weeks 18 hours ago||Expect a Drew Sharp column||
Expect a Drew Sharp column tomorrow about how Michigan doesn't understand the importance of due process... four days after his column about how Michigan "doesn't understand" the "distinction between rights and privileges."
|2 weeks 18 hours ago||They can wear clown shoes for||
They can wear clown shoes for all I care if they do the job.
Helmets are one thing, but it's really hard for me to get riled up about cleats.
|2 weeks 18 hours ago||Do we know how the guy he||
Do we know how the guy he punched is doing? I assume that we'd be hearing a lot about it if the guy were in really bad shape, but I don't remember much coming out.
|2 weeks 18 hours ago||Too bad for Csont'e - and I||
Too bad for Csont'e - and I hope he learns from this and makes the most of it - but clearly the right decision by Hoke. People give him shit, but I think Hoke has handled discipline very well so far. Exhibit A is the way that Frank Clark seems to have turned his life around. Exhibit B could end up being Will Hagerup.
|2 weeks 18 hours ago||My personal highlight was his||
My personal highlight was his line that the last App State game "hastened the end of [Lloyd's] tenure in Ann Arbor." I heard as early as 2005 (from someone I think would know) that Lloyd was planning to retire after the 2007 season. Go ahead and throw shit out there as fact, though, Forde, whether it's true or not.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||In fairness to Urban, he has||
In fairness to Urban, he has a formula that he strictly adheres to with punishments. He figures out how other coaches punish the same offense, then he divides that punishment by the player's star rating, and boom there you have it.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah, I hear you, but that||
Yeah, I hear you, but that feels like a partial solution to me. There would be teams - the MSUs of the world - that look at that and say, "Okay, spread us out all you want, but we're coming after your asses." At that point we have a questionable O-line, a QB with a shaky record with decision-making (who would then have to do something very quickly), a bunch of inexperienced WRs, and young RBs who are very unproven as blockers. I'm not sure that I like the "a lot of that from us" thing from Hoke (about 2 TEs) - if that's to be believed - but if he thinks he has a non-Butt tight end who can do something, it'd be really nice to have that in the arsenal.
Just to reiterate, too, I'm not much more sold on our 3rd/4th/5th WRs than our 2nd/3rd TEs (once Butt gets back) for this particular season. I feel like we don't know much about either yet. My fingers are crossed - hard - that Williams figured out that blocking thing that he was supposed to be so good at or that Bunting is a surprisingly good blocker. We'll see. At the same time, while I think the Canteen/Ways/Harris trio is going to be awesome, I'm not sure we can realistically expect that to start in 2014. I haven't seen enough from Chesson, Jones, Dukes, or Norfleet (or Darboh, for that matter), either, to feel like we have really good, dependable options there right now. Just a lot of unknowns in my mind.
But, in general, I honestly don't think I disagree with you.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||That's a fair request for me||
That's a fair request for me to ignore you. I did just double-check your past posts, though, and they aren't exactly bundles of joy.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||In your face, weenies.||
In your face, weenies. That's what you get for giving up.
+1 for BRINGING IT STRONG
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Both here and on UMHoops,||
Both here and on UMHoops, your posts are so consistently negative and miserable-sounding. You're obviously entitled to your opinion (and tone), but it's hard for me to imagine that sports bring you much enjoyment. Maybe try to relax a little with some of these posts? Or at least wait until the team gives you a reason for misery?
|2 weeks 1 day ago||That's reasonable. I guess||
That's reasonable. I guess I'm thinking about the world after Butt's return... and one in which we might be desperate for all of the blocking help we can get. (And it's not like no one in football is having success with two TEs right now.)
As for our WRs, I'm convinced that Funchess is awesome now and that the WR corps will be awesome in the years to come. Those guys are really young, though, with very little game experience. I'm wondering if people are overrating our current WR corps a bit because of what we think these guys will be in a couple of years.
Still, the WRs are a lot closer to being awesome than the TEs are, so I'm with you.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||For Hoke, I think most of||
For Hoke, I think most of this is just about mentioning guys who are working hard and playing well (and pushing the guys who aren't). AJ Pearson? The depth chart changes so much from one presser to the next - and the guys who are talked about are so varied and broad - that I'm not sure there's much information here.
Also, why are we sighing at the prospect of two-TE sets?
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Dammit. 100 would have||
Dammit. 100 would have gotten us a free taco. Somewhere. I assume.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||One of the great things about||
One of the great things about the internet is the possibility that people claiming to be celebrities (seemingly as a joke) are actually the people they claim to be. You keep saying, "Yeah, I'm Darrell Funk," we keep saying LOL, and you keep actually being Darrell Funk.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I think it's way too early to||
I think it's way too early to say/know that about Cole. It's totally possible that he's the first guy off the bench if anyone goes down and they'll shuffle the line however they have to in order for him to be the first guy off the bench. To me, that a perfectly good reason to burn a redshirt for Appalachian State, since someone along the line will get banged up this season.
Again, though, I don't know what the plan is and I don't know what the plan should be. It seems like the insidery buzz is that Miller is clearly the best option at C and Braden is clearly the best option at RT (based on how they've been practicing). If it's true that Kalis will start - and if you figure that Magnuson goes somewhere - then there aren't too many possibilities left. My gut says that they'd put Magnuson at LT and Glasgow at LG to let Cole ease in, but I have no idea. I would be pretty surprised if the starters included anyone outside of those six guys.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I was thinking about how if||
I was thinking about how if you're the coaching staff, one of the lessons here might be that you're asking for fan panic if you have a public scrimmage and (1) your OL and DL aren't about equally matched and (2) your WRs and DBs aren't about equally matched. That's not to say they shouldn't hold these - to the contrary, this seems like it was pretty awesome - but they probably know what to expect now. Seeing it in spring is one thing. Seeing it a couple of weeks before the season freaks people out.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I just watched a few of those||
I just watched a few of those scrimmage clips from the other thread and in the small subset of plays I watched the pass protection was actually pretty good. If we have an RB problem more than anything else, it's time to hope like crazy that we have Isaac this year. My memory of his high school clips is that those kinds of fast decisions and cuts were among his primary strengths.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Do we know what the projected||
Do we know what the projected starting lineup is when Kalis returns? I think I saw a Magnuson-Glasgow-Miller-Kalis-Braden suggestion somewhere, but that was just someone posting something and that's all I've seen.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Wow, that's interesting. Do||
Wow, that's interesting. Do we know how Lewis and Countess fit in? Did both Taylor and Countess get leapfrogged?
|2 weeks 2 days ago||"Just nodding"? I'm pretty||
"Just nodding"? I'm pretty sure you aren't the only one who's concerned about our offensive line. Not sure what you've been reading lately.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Another question -- Were||
Another question -- Were there any individual o-linemen who looked particularly good or bad? I get that the line as a whole struggled, but I'm curious about the individuals.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I have to say... I disagree||
I have to say... I disagree with you on a lot of uniform things but I love that you exist and post here. You're a great fan, even if you're a great fan with awful taste in uniforms.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Questions||
A couple of questions for those of you there:
1. Do any of the O-linemen look decent/good?
2. How about the event itself? Is it a cool, worthwhile thing... much better than this year's spring game?
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I'm one of the more "be||
I'm one of the more "be patient with the coaches" guys here, but I'll start.
Fire Funk. Not now, because that would mess up the season, but fire him seven months ago. I just wrote out my reasons for being skeptical of him above, but I just don't see how he doesn't deserve A LOT of the blame for last season.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I'm so skeptical of Funk. I||
I'm so skeptical of Funk. I just can't come up with a scenario that puts anything but a lot of the blame on him for last season. Even if it was a complexity/volume of schemes problem, what are the chances that (1) he noticed the problem, (2) he told Borges and Hoke that his guys can't handle it, and (3) Borges and Hoke told him to piss off? Seems very unlikely to me. I think the experience thing is a big deal, but it doesn't justify what happened last season. That was awful despite there being two NFL tackles and some really highly recruited talent on the roster.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Easy. We're totally gonna||
Easy. We're totally gonna lose this game if you guys don't get your heads out of your phones and into the game.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||All Michigan so far.||
All Michigan so far.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Ah, thanks. I'm paranoid.||
Ah, thanks. I'm paranoid. But Schembo, if you scare me like that again, I'll tear off your penis-nose and smack you with it.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Wait, is he hurt?||
Wait, is he hurt?
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Anyone seen Kalis? Is he||
Anyone seen Kalis? Is he playing?
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I'm cheering for the ACLs||
I'm cheering for the ACLs tonight, as I do in every Michigan practice. Stay strong, boys.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I hate OSU and its players,||
I hate OSU and its players, but I don't like seeing people get hurt. I hope Braxton gets well soon... and then shits the bed in all of his games and goes 0-12 in a disastrous, miserable, memorable senior season. Beyond that, I honestly hope the rest of his life is terrific.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||That won't happen anytime||
That won't happen anytime soon in this case, since ND and Michigan are constantly comparing their W-L records. We'll make sure that no one forgets.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Why, why, why do people spell||
Why, why, why do people spell Rodriguez with a "q"? I really don't get it. Was that just a typo? Is that how you pronounce it? Is there a joke I don't get? Is it actually a "g" on some crazy keyboard?
It's so common and I don't understand it at all.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Definitely not weird. Want||
Definitely not weird. Want to see if he has video?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Honestly wondering... Do||
Do recruits go to Notre Dame because of Brian Kelly, or do they go because it's Notre Dame and despite Brian Kelly? For a lot of kids I have to think it's the latter.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Not my fault. I have a||
Not my fault. I have a slutty ghostwriter who comes up with all of my MGoBlog posts for me and she dropped the ball on this one.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Georgia & Virginia Reason:||
Georgia & Virginia
Reason: The people who put Georgia and Virginia in this thread were most convincing to me, and it's plagiarism day thanks to ND.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||In that scenario, we would||
In that scenario, we would have one Jabrill Peppers and they would have zero Jabrill Pepperses. 100% chance we win that game.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I agree, but then I also want||
I agree, but then I also want to see Michigan schedule heavyweights and I'm not really sure how to reconcile the two. I guess I want to play programs that look like heavyweights but aren't truly at that level (at least on game day). Just one more reason that it's a shame that ND is coming off of the schedule.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Argh||
Oh, for fuck's sake, can we wait to complain about this until York actually wears a Michigan uniform again? That will probably never happen, so what's the harm in letting the legal process (and whatever internal investigation) play out?
Also, you might want to reconsider what it means to be "all for due process and everything."
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Win one for the||
Win one for the prostitute-tutor?
|2 weeks 4 days ago||The responses to these||
The responses to these threads are annoying. If someone has seen something about the scrimmage but didn't want to (or think to) start a thread for it, he'll put it here. That's good. I like reading about Michigan football, especially in mid-August, and especially after a scrimmage that I couldn't see.
It actually can be an effective way of aggregating tidbits and stirring a little discussion... if the thread doesn't get unreadable because we get 50 of the same "joke."
|2 weeks 4 days ago||That's a funny observation||
That's a funny observation and there's some truth to it. We learned that we'll have a true freshman LT and that one of our would-be starters is injured and the collective reaction is basically "phew."
|2 weeks 4 days ago||This year, I actually think||
This year, I actually think we'd be doing the 2018 season a disservice by thinking about the 2018 season instead of the 2014 season. This next year or two is hugely important for the middle-term future of Michigan football. Win now and good things will follow in the coming years.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||mrkid, please stop forcing||
mrkid, please stop forcing Michigan248 to read your posts.
My view: The offensive line looks like the variable that's most relevant to determining how our 2014 football season goes. This blog is mostly about football and the football season begins in two weeks. With some new information and and link to even more information, this thread more than clears the bar for "thread-worthy."
|2 weeks 4 days ago||My guess is that we're||
My guess is that we're looking at something like what we've expected:
LT - Magnuson
Kalis had a comment in the Free Press about how he, Glasgow, and Magnuson have played a lot of football here and a lot of the shuffling right now is about getting guys ready in case a starter goes down.
At this point I think we've heard enough about Cole that he's clearly in the mix, whether it's for a starting position or a very quick jump off the bench kind of deal. I could see him being first off the bench for LT, which would explain wanting to get him a lot of playing time.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||We know.||
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I agree. That group is now||
I agree. That group is now being seen as the fringe crazies, though, rather than just one side of a reasonable two-sided argument. That's a major change since just a few years ago.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Absolutely the weirdest thing||
Absolutely the weirdest thing on this site. You're a really good poster but damn.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||The responses to these||
The responses to these stories show that we have grown as a nation. If there's a divide among people's responses today, it's that some say "that's courageous and great" and others say "who cares about people's sexual preference?" Just a few years ago that divide was between "that's great / who cares" and "this is sick/wrong/unacceptable."
|2 weeks 5 days ago||For those interested, here's||
For those interested, here's what we have scheduled now:
2014: Appalachian State, @ Notre Dame, Utah, Miami (OH)
|2 weeks 5 days ago||That's exciting, but let's||
That's exciting, but let's remember that we heard "it's gonna be big" before the UConn home-and-home was announced. And again, if I remember correctly, before Arkansas was announced.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||It'll be interesting to see||
It'll be interesting to see if it keeps up through the season. I think the logic behind that strategy is mostly psychological. If you're a ref, it's hard to throw flag after flag for interference, especially against the home team (and especially with coaches screaming at you). That's probably much easier to do in the preseason when no one really cares who wins.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||We actually do know what the||
We actually do know what the market is for that guy. There is no market for that guy. That possible Kings offer this summer was apparently as good as it got.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I agree. I think we have a||
I agree. I think we have a moderately difficult, low-variance schedule. We have three games that look really tough and nine that don't. We just don't have many games that look like true tossups.
My guess is 9-3 with one win among the three supposedly tough games and one loss among the nine supposedly easier games.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I HAVE NOT FORGIVEN YOU.||
I HAVE NOT FORGIVEN YOU.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||You mean, like the spelling||
You mean, like the spelling of Petr Klima in your damn user name?
|2 weeks 6 days ago||There's no way that we'd be||
There's no way that we'd be unranked if we went 9-3. Historically, that record puts big conference teams solidly in the top 20, and it's not like we have a crazy easy schedule.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Can we not use Ray Rice and||
Can we not use Ray Rice and the NFL as the standard for appropriate punishment?
Hoke can wait to dismiss York until the legal system does what it does with him, but there's no way that York should ever wear a Michigan uniform again.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Bye, Csont'e. Hopefully you||
Bye, Csont'e. Hopefully you have it together enough to make something positive of this.
I'm usually pretty forgiving with college kids making mistakes. That changes when its willful, serious violence directed at another human being. York shouldn't wear a Michigan uniform again almost regardless of what preceded that.
|3 weeks 2 hours ago||This was in the Free Press||
This was in the Free Press yesterday. Personally, I'd be surprised if Kalis, Glasgow, and Magnuson don't all start.
“You have to earn a position and, right now, coach (Darrell) Funk’s playing a lot of guys everywhere,” Kalis said. “Obviously, me, Graham and Erik have played a lot of football, and we’re getting our respective reps, and that’s natural. Everyone’s competing.”
Kalis said he’s not bothered by seeing other players taking first-team reps at his spot, right guard.
“Everyone needs to learn to play all the positions,” he said. “We have three guys with experience, so if one guy goes down, it’ll be easy to put guys in another position. That’s mainly what he’s trying to accomplish.”
|3 weeks 1 day ago||So to recap BiSB's message,||
So to recap BiSB's message, word-for-word:
"... Shane Morris should start ... ."
Don't shoot the messenger. BiSB said it. That's bold (crazy, I think), but you're entitled to your opinion, BiSB.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||That looks about right to me.||
That looks about right to me. I'd probably go with something like:
The OL is so important this year. We have a very nice looking roster - though it'll be even nicer next year - and then one enormous, enormous question mark.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Well written, though I'm not||
Well written, though I'm not fully with you on the arrogance/cheating thing. I've always found it obnoxious that much of the Michigan arrogance critique seems based on Michigan fans taking pride in their programs being relatively clean. Fans hate programs like Kentucky basketball and Miami football for their sleaziness, but then they resent programs like Duke basketball and (pre-Kelly) Notre Dame football for doing things the right way (and yes, being a little nauseating about it).
My belief, which is admittedly based on little evidence, is that Michigan football and basketball are considerably cleaner than most similarly high-profile programs. That's important to me. Yes, everyone breaks some rules, but the fact that "everyone does it" doesn't make me think, "Whatever, we're all dirty. Just win." Cheating a little - or almost cheating - is a lot less disgusting to me than cheating a lot. I couldn't be an Ole Miss fan right now, even if I were an alumnus, and I paused my Michigan fandom when the Fab Five stuff came out. Maybe that's arrogant, but I want my team to play by the rules - and I want other fans to want their teams to play by the rules - even if some of those rules are stupid.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I have good news and bad news||
I have good news and bad news for you.
The bad: You've gone bat-shit crazy.
The good: It happened on a Monday morning, so you got to enjoy your weekend first and have a good excuse to stay home this week.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Poggi or Tim Riggins.||
Poggi or Tim Riggins. Unclear.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||I think it matters a little||
I think it matters a little bit. I just don't think it matters nearly as much as the recruiting sites' rankings suggest.
For example, it would be hard for Michigan to keep up this average rating with a 20- or 25-person class. If you have a small class, you can be really selective with who you offer. If you have a big class, you have to be a little looser in which commitments you'll take.
Still, in general, I agree with you. The recruiting sites' algorithms value class size way too highly. It's crazy that the 247 composite rankings have UNC (3 four-stars, 12 three-stars) ahead of Michigan (8 four-stars, 1 three-star, 1 kicker) just because of class size.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Yes||
Edit: beat his ass to the punch : )
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Uniforms matter to people,||
Uniforms matter to people, especially at places like Michigan, and there's nothing wrong with that. If you think that Hoke's announcement of the OL starters on the first day of padded practice is more important, that's fine, and you should head over to that thread.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||I honestly believe those tire||
I honestly believe those tire marks are there because it's a subtle way for adidas to highlight its brand (with its famously striped logo). Look back at Michigan's alternate uniforms with adidas and you'll see a pattern. Nike might not be much better - and this is college football in 2014 - but our home uniform has become a shoe company ad.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||I would be completely, 100%||
I would be completely, 100% fine with this. But hands off the helmet and the home uniforms, Brandon.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Excellent. I've been||
Excellent. I've been thinking about how I'm thrilled with everything about our football program these days except for the home uniforms. That's the one thing that just badly needed to be fixed.
[Confession: I don't completely hate the look. I mostly hate that we're finding excuses not to wear the best uniform in American sports.]
|3 weeks 3 days ago||What a ridiculous post. It's||
What a ridiculous post. It's completely possible that there is no good 5-man OL on this roster. That can happen when you have virtually no upperclass linemen. So rather than evaluating talent, assessing chemistry, considering fit with scheme, etc., Hoke should just trot out the group that you expected because fans expected it?
Plus, this could be evidence that Cole is really, really damn good and mature.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||That's interesting. I wonder||
That's interesting. I wonder if it's because kids on the West Coast wait to visit schools until they're paid for with official visits (during their senior seasons). If you live on the West Coast, it's really expensive to pay your way for a flight to the country's primary football regions. On the other hand, if you're in the Midwest, South, or Northeast, you can pretty easily drive around those regions to see what other schools have to offer.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||I'm liking the fully||
I'm liking the fully capitalized TUF BORLAND. Subtle and respectful. Putting lower case letters in that guy's name would be blasphemous.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Your mom||
|3 weeks 4 days ago||It's probably a strategy that||
It's probably a strategy that works better at home than on the road. (MSU was on the road that week.)
I personally think it's a damn smart strategy that exploits referee psychology. It's just really hard to throw 5+ pass interference flags against the same team, especially if you're in their stadium. Might as well keep a bunch of guys in the box, interfere like crazy, dare the refs to flag you, and then have a hissy fit every time it's flagged (even though you know it's the right call). It's borderline sleazy, but it's definitely smart and it's hardly sleazy in the context of everything else that happens in college football.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||John Stockton||
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Then why are you telling us||
Then why are you telling us now?
|3 weeks 5 days ago||There's more than one||
There's more than one scoreboard with MSU. There's the scoreboard of football, which dammit. And then there's the scoreboard of life, and that game's already over.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I'm really excited about||
I'm really excited about Weber. Very nice pick-up.
I'd like to see another OL in this class. It makes me nervous to have only four OL across the 2014 and 2015 classes, especially with OL being a tough spot to project and a couple of our 2014/2015 guys being either under-the-radar (Runyan) or boom/bust types (JBB). Our 2013 OL class was big and most of them redshirted, so the situation could be much worse, but the past couple of years have me thinking that OL's not the spot to play with fire.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I agree, but I think the main||
I agree, but I think the main reason it seems so strange is that I associate Pipkins & Bolden only with Hoke and Miller & Countess with both Hoke and Rodriguez. The Rodriguez era is starting to feel like it was a long time ago, yet we'll have some of his recruits with us even next season.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||What blows my mind is that||
What blows my mind is that Ondre Pipkins and Joe Bolden have the same eligibility - junior - as Jack Miller and Blake Countess. I feel like Pipkins and Bolden just got here, while Miller and Countess have been here forever.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||This thread title scared the||
This thread title scared the shit out of me, but the helmet actually looks fine. I expected much worse.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||So what's the goal in your||
So what's the goal in your mind? Is it just to get the kid's head on a platter to make a statement? Is it because it's in the best interests of the kid involved? Because it'll be a deterrent for other kids?
Frank Clark's path since that moment sure seems to have been a positive one, all things considered. Do you think it would have been better if Hoke had kicked him to the curb? Maybe a couple of games, fine, but if a goal was to get Clark's life back on track, then Hoke's decision seems to be working toward that goal. (York's case might be completely different, with violence toward another person involved.)
I brought this quote up in a recent thread because I think it's a really interesting issue. It's from Nick Saban at SEC Media Days, and Saban's a jerk (which is clear here), but it's still thought-provoking:
“I want you to know that there's not one player, not one player, since I've been a head coach that I kicked off the team that ever went anywhere and amounted to anything and accomplished anything, playing or academically.
... “That’s what you all think: What are you going to do to the guy? How many games is he getting suspended? Are you going to kick him off the team? This guy kicked this guy off the team because he did this, and that was a good thing,” he said. “Well, but what about the kid? What happens to him? Well, I’m telling you what happens to him: I’ve never seen one go anyplace else and do anything.”
|4 weeks 2 days ago||I just don't get why it was||
I just don't get why it was so hard for the Big Ten to give teams home conference schedules with reasonably balanced appeal from year to year. There shouldn't be this many teams with really shitty schedules in one year followed by good schedules the next. Of course, adding Maryland and Rutgers didn't help with this either.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I'm not at all trying to||
I'm not at all trying to stir up discussion on Rodriguez, but this down period is clearly because we made a dumb hire and/or didn't support that hire like we should have. That brought a system change that knocked us back for a few years, and now we're in a second system change that's slowing our return to form. Two years before that hire we were a game away from playing for a national championship (and that was a competitive road loss to a later-sanctioned OSU team). During Carr's 13 years, we won a national title, won/shared five Big Ten titles, and went 19-8 against top 10 teams. There are some ridiculous assertions out there that this down period will be much more than a blip because of population change or something, but this stuff happens when you have a disastrous hire (or, as you point out, incident/sanctions). We just need to be patient.
I think the biggest long-term threat to Michigan right now is the part of our fan base that wants every coach fired if he's not tearing up college football in his first three seasons. We'll be fine as long as we don't slip into the instability and sloppiness of always changing coaches (see: ND, at least until now). Hell, I'd be happy to bet anyone that we win the majority of our next 10 games against MSU and finish at least 6-7 of the next 10 seasons ranked ahead of them.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I expected this response and||
I expected this response and I completely disagree. It's ridiculous to say that the OSU game doesn't mean anything, ever, even when we're getting our asses handed to us. It means a ton. The MSU game means a lot, too - and that's obviously a big rivalry - but our shitty recent play doesn't mean that we have to win back our ability to claim OSU as a rival. It sure hasn't stopped them from seeing us as their mortal enemy.
People have a hard time seeing beyond the immediate present. MSU is a major pest, partly because so many of their fans are insufferable, obsessive mouthbreathers, which is most obnoxious when they're beating us and living in our neighborhoods. College football power programs have been remarkably stable, though. They all go through down periods - and we're obviously in one now - but they tend to bounce back reasonably quickly. We'll get there, and we don't need to restructure our rivalries in the meantime.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||In the OP's defense, this is||
In the OP's defense, this is a bit of a jab:
“Basically, against State, it’s more of a personal thing against us,” he said. “But it’s not too personal (for us) because we look at it like it’s just another game. That’s how we’re going to continue to look at it.”
Still, I believe what I just wrote (that motivation isn't a relevant variable for MSU against us, because it's always maxed out), and even if Clark exaggerated and shouldn't be saying this out loud, our main, mortal enemy rival is OSU. MSU is clearly more than just another game, but it's also not the OSU rivalry, and in my mind it never will be.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Bulletin board material is||
Bulletin board material is meaningless with MSU. The university's self-esteem is built on in its comparisons to Michigan, so they'll be insanely fired up to play us no matter what anyone says beforehand. The idea that Hart's "little brother" comment prompted the recent change in fortune is ridiculous. We've sucked lately. That (and Pat Narduzzi) prompted the recent change in fortune.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah, it looks like Pelini is||
Yeah, it looks like Pelini is about to kill the camera man (or everyone), ESPN guy is trying not to shit his pants, and Hoke just finished shitting his pants. Meyer just looks like an asshole, so there's nothing notable about his photo.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||That's too bad about Bilal.||
That's too bad about Bilal. Do we know what prompted all of those Michigan predictions?
|4 weeks 5 days ago||I came on to mention the same||
I came on to mention the same game (and I didn't attend it). That was the App State year and many teams would have collapsed, but this was one of the gutsiest wins I remember and maybe the one I felt most proud about afterward. Hart was out, Henne was banged up, and Illinois was fired up (night game) and good. Really fun win.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||I agree. I really like the||
I agree. I really like the year-long suspension approach that we've seen for Stonum and Hagerup. That punishment would hurt from the players' perspective, because they go a year without football (and probably feel embarrassed and guilty), but if they use the time to get their lives together, it gives them an opportunity to still take advantage of the opportunities they have like a possible NFL career, Michigan degree, etc. It also gives players time to reassess their decision-making and life trajectories.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||I think this raises an||
I think this raises an interesting issue, which Nick Saban touched on during the SEC media days. Clark could have been dismissed from the team after his laptop thing, and a lot of people claimed that keeping Clark was evidence that Hoke wasn't serious about discipline. (Granted, many of those voices are the geniuses among our rivals' fan bases.) But it's really hard to imagine that dumping him then would have been better for Clark - or for most of the guys in his position. Maybe it would have deterred other guys from doing similarly stupid things, but it's not like we've had loads of similar behaviors since then.
I'll paste Saban's line below. It's Saban, so there's way more asshole here than there needs to be, but I think it's an intriguing point:
"There's not one player, not one player, since I've been a head coach that I kicked off the team that ever went anywhere and amounted to anything and accomplished anything, playing or academically"
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Sorry, I don't hug||
Sorry, I don't hug racists.
No, just kidding. (I mean, I don't think I do, but anyway...) I read Chengelis's piece as an article about all of the active team- and culture-building they're doing this year without any serious between-the-lines suggestion of racial division last year. We've heard that chemistry wasn't ideal last year - and guys naturally segregate themselves at least a bit - but I don't think this story is getting at some intense racial lines that emerged last season.
This just feels like the kind of story that gets twisted easily, and I thought that Chengelis was deliberate about trying to prevent that. Your post definitely could have been a lot worse, but I think there's a much more charitable interpretation of the article (namely, the article as it was written).
|4 weeks 6 days ago||(No subject)||
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Oh, STFU, GoWings2008. All||
Oh, STFU, GoWings2008. All of your political views are wrong and stupid, probably because you're such an awful, stupid person.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||I no longer understand what's||
I no longer understand what's happening here.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||No, you're missing the point.||
No, you're missing the point. Gallon was invited by Gardner only because Gallon's black and plays offense. All of our other receivers - Funchess, Darboh, Chesson, Jackson, York, Dukes, Jones - never had a shot.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Wait, are you kidding? My||
Wait, are you kidding? My sarcasm radar is bad.
If not, you went from "I have trouble seeing this resulting in a heated [political] discussion" to starting a potentially heated political discussion in just two posts.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||I think you're interpreting||
I think you're interpreting this in the most controversial, least charitable way possible. Your post suggests that there were bad offense-defense and black-white divisions last season. The article explicitly says that there weren't (e.g., "Not that the Wolverines needed a message attitude change last season. That hasn't been it at all. It's been about getting to know each other and bonding and sharing mutual respect."). I'm not sure why you're just writing that off as Chengelis being gracious. She could have just not said anything about last year if she sensed issues. She went out of her way to say there weren't.
Good organizations keep an eye on these things, and to me this is an article about keeping an eye on them as part of the natural cycle of team-building with a new group of guys. (And trying to make sure that everything is as ideal as possible this year after last season sucked.) I think you're reaching a bit for nasty subtext.
Personally, the news here is that I've hit the point where I think Aaron Wellman is f-ing awesome.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||For the record, my position||
For the record, my positions on the national deficit, immigration reform, et al are absolutely correct, whatever they are, and anyone who disagrees can kiss my ass.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Well, that got weird quickly.||
Well, that got weird quickly.
|5 weeks 2 hours ago||It's pretty funny that||
It's pretty funny that Indiana has 3 of the country's top 6 ILBs this year and then no one else who's remotely close to 4-star status.
|5 weeks 2 hours ago||Very nicely done.This is||
Very nicely done.
This is tangential, but I still can't believe we went 3-9 a few years ago. That chart kind of highlights the awfulness of that record.
|5 weeks 2 hours ago||It'd be amazing if Billy||
It'd be amazing if Billy Crystal's balls are great at predicting the colleges that top football prospects attend. I hope someone checks on that just to be sure.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||After what happened a few||
After what happened a few years ago, the Michigan AD doesn't schedule Appalachian State because it's the best program available that day. That's an active decision to schedule them. I'm sure there are many schools of similar profile that we could have scheduled.
The logic, I think, is that the game has a hook -- a way to sell a few more tickets. Finding nonconference games with a hook isn't necessarily a bad thing... e.g., I like the idea of service academy games, which have more appeal than, say, Bowling Green. I just really dislike this particular hook (Appalachian State). Complete tone deafness from our AD on that one.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||I'm so sick of the "Hoke||
I'm so sick of the "Hoke needs to be on the hot seat" stuff. He's in the middle of a massive rebuilding project. He's had one excellent season, one so-so season, and one shitty season. He's been an excellent representative of the university, he's recruiting really good players and kids, and he seems as clean as big-time college football coaches get. If one shitty season gets our coach on the hot seat - even when he's doing everything else right - we're in for a long era of wandering around looking for the perfect coach who will probably never come.
I also don't understand the group of people that says (1) we should have been patient with Rodriguez and therefore (2) we should not be patient with Hoke. That's such a frustrating, petty position.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||I thought Brandon's most||
I thought Brandon's most insightful point was followed by his most frustrating response. He said that the biggest competition for college football and basketball is flat-screen television sets, which I think is exactly right. His response to that is basically this (which comes a little later):
"Whoever is in this job, you have to stay current with the world changing around us, the world of entertainment. The easiest thing we could do is come up with a cookie-cutter approach for a football game."
To me, copying the gimmicks that you see from the rest of the sports and entertainment world is the cookie-cutter approach. I completely understand the need to differentiate and offer an experience superior to the awesome resolution, replays, TV angles, and climate control of living room television-watching. But in my mind what differentiate(d/s) Michigan football is the resistance to all of the stuff that everyone else does. Michigan Stadium can offer a unique, special sports experience rooted in history and dripping with charm. I think that plus winning is the formula. I'm fine with some experimentation and modernity, but what defines the Michigan Stadium experience should be its uniqueness and tradition.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||I understand the sentiment,||
I understand the sentiment, but I'm not sure we know how much of an awareness drop-off there is from Peppers to the other guys on our roster who could play the position. It's not like we have a bunch of less athletic but super-dependable seniors there. They're young. I think the coaches just have to test Peppers' (and the other guys') instincts in camp and see what looks like the best move. If his football IQ is anywhere near as elite as his athleticism, he might be as dependable as any of our other options.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I just looked directly at||
I just looked directly at Lewis, and even though it's a photograph, I'm pretty sure he saw my soul.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||KBLOW's right about what's a||
KBLOW's right about what's a good attitude to have in general, and you're right that I was being a little more specific to Thompson with this. I don't know about the legacy thing. I obviously won't be suicidal if Roseboro goes to NC State, but that would feel like a recruiting loss to me in a way that missing on Thompson might not.
Again, though, I'll be pleased if Thompson chooses Michigan, so this really isn't me saying that I don't want him.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||If most of these guys||
If most of these guys progress as they should, I think our secondary goes from so-so in 2013 to good in 2014 to great in 2015. With only Taylor and Hollowell(?) scheduled to leave, the 2015 DB group looks so promising: Countess (SR), Wilson (SR), Peppers (SO), Lewis (JR), Stribling (JR), Thomas (JR), Hill (JR), Clark (JR), Watson (SO / RS FR), Richardson (JR), Dawson (SO), Kinnel (FR), Taylor (FR), and hopefully another freshman. There should be top-end talent, depth, a ton of playing experience, and hopefully their fifth year under the same defensive coordinator.
I really hope we come out of 2014 with some momentum and coaching stability. I want to see these coaches have a chance with the roster they've built once it's all grown up.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Not that I know anything, but||
Not that I know anything, but my best guess is along these lines. The story with him has been that he prefers MSU but his dad wants him to wait on making a decision. Now we hear that his dad is letting him commit earlier than expected and he's suddenly ready to announce. That sounds to me like a tell Hoke no in person / give Michigan one last chance kind of deal, but I could be wrong.
Honestly, he's one of those guys that I'd be happy if we get him and fine if we don't.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Oops...||
Sorry, I somehow posted this comment in the wrong thread.
Go Blue. OSU sucks.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I'm guessing one more. I||
I'm guessing one more.
I think Thompson is MSU-bound, just because the story on him has been that he wants to go to MSU and his dad wants him to wait, and now that his dad is letting him commit earlier than expected he's going to commit.
I'll guess either Lewis or Roseboro commits to UM tomorrow. I'd be thrilled with either of them.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I'd love to see Lewis commit.||
I'd love to see Lewis commit. A Lewis-Taylor-Kinnel secondary class would be outstanding. All heavily pursued, top 200 guys for an already loaded, awesome secondary.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||This is a sneaky good class.||
This is a sneaky good class. It's 5th right now in average player rating according to the 247 composite and would be 2nd behind Alabama if we didn't have a kicker in the class (though I'm sure other schools have kickers, too).
Granted, it'll be hard to keep this average quality up as the quantity increases, but I'm definitely not seeing a big recruiting drop-off.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||It took me a minute but I||
It took me a minute but I finally get this. +1
If I'm being honest with myself, I looked more like the Hair Club for Men guy than like Peppers.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||IT'S FRIDAY ASSHOLE STOP||
IT'S FRIDAY ASSHOLE STOP RAINING ON OUR PARADE
|5 weeks 4 days ago||When did Michigan's athletic||
When did Michigan's athletic department hire the guy who did all those 1990s Hair Club for Men before and after shots?
Also, I did not look like Jabrill Peppers as a freshman in college. That's nuts.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||That's good news. I hope||
That's good news. I hope badassness runs through the whole family.
This was also a good opportunity for me to correct something stupid I've believed (without checking) for a long time. Someone told me that KMFDM stands for "kill motherfucking depeche mode." Believe it or not, it doesn't. Nice to revisit that question a couple of decades later.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||This thread title is||
This thread title is annoyingly informative and well done. Please change to something better like "Taylor Lew..."
It's all about the suspense.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||I'm a DB critic, but I'm||
I'm a DB critic, but I'm happy when he brings back cool, unique, old Michigan traditions. "WOW experience" is a totally different thing.