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|12 hours 47 min ago||Simplification doesn't make it simple...||
Choice does not validate unnecessary suffering. The NFL suppressed concussion research for over a decade. Where is the choice there? Who presumed to know best for whom then? We may both agree that there is a place for safety in the game but I don't think we both agree on where that place is.
Private and state sponsored "games" existed in and around Rome for nearly a millennium. I'm not going to pretend the metaphor is exact but, yes, I would say it is nuanced. Specifically I alluded to the line from the movie Gladiator where Russell Crowe remarks to the crowd and sponsor in disgust after he is unappreciated for the death he has wrought. The games in Rome far outlived their religious origin flamed by the political advantage and popularity the carnage fostered for their sponsors. Eight hundred plus years later It took a different religious uprising (and economic collapse) to squelch it and call murder for what it was.
The story that the OP is pointing out is true. But the game of football is in danger of becoming less than it was not from people "on my side of the argument" rather from people on yours. Socioeconomic status is already leveraged on football. It's going to become even more so before we die as the Terry Bradshaws and Troy Aikmans of yesterday’s glory spread the word to talented youth that there is more to life than CTE has to offer. The current science is not clear at all as to the risk involved in football (or lacrosse or soccer or many other sports for that matter.)
No athletes are signing waivers in Pop Warner wrt to possible CTE. Instead coaches with little to no training are coaching the kids not to lead with the head with little consequence to the occasional bell ringer or perhaps even more damaging less noticeable yet constant trauma that is endemic to the game. Adults stand aside and say - hey the kid wants to play - who's to stop him. On the college level, athletes like Denard are given an education that he would not reasonably be able to attain any other way, first in his family to graduate from college. Where is the choice there? On the pro level, we are paying guys more and more to do more and more damage. They have a choice. I guess that justifies it. If the NFL had gotten out in front on CTE - I'd almost buy that.
Read the OP. Kids with parents who know (what little there is to know) or families who don't need football money are choosing not to play. Meanwhile fans are lining up for more and more violent sports - football included - with the OK to watch validated by the athletes presumed choice. There is more than choice in this equation. Football as we know it is going to suffer in the long run. As I said before - there is only so much talent out there. It won't be the same.
87 - wear you seat belt. I don't want to have to pay for your medical bills when some drunk runs you off the road. Wait, you say, you can afford your own bills. Maybe someone else, maybe most everyone else can't. That is why we take choice away when it comes to public health. In the long run it works out best for everyone. Maybe in this case it will work out best for the sport we both love - football.
|1 day 56 min ago||Sounds like somebody got busted by their parents...||
or maybe the parents got caught not listening to their kid.
|1 day 14 hours ago||I'll play...I think it will be Speight...||
that is a wild guess. Malzone will RS. Honestly it's wide open.
|1 day 14 hours ago||Rosen is a solid verbal to UCLA ... this from the UA jersey tour||
Doesn't sound like he is too interested in looking around... but that was two months ago.
|2 days 13 hours ago||I loved this offense... though Michigan stuffed it fairly well..|
|3 days 1 hour ago||Are you not entertained? Did gladiators decide their fates?||
People don't choose their lives and opportunities to the extent public health decisions should be premised on it. Football is not about crippling dotage. Just because people have presumed choice in their lives doesn't mean we shouldn't have seat belt laws or public health warnings.
The talent drain is real. There are only so many arms out there capable of hitting a 20 yard out (with guys who are now 33+% as big as they were in the sixties) bearing down on them. Privleged kids are playing supposedly safer sports - because they're parents have choice.
People aren't as free as you think - especially kids confined to a more and more fixed socioeconomic status. Choice doesn't justify avoidable injury not being avoided. We have a history of work place safety that was established from blood and tears of people who didn't have immediate choice to do whatever they wanted.
People wave the freedom flag to take away others opportunities. Does that make sense? You are saying if athletes have choice we can sign off on responsibility for their consequences. I'm saying not so much. Can we coexist? Seems unlikely without a little wavering.
|3 days 2 hours ago||Our tax dollar at work... does this make you feel better?||
Effect of altitude on football performance.
Magnitude aside I don't think this makes for much advantage for trained athletes. I few days of acclimatizing and extra aerobic work. The real challenge is a team that kicked Michigan around not too long ago. Not to mention Michigan teams are road warriors (/s).
And ... in summation... Peppers.
|5 days 2 hours ago||At this point he can say this...||
Miles is on the list at some point. This is a micro positive searchbit.
|5 days 2 hours ago||F5ing||
|5 days 5 hours ago||Less people die playing football with helmets...||
that is why we have helmets.
Scrum <> Flying Wedge
|5 days 5 hours ago||It is pretty dificult to view non American athletes given the ..||
coverage we have thrust down our throats. If that implies less interest then I would take issue.
On the flip side I find myself watching less Michigan football recently regardless of expanded coverage.
I'm not sure which side sounds better to me here.
|5 days 6 hours ago||Yeah ... because we are all equal and free...||
and kids can make these decisions for themselves and god bless America and all. But if you lived in a country where all kids were measured by Football prowess would it still be the next CTE inflicted brain's fault?
I love skiing more than most, but I don't do flips. Stunts like White's kill people every year who try and emulate them. Every death has a waiver in small type on their lift ticket. There are no such waivers in a football helmet. Where is Steve Colbert to waiver his American flag when you need it.
|5 days 6 hours ago||Golf is pretty safe||
and purportedly a sport...I don't agree but purporters are smarter than I am.
|6 days 1 hour ago||This should be moved to Diaries...||
thanks for pulling this data and the charts.
|6 days 2 hours ago||Can you provide one example of a football athlete who went JuCo||
to polish his athletic talents under superior coaching and facilities despite being eligible for a 4 year school? I will save you the post... there are none. Baseball, hockey, soccer are all different animals. Football JuCo players are kids who have classroom issues in general. That is quite fact.
If a kid has resources and wants to work on his grades and make it into a four year school - prep is the another route. It's a hard road either way.
Kansas has an historical job market and education mission that allows for 2 year degrees and transfers. They don't have the directional schools of other states. That said... community colleges, for profit institutions and online programs are offering economic alternatives to fully qualified students to get their degree. However they aren't making SEC/P12/B12/B1G/ACC starters out of kids without HS video to prove themselves athletically.
If you can name one (like Aaron Rodgers) - he is the exception that proves the rule.
Michigan can use JuCos - but they need to show progression toward existing degrees. It's not an easy thing to do while burning eligibility at a JuCo playing academic catch up. To portray JuCo football players as doing anything else than catch up - undersells the work they need to accomplish to make it at Michigan or any four year school.
|1 week 1 day ago||There was stuff there about @ThoseWhoStay7||
which was worth saving. Just saying.
|1 week 1 day ago||The lyrics make sense to me now... how could I have missed this||
He's talking about putting people in motion...spreading the defense. Brian has gone back to his roots to replenish his inner spreadness in some sort of love in in SF. There can be no other take on this. Thanks chatster.
|1 week 1 day ago||Chatsports...|
|1 week 1 day ago||That bottle keeps refilling itself...it's magic||
oh wait ... Chatsports.
|1 week 1 day ago||That may be tonight's conundrum...||
but tomorrow it will come clean. Brian has a history of calling out douchebags who approach recruits. He called out students for approaching Zettel in a concession line (a recruitment that could have been compromised by crap like this - it certainly didn't help.)
Prediction - Brian tones down support for this source tomorrow in the searchbits.
|1 week 1 day ago||If Michigan is willing to put 8 million a year on the table...||
there is more than one basket.
|1 week 1 day ago||That will change tomorrow...||
Brian will not stand with a non public account that tweets recruits. His livelihood is at stake. Just my opinion - but this guy is neither credible nor worth retweets.
|1 week 2 days ago||If only there was a system that could decide where bullets come||
to rest. Of course...we would call that system logical because... well...logic.
|1 week 2 days ago||Hmm... perhaps because this report is BS||
...but wait it's coming from such a reliable source.
|1 week 3 days ago||Suck it up||
Admit you don't care about spelling or that you regret your error. Spelling matters here and in most of the literate word. Quit the incredulous act.
|1 week 5 days ago||This is unfortunately a political take...||
believe it or not. Verboten.
A tragedy in any context.
|2 weeks 1 hour ago||College coaches as Pokemon||
This spelling smashup has the makings a virtuosic diary.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||University of Denver||
= DU. This is pretty common at many schools.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||No they don't have the same credentials as recruits we pull in..||
They are incoming Juniors. If they are careful and lucky they can transfer the classes they took, but in general they aren't. JUCOs go to Junior College because they can't go to a four year school. They have to transfer in with the same progression toward a Michigan degree that our recruits have shown - as a third year Michigan undergrad. That is not easy.
The plurality of Michigan football players are kinesiology or general studies majors. I'm not saying these degrees are hard but JUCO courses don't transfer necessarily. For kinesiology - you would be hard pressed to cover equivalent classes at Grand Rapids CC. If one or two classes don't transfer that puts the incoming student in a pretty big hole. Most of the high end talent coming out of JUCOs are kids who take a least some of the classes that don't transfer.
Equivalencies are posted on the UM admissions site. Check it out. Try and find equivalient kinesiology classes. You may find them but are they offered every term? There is a reason JUCOs don't work at Michigan. That said - if a coaching staff wanted to start the program - they could. Alabama will stick a player or two away in a JUCO with an understanding that they can join the team in a year or two. Their classes are coordinated with admissions and it's another way they make it work. Nebraska, Kansas and Kansas State are just some of the schools that can work well for JUCOs - not just for football but for all the students in their region. Michigan transfers are mostly kids who are highly motivated and necessarily take the classes they know will transfer.
There is more to say here but your premise that they probably have the same credentials as our Junior student athletes is wrong.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I like AF||
Calhoun has my approval over Schiano.