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|5 weeks 2 days ago||My concern is ego. I read the||
My concern is ego. I read the Seth Wickersham article from ESPN the "just go to Michigan" piece from Grantland linked to. I don't think this is Harbaugh coming home for an epic Bo-like run if he does come. I could see him pulling a Pete Carroll at USC.
|6 weeks 13 hours ago||If you include his record at||
If you include his record at Oklahoma State Miles record and Mullen's record looks similar.
|6 weeks 13 hours ago||I'm saying Mullen in part||
I'm saying Mullen in part because he's a long term answer. Possibly 20 years if he does well.
|6 weeks 13 hours ago||That's right. My bad.||
That's right. My bad.
|6 weeks 17 hours ago||Huh, I was not aware of||
Huh, I was not aware of Saban's age. I'm not anti-Miles. I'm just very pro-Mullen. If it's between Miles and anyone but Harbaugh and Mullen, Miles is my choice.
|6 weeks 17 hours ago||Won 2, went to 3.||
Won 2, went to 3.
|6 weeks 17 hours ago||Just remember, when was the||
Just remember, when was the last time Oakland did anything right or even well? If that's our competition I feel pretty good.
|6 weeks 17 hours ago||Oakland or Michigan. Those||
Oakland or Michigan. Those are the only two outcomes I see. If he doesn't come here it's because he wants to stay on the West Coast.
|6 weeks 17 hours ago||I don't get how we could||
I don't get how we could consider a 61 year old coach who half the program seems to not like on the downside of his career with a checkered recruiting history over Mullen.
|6 weeks 17 hours ago||I don't get how Miles can be||
I don't get how Miles can be the number two choice and not Mullen.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||I can't see any reason Mullen||
I can't see any reason Mullen say no to the job. He has to fight from underneath against Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Florida, and Georgia for recruits every year. He comes to Ann Arbor and it's O$U and then nothing.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Biggest plus for Harbaugh?||
Biggest plus for Harbaugh? There's a 22% chance he punches Urban Meyer in his smug, sanctimonious face in the next five years. Also, while I think Harbaugh's intensity and personality can grate in the NFL I think that plays to his advantage in college.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||How concerned do you think we||
How concerned do you think we are with making a big name hire? It's very easy to become a moribund program (howdy, Nebraska and Miami) and the Rodriguez-Hoke years were not good for that.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Mullen also won national titles as an assistant.||
Mullen also won national titles as an assistant.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Harbaugh then Mullen then anyone but Schiano, Miles, or Adazio||
Harbaugh then Mullen then anyone but Schiano, Miles, or Adazio
|7 weeks 19 hours ago||I'm inclined to say that||
I'm inclined to say that Harbaugh is honest. Otherwise he looks terrible.
|7 weeks 19 hours ago||Harbaugh or Mullen or bust. I||
Harbaugh or Mullen or bust. I lean towards Mullen mainly because I worry that Harbaugh's ambition takes him back to the NFL again sooner rather than later. Paradoxically, I'd feel better about Harbaugh if he'd won the Super Bowl (less to prove in the NFL still).
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Worst candidate: is it Tom Herman or Jon Gruden?||
Worst candidate: is it Tom Herman or Jon Gruden?
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I want Mullen||
I want Mullen so badly it hurts. My biggest concern with Harbaugh is that this is a stopover for him before going back to the NFL (if he wins here I think he gets the itch to prove he can do it in the NFL). Mullen? Mullen I think could be the next great coach in Michigan history.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Agreed on some stuff||
Agreed on some of that. But I'd think that LSU is wayyyyy worse than Mississippi State... In part because I'm praying we get Mullen.
|4 years 1 week ago||if Michigan is supposed to be||
Isn't that what we did with RR and what Florida did with Urban Meyer? I know Meyer had a lot of success at Utah but Utah isn't an SEC school. Granted, I would prefer we make a splash with our defensive coordinator but we're not doing anything out of the norm.
|4 years 2 weeks ago||Lloyd's last few Michigan||
I was reminded of those games when I watched the OSU-Arkansas game. It seemed like Michigan just got worn out and didn't have the conditioning to hang with Texas and USC.
|4 years 2 weeks ago||Not mad at Hoke, mad at Brandon.||
I can't really hate on Hoke for taking his dream job even if he might not be ready. I'd rather have a coach who lets his nuts swing and believes in himself than a guy who isn't confident in his abilities.
That said, the enmity should be focused squarely on Dave Brandon. I know this has all been hashed and rehashed here but this was a complete mess from the start. If Brandon was going to fire Rodriguez he should have done it after the OSU game and started the search. Then declaring a "national search" for the "best candidate available" but only as long as that candidate had ties to Michigan.
Assuming that media reports are correct Brandon never talked to Dan Mullen (who would have been my choice: he's young, he's at least partially responsible for great offenses at three schools and has a good eye for defensive coordinators), Gary Patterson, or Pat Fitzgerald.
Then, instead of making the bold move of announcing Hoke immediately he made it seem like he was courting Les Miles and Jim Harbaugh and that Hoke was the choice because they needed someone so they wouldn't have a recruiting disaster on their hands.
|4 years 2 weeks ago||The media and alum response||
The media and alum response seems to be, "we're willing to be patient and take our lumps and possibly be mediocre because at least we'll be mediocre doing something familiar".
I know the whole search has been hashed and rehashed, but I'm still frustrated by the "Michigan man" fixation. Of the last six national champions five have been coached by men with no prior ties to the University.
|4 years 2 weeks ago||As a new poster I don't want||
As a new poster I don't want to speak for other people but while I'm disappointed in the hire he's the coach now and I want him to do well. I would have preferred someone else, but I hope that he proves me wrong.
|4 years 2 weeks ago||Trying to be optimistic||
I was really coveting Dan Mullen after I did some follow-up research on him after hearing about him on here. I'm not thrilled with the Hoke hire but hope to be proven wrong.
The most disappointing aspect of the hire for me was the return to MANBALL. You have one of the most exciting players in the country, you're a defensive coach, why go back to what wasn't working? What hurts about keeping some continuity on what was a pretty good offense?
Returning to MANBALL seems to be a capitulation that Michigan's highest ambitions aren't a National Title but to win the B1G and beat OSU 30% of the time. Seems like the majority of the elite programs in this country run some sort of spread/spread-option offense.