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- With everything happening at ND, and the loss of 3 key starters, we are going to win that game.
- With the way we choked away the game against PSU, it isn't going to happen again. UTL will be electric, and we'll win that game.
- With all the crap Michigan has taken, they won't take any games for granted, and will be hungry to win every game.
- we have a bye week before MSU. In previous years, MSU was "just another game." I think it is now more personal, and Michigan will be scheming and working toward that game. In some ways, beating MSU in East Lansing may be our most important game this year.
- Depth. I am so excited for quality depth and competition. It is incredible to see the possibility that a number of starters on the defense last year might not start. (Morgan, Countess, Taylor.) But even if they don't, last year's starters are still solid. To have a highly skilled two deep on defense with little to know dropoff in ability is pretty incredible. We're not as deep on offense, but it is getting there. The depth means more and better competition in practice. They can practice much harder when the coaches aren't afraid of knocking out a starter. And the depth means the offense and defense can push each other much more in practice.
- Special teams. For the first time in many years, I see the possibility that special teams will be a strength. Hagerup booming punts, solid returns, solid coverage. Special teams gets too little attention, but is a third of the game, and is very important.
- OL Development. I am one of those guys who is frosted with the negativity and the trolling by so many so called Michigan fans. If there ever was a time when I wanted a unit to prove naysayers wrong, this is it. Maybe the only silver lining is that I could see these guys playing very angry and really coming out with a controlled, vicious, mean streak. I'm particularly tired of all the trash that Glasgow gets.
- Manball. I am ready for smash mouth football. I am ready for the DL & LB and Peppers and the OL to take no prisoners and to inflict pain. I am especially ready for Michigan to inflict some serious pain on MSU and OSU.
- Man, there are some whiney, crabby posters. Some patience, man.
- sUTL is an interesting acronym. Doesn't roll off the tongue quite right.
- Are we ready for some football?
- This defense is going to be scary. If they can actually score some points, they could single-handedly win some games. I think they will have a massive chip on their shoulder against several teams, including MSU & OSU.
- Back to the patience theme. I still remember something Brian wrote 3 or 4 years ago. Because the OL recruiting had cratered out under RR and Hoke had very little time to recruit in Jan. 2011, Brian was of the opinion that we really wouldn't have a solid OL until 2015. (If one of you mods or someone with advanced search capabilities can find this, I'd be much obliged.) I completely agree with this sentiment. The OL is coming along. They will probably only be mediocre this year. But that's an improvement over 2013. By 2015, the OL should be good, and by 2016, the depth and experience and repetitions by the OL will be such that they return to being a strength. This just takes lots of time, and it isn't something that you can force to happen quickly.
- In the statement "these fucking bigots," you seem to class all who hold a different position in the same group: "fucking bigots" May I suggest that there is more nuance? That not all who take a different position are fucking bigots? You just can't class all who you don't like together. There are many very offensive examples of this. To put all people into one class is overly simplistic and very rarely accurate.
- In the statement, "these fucking bigots," the use of the word "fucking" immediately insults and marginalizes those in the group you oppose. Put the shoe on the other foot. If someone put a post about a group you supported beginning "These fucking . . . (fill in the blank)," how would you feel? How would you respond? Would that be appropriate?
- In the statement "these fucking bigots," your assumption is that all who take a different position are bigots. Merriam-Webster defines bigot as a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people. Ummh, I've gone to pains in other posts to state that I don't dislike gay people at all. Let alone strongly or unfairly. I support gay marriage in society, support equal pay and equal opportunity regardless of sexual preference, made clear that I don't hate homosexuals, despise them, or feel the need to change them, and I've been clear that I have gay friends, and gays who attend my church. Some gays I like, some I don't. Some straight people I like, some I don't. Liking or disliking someone on the basis of their sexual preferences doesn't work very well. It is true that I believe that homosexuality is morally wrong. However, these are my own personal beliefs, which are irrelevant to you, and which I don't want to impose on homosexuals. I don't feel I am better or superior or more holy than someone who is gay. When you decide to label anyone who disagrees with you as a "fucking bigot," you are acting in a narrow-minded, closed minded, judgemental way. I can deal with that, Kapitan Howard. But is that really what you want to do?
- Politically, someone can either believe that Obama is a good president or a bad president. Another person can disagree, but respect the first person's right to their own political beliefs.
- Religiously, someone can believe there is no god, one God, or many Gods. Another person can disagree, but respect the first person's right to their own religious beliefs.
- In sports, someone can believe that Ohio State is the best sports team in the Big 10. Someone else (namely me!) can disagree, but respect the first person's right to their own belief.
- Even as a Michigan fan, someone can believe that Morris should be the starting QB. I may personally believe they are a "moran," but respect their right to their belief.
|6 hours 58 min ago||Brian can obv. do what he wants||
But I have to say I agree . . . time for a new tag line. And I've never really gotten into the Draftageddon. Maybe it floats someone's boat, but it has never done anything for me. I just assume that there must be some readers who really love it, or the site owners, so they do it. Since I don't do fantasy, and don't follow other teams extensively, a lot of it is lost on me.
|7 hours 6 min ago||Ha!||
Not to worry. She's good.
|10 hours 53 min ago||Loved this Story||
I love this story, and others I've read about Clark. What a challenging environment to come from. Thanks so much for providing the link.
There is something else that is worth mentioning. Clark (and Henry) both played for Ted Ginn. I would bet $1,000 that Ginn and Hoke really get along, and get each other. They care for their players deeply. I can't speak to RR, or Carr, or Urban Meyer, or Dantonio. But I have no doubt about Hoke, and about Mattison, and about the atmosphere at Michigan. Every team talks about being a family. And you know, I think that every team out will function somewhat as a family. Some more, some less. But I do think that Hoke really gets it, and has the respect of Ginn and many other coaches and of the players. More than just being on a winning team, more than being at a great institution academically, more than being close to home, Hoke and crew are putting together a culture that welcomes and helps and encourages players like Frank Clark and Willie Henry. As I think of Mone, Darboh, Chesson, Bushell-Beatty, Tuley-Tillman, Hurst, Gedeon, Ojemudia, Ways, sadly York, I see kids (and coaches and families behind them) who yearn for the kind of environment that is at Michigan. I'm proud of Hoke and the culture he has been building. This, I believe, is a big part of the reason for the tremendous recruiting we've seen at Michigan.
|13 hours 41 min ago||For crying out loud||
Hate that uniform. What were they smoking?
I almost never go into threads about uniformz, but man, what are people thinking? I get that times change, and we move forward, but this just seems . . . ridiculous. The uniform companies, all of them (UA, Adidas, Nike, et al) seem to have designers who have to justify their existence by coming up with something more and more outlandish. A pox on all of them.
"Get off my lawn."
|16 hours 3 min ago||Great ideas||
I really loved the Michigan Daily stories on Pahokee and Denard, and love when there are links to stories like those. If we were able to have some of those more regularly, that would be awesome. Looking at 85 players, and 4 - 5 years to cover them, that would mean you could have 2 - 3 player profiles a month from January through August and cover all the seniors. Great idea. (EDIT: and I'd love to hear more about guys than just football.)
I wouldn't mind some of the six zero type user profiles too.
And yeah, to hear more from Brian (and some from Seth) on the State of the Site would be good, whether now or in January. All good ideas (I'm chiming in here especially for BISB.)
|17 hours 15 min ago||Your avatar||
Your avatar somehow matches perfectly with your sentiment. Flames, death skull, banished!
|17 hours 25 min ago||Got it - Thanks||
Got it, and thank you.
|17 hours 30 min ago||Was not aware||
But then, I'm clueless often enough. What's the name of the app? mgoblog?
|1 day 6 hours ago||Eleven Warriors has melted down||
I saw the heading at 11W, with more than 150 comments. When I clicked through, the site melted down. Can't get on. I don't think he'll be able to come back . . . what are you going to do? Tell opposing defenses to take it easy and not hit him hard? He's a marked man.
|1 day 7 hours ago||Even for me this is wierd||
Even for me this is wierd. But hey, such is life. And FTW, there hasn't been smut here for ages. Magnus has the corner on that.
|1 day 7 hours ago||Nope||
Nope, not same side sitters. Even when we're out with the kids, we're on opposite sides of the booth.
|1 day 9 hours ago||You may be right . . .||
You may be right . . . but remember, mgoblog is pretty much a Drew free zone (something like Bleacher Report, only they're more professional than Drew.)
|1 day 9 hours ago||Spousal Disagreement||
Dear, I think you are being far too harsh. Yes, it was right for York to be dismissed. He made a poor decision, and is now suffering the consequences. But "good riddance?" No, this isn't a good thing, but a sad thing. Sweetheart, how many times do I need to tell you, kindness, charity, generosity, and a spirit of forgiveness are a much better way to go. Honey, I hated to do it, but I had to downvote you. Keep this up, and I'll have to ask the mods for special dispensation to monitor you, so I can keep you on a short leash. I still love you, but you're out of line.
Your one and only,
|1 day 10 hours ago||I agree - 7 - 0 start||
I agree, and also see a 7 - 0 start. I actually think that we could well go all the way to Columbus without a loss.
If all the above is true, the OL will have a full season to gel, along with every other unit. That will make the OSU game winnable, although that's the game I see Michigan losing, being in Columbus.
|1 day 11 hours ago||Not one specific thing||
Just happy the season is here, happy for so many things. Can't pick just one but I'll try to pick a few.
|1 day 15 hours ago||I've drank the koolaid||
I realize that Michigan is not going to win all it's games. Well, is unlikely to win out this season. But the gloom and doom around here sometimes is suffocating. The lack of patience with the OL is mind-boggling. I definitely am in the camp that it takes time to set up an OL the right way, and we're heading in the right direction.
At this point, I believe the OL will be mediocre, and the DL will be great. I have never heard Greg Mattison as positive as he has been. The depth throughout the defense is astounding. I already thought the LB corps would do well, and the secondary, but with the DL really coming together, you have three solid position groups. The weakest area seems to be safety, but we have so much strength and depth at corner, it is possible that we might be able to shift someone from corner to safety in order to have the best 4 - 5 on the field in the secondary.
There hasn't been a whole lot on special teams, other than noting that the kicking game is solid. If special teams is good, Hagerup will be able to pin the opposing offense way deep when our offense has stalled. I really think that when we have the opponent pinned back deep, our defense will be able to get a safety here and there, and we will have some INT's taken back for a score. I also think we will see improvement in our return game.
As regards the offense, I still think it will be much better than many think. First, while the OL isn't opening holes for the RB's, I think they will do much better at giving pass protection this year. Giving Devin more time, plus Devin having more receivers, plus Devin making better decisions on throwing it away, should lead to much greater production in the passing game. As the passing game gouges other teams, this will open things up a lot more for the running game.
As regards the much maligned OL, I do think it will probably end up being Cole, Mags, Glasgow, Kalis, and Braden. I think they will indeed learn from playing together for lots of downs. I also believe they have a very good opportunity to be 6 - 0 to start the season. If they get that far, they should be gelling together, and they will have a chance in every remaining game. Probably the biggest challenge from being 6 - 0 is that people will think Michigan is better than it really is. They aren't there yet, but they will be.
I believe that Michigan will end the season with two losses, but will come away from MSU and OSU with at least one win.
|1 day 19 hours ago||Got mine in Chicago||
I lived in Florida several years . . . everything is slower there. Did you ever get caught behind a LIncoln Continental going 5 - 10 below the speed limit, on the way to the 4pm dinner special? Just sayin.
|2 days 21 hours ago||Thanks to all who attended!||
Thanks to all who attended! It is great to hear so much about the team. Since I didn't attend and there was no stream, this was extremely helpful. A few crumbs as we wait for the season to begin. Just a few observations about the thread:
|3 days 11 hours ago||I'm in the Android crowd||
I'm in the Android crowd. Hope an app for that will come soon, perhaps from another developer?
|4 days 8 hours ago||Nope||
Not here in Chicago area yet. Anticipation is a beautiful thing.
|4 days 9 hours ago||When you're open to dialogue, I"m game||
Kapitan Howard, when you're open to real dialogue, I"m game. But when your post begins, These fucking bigots, well, it is a challenge to respond. Nonetheless, I'll go down this road a bit.
As for my post regarding whether or not homosexuality is a choice, it was ill-advised on my part to open that can of worms. What I was trying to say is that it is pretty complicated, and that it isn't clearly the case that there is a gene determining whether or not someone is gay. Between environment, number of older brothers, dynamics in the home, genetics, there are tons of factors involved in why someone is gay, and someone else is not. I suspect that in some cases, choice is involved. In other cases, not so much. I'm not a scientist, nor have I studied homosexuality, so I'm not competent and my opinion doesn't matter much.
What's clear is that you're really passionate about this topic, and that I've deeply angered and offended you. I'm sorry that is the case, and really, I should have known better . . . this is a bad forum to address deep topics like this. I take a lot of the blame, because I know my beliefs are very offensive to some, and as such, I really should just keep my mouth shut.
|5 days 12 hours ago||Google Search on Choice||
MGoBender, I was curious about your assertion. (IT'S NOT A CHOICE.) If you google search, "Is homosexuality genetic" you will get more than 3,000,000 hits.
The first link about a gay gene is from the Telegraph in London. The money quote:
What does wikipedia, the friend of today's college students everywhere, have to say about biology and sexual orientation? Here's the key sentence:
I could go through more of the links, but here's the thing. The scientific research is inconclusive. If anything, it indicates that less than 50% of "homosexuality" is genetically predetermined. MGoBender, you undercut your own position when you state your position so strongly, as if it were "fact."
There are some in the gay community who actually are concerned about the idea that there is a clear and indisputable gene marker for homosexuality. If there was a so-called "gay gene," women could choose to be tested for it and to abort, just as they do for a variety of reasons, from gender to Down Syndrome, Cystic Fibrosis, Spina Bifida, and Muscular Distrophy.
Obviously, you very strongly believe in the position that homosexuality is not a choice. I would simply ask that you honor scientific studies, and the fact that your belief is not clearly conclusive.
|5 days 13 hours ago||Thanks for your response||
At this point, I will self-moderate myself, and cease comments on homosexuality and morality, other than to say that I'm glad ASU football player felt able to express himself publicly.
Also, I'm glad that the season is about to begin, when all off topic discussions will be curtailed, and we can be united in our love of Michigan football.
|5 days 14 hours ago||(hangs head)||
Sadly, you are correct. I thought it was a mistake. Actually, I thought, did I post that? Am I losing my mind? C'est la vie. It's what I get for wasting time putting up an obvious post.
|5 days 15 hours ago||Crap||
Thank you, mGrowOld, for pointing out that this content was posted yesterday. Oh, the shame. I haven't read posts closely enough, and have now brought the deserved negbangs on my head. See what happens for not refreshing mgoblog enough and clicking on every thread.
Mods, one of you, please have mercy and delete this thread post haste. Argh.
|5 days 15 hours ago||I get your point||
I get your point, but I respectfully and civilly disagree.
Your use of the term "Homophobe" is clearly pejorative, and short circuits civil or intelligent discussion. By classing "Homophobe" with "Birther," the implication is that they both have a screw loose, wear a tinfoil hat, etc.
The Obama example isn't the best illustration. Maybe another would be better? I can believe that alcoholics make a bad choice, or a wrong choice. Same thing with those who smoke weed regularly. . . my "opinion" is that repeated use can affect your brain cells eventually.
Now, believing that these subsets (those who drink alcohol or smoke marijuana to excess) are "wrong" does not necessarily imply that they are not fully considered equals. Even "equal" is a slippery term. If equal means "equal" rights, opportunities, etc., well yes, they are fully equal. But obviously, every last one of us are "different." The fact that we all differ in various ways means that from that perspective, we're not "equal." Not being equal (in talent, background, gender, sexual choices or preferences, etc.) doesn't imply that they shouldn't have the same rights and ability to freely choose as they see fit.
|5 days 16 hours ago||Love SalvatoreQuattro's Comment||
I love SalvatoreQuattro's comments:
We as a society still have a long way to go, but I think it is a fine thing for this athlete to make this announcement. I actually think it would be fine if he hadn't, but I support his right to do so.
Some comments and thoughts of my own. I would add to SalvatoreQuattro's definition of tolerance, "respecting a person's right to act on their beliefs." In the case of homosexuality, tolerating the action goes beyond respecting their right to believe as they choose.
There also needs to be different terminology. Specifically, "Homophobia" is used as a pejorative label for anyone who doesn't accept homosexuality, who believes it is wrong. It is possible to believe that many things are wrong without fearing them or choosing them personally. You can respect the right of someone else to believe what they want and simultaneously believe that they are wrong.
We have examples of this all over.
Somehow, this doesn't carry over to our views on homosexuality. I'd like to see a society that respects the right of different views and beliefs, without judging and despising those with whom you disagree.
|5 days 17 hours ago||Great Common Sense Observation||
You make a great common sense observation. I would expect more challenges for gays in sports where a violent, macho, aggressive culture is prevalent.
While a student at Michigan, I dated a girl who was a figure skater and had competed nationally. She mentioned that in the skating world, many of the male skaters were gay.
I wouldn't be surprised if the number of gays in figure skating, gymnastics, ballet, the dance world, is much higher than in football, wrestling, ice hockey, rugby, etc.
I'll have to google search this, but if any of you happen to know of studes on this topic and have links, it'd be interesting to read.
|6 days 3 hours ago||I am noticing a pattern||
I am noticing a pattern. Those who ordered HTTV via kickstarter (including me) haven't gotten it yet. If you wait and order it later via other distribution networks, etc., you already have it. What is wrong with this picture? (Nothing, if you think that ordering season Hockey tickets early, only to find out that MSU won't be at Yost, is ok.)
|6 days 12 hours ago||York and Due Process||
I am completely with those who are glad that York isn't playing and that he is suspended and not practicing. However, I also deeply appreciate "due process." Let the process work. I am among those who believe that sadly, he needs to be released. I'd actually be happy to see York get another chance, but elsewhere.
The one thing I really like as regards Hoke is his language. He isn't adding anything that is imprecise. "We're going to go through the process" and "He's suspended" are very clear statements. Nothing about "family matters." Nothing about what he did and his guilt, or the video, or anything else. This is a great way to go for Hoke, and I suspect he has learned a bit from his experience with the Gibbons situation.