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|3 days 3 hours ago||Allow me to chime in here, in||
Allow me to chime in here, in defense of the OP:
|1 week 21 hours ago||Dude, this might not be your||
Dude, this might not be your intent, but it sounds like you're taking credit for that being an original idea; that's hogwash. People have been advocating for night games for decades. Yes, there have always been traditionalists who preferred noon starts, but some people have been on the horse for a long time.
|1 week 3 days ago||Hate, hate, hate the||
Hate, hate, hate the Tennessee orange wings on the helmets. Highlighter may not be accurate, but neither is this--the maize I grew up on and that was brilliant in the 90s/early 00s puts this color to shame. It actively bothers me every time I see it on television.
|3 weeks 18 hours ago||Michigan didn't just lose six||
Michigan didn't just lose six games. We got smoked, embarrassed, annihilated. It was every bit as ugly as the way the team is playing now. We were flat-out embarrassed by OSU, and in the Bowl that theoretically could have saved RR's job. Recruits were already bailing. It was over.
|3 weeks 18 hours ago||RR made some mistakes of his||
RR made some mistakes of his own. It is true that he didn't have the support to hire the staff he wanted; he also did make some bad hires. And his recruiting was only okay, especially on defense. It is quite possible that he will never have the elite kind of defense needed to win national titles.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Gus is one of many coaches||
Gus is one of many coaches that I would take in a heartbeat but that has no chance of coming here. Zero. Michigan is simply not a good enough job right now to draw someone who is succeeding at a high level at a top SEC program, unless that coach has an existing tie to the school.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Oregon has a rather wealthy||
Oregon has a rather wealthy backer who will pay whatever it takes to keep Helfrich if Helfrich is worth it. If Knight doesn't pony up, that's a sign that Helfrich isn't thought to be the engine driving the train, and the way they encouraged Mike Bellotti to make way for Chip Kelly shows they have a track record of getting that right. If Helfrich is available, it is a good sign that he's not going to cut it here.
So Helfrich is a Catch-22: If you can get him, you don't want him. If you want him, you can't get him.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||This is plausible, especially||
This is plausible, especially if Brandon is running the search.
It's also a terrible, terrible, terrible idea. He was a complete failure in the pros, and while Rutgers had a good year or two, he still wasn't all that great over there. And the best success he had at Rutgers was basically riding the back of its star running back.
The running back was Ray Rice.
No to Schiano.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Rats. I had one really||
Rats. I had one really pressing question.
See, hypothetically, how do you grade the Shane Morris post-concussion handoff? Is there a negative RPS? Or just Hoke/Brandon bonus ratings?
"Hoke (-15) sends Morris in due to serious communication errors (Brandon -25). Ref (+3) offers Hoke a timeout, which Hoke (-20) declines. Morris (+2) guts out a handoff without falling over. RPS -3 for having a guy who can barely stand play quarterback. Hard to tell if this is simply total and utter incompetence or a malicious violation of human rights; results based charting. Hoke -25 extra for destroying his team, Brandon -50 for destroying the program."
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Might be worth a call, and I||
Might be worth a call, and I thought about him. He failed at Tennessee, though.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I think you're doing fine.||
I think you're doing fine. Extra stuff is getting posted; just cleaning out the redundant garbage is enough.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||IMHO as a non-holder, one||
IMHO as a non-holder, one only hurts oneself if you try to boycott the rest of the games in protest.
If I were local, I might consider skipping a game or two, but I wind up missing out on a nice afternoon if I disappear the rest of the season. It can still be fun. But I don't blame people for picking an afternoon or two where they just do something else, though.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||David Shaw. We should give||
David Shaw. We should give him a call. Seriously.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Logged in just to up vote||
Logged in just to up vote this.
Keep this thread please mods.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||This doesn't make Hoke a||
This doesn't make Hoke a "bad" person. Just an incompetent one. And while I generally don't think things are quite as chaotic or clueless as peanut-gallery fans make things out to be, this is one instance where it seems that either Hoke was stubborn because he yanked Gardner, or completely unable to properly manage the situation.
And both of those are reasons he needs to be fired.
And I think we're approaching the threshold where, even in college where coaches are almost never fired midseason, he may need to be fired in midseason.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Who can tell? The coaching||
Who can tell? The coaching has clearly been so bad that there's no way to know who is a good player that is poorly coached and who will just never turn out. Theoretically, the players on offense are talented. But they're not playing like it, and there's no telling what a hypothetical new coach will be able to extract from them.
|4 weeks 6 hours ago||I defended Brandon for a long||
I defended Brandon for a long time, and this was partly why. There's a whole department that runs here, and I think things look good. The facilities are crisp, the teams are on solid footing, and the budget is good.
And that's a huge problem--this is not Stanford. Football is the engine that drives the train, and if football is unhealthy, the train isn't going anywhere.
And, while people are thrilled with how the basketball team is playing, hockey fans are unhappy with certain changes made at Yost, and I believe there's some leftover angst regarding how longstanding basketball ticketholders were treated. So it's not like everything is perfect there.
|4 weeks 6 hours ago||I would guess that neither||
I would guess that neither Harbaugh would ever coach here; however, if we did snag Jim Harbaugh, I really believe that Michigan will win ten games next year at minimum. There are questions about how good the players actually are, but I think they're not nearly as bad as they have looked. A good coach will see immediate results.
|4 weeks 6 hours ago||Bacon is, of course, unhappy||
Bacon is, of course, unhappy with the current Athletic Department; reducing him to the level of Drew Sharp is incredibly unfair and inaccurate, and impugns your reputation more than his.
Not sure what you're getting at regarding the coaching issue--most analysts would agree that coaching is a serious problem in the B1G and a major reason why it is struggling so much. Mid-range teams just aren't competitive, and their coaches impress nobody. Kentucky, basketball-first basement dweller of the SEC, is stealing B1G footprint recruits because programs like Illinois and Purdue can't recruit their way out of a paper bag.
Alvarez and Fry both produced outstanding programs in states that have little native football talent, teams that contended for and won B1G titles against strong programs. Alvarez turned Wisconsin from a perennial doormat to a contender that won Rose Bowls against legit top five teams like the Cade McNown UCLA team that nearly played for a national title in '98.
So nothing you're criticizing here makes sense.
|4 weeks 6 hours ago||You can't keep a college||
You can't keep a college coach in the last year of his contract. You need to either extend him or let him go; keeping Hoke on without an extension would make him the ultimate lame duck. You think he's a lame duck now? Imagine what it will be like recruiting next year when Kelly and Meyer and Dantonio can tell recruits with total honesty that Hoke won't be around next season.
Some of the anti-Brandon rumors suggest that people still like Hoke and that he could get another year, but if things continue to spiral like this I don't see how that happens. If Miles or a Harbaugh would indeed be interested as some people allege (and if that's the case, boy is that a serious failure) the new AD's second job would be to hire them.
|4 weeks 6 hours ago||It is an email to the regents||
It is an email to the regents from a "Michigan Football Captain," but it is not the same thing as the petition that Henson alleges exists. It is pretty clear that it is a different document.
I just checked the article again, Henson has updated with the audio of Bacon, using that as confirmation of the existence of the petition.
|4 weeks 6 hours ago||Doesn't he specifically state||
Doesn't he specifically state that the quoted text is from an email he received? There's even talk on the email about "Yale Van Dyne" elaborating further on an issue. (There is a person that could be checked for validity, if its necessary).
|4 weeks 6 hours ago||As much as one can praise a||
As much as one can praise a line-by-line parsing of third-hand information heard on a small talk radio station regarding rumors of letters that may be written by former players of a struggling team, this post is quality work.
Now, we need to consider these things about Bacon:
1. He has no affection for the currently Department administration. He would be inclined to be sympathetic to RichRod due to his connection from those years, and of course he has since been shunned by the Department for publishing an unfavorable book.
2. He does, surely, have a lot of contacts from that book and other journalistic work that he has done.
3. He has a vested interest in protecting his journalistic reputation, making it far less likely that he'll just casually recite information he read on a self-confessed rumor blogpost as fact. That's a pretty significant piece of information.
4. This is talk radio, where people say things without the best of filters--so inadvertent stream-of-consciousness statements are a possibility.
My conclusion, given all of this, is that Bacon has heard corroborating information about such a letter. He is pretty fair about its impact--it won't have much--but it sounds like it exists. It is, if nothing else, further evidence that the AD does not treat former players well. Ironic, since "Michigan family values" were not a complaint of the current administration but the previous one.
One thing that needs to be noted, again: The email quoted on Henson's post (I'm not sure what I think about all of it, FWIW) is explicitly not the letter in question, but an email obtained (or possibly received) by Henson. Allegedly.
Michigan Football: We don't break down games, we break down email rumors. Catch the Excitement!
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Pretty sure I heard a radio||
Pretty sure I heard a radio interview about (or maybe with) Craig Bohl in which it was explained that Wyoming was a good destination for him because, as a small spot, he can use the same system and philosophies there. He's a small-school guy, and it's not clear that he could translate that to Michigan. Looking past many of his other issues, I believe one of RR's problems is that he only knew how to recruit and plan for a school that couldn't get top guys.
Coordinators are tougher to assess because there's a difference between being a good coordinator and a good head coach (oh, hey there Will Muschamp!). It may be that a guy like Narduzzi is best suited for a coordinator job.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Then how do teams like USC||
Then how do teams like USC and (when they're good) Miami manage to get such great alumni support? Serious question, not doubting you.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||You didn't check in after||
You didn't check in after Penn State, did you?
Look, I really appreciate what you're doing this week. It's easy for people to mindlessly fall in line with the general consensus and repeat talking points about why Hoke needs to be fired. There are occasional accusations of groupthink toward Mgoblog, and you are a great demonstration against this. In fact, I'm going to up vote you just to show that I appreciate your independent thought.
But man, are you wrong. People melt down after every loss. The problem here is that Michigan is ever-more-clearly not delivering on its talent. Two years ago there were injuries and a hard schedule. Last year things were unexpectedly shakey. This year... is year four. These are, except for a brilliantly talented fifth-year quarterback, Hoke's players. And they are losing badly to less talented teams.
Every one of these circumstances is another piece of evidence that things won't get better. So we're not just looking at a bad start--we have history showing us that the team is unlikely to improve, that we will probably be embarrassed by our rivals (again!), that we move again will not compete for a title in a conference that is as weak as it has ever been, and that for any of these things to change we must once again go through a disruptive coaching change.
So there you go.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Don't buy this. He's an||
Don't buy this. He's an embattled coach, that's all. If something were up, we'd already know about it here.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||MAC fans know what they are.||
MAC fans know what they are. Many have loyalties to bigger teams as well as to their MAC school.
FWIW losing doesn't affect me as it used to; but the possibility of a long, un-ending decline that guts a tradition that has always been important to my family is still very frustrating.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I went to a wedding. Saw a||
I went to a wedding. Saw a few minutes on my WatchESPN app. Was kinda glad that I spent more time listening to the a Tigers game, though I briefly found myself throwing Joe Nathan and Brady Hoke into the same sentences with words like "fire."
I am saddened. I want to care. I want to be excited for football on Saturday. I want to enjoy the sounds and the memories. Right now we face a season of emptiness.
There is a chance I will make it to Michigan in November. Work usually keeps me from traveling in the fall, but I could be in A2 the Saturday of the Maryland game. I used to attend every home game; I haven't attended in 10 years. I could take my two oldest girls, continue a longtime family tradition. Sing the Victors. Show them the commemorative brick my Dad and I got. Talk about how Dad (passed away for some time now) used to take me to games, show them where we used to sit. Watch the drum major do his backbend during the fanfare. See the team take the field. With my children for the first time.
And I'm afraid that much of the experience will be gutted. Morose fans watching a dead-man coach play out the string with players who have nothing left to play for. It's awful.
Fix it or fire it.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Of course it does, don't||
Of course it does, don't overreact. If Michigan goes 7-1 the rest of the way, they will have improved by necessity and beaten a major rival on the road. That's significant.
Don't overreact. Before the season many people casually figured a 4-loss season would be okay, not considering how lousy we'd feel after an unacceptable loss like Saturday. It is a similar mistake to suggest that a real run of success should not change opinions.
We are discouraged because we don't think Hoke can win the games necessary to save his job; the team looks bad and the track record of improvement just isn't there. However, if that improvement unexpectedly happened, people should and would feel differently. A 7-1 closing stretch would include at least one of the following: A marked improvement in the offense, or a completely dominant defense that annihilates all comers. In either case, something would look really good on the field, and a win over a rival on the road would be huge.
Your skepticism of the team's ability to accomplish this is warranted; your doubt that it would change his job prospects is not.