landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
|14 hours 59 min ago||QBs are always crucial, of||
QBs are always crucial, of course, so these lists can be weighted a bit oddly. But given that Stanford is fielding a new QB this year I think it's probably a good choice. A Mccaffrey injury could cost them 4-5 games; a Barrett injury might cost 2.
|15 hours 1 min ago||I don't know if we can tell||
I don't know if we can tell this for sure until we see the defense on the field. Last season the most irreplaceable player was, without question, Jabrill Peppers. He might not have been our best player (though he was awesome) but solely for what he meant to the D, he was crucial. His role in the slot was the lynchpin that allowed everything to work.
Whereas Lewis, while dominant, has players that can play his position behind him and be 60% of what he was. Peppers really did not.
It is possible that the personnel and scheme this year (we are told that Brown NEEDS shut-down corners) mean that Lewis is indeed the one. But Peppers does key things on the field that no one else can even approach.
|1 day 14 hours ago||First, this thread title is||
First, this thread title is an all timer.
Second, suspensions like this have a huuuuge influence on a series relative to the severity of the offense. I'm still stung by the Amare Stoudamire suspension from a tight series between the Suns and the Spurs--he basically took three steps off of the bench because Steve Nash was brutally hipchecked into a table and got axed for a game, basically deciding an otherwise great series.
But the Association also has a responsibility to deal with things like this. They automatically toss guys for punching and for really hard fouls. This is fine, as long as guys who engage in cheap stuff that might prompt such retaliation get properly disciplined. If you remove from teams the freedom to deal with something on the court, you must take that responsibility yourself. The NHL has a hard time with this, because it used to be that everything was enforced on the ice, and now there is a weird gray area where it sometimes isn't.
So the NBA has to do something. Maaaaybe there was some exaggerated reaction and maaaaybe Green was just selling the foul, but it looked to me like Green was trying to take a subtle cheap shot and didn't quite nail the "subtle" part. I think you have to suspend him for a game.
Third, FWIW I still enjoy the Warriors and want them to win (though an OKC-Cleveland Finals would be fascinating and I wouldn't mind either of them winning) but Green is a jerk. But I grew up a fan of the Bad Boys, so I understand a guy can be "your" jerk if he's on the right team. It's a part of the game.
|4 days 11 hours ago||How much are you willing to||
How much are you willing to spend? I never bothered with trips to Indiana or Purdue but those are cheap. If you want to make it an "event" the Iowa game this year is a good choice.
Or pull the trigger now for EL or Columbus. Watching Michigan play in Columbus is still a top five experience for me.
|4 days 12 hours ago||The problem with Monaco is||
The problem with Monaco is that the views of the race are 1. Bad and 2. Expensive. It's an exotic locale, but there are a lot of races I would rather attend first.
And if I were in France that list would start with Le Mans as the far and away leader. Great event, great track, great race, and you get 24 hours of excitement instead of < 2.
|6 days 12 hours ago||1. There are replays. 2.||
1. There are replays.
2. Money is a real issue. Someone who has an antenna with Sling can save $40 or $50 a month, which is the "real" cost of acquiring BTN.
3. Saturdays can be busy. Mine sure are. I budget time to watch games but there are times I have to miss a quarter or come back late from halftime.
4. It sounds to me like the OP is trying to miss as little football as possible, thus the use of "strategy." I want to watch Michigan curbstomp UCF and Illinois as much as the next guy, but someone who doesn't have BTN and only wants to go to an establishment, say, three times a year may find that one of those is expendable in the interest of balancing time and budget.
5. It's an "escape" or a "passtime," which means that the point in which it becomes "work" to watch it, many people find the returns diminish.
6. It used to be a fact of life that someone without a lot of money couldn't watch every football game. I have fond memories of listening to Michigan football on the radio because the game wasn't on tv and my family didn't have the cash or time to just shoot out a whole afternoon for my Dad to take me to every game. And road games were even harder.
Following a team without easy access to games on tv can be a challenge, but it can be fun, too. I moved to California in 2005 for school and my wife and I were on such a tight budget that we couldn't afford cable or internet. There was no over-the-air tv where we lived (we were in the LA tv market but too far out to get any signal) and I had to resort to text updates from family and listening to afternoon sports radio for updates.
That led to me following the Michigan-Penn State game from that season on Fox Sports Radio. At the same time, USC was playing Notre Dame in the legendary Bush-Push game (this was, in my opinion, the greatest day in college football history, FWIW). The announcers were feeding us regular updates, so I was able to follow Michigan's desperate last-minute drive down the field while hearing about Dwayne Jarrett's incredible behind-the-back 4th-down catch. USC was threatening and Michigan had fourth down inside the 10 when the program went to the top-of-the-hour break.
I had to sit through five minutes of commercials and final-score updates before I found out what happened.
And I don't care, it was still awesome.
|6 days 12 hours ago||You mean for the playoffs, or||
You mean for the playoffs, or just more regular season events? I don't like the bye-day home-and-homes but back-to-back they can be a lot of fun, especially when you make a trip to attend the road leg.
But home-and-homes are hard for Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Penn State due to distance. It's just a long and expensive trip, period.
|6 days 13 hours ago||The one team bye is pretty||
The one team bye is pretty weird. This beats having the useless play-in round at tournament sites, but it's still odd.
They really should just play everything at home sites. Every team in the conference has a decent arena. If they're worried about ticket sales, just make all rounds a three-game series.
There's no way to do this, but I would love an actual best-of-five series to determine a champion. Doesn't fit the college hockey format, but it would be a blast.
|6 days 13 hours ago||Chicago is such a terrible||
Chicago is such a terrible idea for B1G hockey that I can't even list all of the reasons. I see what you're saying, but you're absolutely wrong.
For starters, events at MSG or Brooklyn are known magnet events planned many months in advance, giving local fans time to plan and budget for a fun time watching their team--a team that usually plays so far away that they have no other opportunity to see them in person. And it's in New York.
In contrast, a tournament in Chicago doesn't have its participants defined until less than a week before the first game. You don't know if or when your team is playing; even if it makes it there is a 50% chance that the first game will take place during the working day, which would require a late use of time off, impossible for people. And if you live in the Chicago area your B1G school has already sent teams to Northwestern and Madison and Champaign-Urbana, or you've driven to West Lafayette or East Lansing or wherever, so it's not your only chance to see your team.
So that point of logic doesn't work.
Point two: The B1G hockey tournament does not draw well when played within a short drive of its largest fanbases. It has absolutely no chance of drawing a good crowd anywhere. It has been played in St. Paul twice and Detroit once. The three local fanbases that had B1G tournaments held near them, fanbases that turn out for other hockey events in droves (UM-MSU sold out the Joe again this year for the stand-alone game, see the first point) have consistently declined to attend.
Minneapolis-St. Paul is the locus of hockey fandom in Minnesota, a state that takes the sport more seriously than any other. It has, in Minnesota, a gigantic (relatively speaking) college hockey fanbase, and a sports culture that cares enough about hockey to justify talking about the college version of the sport on leading drive-time sports radio shows. Average kids know and appreciate the teams and the game. And they have what is still one of the two or three best arenas in the country to play in.
If a hockey tournament cannot succeed in St. Paul, it cannot succeed anywhere in America.
|6 days 13 hours ago||Speaking of coverage, there||
Speaking of coverage, there is buzz on twitter that ABC/ESPN is almost certainly out of the discussion regarding the new B1G tv contract.
I don't think that's good news at all. Speculation that the B1G would be the last conference to benefit from the sports rights bubble seems to have missed the boat; it appears to be the first conference to suffer from the bubble's deflation.
|1 week 1 day ago||BTW pretty clear this isn't||
BTW pretty clear this isn't old news to a lot of people, don't believe it merits deletion. Maybe I didn't know as much as I thought?
|1 week 1 day ago||Fair enough. I think I had||
Fair enough. I think I had heard about the Jones fracture / Kevin Durant parallel over twitter, perhaps it never made it here or wasn't headlined in the same way.
|1 week 1 day ago||I don't want to bag on you,||
I don't want to bag on you, Erik, since you're a quality poster, but wasn't this revealed a couple of weeks ago?
Regardless, what a tough year for Caris. Hate to see this happen to anyone, but especially someone who came back.
|1 week 3 days ago||I didn't play high school||
I didn't play high school sports, so I wouldn't be able to rate much here. But my senior year was the first season of the NTDP program and I wound up in a team sports class (gym where we just played games) with Joey Goodenow, son of NHLPA leader Bob Goodenow and future Spartan hockey grinder.
He was never a top prospect hockey player and of course we were playing games that he wasn't good at. So, the first games we played were football and football-like hodgepodge games and he got picked in the middle of the pack when dividing teams.
Then people saw him play, and he was never picked later than second ever again. It was eye-opening--people who train to be athletes are just incredibly athletic, even if they aren't especially gifted at their particular sport. He was fast, strong, and agile, and just dusted everybody in sports where that mattered.
|1 week 3 days ago||Love is more than a feeling;||
Love is more than a feeling; it's a choice. With my wife I could tell early on that she was someone worth spending my life with (she tells me she knew from the first time we talked seriously. I think she was crazy, but she wound up being correct). Once I knew that she was "right" and that she felt that way about me, I chose. Happened within a couple of months. We got married 51 weeks after that first serious conversation.
And it's been awesome. Which is not to say perfect, because nothing is, but even the challenges have made things better.
No, I didn't use sports as much of a filter. Though we celebrated getting engaged by going to a Michigan Hockey game, so there's that.
|1 week 4 days ago||Me three. I laughed. This is||
Me three. I laughed. This is not Tennessee or something; Hawaii's status is so well-established that nobody takes this seriously. I think it's funny.
I mean, not that Harbaugh won't add him to his throne of skulls, because he will, but this won't be a big deal at the postgame handshake.
|1 week 4 days ago||Look at the bright side, OP:||
Look at the bright side, OP: There's now way you'll get as many downvotes here as the poster of the other thread about this topic that's currently on the board got in that thread for complaining about being negged before this thread is deleted.
|1 week 4 days ago||Interesting point. Excelling||
Interesting point. Excelling in areas where he can unleash his raw physical talent, growing in areas where he needs to develop.
It's hard to know what is reasonable to expect from Gary. On the one hand, he's a true freshman, and the DLine is already great, so he doesn't need to be the fulcrum of it on every down. So we don't want to assume that he'll be dominating on every play. It's very easy to envision the DL playing well without requiring him to emerge as a dominant force right away.
On the other hand he has received hype on par with few other players coming out of high school. Jadaveon Clowney type attention, and we know what he could do. And he brings a set of tools to the table that suggest he could do in college what JJ Watt is doing in the NFL.
So it's hard to know.
But it should be a lot of fun to find out.
|1 week 4 days ago||I'll start by saying that I||
I'll start by saying that I would be delighted if Speight proved me wrong about this. That said:
I believe O'Korn, based on his known skillset, has a significantly higher ceiling than Speight. Speight may indeed grow in his confidence, understanding of the offense, and skills, but I have yet to see anything from him that suggest that he can evolve past the game-manger stage and into a guy that makes great plays. You know, a guy on the level of second-half Rudock last season.
To me, based on little evidence, Speight pushing O'Korn says some good things about him (could he be the guy we thought we were getting in Rudock? maybe) but says more negatively about O'Korn's ability to consistently make the correct decisions and accurate throws that Harbaugh wants. O'Korn has the physical ability to do great things on offense, and there's no doubt that Harbaugh likes what that brings to the table. If he reaches that potential, Michigan's offense can be awesome.
So if he can't do enough to make Michigan's offense awesome, they'r better with "consistent," even if that means the deep ball just isn't getting there. That's my concern. And while Michigan could still head into Columbus with an opportunity to win the division, O'Korn reaching his ceiling could be the difference between a really good season and a real chance to win the national title.
|1 week 4 days ago||I find your arguments very||
I find your arguments very persuasive. I don't like the idea of a conference missing out two years in a row while the rest make it, but the Pac 12 does not have an obvious dominant team. Meanwhile, the other three non-B1G conferences are all top-heavy and should produce a team with a quality win or two and an acceptable record.
To be honest, the B1G could be worrisome. If Michigan runs the table, of course, we're in--but lose two of our tough road games and all bets are off for the whole conference. OSU could easily lose to Oklahoma early, drop one more game in the conference, and have no shot at the playoff. MSU is likely to regress. Nobody from the west is going to get any respect at all.
It could be Michigan or bust.
...So let's make it Michigan.
|1 week 5 days ago||"The first rule of||
"The first rule of mgoblog..."
Seriously, if someone has it out for you, just ignore them. Post better content and people will upvote you.
And, also seriously, don't upvote yourself. Cheesy.
|1 week 5 days ago||You must've bought a car||
You must've bought a car earlier than me, I've only received approximately 7,593 of those.
|1 week 5 days ago||The downside to Sirius is||
The downside to Sirius is that if you really don't feel like paying for radio they will never, ever stop pestering you to re-subscribe.
The upside is that if you feel like paying for radio is this comment, though, so I guess there's a positive in this.
|1 week 5 days ago||There are good reasons to||
There are good reasons to compare across other like populations, but you are correct. It's not unreasonable to ask the question, "does playing pro football make your life worse than not playing at all." Well, here is one data point, and it suggests that a pro football career, on balance, does not make one more likely to commit suicide.
Of course there's a lot of other data we don't have. But this is correct. You are also correct to point out that the athletes don't usually have options. This is not "Choose Your Own Adventure" where a young guy is guaranteed to be a star athlete and just has to pick a sport. Tyson Chandler probably couldn't have built a Major League Baseball career, and Peyton Manning likely wouldn't have made the NBA. Their gifts have a particular benefit in one sport.
|1 week 5 days ago||It does work for most of us||
It does work for most of us but my impression is that it depends somewhat on the infrastructure produced by the pay sites. When we REALLY want to know something that's not easy to know we as fans and free content producers lean on guys like Sam Webb, who work for the pay sites.
I'm not going to pay for stuff, but I'm glad that there are people that do and support it, because that means good information trickles in the direction of us freeloaders.
That said, three sites is indeed probably serious overkill.
|1 week 6 days ago||Yeah. Stinks. That's||
Yeah. Stinks. That's baseball.
The part that's really tough about it is that, unlike other bullpen failures, that one was not inevitable or obvious. Benoit had closed well that season.
But it only took one pitch.
|1 week 6 days ago||Figures||
|1 week 6 days ago||Hahahahahahaha||
|2 weeks 11 hours ago||I suggested after the Florida||
I suggested after the Florida win that Michigan would be a preseason top 5 team so I'm not stunned here. I think 3 is a bit high, maybe, but not excessively so.
People suggesting 7-12 is more appropriate are totally mystifying me. I mean, we are just talking about meaningless polls here, but do people really think that Jim Harbaugh with a boatload of returning seniors including all of the key athletes from a top-3 defense last year (that just imported the coach of the talentless #1 defense) is going to regress?
Yeah, QB is a major issue, and I think Michigan's preseason hype will falter a bit if the noise coming out of the Fort is uncertain in late August. But Michigan returns guys everywhere else that Harbaugh turned into big-time winners.
Let's put it this way: If Michigan was ranked #12, that puts them behind one or two B1G schools and at least 5 SEC schools. Now, in terms of the B1G, Michigan is not an overwhelming favorite but they are certainly a guarded favorite given the difference between who is returning between us and our two big rivals. No other B1G team is close. That makes us a leading candidate to get to the playoff. That's close to top 5 right there without even considering the actual merits of the team.
But worse than 5 SEC teams? Yeah, LSU and Bama are loaded. But we just torched a team that played in the SEC championship game last season. That stuff matters for preseason polls.
It's just a poll, and its ultimate impact is slim, but this is not ridiculous at all. Michigan's schedule practically guarantees that they will be top three by the time they play the first really challenging games, and if they post a couple of key road wins, an undefeated record heading into Columbus is a good bet.
That's why the rankings look like this.
|2 weeks 11 hours ago||They've lost a lot of good||
They've lost a lot of good players but they have demonstrated that they can reload.
More importantly, they still have Deshaun Watson. A QB like that makes up for a lot of flaws. As long as he's healthy, every accolade they get is deserved.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Spielman is a great analyst,||
Spielman is a great analyst, one of the best in the business. He knows the game, loves the game, and communicates it well; he is, in the booth, totally fair to Michigan. Sure, he has criticized them... when they were terrible and deserved it.
I don't mind Millen as an analyst. The problem is that analyzing football =/= having the necessary abilities to manage a football team.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||That's true. It's why most||
That's true. It's why most people think an 8-team playoff, however problematic it may be, is a logical end-game.
My general position is that an 8-team playoff is ok if they give the Power 5 autobids and one autobid to the best team out of a lower conference, leaving only two at-large spots for whichever SEC team lost to Alabama and someone else that might be Notre Dame.
The reason I favor this is that it continues to preserve most of the intensity of the regular season games in conference. Huge in-conference rivalries remain huge because a loss can still wreck the season. It dilutes things a bit, since a team like OSU last season still probably gets in, but a lot of things remain the same.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||I think you're spot on with||
I think you're spot on with this.
Including, of course, the part about there being other reasons to suspect.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||I don't know that the||
I don't know that the revelation that some of the victims being compensated were attacked as early as 1971 tells us anything about what JoePa knew. Penn State is likely to pay out to any credible victim regardless of who knew what when; this is both a moral action and a pragmatic one, since not compensating some victims would result in lawsuits they would probably lose.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Except you have neither read||
Except you have neither read the article nor many of the comments on this thread which clearly specify that payments only began after the scandal was exposed and victims were revealed; what dates back to 1971 is the actual abuse. Some of the victims attacked in that time frame are among those now receiving compensation--they were not being paid hush money prior to the scandal's national revelation.
So your scenario proceeds from a false premise.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Hard to believe that||
Hard to believe that something like this gets wide enough rumors for Bo to hear about but that nothing ever comes up in one single news report until almost two decades later.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||He made it up. It's||
He made it up. It's fiction.
Look, Paterno appears to have engaged in criminal and immoral neglect; this is absolutely awful. But misleading headlines like the ones at the head of this thread, and posts like the one here that claim authority but are figments of an author's imagination, are still dumb. And in the case of the comment, dumb and wrong.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Glad to see Woodson getting a||
Glad to see Woodson getting a spot, and I've never cared for Ray Lewis as an analyst; he adds nothing.
But I liked Chris Carter and thought he did a good job. He offered reasonable insight and passion, and had moments where he really shined. This is too bad.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Since this is a dead-end||
Since this is a dead-end thread thanks to mis-reading of the content of the article, I may as well discuss the NCAA sanctions issue. There has been much discussion about whether or not NCAA involvement is appropriate for this sort of massively criminal, massively immoral situation.
Some of the arguments given:
CON: Just as it is not the jurisdiction of a football coach, a university president, or the NCAA to prosecute and imprison players and/or students for rape, theft or murder, it is not the NCAA's job to deal with serious abuse. Student athletes are punished for the actions of someone that was not a part of the program at any time while they were involved in it. Also sets a precedent for the NCAA adjudicating legal issues (rather than infractions within their own regulations) in other programs.
PRO: This was a truly monstrous infraction. It involved failures from many people employed by the football program. And, crucially, it is quite possible that a contributing factor in the failure to properly report allegations of abuse was an effort to protect the football program itself. That is, they may have at least in part chosen an immoral and illegal course of action to win. No program should be allowed to participate in the perpetuation of such evil for the purpose of winning games.
BONUS CON: The punishment meted out to Penn State was the strongest punishment in the history of the NCAA not to include the death penalty, and was based on the information involved at the time. Penn State DID suffer for its failure. Further enforcement activity now would punish even newer players for even older infractions; infractions dating back before the lifetimes of half the country. Infractions that took place in a time span where other revealed infractions (the open discussion of free cash payments on behalf of the old SWC schools, etc) are not touched due to age.
I understand the CON issue and respect it, but the PRO argument carried weight with me when the original enforcement occurred. However, I also fall into the "Bonus Con" category here. I think it was proper for the NCAA to do something before. I do not think it is productive to visit this again.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||In the ACC and the Big 12 we||
In the ACC and the Big 12 we certainly have our two likeliest candidates for dissolution. My guess is that the Big 12 is more vulnerable; the ACC has more desirable targets, but also has a more cohesive conference culture that crosses to other sports. The Big 12 has two big shots in football, and the whole edifice crumbles if they decide the grass is greener somewhere else. And rumors suggest that has come close to happening before.
So, simply from a standpoint of probable scenarios, it seems more likely to me that the Big 12 gets put to the sword first. The talk about expansion smacks of desperation, and it appears that it is not going over well with every party. And who would they pull? Unless a big boy like Florida State defects (plausible) they will not enhance the conference's football standing in any way other than raw numbers, and they've already made desperation plays for schools like WVU that don't really fit.
The ACC has its own challenges, but it has a basketball locus that at least has some influence, attractive markets like Boston, and a deal with Notre Dame that at least brings some benefit. And with football driving the expansion train, the only tempting targets are FSU (who could be gettable) and Clemson (of whom I have heard no movement talk at all).
If a conference reduction is to occur, that means that other conferences are going to grow by necessity. The Big Ten and/or the SEC are going to lead the charge if that is ever to occur.
The Big Ten doesn't want Clemson or Florida State. Schools like Duke and Ga Tech (we used to be able to throw UNC in here, too) are good academic and department fits, but they aren't football powers. The Big Ten's natural final two are Notre Dame... and Texas.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||I could see that initial||
I could see that initial scenario in the 70s being true. It's possible that something is just too horrible to comprehend. This doesn't excuse letting it go, but it can be understood without assuming that malice was involved. Your post is plausible, though of course we have no evidence either way.
However, the instant a second, independent allegation arose, Paterno needed to be decisive, and he was not. It's hard being decisive in this sort of situation; I've had to call authorities to report abuse I've heard about before myself, and I am totally anonymous. But it needs to happen. It should have been addressed the first time he heard something, and failures after the second time become complicity whether that was Paterno's motive or not.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Here's the issue: If the||
Here's the issue:
If the McQueary incident is the first time that Paterno has heard about Sandusky, he is at that time already an old man, doubtlessly shocked to hear that someone he considered if not a friend at least a long-time "normal" co-worker could do such a thing. He passes the information up the chain. Nothing happens, and perhaps this inexcusable failure can at least be explained by a combination of senility and shock that something like that could be happening under one's nose. After all, you would be pretty blown away to find that a friend you've worked with daily for 20+ years is doing something so horrible. That's the "benefit of the doubt" scenario.
If Paterno has heard multiple people make accusations over decades, there is no benefit of the doubt.
I don't know what extent is rumor and what is accurate; the testimony is sealed, and the SI media report of one accuser, while thorough, isn't proof.
I tried to do a little discussion of the "benefit of the doubt" side regarding the administration after the initial scandal. However, if Paterno heard even one of these alleged reports from earlier and continued to do nothing even with an eye-witness report of McQueary (remember that one of the arguments is that McQueary's actual report became "sanitized" and didn't fully relate the graphic details, but someone who already suspected misbehavior should have alarm bells going off when he hears it) then his failure to act can only be described as monstrous.
And the "era" is no excuse. Abuse like this didn't just become horrendous in the 1990s. It always has been.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Some of the initial thoughts||
Some of the initial thoughts were interesting--focusing on a conference's own region instead of others, stuff like that--but he totally lost me with how he actually worked all of this out.
The short version: his proposal is to re-align a couple of geographically mismatched teams, throw ND into the B1G, and add a bunch of lesser schools to all of the conferences to reach 16 for each. So, for example, Cincinnatti becomes a Big Ten school, UNLV joins the Pac 12, and Memphis joins the SEC. That sort of thing.
So his new alignment is the worst of all worlds. He wants to keep the playoff at four (so do I) but he adds teams to conferences to get to two 8-team divisions for each (hey, Michigan will play in Minnesota once every 10 years, works great for me) and keeps the awkward 5-conference arrangement. While basically destroying the fabric of the sport anyway.
So it's actually really, really stupid.
If we are going to completely reshape the landscape of college football, at least do it in a way that fixes the problems that we have. A 4-team playoff keeps the tension high in the regular season, but the existence of five conferences (plus a couple of independents) means that it has an inherent problem every year. The idea of blowing everything up and not fixing this is absurd.
As long as we are blowing up conferences and adopting 8-team divisions (that are basically mini-conferences in themselves) we might as well make the conference championship games a de-facto quarterfinal round and eliminate a conference. The Big 12's issues suggest to me that they might be the best choice for the chopping block (make a Pac 12 East division with some of the Texas teams, but bump Texas & Oklahoma to the B1G west, etc) but YMMV. Adding mediocre teams that can't compete with the big boys is a terrible idea.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||"Can the Scarlet Knights||
"Can the Scarlet Knights Counter? We'll find out soon."
This is an actual quote from the column.
I mean, I saw BryMac tweet about how incredible it was, but I figured it was hyperbolic. I mean, how funny can a a short complaint about Michigan satellite camping in NJ be? My click was reluctant.
Boy was I wrong. Politi has a gift. I didn't know you could make a raging inferiority complex sound so hilarious. Seriously, MSU columnists have been doing this for DECADES and never produced something this glorious.
All I can say is, "Wow."
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I'm not always able to||
I'm not always able to mentally engage in baseball or softball, especially with how busy I am when they are playing, but I appreciate the score headline threads even when I just scan them for a result. Same for sports like lacrosse. Keep them coming, people who post them, they are appreciated even when we don't comment or log in to upvote.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||OSU will always get the cream||
OSU will always get the cream of Ohio, excepting for anyone we can spirit away.
Cincy is a much bigger concern for teams like Kentucky and second-tier B1G schools that play for the guys OSU doesn't take. They'll never get to OSU's level, but in the right hands they can put up good records and be a scary trip for the Oklahomas and Texases.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||My wife had two miscarriages,||
My wife had two miscarriages, and it was very hard, but not on the scale of losing a child whom we had met and held an intellectual relationship with. Still, quite bad.
A late-term stillbirth, of a baby who would be healthy if born that very day or week, is much worse. I worked admitting for L&D for three years in California, and the days that happened (three when I was there) are etched in memory. They were awful, awful days for every person there, much less the family suffering the loss.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||BTW on point three, I have||
BTW on point three, I have not lost a child but I have lost a parent, and my experience (which I had time to prepare for and expect) suggests to me that it would be far more difficult to lose one of my children. Part of the issue is the expectation that our children will outlive us, our own hope for their futures.
Also, because any bad thing that happens to my kids I would rather have happen to me.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Indeed it is. FWIW I blogged||
Indeed it is.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||My thoughts on this thread||
My thoughts on this thread are mostly outside the scope of this board (note my occupation), so I have little helpful to add, though I have prayed for some of the people mentioned here. Death is a part of life, but it is also a universal source of grief and suffering for those who survive others.
And it can be a part of the human experience that helps others find common ground with people very different than them, as I've seen here. I appreciate people sharing difficult stories here.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I am relatively lucky, since||
I am relatively lucky, since I have only lost my father. It was cancer, it was earlier than it could have been, and I've coped fine.
But there are still moments I grieve intensely. They are more spaced out, but they come. As they will with everyone.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Yes, you have the wording||
Yes, you have the wording precisely. No, I didn't have to look it up, and I'm sure you didn't, either.
It is easier for me to remember, since that is still largely how I remember the Stadium, since I no longer live in the area. But it is etched.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I left Michigan in 2005, and||
I left Michigan in 2005, and while I like Grapentine and of course heard him narrate the band countless times, Howard King is the voice of the Stadium to me. I remember hearing him announce plays while walking to the Stadium just a few minutes late with my Dad, as a kid. The sound was magical. And I remember his "Good Afternoon" call in early September that signaled the start of football season, and the "Good Afternoon" call that gave you chills before a game against Ohio State.
I still say Good Afternoon in much the same way. It may have started as a conscious effort, but now it is just the way I talk.
He was terrific. I still miss hearing his addresses.
|3 weeks 9 hours ago||No list like this is going to||
No list like this is going to be perfect. I find this one to be pretty good. Some of the guys might be more appropriately cases of overhype, but a lot of them genuinely did have the potential to be HOF players in their sports.
I'm not sure if Vince Young really belongs in this category. There have been so many "bust" QBs that it's hard to say which ones really should've been better. I tend to think that guys with the right physical tools and game styles are the ones that are really disappointing, and Vince Young did not have the classic drop-back passer toolset. He could run well and he could pass decently, but none of those characteristics are surefire ways to build a top-end NFL QB.
Not compared to Leaf and Henson.
Bo Jackson is kind of a hybrid here; he had as much potential as any athlete in history, but unlike many of the others he actually produced greatness on professional teams. Maybe not as much as he could have, but with the possible exception of Mark Prior's early career nobody on this list comes close to realizing the moments that Bo did. His game in Seattle alone practicallhy disqualifies him from this list. But he could have been so much more, so I guess he's here.
I appreciate that this list does not differentiate between people whose own stupidity destroyed their career and those who were cut off by injury. This makes this list better than a list of "busts," which to me has more of a negative conontation suggesting that a draft pick was a mistake.
Drafting Tony Mandarich is a bust situation--he was a mistake. But it's not Cincinnatti's fault that Ki-Jana Carter's knee shredded to ribbons the first time he stepped on the field, nor the Bulls fault that Jay Williams crashed his bike and nearly died. Those are injuries. Bad luck, maybe even some bad judgment, but not the same as Ryan Leaf.
|3 weeks 9 hours ago||Hindsight is 50-50. Henson||
Hindsight is 50-50. Henson chose poorly to leave when he did; there is still no guarantee that he would have been a hit in the NFL, and if you were to choose between being a good-but-not-great player in MLB or NFL, MLB offers better health and better pay for equivalent talent.
The problem is that his ceiling turned out to be a lot higher in football than in baseball.
|3 weeks 9 hours ago||Tebow had "hype," not pro||
Tebow had "hype," not pro potential. I don't believe there was any point in his career where people looked at his game and thought that he had hall-of-fame tools.
Nobody seriously wonders "what could've been" with Tebow. Not even his fans. They wanted to see him get a shot, yes, but he basically maxed out what he was capable of in the pros. That is entirely unlike most of the other people on that list.
|3 weeks 11 hours ago||MSU over Stanford is not a||
MSU over Stanford is not a good data point here. MSU lost to a worse team, yes, but it was on the road, it was flukey, and they had two HUGE road wins plus a home win against a real non-conference team, and they beat an undefeated team on a neutral field. Meanwhile, Stanford lost an extra game.
Losing is always going to hurt. And it may be better to keep the schedule a bit lighter. But when subjected to like comparisons (same number of losses, etc) schedule is going to matter. The idea that a program has "cache" to get it into the playoff simply doesn't hold water, based on the evidence we've seen so far.
It's not that you don't have a point, but your logic to back it up is flawed.
|3 weeks 11 hours ago||That's a point. Still, it's||
That's a point. Still, it's not wise to bank on the possibility that an opponent may be missing somebody. As much as an opponent's personnel and activity determine what a team will do, coaches are still mostly concerned with their own team executing the plan well, and missing a key guy hurts that quite a bit.
I don't think any team that plans to contend for the playoff expects to be in a position where their best chance is another team missing a player. That is, essentially, expecting to be inferior. If you are a playoff-type team, you expect to be equal to or better than your opponent, and in that situation the variable risk of a key player being suspended seems worse than the possibility that a better player might get axed from the other side.
My thoughts here also apply to "good" but not "great" opponents. You know, mid-level Pac 10 teams that Michigan ought to beat but aren't nobodies. Now, on the flip side, a team like that (let's say, someone like Arizona or Texas Tech) can take on this kind of game since a situation where they are favored to lose can flip if a star player is out, and if they lose a guy their chances weren't as good anyway.
|3 weeks 11 hours ago||I think this is a good point||
I think this is a good point as well, and it used to be an issue in the late 80s when we would play Notre Dame in their powerhouse Holtz days as our first game while they already had one under their belt.
Michigan may not have a huge number of issues, but they do come up. Remember, Graham Glasgow got suspended in 2014 and nearly got the axe again last season. And you yourself have argued that certain recreational activities that are against team (and NCAA) rules are neither a big deal nor atypical for a college student, so you doubtless wouldn't be shocked to see a Michigan player accidently caught in a situation that forced Harbaugh to sit him. It can happen.
|3 weeks 11 hours ago||tl;dr Someone on your team is||
tl;dr Someone on your team is going to do something stupid and have to miss a game, so don't play anyone that you might need them for.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Apart from the massive case||
Apart from the massive case of amnesia (I understand, the NCAA tournament format makes it difficult to enjoy a good first-round win if you lose the next day, but it DID happen), the snark toward Red is harsh. Now, it is possible that he has lost his fastball.
But the whole reason most of us even care about Michigan Hockey is Red Berenson. He was Harbaugh before Harbaugh--Michigan man, pro player, successful pro coach, came home to coach his old program when it was suffering through its darkest moments.
He built the team into such a perennial contender that it far-and-away set the record for consecutive tournament appearances. He won two national titles. He made numerous other Frozen Fours. On his watch Yost went from a lifeless barn to one of the great home advantages in sports (now Yost has lost a bit, too, but it's still a great place).
I don't get hooked on Michigan Hockey without Red.
So, as a fan of Michigan Hockey, whether he is handling it in the best way or not, he has earned the right to call his shot.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Yes. He is explosively fast,||
Yes. He is explosively fast, a hard hitter, and while a bit raw in coverage he can handle himself fine. He was a borderline All-American as a redshirt freshman. He is fast and agile and hard-hitting and would crush the combine. Definitely a first-rounder.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Maybe bullish, but only||
Maybe bullish, but only slightly. Peppers has as much athleticism as anyone who has ever played at Michigan. He was an All-American this past season in some locations and was absolutely dominant in his defensive role despite having missed enough of his first season to earn a redshirt.
And he's not "just a safety." He is a hybrid defender that can cover receivers (if he grows in this area in '16, look out) and defend the run and destroy the edge of any offense. In today's football with spread formations the new norm, he is the rare player that can defend both run and pass in a dominant way.
His versatility will make him more desirable, not less. Just a few years ago an aging Charles Woodson won the NFL DPOY operating in the position that Peppers is born for. Every DC in the League wants a guy like him.
The fact that he is called a "safety" is not because he plays a less critical position, but because he is so talented that restricting him to mere cornerbacking would be a waste of brilliant talent. So, comparisons with Berry's career accolades are not really the way to go (though Peppers compares pretty favorably, honestly).
Peppers would've been a sure-fire first rounder this past Thursday had he been eligible. If his game continues to improve this season, he is going to be a dominant player that will be drafted extremely high.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||I don't have the same||
I don't have the same distaste for Meyer that many others in this thread do, though of course like anyone he has his issues. (This is not to say that I am right and others are wrong, just how I see things). In correlation, I take his explanation for why he left Florida and his later marriage to OSU at face value. I think he *did* overwork himself at Florida and on a personal level I hope for him that he has been able to moderate his workload in his new job.
And that would suggest that part of the problem with OSU's lack of adjustment last season is that Meyer delegates far more responsibilities than he used to. It makes him dependent upon quality staff. This is generally a good thing, but when you have a coordinator who is struggling in an area, you are exposed for a longer period of time.
Meyer had in Tom Herman a guy who appears to be on the fast track to stardom. He poached Tim Beck, who was highly thought of, but made some errors; because he (in my working theory) leads a more balanced life, he was less capable of adapting to the situation early, because he no longer works the absurd hours so typical of his position.
If he can make that decision and live with the occasional loss in this way, I respect that a great deal. And, for what it's worth, my impression is that Harbaugh also tries to support people spending time with their families, as seen in the anecdote of him and his wife watching the kids of their assistants in San Francisco so that the assistants could take their wives on a date. Tons of respect for that.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah hur hur hur the NBA||
Yeah hur hur hur the NBA players are lazy & the sport stinks.
Just imagine how many games Golden State coulda won if they had actually taken them seriously.
Want a /s tag?
|3 weeks 3 days ago||I'm bullish on Houma and||
I'm bullish on Houma and Kerridge making it in the NFL. Their skillset isn't the sort of thing people look for in the draft, and the game has evolved significantly, but when you come down to it a lot of teams still need a guy to be a backfield run-blocker, and they can do it. Seems likely they'll find a place to catch on, see the field a decent amount, and scratch out a career for a couple of years.
Really, nobody knows who any fullbacks are in the NFL, because they all came into the league as guys like Kerridge and Houma.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I don't think that's a good||
I don't think that's a good point at all. MSU isn't one of those schools, and Oregon isn't one of those schools (they were irrelevant before Phil Knight poured money into them) and there's no sniffing around them, and USC *is* one of those schools and got hammered.
Ole Miss suddenly became a recruiting destination, and commits tweeted pictures of large amounts of cash, and there was all kinds of talk, and now there's an alleged series of texts and a confused admission after the draft. If they get taken down, it's because there's a real fire under this smoke, not because they're not supposed to win.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Look, I've already gone out||
Look, I've already gone out on a limb about some of his indiscretions and I have a more negative opinion of them than most on this board.
But I doubt there is anybody here who hasn't done some things that have been embarrassing or regretable in their lives. Stuff that, if it were broadcast even to just our extended family, would be cause for serious humiliation and/or anguish.
This guy's dirty laundry was just exposed to a national audience and is, to this point, the most dramatic plot twist in the history of the NFL Draft, one of the sports nation's touchstone events. It is quite possible that Tunsil will never achieve anything that overshadows this moment on the public consciousness.
And that's awful. Whatever one may think of whether his recorded actions, they do not merit the treatment he has received.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I don't like the wimp-out lie||
I don't like the wimp-out lie here. Nobody in the world thinks this is true. I wish they would just say that he is not attending. Honestly, I can't blame him--his life changed so rapidly last night and people are only beginning to see where this is headed. The presser would be a circus, doing neither him nor his new team any good at all.
Just own up and cancel. Don't give a reason. Say he's not coming. Nobody blames him.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Ping me on twitter if you're||
Ping me on twitter if you're interested in a brief elaboration (I have the same handle there). This isn't the venue for it.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||No, it's not. I said in the||
No, it's not. I said in the original post you are critiquing that he "may or may not" have character issues. You've taken issue with that. But you said yourself that EVERYBODY may or may not have character issues, which is kind of my point. I did not say he "definitely" has character issues and my main point is that this is mostly just a terrible event for him.
I brought up smoking weed to illustrate that my opinion of this is not shaped by my endorsement of weed but by my repulsion toward someone trying to harm someone else.
You seem to think that my negative opinion toward marijuana means that I condemn him as a person and/or player. But that comes from a prejudicially false view that someone cannot disagree with an aspect of a person's behavior (present or, as this may be, past) without writing them off entirely.
And that's rather shortsighted.
I suspect that some players I root for engage in activity similar to this and to other areas of human behavior that I have moral views about. This does not stop me from rooting for them or from liking them. Were they to seek my guidance in the wider scope of life, I would advise them (if they were engaged in such activities) that they could make better choices.
But I am not in that position and have no desire to force them into putting me or someone like me into that position. Holding views on certain areas of morality is not at all the same as advocating for those views to be enforced on all people, nor do those views require someone to agree and uphold in all areas to be accepted or "liked."
I don't agree with the behavior depicted in the video. Whether it is a character issue that would affect one's job as a football player or not (if it is a young guy being stupid months or years ago, not really; if it was filmed last week, it would suggest a Johnny Manziel-style impulse problem. I have no reason not to believe his assertion that it was old) cannot be determined from the video and I never claimed that it could be.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||How about just letting them||
How about just letting them make NIL money? Would be a free-for-all but wouldn't actually affect the other students.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||It's not smart. It's also not||
It's not smart. It's also not time stamped. He could've been 18 when it was taken. Or it could've been a year ago. Stupid, sure. Does it mean he can't block in the NFL? I don't know.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||The gas mask, yes. I have a||
The gas mask, yes. I have a lot of respect for how he handled it.
Oh, money. Uh...
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I wasn't the one pulling him||
I wasn't the one pulling him off of my draft board like the Baltimore Ravens. "Might" means that he may and he may not, and suggests that the evidence doesn't really tell us what we need to know. Perhaps read the post without beng predisposed to interpret my motives in the worst possible light.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||You probably don't want to||
You probably don't want to get into my theological views on this, and this is certainly not the place. The point of establishing my view it to clarify that I'm not a huge fan of his alleged behavior, but that to me this is still an ugly act against him.
None of us here want our worst private moments broadcast to the world at a time we are supposed to be excited. I don't wish it on anybody.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Wow. Bad for Ole Miss. I'm a||
Wow. Bad for Ole Miss.
I'm a bit mixed on the issue for Tunsil. This is one situation where I actually can believe he was hacked--no one is stupid enough to post that stuff on their own.
So this appears to be character assassination.
Now, there are some people on this board who will say, "I don't care about weed, it's NBD." I am not one of those people. I think it's serious.
Tunsil has apparently copped to the video but says it was from years ago. I can say this: it wasn't from this afternoon. So if he did it, dumb move. Not pleased with it. But, uh, he wouldn't be the only one getting drafted today.
So what we have here is a character assassination. Mean-spirited and vengeful. Someone (we can guess it is his stepdad) is trying to hurt him on what should be a good night for him.
And I'm not cool with that at all. Tunsil may or may not have character issues, but this is wrong and I feel bad for him.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Nice little olive branch||
Nice little olive branch after the mini-feud with Kirby Smart, too. Georgia, which appears to be less awful than its peers down there, is a natural ally.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||That's a +1 from me.||
That's a +1 from me.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I doubt anything comes of||
I doubt anything comes of this. Alabama is doing its own investigation and the NCAA (as has been their policy for pretty much everybody) will take it at face value. Bama won't let this get too deep, even if there is stuff to dig into.
The only thing that would really unravel the corruption I would believe exists in the SEC is a serious violation of Federal Law that brings legal investigation into the mix. You know, the same sort of thing that nailed Ed Martin and virtually every other major cheating scandal in recent years.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||This is a Michigan fan blog.||
This is a Michigan fan blog. We have crazy people here.
And if I saw a picture with this level of detail I could pretty much identify any game from the early 90s onward. And I am not in any way alone.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||The opponent is wearing white||
The opponent is wearing white pants, which eliminates the Miami games and the 1988 Indiana game, as well as the 1989 Wisconsin game.
Maryland did sometimes where red pants in the 80s, so it's possible that this can narrow down those options as well.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Do they also specify that the||
Do they also specify that the LED roof has been scrapped, or are you surmising?
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I'm not much for "stuff," but||
I'm not much for "stuff," but I am a big fan of jerseys. My favorite Michigan object is unquestionably my game-worn dazzle maize script hockey jersey (originally property of freshman defenseman Tim Cook, still has his name and number on it) that I won in the jersey auction after the 03-04 season. Modeled here at the second game of the Michigan-Minnesota series at Mariucci this winter.
The dazzle maize jerseys with the script, both in the title years and the era that I am wearing here, are by far my favorites. Which is why I went to the expense of purchasing one, back when I had extra money.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||This is a good point. Wasn't||
This is a good point. Wasn't this something that was rumored to be on the table already?
|3 weeks 5 days ago||If they get their own||
If they get their own division, separate from 1-AA (which would give us 3 Division 1 subdivisions, not something I expect to happen) they can just go all-in for their own 16-team playoff.
And that would be a lot of fun.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||As mentioned above, TCU and||
As mentioned above, TCU and Utah were both mid-majors in their glory years and were so successful that they received major conference bids. Louisville also had a lot of success while in Conference USA, though their move to the ACC was not a football-only marriage.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I would hope that if some||
I would hope that if some movement occurs to establish a "Power 5" division or some such that a few of the better non-P5 schools get a bump under whatever Notre Dame clause is produced. BYU, Boise, etc.
A Power 5 division might wind up having to be a Power 6 division, or a division in which existing conference affiliations are significantly restructured. We're already getting there in the B1G, and if the occasionally discussed (at least by us) 16-team league happens the B1G as we know it is basically already gone.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I'm definitely on board here.||
I'm definitely on board here. I mean, really, hearing that Idaho was dropping a division to play against teams like Montana and NDSU... it's not much different at all, is it? How much worse could it be for EMU to play Youngstown State instead of Bowling Green? They might as well all be in the same pool.
FWIW I don't mind Michigan playing one of these snacks a year, and I kind of like giving the smaller local schools a chance to come to Michigan Stadium. But let's call it what it is.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Ilitch got a lot of flak in||
Ilitch got a lot of flak in the early 00s for the fact that the Wings were great but that he seemed not to care about the Tigers.
He gave a press conference and said, basically, that critics had a point. And that he was going to do everything he could to make the Tigers a winner.
And that's exactly what he did. There's rarely a reason to be IMPRESSED with the actions of a team owner, but Ilitch's follow-through on a commitment that I thought was just a bluff was total.
They didn't win a title, but it's not for lack of trying. They made the World Series twice. They produced two different Cy Young Pitchers and two different MVP winners (of course, this makes the failure to win the Championship more painful). They were relevant, and in a time in my life where it is hard to stay in touch with friends and family due to distance, they were a personal touchstone to me and many other Michigan residents and ex-pats that we could enjoy and share together on a daily basis.
Ilitch made the Wings winners and he tried his hardest to make the Tigers as well. Those of us who are fans of those teams could not possibly ask for a better owner. We will miss him when he is gone.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I noticed the font on "arena"||
I noticed the font on "arena" right away, too. I like the puck, but the lettering... they'll have to do something.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Nobody would blame you for||
Nobody would blame you for that... if you didn't just make a comment that claimed knowledge of future roster prospects.
You spoke out of ignorance. A response of integrity would look something like, "Oh, wow, I don't follow prospect rankings, that's good to know. I guess I spoke too soon."
Instead you're trying to squirm out of it. Eat the crow you've plated for yourself.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||My local Caesar's is doing||
My local Caesar's is doing just fine. I'm friends with the owner.
How, you ask? Well, we're both from Michigan (though he left many years ago), so we talk Tigers. And, uh, I get pizza there a lot.
He feeds me good intel (for example, the Deep Deep Dish is at least partially inspired by Jet's Pizza--he left Michigan without knowing what Jet's was, but that was the information that came to him. Makes sense). He tells me they are selling just fine.
By the way, nobody who looks down their nose at cheap pizza has kids at home. Guaranteed.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I strongly, strongly suspect||
I strongly, strongly suspect this is not aimed at stupidity at all, but at corruption. A team losing by one goal in injury time may pull a goalie forward, and a guy on the take for a two-goal loss could in that scenario deliberately score on his own goal to make the line. Obviously it would be career suicide, but this appears to remove the incentive for a free own goal.
A distant scenario, yes, but I don't mind them closing loopholes when they have so much corruption floating around already.
|4 weeks 7 hours ago||Perhaps. But in fairness I||
Perhaps. But in fairness I never watch halftime, since there's always football on somewhere else.
But negative-brain osmosis is a danger.
|4 weeks 9 hours ago||(No subject)||
|4 weeks 9 hours ago||No one is going to list a||
No one is going to list a ticket this early who isn't hoping to make a big profit. Prices will surely drop closer to the game just because more people will decide not to go and try to recover some of their investment.
|4 weeks 9 hours ago||That's funny, I traveled to||
That's funny, I traveled to football games here in the States without tickets quite a bit. Of course, I usually bought one outside, but in any event I wasn't looking for trouble.
But nothing will stop you from trying to make people believe that they should blame Liverpool fans for their own deaths, so you keep throwing excrement at the wall in this thread and hoping it sticks.
And nothing you say is going to stop us from thinking that you have no credibility whatsoever.
Other than being a contrarian, you really have nothing to add here.
|4 weeks 9 hours ago||It's totally different, but||
It's totally different, but on message boards it is easier to be ignorant, hateful, and snarky than to actually read. Or so I gather from your comment. [Edit: And my comment here--re-reading this, I may object to what you said, but there's no call for me to flame you in this way. My apologies]
You have no idea what has happened in the area of fan support and behavior in English Soccer in the last 30 years. None whatsoever.
|4 weeks 10 hours ago||Congratulations, you've heard||
Congratulations, you've heard of other tragedies.
You might not think it was enough, but 14 people were convicted of manslaughter after Heysel and sentenced to prison terms. And the entirety of English Football was ejected from Europe for half a decade.
Doesn't bring back Heysel victims, but something WAS done.
It should be noted that among the memorial wreaths that were sent to Liverpool after Hillsborough, one of them came from Juventus. The team whose fans were killed at Heysel.
The last few sentences of your post are all the more nauseating. How are fans supposed to know what the capacity is and how full the stand is? How is someone at the back supposed to know that people are getting crushed in the front?
What is a 10-year-old supposed to do? You tell me.
You're probably just trolling here. Not sure what's interesting about trolling a Hillsborough thread, but whatever.
|4 weeks 10 hours ago||That was what English||
That was what English football was like back then. This was just all the awful coming together.
All stadiums had terrace sections, and people were just expected to pile in. It is horrifying to us now; it was what people expected every Saturday for decades there.
There are things we look back at now with horror at the danger involved. I look at race cars from the 60s and 70s and cringe at how vulnerable the drivers were (many died) compared to today. We look at fenced-in terraces and think it was a recipe for disaster.
But at the time it was normal. People may have worried about it a bit, but they accepted it as "part of the game."
I wonder if we'll look at big hits on crossing routes in football the same way in 10 or 20 years.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||By dropping football I mean||
By dropping football I mean nuking the sport entirely.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Sadness. I think things||
I think things started rolling when Motte left. Connor would be expected to leave, but Compher-Motte could still produce goals in bunches together. Without him, Compher doesn't have anyone that can reliably finish his passes, and his stats would have plummeted.
We've been taunted by fans of other teams, asking why our team, with so many great players, couldn't perform better in the tournament. After all, it's not like our loss was a fluke; we were outplayed.
Unfortunately, I think they have a point. This was a fun team this season. But it could have been better.
I hate to say this, but perhaps Red made the wrong choice. Almost no way this coming season isn't a relative disaster.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||He has no chance here. 2014||
He has no chance here. 2014 against Maryland? Grapentine offline? Hike's last stand?
He was fated to be a metaphor for the entire football program.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Something I noticed that's||
Something I noticed that's interesting is that Mandel says that the ban that was passed was the ACC plan. The SEC plan, allegedly, was to allow camps within a home state and up to 50 miles from the state's border.
Still self-serving, of course, but that would have mitigated virtually all of the player backlash, since they would at least get shots with local schools.
So by rushing to oppose Harbaugh and neglecting to even read the legislation or, you know, listen to their own conference or school, the voters have made things far worse than it needed to be.
Also, an inescapable conclusion: one man's aggressive approach and wild success prompted impulsive decision-making and ghastly error. Harbaugh is in their heads. Big time.
|5 weeks 4 hours ago||Thanks. +1 for the info||
Thanks. +1 for the info links.
So all the sports networks are hurting.
|5 weeks 7 hours ago||This is a quote from the B1G||
This is a quote from the B1G Championship game that will occur this year, obviously.
Not sure why Michigan is throwing deep to Chesson when we're already up 49-0, though.
|5 weeks 8 hours ago||If I get paid $250 million||
If I get paid $250 million per year, I will hire you.
|5 weeks 8 hours ago||It will be interesting to see||
It will be interesting to see how this looks in real life. Fox gets 25 games, but which ones? That equates to roughly two per week, with another two per week still out for bidding. Are these the first-choice games every week? Second? Could we get a situation where, like the Pac 12, you could have conference games on both ABC and Fox at different times? Hard to say.
This is presumably not-so-great news for one of the Big 12 or Pac 12, which both get key prime airtime from Fox that would now be in jeopardy. I think. Who knows?
|5 weeks 8 hours ago||I don't read Awful Announcing||
I don't read Awful Announcing enough, can you elaborate a bit?
|5 weeks 8 hours ago||Heh. Yes, this is a real||
Heh. Yes, this is a real issue. And for all the complaining about ESPN I tend to prefer their higher-end broadcasts and a fair amount of their talent.
The B1G wouldn't completely disappear but there certainly would be more of a lean away from them. I think Gameday tries to respect games that aren't on their networks but from a practical standpoint (Herbstreit and production staff being on location) it really does make sense to match the programs up when they can.
The B1G has its issues and it may not best the SEC in attention but it is still a ratings monster. I believe a move to Fox will hurt the B1G somewhat, and if they lose primetime ESPN/ABC presence that's a big hit.
The problem is that ESPN is looking to cut its expenses and this appears to be an area they're cutting. And if they can get ratings by focusing mostly on one conference, they'll do that. I hope the B1G can stay at least partially involved with them; I don't think the move to Fox has been all that great for the Big 12 or Pac 12.
|5 weeks 9 hours ago||"Up to $250 million per||
"Up to $250 million per year." Depending upon the other deal. So as it stands it looks like a modest increase.
|5 weeks 9 hours ago||Or for ESPN. There was talk||
Or for ESPN. There was talk that the new B1G deal would be the "last" big one. But ESPN has been publicly struggling for over a year now, I would think that could be a problem. Apparently it is.
There are multiple factors at work, of course. I believe the CW is still that live events are a crucial part of a programming portfolio because people tend to watch them as they happen and therefore watch commercials more frequently. ESPN may have gotten itself into trouble with large rights payments and cord-cutting may be taking a slice, but eyeballs still watch games.
I honestly believe that the explosion of rights fees may finally slow down, but any real trouble for the industry will be more of a "blip" than a crash. As long as people continue to watch sports fanatically there will be a market for this. Once ESPN contracts to a market-appropriate size things will start rising.
|5 weeks 10 hours ago||What teams did you play for?||
What teams did you play for? I don't remember seeing you post about this before.
|5 weeks 10 hours ago||They can't recruit Major||
They can't recruit Major Junior players, but they can get first crack at guys from leagues like the BCHL that regularly send guys to the NCAA. There's potential for good recruiting there.
|5 weeks 10 hours ago||If this is being seriously||
If this is being seriously considered, I have to assume that these details factor into the decision. I suppose (correct me if I'm wrong) a single-sport exception could be made as well, opening the door for Fraser and also for, hypothetically, other universities that can meet NCAA requirements in other nations. Say, for soccer.
But given what a disaster the NCAA tournament has become I can't rule out the possibility that Simon Fraser thinks it is a good idea to play even if they don't bother with the tourney. Especially with how big hockey is. It's just crazy enough to make sense.
|5 weeks 13 hours ago||I like your format and I||
I like your format and I would watch. Michigan wouldn't do well, and this would weigh in favor of the best players in the league due to small rosters, but it would be a blast. And with how college rivalries carry over I think it would get intense.
This makes so much sense that there's no way it happens.
|5 weeks 13 hours ago||Truth in self-deprecation. I||
Truth in self-deprecation. I love the stuff you contribute here, SRK, but this sort of question doesn't work for a school with any kind of significant playing alumni base. If you go to small schools, where most program alums go into regular work and lose their football shape, you have an argument.
But David Harris devouring the running game with Leon Hall and still-got-it Charles Woodson of all people patrolling the passing lanes behind them would prevent our current team from moving the ball at all.
And Tom Brady could carve up the defense, as good as it is, all on his own.
A more interesting question would be, can Tom Brady plus the second string O and D beat the first string?
And I would say yes.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||The headline seems hyperbolic||
The headline seems hyperbolic on the face. I mean, I've seen Osgood goals and I've seen the Lidstrom Cloutier goal, of course. So I thought maybe this was exaggeration.
But it wasn't a long shot or even a dump. It was a deflection on the far side of the red line that TRICKLED to goal. In cases like the Cloutier goal, a guy should stop it but at least if they're out of position (as Cloutier was) there's no time to correct and adjust. Here, Mason has time to correct if he is not oriented properly and he just... Doesn't.
This is really bad.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||That whole series was||
That whole series was amazing. Lidstrom's goal was crucial (I think it was actually the go-ahead but I'll have to check) but Steve Yzerman carried the rest of the team on his back on one good leg for basically the entire series. I watched games 3 and 4 alone on the CBC late at night, living and dying with every shot.
2002 is my favorite playoff run ever. But what a ride.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Casey wasn't at fault and||
Casey wasn't at fault and nobody holds it against him. It was the shot of a lifetime in the perfect spot at the perfect time.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Imagining Jim Delany with||
Imagining Jim Delany with cotton in his mouth, doped up from having his wisdom teeth removed, blubbering about leaving the dying dog during a zombie apocalypse, does kinda bring a sparkle to my eye.
Actually, imagining him that way does make decisions like Rutgers and Satellite camps make a lot more sense. "Listen, it's the playoff apocalypse, we need to expand. You can take either Texas or Rutgers. What are we going to take?"
"Wutgers I guess!"
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Yikes, this sounds||
Yikes, this sounds bad.
Piecing together information, it seems likely to me that "run over" is not the best description of what happened. As others have said, "glancing blow" or something like the forks only rolling a leg or something like that. Rolling an entire, weight-bearing wheel over him would be catastrophic and also a lot more difficult to do accidently than a slighter bit of contact.
If it is true that he is ok, I'm glad to hear it.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||That's a biiiiiig leap from||
That's a biiiiiig leap from Butch telling them they're under investigation. And while this stinks that is a whole different level of stink that would be way worse. I don't think it's fair to make that assumption.
Honestly this sounds like an issue with Knoxville police. It's the chief's action that's the issue here.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Once again we see common||
Once again we see common misperceptions of what the NCAA is and how it relates to this sort of issue.
In neither this case nor the camp issue have administrators employed by "The NCAA" made any decisions. The camp rule was voted on by representatives of conferences. This decision was was made by the football rules committee. The committee is made up of coaches and administrators from stakeholder schools, not faceless bureaucrats.
This is how individual sports are typically managed. There's a reason I only indirectly referenced the NCAA in the "burn it down" diary about hockey I posted the other day: the people making the decisions come from within the sport itself. So it is here.
Here's a page listing committee members:
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Bad headline. They postponed,||
Bad headline. They postponed, did not suspend.
In fact, this appears to be a case where they are being cautious and making sure they get the details right, with time to anticipate unforeseen consequences, before a widespread change of procedure. The opposite of how they made the Sat camp decision.
|6 weeks 2 hours ago||If a team from the SEC is||
If a team from the SEC is good enough to earn the 4th seed in the playoff, they are welcome to pair them against us.
|6 weeks 11 hours ago||Some may have, and one may||
Some may have, and one may even argue that it's a necessary step regardless of whether there are some broken eggs along the way.
But a lot of people thought that since the NCAA was/is stupid there would be no downside at all.
The difference here is that this is a not a judge determining an issue of law, but rather representatives voting on legislation. Someone adjudicating the O'Bannon case is under no obligation to consider wider impacts. NCAA football decision-makers are, and shirked their responsibility. It's much worse.
|6 weeks 12 hours ago||I believe our top competition||
I believe our top competition is OSU and MSU, with only a little play from out of state. So I'm not sure this has much effect.
|6 weeks 12 hours ago||PFF "adjusts" percentage, so||
PFF "adjusts" percentage, so they're using a different number than what you pull off of the Internet.
And while I haven't seen their evaluation, I have seen other sources discuss how Cook was much better throwing to covered receivers than other guys with higher overall percentages; Vernon Adams was mentioned specifically. We saw this clearly ourselves.
|6 weeks 12 hours ago||Unintended consequences. It||
Unintended consequences. It continues to amaze me how often people get attached to an idea for change or legislation or something and never consider that unexpected things might go wrong.
Everyone was so excited about the O'Bannon decision without realizing that it killed a much-loved video game franchise (I hope it comes back). Some coaches think they're just cutting Harbaugh off at the knees and then they get phone calls from old friends explaining that they just hamstrung hundreds of coaches and thousands of players.
|6 weeks 12 hours ago||I have mixed feelings about||
I have mixed feelings about this. Some of those have to do with issues of severity and with the apparent capriciousness of the wording of the statute they violated (spitballs are a violation. I mean I don't like those things but that's worth at most a written warning).
It is, frankly, hard to discuss this issue without veering into politics.
But while I think nailing these guys with a felony is harsh, let's remember:
1. School zone exclusion laws for guns are nearly universal. Athens may have its own statute but this is hardly unique to them.
2. BB guns and their Airsoft cousins are not precisely "firearms" but neither are they unregulated run-of-the-mill toys, and they do often fall under local gun laws.
3. The article says "marks" were made by the projectiles. So we are not talking about a $25 Airsoft pistol with plastic pellets that sting slightly if they hit you. We are, however, talking about the sort of thing that would make you very uncomfortable if a teenager were waving it around at a school that your kids went to.
It's possible that these guys were just being stupid and were ignorant of the fact that they were breaking laws. Very possible. But it is also possible for reasonable people to understand why the statute exists, even if they disagree with some principles or specifics.
I hope charges are significantly lowered. But I understand why this has to be an issue.
|6 weeks 13 hours ago||Four months of glory. Not||
Four months of glory.
Not the best overall team Michigan has had, but I can't remember a Michigan hockey team I followed closely where the individual games were more fun. Virtually every fixture was a delight.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Zero surprise here.||
Zero surprise here. Unfortunately for us, there is nothing more for him to gain by staying right now. He completely dominated in college in his first season whether the fools on the Hobey committee realized it or not; to grow as a player, he needs a new challenge.
Good for him. Glad we got to see him.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||You mean that context is||
You mean that context is relevant? Up vote for digging out what was actually said.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||That could be. My point is||
That could be. My point is that those are guys who would probably land somewhere. And/or guys who get somewhere better and contribute but aren't stars (Hill being a good example). Anyway, the important issue is the players, the guys people aren't salivating over, including us fans.
It's more about them than Harbaugh or our recruiting plan or whether this nets us a top recruit from somewhere else.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Easy for us to say, being on||
Easy for us to say, being on the "right" side of this. But if the B1G were wrong on another peripheral issue and they made that the sword to fall on, we would feel pretty mis-treated.
Plus, that would actually hurt Detroit kids more, since the B1G would get more strong recruits from the South, taking the spots that would otherwise go to Joe Average Detroit Athlete.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Word of caution: this breaks||
Word of caution: this breaks nicely for Michigan in PR terms and I've seen a person or two suggest how it helps in recruiting (see Peoples-Jones) and it might be a bit.
But the issue that makes this a thing for players is the guys that aren't going to Michigan. It's the guys getting scholarships to Cincinnatti and Ball State and Central. Guys who have little chance at the NFL but who, with a scholarship, can go to college and make something of themselves.
We can argue about whether it's troubling that a lot of non-pro-prospect guys see sports as their best chance to succeed, but the fact is that for now it IS the best chance for some. These are the guys it hurts.
My stepsister taught English at EMU for a few years and taught a fair number of football players. They weren't necessarily all super-sharp, but by and large they took their work seriously. Because a guy at EMU is usually not playing for a look in the NFL; he's playing to complete a degree that can totally change the life of both him and his family.
Those are the guys this really affects.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||I think it depends on whether||
I think it depends on whether your attire is "appropriate" for your context or not. There's a fair amount of time where I have to look reasonably professional, even if I'm wearing jeans. I won't be decked out in Michigan stuff then.
But if it's casual wear, people wear team or regional stuff all the time. Mine tends to be Michigan stuff. If I need to wear a hoodie, it's a Michigan one. Working on the yard? Old Michigan stuff.
I don't think living in Minnesota has made much of a difference to me.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Except it had nothing to do||
Except it had nothing to do with it. Harvard lost in the first round and Vesey didn't have get a single point. This is just plain regional/career garbage bias.
I'm in a sour mood about the sport right now, so I posted a diary about it, prompted by this. Ugh.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||This permanently damages the||
This permanently damages the integrity of the this award IMO.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Vesey scored 46 points this||
Vesey scored 46 points this year. Total. Nice player and nice career but he is not the best player in college hockey in any way this season.
This is a crime. Absolute 100% garbage. Worst I've seen.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Spineless Ones||
I dunno. I think when he relaxes in his office he looks a bit more like this:
|6 weeks 4 days ago||I don't say this lightly:||
I don't say this lightly:
Fire Jim Delany. He's the gift that keeps on giving away.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||I'm not sure I agree with||
I'm not sure I agree with your second paragraph. I hadn't given it a lot of consideration. The NCAA does not have the scale of interests that FIFA and the IOC do, and unlike officials in those organizations most NCAA stakeholders have larger incomes and responsibilities outside of the structure than within it.
But, based on my own guidelines for suspecting doping and other corrupt behavior, I will have to consider this a possibility.
I may not think it's the case, but I can no longer rule it out.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Oh, one more thing: One||
Oh, one more thing:
One person gets worked in every major winner/loser decision of this sort. He is the gift that keeps on giving (away).
Fire Jim Delany.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||I think the NCAA gets a bad||
I think the NCAA gets a bad rap. It's a large organization that's managed by a few people who are trying to balance the needs of dozens of sports and thousands of athletes across hundreds and hundreds of vastly different schools. It's easy to bash them and it's often unfair.
So with that as context, I say this:
This is a gutless, craven, and utterly absurd decision by the NCAA to cave to the pressure brought by a few whining schools that push the edges of their rules the most already. I have no respect for this decision at all.
It can be kind of lazy to say something like "The $EC is getting special treatment" and other throwaway stuff like that. It can get into tinfoil-hat territory at times. But it is hard to see this decision in any other light.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||This response is nearly||
This response is nearly unintelligible and I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you've completely misread my post and are responding to it based on misunderstanding.
My post was, like several others that first appeared on this thread, in response to Brian's original note on Speight. That note was apparently a carryover from a previous edition of this column that said that Speight had little chance and was a transfer possibility. Brian, in updating the column for this post, apparently failed to update Speight's entry despite the new data from spring and his own suggestion in the new O'Korn entry that the QB position was a real battle.
This was an oversight, and while perhaps annoying for the author it's not the end of the world, and Brian later edited the Speight entry and put brackets around it to show that he had changed the text.
So my guess is that you think I am presenting original thoughts/assertions about Speight rather than just questioning what was written in the (now corrected) OP. Note that I have an "Edit" on my post to indicate that Speight's entry has since been changed.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||There is never going to be a||
There is never going to be a 1-to-1 analogue for Woodson in a Michigan defense. Woodson brought not only the elite coverage that Lewis provides but also the dynamite force-of-nature athleticism we see in Peppers AND an incredible ball-hawking instinct we haven't seen at Michigan since. He won a Heisman and will soon enter the Pro Football Hall of Fame. There just isn't going to be anyone like him, probably ever.
But we have a space ninja over the slot and a lockdown corner and a DL that has the potential to be the best in Michigan's illustrious history. It's not the same formula as '97. And it might not be as good as '97.
But it could be in the conversation. It will be fun to watch.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||I think last year's was||
I think last year's was already the equal to 2006, which may not have folded quite as totally against OSU but also got bombed by USC. This year... Well, 1997 talk is such an annual tradition that it's passé, but this year could be something special if they put it together.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Here's a different question:||
Here's a different question: if they are both demanding double-teams, who is going to block Rashan Gary?
|6 weeks 5 days ago||The Speight entry appears to||
The Speight entry appears to be old. Doesn't have a shot/could transfer? EDIT: and fixed.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Right. And the question||
Right. And the question isn't, "What's good for teams" here so much as "what smaller schools will vote for." The Power 5 has more flexibility now, but I think lower-end schools would block this sort of thing. So it's academic anyway.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Great, thanks.||
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Interesting. Source?||
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Connor doesn't need to wait||
Connor doesn't need to wait for the ceremony to announce, and I believe the voting is already done. However, he may wait until the summer to sign. Other people understand the details better than I do, but if I recall correctly holding until after this season is over extends the amount of time Connor would be protected from a hypothetical expansion draft, among other things. It seems Winnipeg will wait.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||I actually prefer this to the||
I actually prefer this to the old summers where we basically had to wait until August to find out if our key players were coming back. Spring signings hurt but at least we know where we stand ahead of time.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Already basically dropped my||
Already basically dropped my sadness thoughts in the last thread. But I'll leave this memory again, because sports can be so much more than what happens on the ice. Motte was my daughter's first favorite hockey player.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||He's not doing it to make the||
He's not doing it to make the Blackhawks. He has probably been offered more than a rookie minimum, and he is taking the next step to develop his game in the minors, where he will play twice as many games by the end of next season.
As sharp as he is on offense at Michigan, he needs to develop an all-around game to make it in the NHL. His skill set is not strong enough to be a top-2-line scoring option in the NHL right now. He will need to have a well-rounded defensive/checking game to find a spot, a place where his offense (if any) is more of a bonus than an integral skill. Being the sniper for JT Compher's wizard passes, should they be headed his way, is not going to develop that part of his game.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||I would say it's a sure sign||
I would say it's a sure sign that Motte knows Connor is gone. Like, he has been explicitly told.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||This is very disappointing||
This is very disappointing for next year's team. Motte has really come on strong, and him paired with Compher would continue to be a dynamite offensive force even if (when really, c'mon) Connor leaves.
On the other hand, this is a "sell high" situation for Motte. He and Compher could be transcendant next season... but then, it's hard to top a year like this when you're playing next to Connor. Even a slight regress in stats next season would not look good on a pro resume. If he is offered anything that is not the pro minimum, this is the time to sign in your career.
We'll always have the great season, and the great OT winner against ND.
And, more personally, I'll always have that time at warmups at Mariucci where he flipped my daughter a puck and became her favorite player.
Fare well, Tyler. Make us proud.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Man. After his freshman||
Man. After his freshman season his potential seemed off the charts. Then last year and this. Disappointing.
I mean, he gets to play for his Dad now, no one holds that against him at all. Just wish it had been different. Transfers are always tinged with sadness.
|7 weeks 6 hours ago||Logged in to upvote. Love||
Logged in to upvote. Love this diary every month.
|7 weeks 14 hours ago||It's not ridiculous at all.||
It's not ridiculous at all. You have the ability to make sure things are right, you make sure they are right. The refs didn't pompously whistle everyone down or clear the court. They didn't stop the celebration. They just checked the video to be absolutely sure.
Consider the alternative, if there had been a dispute and they hadn't checked it.
This complaint is specious.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Tracy Wolfson's reaction is||
Tracy Wolfson's reaction is pretty impressive in the background there. And I enjoy seeing media people who've been at this for years still get taken with the magic of the sports they are covering.
FWIW Wright just quoted at his presser that he thought there might be time left and he was mentally preparing to ready the team to defend an inbound play with something like .7 seconds left.
I kinda feel sorry for him, not being able to fully enjoy the greatest moment of his career. But I'm sure he's ok with it.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Context matters. The bigger||
Context matters. The bigger the stakes, the bigger the game.
I saw a high school game between two schools that each had maybe 30-50 guys in their whole senior high max. A player made a miracle 30-foot three point in the last second to win. It was stunning.
But it was obviously nothing like this. Because the level of the game was a different universe.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||The conventional wisdom, I||
The conventional wisdom, I believe, is that you can either have a crazy upset-filled first weekend, or you can have a series of great matchups late, but you don't get both.
This is one of those "great first weekend" situations with a lot of upsets. A lot of top teams didn't make it through.
No real surprise that Syracuse got trucked. It was rather more surprising that Oklahoma folded like a cheap tent. But the final was better than we could've hoped for.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||In retrospect, it seems||
In retrospect, it seems absurd--that UConn team was absolutely loaded. But at the time Duke had what people felt was an unbeatable team, one of the best of all time.
So it was the rare game that was both a stunning upset and a massive heavyweight title fight. Kind of like Texas-USC at the Rose Bowl. In fact, a lot like that.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||It had one amazing shot, this||
It had one amazing shot, this had two. And most of the end of regulation of that game was Memphis missing free throws; actually rather draggy, with lightning at the end.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||A couple of supplemental||
A couple of supplemental points:
The whole game was well-played. Villanova played beautiful basketball and lookd great in its momentum runs. North Carolina's comeback was pretty epic, punctuated by both great skill plays and great grit plays (fighting for a rebound and getting a putback, etc). That shot by Paige is every bit the stunner that Burke's was or that Chalmers' was. And, of course, it was topped.
This is the first actual buzzer beater in the championship since 1983, I guess.
Now, it's not a huge upset. A 2 over a 1 in a year with no clear-cut dominant team just doesn't rate. Neither of these teams were considered all-timers, either. The 1999 UConn-Duke final has been mentioned a couple of times and I think that's a reasonable response, given what those two teams were going in. And there's no rivalry here to speak of, no all-time players to draw attention. The ratings on this game will probably be relatively low. Some people have mentioned the "If" question of the Heyward shot going in against Duke; that game had all the context this does not.
But that shot did not go in, which is part of the point. It so often doesn't happen.
1983 was so long ago, it's like comparing the 2006 Rose Bowl to the 1971 Nebraska-Oklahoma game; both great, but hard to compare eras that different. Since 1983 I feel like this game immediately joins 1992 Duke-UK at the pinnacle of college basketball games.
And as an all-sport finale it holds up well. I'm not sure it can be quite as epic as USC-Texas, and pro championships tend to be hard to compare. But it's in that conversation.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||I'm as neutral and||
I'm as neutral and disinterested here as you can get.
That was an all-timer.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Have you been there? I have||
Have you been there? I have never liked Tennessee, and I went in 2001 (when tension between the programs was high due to still-burning capacity and Heisman rivalries and both programs were very good) expecting to hate everyone. And they were great. I wore Michigan stuff, spent the afternoon on Cumberland, and had a total blast. Nobody gave me so much as a bad comment.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||I would actually be||
I would actually be interested to see what an awning would do, but I guarantee that it would meet with a lot of resistance from fans due to its outsized visual impact. It's not clear to me that it would be worth the trouble.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||You can't steepen the grade||
You can't steepen the grade of the bowl without building an entirely new stadium. Yes, it is a substantially different grade than what is built today; it was build in a time when stadium architecture was completely different. Rebuilding it is a prohibitive and pointless idea.
The whole point of my post is that people (like you) should accept this and stop whining about how Michigan Stadium isn't some other Stadium that was barely bigger than a high school field when Michigan Stadium was designed and built. Your continued longing for LSU's endzone leads me to believe that you have no idea what LSU's stadium is really like or how it got to be the way that it is. Do you realize that those first two decks were built simultaneously, years before the latest addition of club seats? Do you realize that the club seats (like the two current upper decks, one of which replaced a previous upper deck ten years ago) are built as a completely independent structure behind the existing grandstand? Do you know how ear-bleedingly loud the student section is with no upper deck behind it, simply because the students are crazy?
Michigan Stadium is not going to be Death Valley. It does not need to be. It may one day add some boxes or some seats in the end zones; it will still be shallow and it will still be a bowl and that is perfectly alright. Acoustics make a difference in stadium noise and Michigan's acoustics will never be as good as Tennessee's.
But Michigan Stadium can still be loud if the fans get loud. You want it loud? Talk with your friends. Get together and yell on every defensive down. Jump up and down on every third down. Get old and buy season tickets and teach your kids to yell on every third down.
The reason a lot of these Southern Stadiums are loud is because people go to the Stadium expecting to make noise.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||"It seems like some are||
"It seems like some are opposed to change just because it's change."
Some may be that way, but the people disagreeing with you aren't disagreeing because they don't like change. They are disagreeing because you are, basically, arguing: "Michigan Stadium would be better if it were Kyle Field."
And we disagree.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||The only way to make the||
The only way to make the grade of the stadium steeper is to build it so completely that you are essentially building a completely new stadium within the current hole.
LSU does not have two decks above both endzones. Their two endzones, in fact, could not be more different from each other. One has a consistent, round arc around the field with a single deck that is contiguous with the lower deck on either sideline. The other has sharp curves in the corners with two decks stacked so close together there is barely enough room to walk under them and then another structure built behind the two-deck level that just opened. The architecture and the design principles are not the same at all. Now, I find this kind of hodge-podge growth to be charming, but it isn't the sort of thing that makes Michigan Stadium what it is.
I enjoy improvements to Michigan stadium. What you are describing is not an improvement to Michigan Stadium; it is a wholesale rebuild that completely changes it into something else.
You are advocating doing what the Bears did to Soldier Field. I don't think that's a good idea.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||There may be, and I'm not||
There may be, and I'm not against updates. I was in favor of the luxury suite expansion and still like it more than the average fan probably does. I just don't think it's wise or necessary to change the overall character of the stadium. And, with this all a hypothetical concept anyway, it's better to enjoy that character for what it is.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Whoops, you're right. Oratory||
Whoops, you're right. Oratory gone awry. Fixed.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||In square footage it's no||
In square footage it's no bigger than a lot of NFL stadiums that hold 60,000. Bleachers save a lot of space.
But size does not equal intimidation.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||It depends a lot on the||
It depends a lot on the stadium; not all upper decks are created equal.
Tennessee, for example, has a steep grade in its lower bowl and the upper deck feels like a cliff face. But it is a cantilever deck (no support posts) and without luxury boxes your seats up there don't feel bad at all.
Modern pro stadiums that stack their decks vertically above multiple luxury levels and don't overhang the lower bowl are quite a bit further out. Some new college decks (either sideline for LSU, for example) have the same issue.
Some of the issue is relative: if you're in the top corner, you'll feel far away because everything else is closer. Even if your seats are physically as close to the field as low-row balcony seats in a newer stadium.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||I wouldn't go that far, but I||
I wouldn't go that far, but I agree that the third tier at LSU looks awkward. The first two decks, stacked right on top of each other, have been a staple of that endzone for decades, though.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||It would look particularly||
It would look particularly good if there was a big yellow halo around the stadium and the writing was in huge gaudy blue letters. With assorted football and helmet icons strewn about for effect. Right?
|7 weeks 3 days ago||The most intimidating endzone||
The most intimidating endzone at LSU is not the one pictured in the OP. It is the opposite one, still just one deck rising like a bowl, filled with students going bananas.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||This is why I've become more||
This is why I've become more convinced that this season has a lot riding on it. I came out of last season thinking, "Cool! Wouldn't it be exciting if we competed for a playoff spot!"
I'm starting to lean toward, "Man, we need to compete for a playoff spot." Because a solid season basically entrenches the trajectory. People aren't going to fret about a rivalry loss or two and some headscratching games with a roster of young players in 2017 if Harbaugh has already proven that he can win 11 or 12 games in a season.
But recruits will start wondering if he's as good as he's cracked up to be if we lose four games this year and then take a step back.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Probably need to be able to||
Probably need to be able to make changes up to the last moment. For injuries, changes, whatever.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I'm starting to think that an||
I'm starting to think that an extra burned redshirt or two this season may be justified if a guy can help win a game. As I mention in my own post further down (which is influenced by the good thoughts here) I think Michigan really has to meet high expectations this season to show that the Harbaugh regime is a solid winner. There's just no way next year can possibly be as good with the talent we stand to lose.
So if Harbaugh torches a redshirt just to add a wrinkle to a personnel package that scores key points in a close road win at Michigan State, I think it's a good choice.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||It's nice to see that first||
It's nice to see that first Hoke class that we were excited about turn out so well. Frankly, it took a better coach to develop those guys, but they are developing.
The problem is that, with exceptions for guys like Peppers, two classes of guys who are supposed to be emerging as key contributors are small and underwhelming. That 2014 class doesn't have any depth to show for at all yet. Those would be the guys we would count on to keep a run of success going next season if we have a good year, and...
Well, the best player in that class will be a first-round draft pick in a year.
Harbaugh has to get his young guys good and he has to do it fast. This does, however, help explain why Michigan is moving older guys so rapidly. It's good that they're getting medicals and/or degrees; there is also clearly a reason Harbaugh isn't keeping anyone marginal for a fifth year. He needs volume in new classes to find guys to play next season.
Stuff like this helps round out the picture that can get lost in threads that gripe about why some guys are leaving the program when we don't think they have to. Harbaugh has a huge, two-season hole of depth and talent he needs to fill fast.
And it makes this year that much more important, because however high we climb this season, we probably drop a bit in the next. A disappointing 8-4 season would not only be a step back, but be a serious momentum-killer for years in recruiting.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||This seems to fit the profile||
This seems to fit the profile of other early commits of prospects from promising areas. Same stuff Harbaugh did last year, basically.
And if this is mutually known, that's fine. This guy will draw eyeballs with this, and he still might wind up here.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Well, the OP originally did||
Well, the OP originally did include a statement that he wasn't sure how best to phrase the headline. It has since been edited, but my suggestion did make sense at the time.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Looks sharp. Hopefully some||
Looks sharp. Hopefully some time off from the grind gave him a chance to re-establish some priorities. I'm happy to see this.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Upvote because I will never||
Upvote because I will never not think of that last line again.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||This is getting||
This is getting fun.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Coincidently, that's||
Coincidently, that's basically what we kinda saw as the scenario for Hoke in 2014. 9-3, losses to the big rivals, listless extension into the next season.
I would love to see that happen at No Talent U and have them extend Franklin. Cause, obvs.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||A good thread title would be||
A good thread title would be something like: "James Franklin: No Talent Required at PSU" or something.
Anyway, this is a genius move by Franklin. How better to shift the stain of scandal to the background than by feeding the college football universe a hilarious meme that ruthlessly mocks his own school? I mean, we're going to tweet this 8 million times the week of the Michigan-PSU game, right?
Maybe we should just change PSU's initials to NTR.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Nobody knew he would be one||
Nobody knew he would be one of the best in the country. He is a late bloomer, a guy who finally got going years out of high school. Nobody knew he'd perform this well.
And he played junior hockey in Fargo.
To be honest I don't think he'd be that much of an upgrade in net--Michigan's major problems are in front of goal. Racine was fine.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Not in 2008 when Porter won||
Not in 2008 when Porter won it, nor in 2011 when Andy Miele won, or 2012 when Jack Connolly won.
It helps quite a but to be on a successful team, but then team and individual success tend to go together.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Vesey is there because he is||
Vesey is there because he is very good. He was there last season and had a fine season this year. Compher was great, but it's not at all surprising that all the Michigan votes went to Connor. I'm not bothered by this.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Vesey actually had a better||
Vesey actually had a better season last year, statistically. Demko started very hot this year and has been good all season; he is the only one to make the Frozen Four.
Anyone other than Connor would be a crime.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||You're understating this.||
You're understating this. This would be like Michigan bringing Hoke back last season after the 5-7 disaster.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||That's too many L's in his||
That's too many L's in his name, dude.
It's really just five of them. One for each L against Michigan.