Mike Lantry, 1972
|1 day 13 hours ago||Michigan has never had a||
Michigan has never had a completely consistent "maize" color, and attempts to fix things or revert them do not help. Back in "the day," or the 1990s/early 2000s for people my age, Michigan had one color of "maize" for football and another for basketball/hockey uniforms. I have authentic jerseys of the era to prove it. Hockey helmets, however, matched football and did not match the maize of the jerseys.
|1 day 13 hours ago||The rules haven't changed.||
The rules haven't changed. College basketball actually allows a lot of latitude in what teams wear, as long as there is contrast (and occasionally even when there isn't). Recall the title game run that Illinois made last year where they wore orange almost every game home and road.
|2 days 11 hours ago||Indiana has a set, but||
Indiana has a set, but despite the possibility of messing with their traditional look, the fans probably aren't too worried.
|2 days 11 hours ago||We only wore the blue because||
We only wore the blue because the regular blue road unis were shelved after the jersey-tear disaster at Minnesota. After that game they wore maize as much as possible, and rotated through other uniforms (including year-old versions) when blue was vital.
|2 days 12 hours ago||Ok, those are awesome. I'm||
Ok, those are awesome. I'm speaking mostly of the white uniforms, and somewhat about the blue ones. Michigan's white uniforms, to me, have the potential to be horrifically bland. The one they've used for the last two years is, in my opinion, a significant upgrade over past editions.
|2 days 12 hours ago||Gah, boring. One of the thing||
Gah, boring. One of the thing I like about the current uni is that the shorts actually have a design on them. I've never really gotten over them abandoning the old 80s blue-panel home shorts, especially given how plain the white uniforms tend to be.
|2 days 12 hours ago||MDen has a splash on the||
MDen has a splash on the front page already, calling them "tournament" uniforms.
|2 days 12 hours ago||Eh. I don't hate it, which is||
Eh. I don't hate it, which is a good thing. This jersey release is comparable to those weird print shorts they used last year as the blue unis (but pretty much rejected otherwise). And on that scale these are much better. I still actually like the existing uniforms quite a bit, but these aren't awful.
|1 week 3 days ago||Michigan has gone through||
Michigan has gone through periods with with talent but underwhelming dedication and/or character before. The teams were still good (until last year) but always frustrating. Good examples would be the freshman class that won it all in '98 but never really grew & by 2001 was getting passed over by sophomores, and the 06 & 07 teams that were loaded but offered little hope of larger success.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||A statistical analysis of||
A statistical analysis of total failure.
|3 weeks 13 hours ago||Because it was a magnificent,||
Because it was a magnificent, epic sporting event. Worth the time.
|3 weeks 14 hours ago||This game serves to further||
This game serves to further highlight what an injustice it was that Ryan Duncan won the Hobey Baker.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||It's a restaurant in a nice||
It's a restaurant in a nice spot on the Lake, but he doesn't work there anymore; took some time off to raise the kids and, presumably, work on curling.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Well, clearly the Czechs||
Well, clearly the Czechs aren't the same team that won in '98 anymore.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||That may be true--after all,||
That may be true--after all, that's what folks were saying about Michigan a couple of years ago when we earned a share despite unfavorable H2H records.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||True enough.||
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Speaking of the unsuitability||
Speaking of the unsuitability of single-elimination tournaments in hockey, it should be mentioned that the NCAA hockey tournament has a great event for it's last four teams but is otherwise just about the worst-executed playoff imaginable on so many different levels.
Single-elimination to start with is challengingly random; a team can have a bad break or two, a bad call, or a bad bounce and have its season end. What's worse, their season probably ends at some neutral site that is 25% full of fans that are all there for the one team that is kinda sorta close by. Instead of the season peaking in the postseason, then, it ends with a heartless whimper.
When the issue of major junior comes up, we gripe about them paying players and making dishonest promises, and of course that is true. It remains a good product, however, that plays more games (what kid complains about playing more?) and has a killer post-season that almost every team qualifies for and starts at best-of-seven from the bottom rung. Thanks to their aggressive draft system, most teams that are decently well-run will be good enough to get to a conference finals at least once during a player's career. The teams that are lifting the best players (London, Kitchener, etc) are also rather good at being good enough to make even deeper playoff runs every year, and every game is packed with rabid fans.
This totally smokes the NCAA playoff system, where only the Frozen Four shines as an experience and most teams never make it that far. It's a hard sell.
And teams lose by random chance.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||This effect is real, but can||
This effect is real, but can still be quite random in its execution. Leaving aside the game-to-game issue for a second, a bases-loaded situation in the 4th inning seriously affects the pitch count; in the 7th, it helps the order... but if its a reliever in for one inning anyway, it doesn't matter. The A's gained nothing by loading the bases against Scherzer last fall, for example.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||They also have an extra foul||
They also have an extra foul (granted, they also have 8 extra minutes, which makes sense), and thus the effect of a bad call or two is significantly reduced. An NCAA championship game can be (and, as we remember, has been) swayed by a bad call on a key player early in a half, forcing them to spend significant time on the bench.
I love the atmosphere and accessibility of college basketball, and the regular season is worlds better, but the NBA has a far better set of rules.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||My perception, though I may||
My perception, though I may have read wrong, is that Brian means that the goal should be widened so that every shot that now hits post would get in.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Basketball is not random at||
Basketball is not random at all. Brian well-described how consistent the NBA is at determining a champion, for better or for worse; the "best team" almost always wins.
Baseball, unlike other sports, is designed with the randomness factored in. One game is not meant to be a true test of a team's full ability, particularly since only one pitcher can start on any given day. Thus, regular seasons have a different meaning; conversely, post-seasons are rather bizarre.
Hockey's randomness is not just a recent phenomenon, either. There have frequently been so-so regular season teams that have made big playoff runs, and of course all Wings fans remember what happened in 1996 after the greatest regular season ever. Perhaps things are amplified now, but hockey has long had this issue.
Brian's idea concerning goalie effectiveness is barking up the right tree, at the very least. Goalies are so good now that they are pretty much expected to stop every shot they can see and generally do. The rapid rise in goalie competence over the past 20 years has completely changed the game, and was an un-addressed root cause of much of the offensive doldrums that were the drive behind significant rule-changes after the lost season.
Anyone who watches film of, say, the Gretzky Oilers will be astonished both by the style of goaltending and the impressive number of goals scored by simple shots that would be no challenge today. Equipment is one factor, but goalies just play better now. The old stand-up goalie is a thing of the past.
I love it when players sell out to block shots, but when one combines the danger of the play with how effectively it throttles offense from the point, one wonders if limiting a player's ability to block shots should be limited. Perhaps ban players from leaving their feet to intercept pucks between the faceoff dots or something. Yeah, it would eliminate some sell-out play, but it would certainly increase offense. Make two-on-ones easier to convert, too.
Limit shot-blocking, widen the goal, shrink goalie equipment. I think it would all help.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Disagree. In my experience,||
Disagree. In my experience, the "pricier" Adidas stuff is still a far lower quality than the equivalent Nike product. This has contributed to me reducing the amount of apparel that I buy.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Following Tennessee's win,||
Following Tennessee's win, Adidas' record in college football has been disastrous. They managed to win contracts to a number of perennial powers; all of them suffered through uncharacteristic periods of extended mediocrity.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||You quote Taranto, a||
You quote Taranto, a conservative columnist; Smith appears to be, from his editorial position, choice of issues, and supported links, to be at least a fiscal conservative himself. He just appears to have it in for the U, where that is not your sole issue. Otherwise, there's a lot of similarity there.
You're not just "asking questions." You're screaming "Conspiracy!" at the top of your lungs. You may wish to refute by saying "I'm not even shouting," but when you repeatedly post basically the same things over and over again in short space, that is an internet equivalent to shouting.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||This is actually very||
This is actually very insightful.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Dude, Section 1, you are||
Dude, Section 1, you are being such an idiot about this. You are a discredit to rational, normal, non-flame-throwing people who hold positions similar to yours. I disagree with a lot of people on this board about a lot of issues (my signature would suggest at least one pretty significant issue) but it is possible to have strong beliefs and still have a rational discussion.
What you are peddling is just baseless conspiracy-ism. What's hilarious about this is that the person that would be most likely to be responsible for this in your "conspiracy" scenario is the Washtenaw Watchdog guy, with whom I believe you share some political views and whose tone and demeanor you closely resemble.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||It's not that what (maybe)||
It's not that what (maybe) Lewan was alleged to have done was worse than what Gibbons was alleged to have done. It is the fact that the Gibbons issue is an evidence + he said + she said case, and is it notoriously hard to tell what really happened with those.
But even if Gibbons is not guilty, the allegations against Lewan are quite serious. And, as you say, it seems that it should be easier to tell what he actually did. And if he did make those statements to a party involved with the victim, it should not have been glossed over.
This is where things get really murky, because the Gibbons issue is kind of shut, but if this stuff against (perhaps) Lewan has any legs or credibility, it's going to get worse. What if the friend he allegedly said it to goes on a local TV station and makes the accusation on camera? You can see how this can go.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||There's no doubt that||
There's no doubt that Michigan looks bad here. I am simply providing an alternative scenario. I agree that making something up about family issues, which rather than being simple obfuscation is a total falsehood, is silly. I just wonder if they felt obligated to go in that direction.
If Gibbons is off the team, and Hoke says it but refuses to give any reason, people will start sniffing around. Whether this was just a lie to throw them off the trail, i don't know.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||There's nothing to gain, and||
There's nothing to gain, and the only standard that will be applied was whether the U properly followed its own policies in rendering its verdict, which is non-legal. It only relates to his enrollment in the school.
Even if he could protest, what good comes of it? He would look awful even if he were legally exonerated. His eligibility is gone and cannot be returned, and he was never a prospect for the NFL.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Actually, there is a||
Actually, there is a discussion of it on one of the reports, if the muckracker who made a big deal of this in August is to be believed. The name is redacted, so it could actually be anyone--but it clearly states an "allegation" that someone "threatened the victim."
|5 weeks 3 days ago||FWIW, it's possible (and I||
FWIW, it's possible (and I would not be at all surprised to discover that the Athletic Department checked with a lawyer about this) that even a vague "violation of team rules" could in the end be considered a discussion of his infraction and a violation of his right to privacy.
I don't know that this is the case, but it is possible. If a lawyer said, "You're at risk of violating FERPA if you reveal that his departure from the team is due to disciplinary action," that puts Hoke in a tough spot.
Just a possibility.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||This seems, to me, to be the||
This seems, to me, to be the most plausible explanation available that would also exonerate the Department from most of its shame and guilt.
This issue did sort of resurface in August, and so it seems reasonable to think that someone would say, "Let's take a look at this." And the result is what we have now.
I'm not saying that's what happened, but that seems like a reasonable explanation that would keep me from thinking that Hoke and Brandon were particularly negligent.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Ugly basketball. MSU is||
Ugly basketball. MSU is struggling in some areas, but they're definitely thrilled with the pace of the game; this is their kind of game, not Iowa's kind. Bodes well for MSU late.
What's really impressive to me is that all these B1G teams seem to struggle on offense against top B1G competition. They just can't get it rolling in tough circumstances.
All these B1G teams except Michigan, that is. Even against smothering defense on Saturday Michigan was well over 1.00 ppp. That's a significant positive even compared with a year ago.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||1. A fair clarification. I||
1. A fair clarification. I didn't really have the patience to figure out what the quotee was, exactly, but he's not with the office at the moment. Still, we don't know how the process started.
2. I didn't say that Hoke should have kicked him off. I said that it was a very important question why he did not (and I can think of a couple of scenarios where he handled it well). I have been very careful not to speak in absolutes about Gibbons' actual criminal guilt, and in saying exactly what should have happened.
What I have said is that the way this has played out is very bad. I am sure this could have been done better. We do not yet have enough information to determine how.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Well, besides the direct||
Well, besides the direct quote from the office involved saying that it never takes more than a semester to resolve this, there remains a pressing issue:
There is no guideline that requires players to play football games while the process is underway. Coaches are free to suspend and/or remove players based on evidence that is not sufficient for a court conviction. Hoke could have kicked Gibbons off the team before he ever coached a game if he had been so inclined.
Why he was not inclined is a big question. A very big question.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Another, somewhat related||
Another, somewhat related downside of this: many hear dislike rumor-mongering muckrackers who stir up dirt just to stir up dirt; this gives instant credibility to at least one of them. Any time you give scorners the moral high ground you've made a big mistake.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||This is a black mark. Any||
This is a black mark. Any illusions Michigan fans had of moral high ground, relative to certain behavior issues at rivals MSU and OSU, has vanished. That this took so long to resolve is a disgrace.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Helpful link,||
Helpful link, thanks.
Follow-ups are actually a good idea, just for our own understanding of what was and wasn't revealed. Note that Brendan's name is not revealed in that article--did it make significant news when he was identified?
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Unfortunately, this story||
Unfortunately, this story wasn't just about Gibbons. Another, very good and very significant Michigan player, was alleged to have had verbal interactions with the alleged victim that were highly innappropriate. I don't have the link handy, because I read the stuff about this in the fall when it blipped upward, but it's there.
I don't know if that has any bearing on this issue or not. And, indeed, some subsequent choices made by people involved suggest that nobody felt any of this would blow up. But it's there.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Nothing credible regarding||
Nothing credible regarding allegations of actual administration cover-up or removal of the AD. Obviously, the allegations against Gibbons are quite credible, and the fact that this has been sitting around for three years without so much as a game missed is a black mark regardless of what comes out from the behind-the-scenes story.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||It wasn't that public,||
It wasn't that public, because this information has some as a big surprise to a lot of people every time something new has come out. A few months ago a thread on 11W (I think) brought this event up, and there was a corresponding thread about it here; it was the first I had ever heard of it.
So I looked into the actual information available, and it was mostly published by one guy who appears to have a grudge against the University and likes to stir the pot. There aren't a lot of major media sources discussing it, or even a lot of opposing blog traffic that would be associated with a larger paper trail.
It does, indeed, look suspiciously under-reported.
And, at any rate, a "burden of evidence" may be important in expulsion issues, but there is no such burden required to suspend someone from a team for a "violation of team rules." And that never happened.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||You think a coach is going to||
You think a coach is going to publicly reveal a legal issue like this at a press conference? That venue is not the time nor the place. He is not "covering" for Gibbons by failing to divulge all details at the time.
He is only "covering" for Gibbons if he is attempting to shield him from just consequences, and we do not know if that has happened or not.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||I don't like the conspiracy||
I don't like the conspiracy stuff either; "I know a guy" is a very general statement that has little or no credibility in these areas.
But it's hard not to wonder why it took a review of a case due to a "revision" of sexual conduct policies (a revision that apparently occurred in 2012, right?) to get him off the team. The information was clearly available at the time it occurred.
If you hear that one of the Athletic Department's athletes is involved in an alleged sexual assault, do you need a policy revision to investigate it? No.
I don't know a guy. I don't care about that stuff. But it is, frankly, inexcusable for this to take three years to become fully public.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||I don't know anything about||
I don't know anything about higher-up issues, and there's nothing credible we can speculate on at this time.
Nonetheless, this does not look good at all. There were allegations associated with this case that included some unfortunate behavior by other, more significant players, and those allegations now look more credible. Why this happens at the end of Brendan's career is beyond me.
And we rode that guy to a Sugar Bowl win. Ugly. This is a big black mark for Michigan and its fans.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||The 2002 Olympic hockey||
The 2002 Olympic hockey tournament is still the best hockey I have ever seen in my life, and the Olympic tournament continues to be a fantastic event. Of course, this crosses over from natural hockey fandom, so it isn't hard to like.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||I'm hoping to try it at the||
I'm hoping to try it at the local curling club someday, but I'm not sure I get what you mean, because choosing the right weight and curl looks brutally hard to me.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Yep. Gravity + ice/snow =||
Yep. Gravity + ice/snow = Speed.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||I'm afraid I'm confident that||
I'm afraid I'm confident that at least a few top tennis players are. Quick recovery from both injuries and from punishing matches, remarkable endurance, incredible strength and speed...
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Tennis has been so good these||
Tennis has been so good these past few years, and these two are the major reasons why. I'm strictly a casual fan, but I find this rivalry tremendously compelling, one of the best ever.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||We're stacked at the swing||
We're stacked at the swing positions. Irvin should explode next season once he gets the time and space to grow, and Levert will be back. Spike is still a great option as a backup PG. I think the questions next season will be under the basket.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||What's wrong with that? We're||
What's wrong with that? We're not talking about the next Larry Bird, here--Nik is an exceptional college player who has really grown his all around game, but the NBA is REALLY TOUGH. The fact is, if you're not a superstar, the way to make it is to find a niche to fill, a role that NBA teams need on the floor.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||I agree. I actually think||
I agree. I actually think there could be a successful major junior-type of basketball league, but the fact is that football has just too many scale issues and logistical challenges to produce a new minor league that actually pays players money.
|7 weeks 1 hour ago||Dave Dombrowski still has||
Dave Dombrowski still has time to sign Stauskas to close games for the Tigers. Just saying.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||You mean B1G teams with||
You mean B1G teams with really good bigs, teams with shut-down defense that can make running the offense really challenging, teams that can keep Stauskas out of the flow and expose the lack of playmakers elsewhere on the floor?
|7 weeks 4 days ago||It's a team with good players||
It's a team with good players but without transcendent ones. Stauskas is the best offensive option, but we saw against Duke that he can be controlled by certain teams--he's not a sure thing every game.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I'll be just fine with 1-2,||
I'll be just fine with 1-2, but 0-3 is a very real possibility and shouldn't push us off a cliff.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||He's the Packers PBP guy.||
He's the Packers PBP guy. Still kicking around.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||It's really amazing I didn't||
It's really amazing I didn't become a basketball fan for life. My friends and I watched all the time, shot hoops in our driveway all the time, and lived and died with the Pistons and Wolverines. Snow day at school? Watch Hoosiers to pass the time. And it paid off. For a 9-10 year old it was amazing.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||That was a funny end-take.||
That was a funny end-take. Hughes is a classy guy--he lived across the street from my grandparents when he coached the Grand Rapids CBA team and graciously attended my grandmother's wake.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I hate it. With the||
I hate it. With the white-hot-hatred of a million suns. It is worse than any other of the crazy uniforms by a factor of ten.
I'm not joking. I'm not just grousing. Maize is a great color for basketball and hockey. But football home jerseys ought to be dark. Michigan Navy Blue, specifically, where it pertains to our team.
Fortunately, I think that's a Riddell mockup... but it is a horrible one.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I would prefer that PEDs not||
I would prefer that PEDs not be in sports, but I am realistic enough to realize that they are everywhere. The PED principle is pretty simple: If there is a benefit to taking PEDs, people will take them. If they are not frequently caught, the PED-users will become the best players.
Football is a sport where size, strength, and speed are all assets that translate directly into dollars, and PEDs can influence those attributes significantly. Therefore, I have little doubt that they are widespread in the sport; unfortunately, even in college and perhaps high school. Testing is a bit of a limiting factor, but only a bit--smart dopers never get caught.
Sure, some guys do get caught, but it's always because they made a mistake. Ryan Braun had passed many tests before he flunked; he got caught because he messed up. That's all.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||This doesn't look good. The||
This doesn't look good. The Lions clearly whiffed on Whisenhunt, who was their preferred choice; it looks like they could have gotten him if they had moved faster, but Tennessee got to him first and that's that.
The one thing I did like about Caldwell was the report that, for his interview, he charted every one of Stafford's passes with notations on what corrections he would make. So we're not looking at someone who isn't already putting in the work to improve the team. And, frankly, I'm glad his interview was not just a Rooney Rule throwaway, but that he had a legit shot at the job.
Still, I wanted Whisenhunt (or Lovie or Jon Gruden). The Lions were thought to have the best opening in the NFL this year and wound up with a hire that is, at best, un-inspiring. That's an organizational problem. They failed to execute.
Contrast this with how Brandon got Nussmeier on board. Pretty stark.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Given how things have gone, I||
Given how things have gone, I believe that Nuss will escape blame if things go sour.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||He looked pretty good last||
He looked pretty good last time ND saw him.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||People really are too hard on||
People really are too hard on Brandon. Bag on him for piped in music, prices, and so on all you (ok, we) want, that's legit. But the people who were calling him a buffoon who "couldn't see" what was wrong with the FB program were just being ignorant.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||On intelligent TV||
On intelligent TV broadcasts:
I also really liked the all-22 coaches room channel, and watched most of the game on that. I echo several of Brian's complaints; the all-22 angle was small, which made it harder to see. In fairness, though, keeping a small window on the main broadcast helped me see what was happening on the field at times when the coaches were analyzing a play. With a little more production effort, they could flip on that window only when needed and keep it off the rest of the time.
Chryst seemed to be a bit challenged by the whole format; some guys just aren't cut out for certain television jobs, and he seemed to be one of them. Early on in particular he wasn't quick enough on the draw to really get some analysis out, and the "hosts" had to ask him questions to get him air time. I don't hold that against Chryst; Sumlin, Spielman, and Millen are all very forceful television personalities (Millen was initially too talkative, but toned things down, probably upon request).
The quality analysis did demonstrate, pretty convincingly, how hard it is to be a color commentator. There is a certain rhythm to what you say, and you simply can't use everything you know, because there is not enough time and the audience is not knowledgeable enough to digest all of it. Even there I think guys like Spielman were leaving some of the deeper "inside football" stuff on the table.
Adazzio was also quite good, by the way. Nobody is talking about him, but I thought he was smart and worked well.
On Borges and gameplans:
I don't think the problem with the way Borges gameplans is his philosophy of using different sets and base plays. That philosophy has won Super Bowls at places like Denver and St. Louis. New and strange formations, different personnel groupings, all of that stuff comes right from successful NFL thinking.
The problem is that the limitations of college football prevent him from actually doing what it takes to make it successful. He cannot install enough formations and plays to make every down a challenge for the defense to understand--he runs out of new stuff by the second half. In an ideal world he would still be unleashing new concepts or second-time-only runs of concepts introduced in the first half well into the fourth quarter.
Instead, he's left with taking stuff that worked in the first half and trying it over and over again.
Nonetheless, it takes a lot of time to install all of this stuff in 20 hours of practice every week. And that leads to the second problem--the players spend less time getting good at running the plays they run. Devin doesn't get to learn the subtleties of how different coverages respond to base formations and personnel groups, because the formations and personnel are different every time. That makes it harder for him to make reads.
Peyton Manning can do it, of course, because Manning might spend 20 hours a week just studying and watching film.
Devin Gardner graduated in three years and is pursuing a master's degree. He doesn't have the time.
The problem with Borges is that he wants to run an offense that is unrealistic given the constraints of a college program, especially one that takes practice hours and academics somewhat seriously. Coaches like Gus and Chip deliberately run stuff in college that is manageable for their players, and their players learn to get good at it.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Well, this is getting off to||
Well, this is getting off to a fantastic start.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||College football is the||
College football is the greatest sport on Earth. What a great conclusion to a brilliant season.
Unfortunately, Michigan's season leaves most of us with a sour taste in our mouths. But herein lies one of the hidden strengths of the game: The long offseason. Now there is a time to flush out the bile, to rest, to reset. And to build that hunger again. And by August, we will be ready to go again, ready to ride the weekly rollercoaster.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||-20 ish in Duluth. It was -27||
-20 ish in Duluth. It was -27 some time before noon and will be again, pending cloudcover; I suspect Hoke would wear a coat.
If he didn't, he would have to be evacuated to a local hospital, and Al Borges would take over. Sending many other people to hospitals.
EDIT: Windchills of -55 at night, -45 during the day.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||There's a difference between||
There's a difference between the actual, empirical conditions and our subjective level of misery, isn't there? '95 Purdue gets a lot of mention, and isn't it at least in part because the game was aesthetically a disaster?
|8 weeks 6 days ago||I was there. I have never||
I was there. I have never again been so wet in my life. From rain, I mean. It was remarkable.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Then you were at the||
Then you were at the snow-covered playoff game against Walled Lake Western, played in snow, the year that Huron made state final, no?
|9 weeks 3 days ago||I live in Minnesota, but you||
I live in Minnesota, but you never really get away from being a Michigan fan. It is always there.
However, it is nice not to constantly encounter reminders of football or arguments about what must be done. I don't know any real MSU fans up here, the Vikings are as disastrous as the Lions, and the sports that matter for the Gophers (and UMD Bulldogs) right now are ones that Michigan is actually competent in.
One of my small pleasures this fall was the act of listening to the radio on a Monday after a Vikings loss. Really helped me relax.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||We were so smug about it,||
We were so smug about it, too. I know I was, watching them flail helplessly against bottom-half MAC teams while Michigan torched Notre Dame. Pretty sickening to see how things have turned around; they never reached the heights we showed we were capable of, but they also had consistency. And, of course, a much better defense.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Stanford's gameplan, too, and||
Stanford's gameplan, too, and notice that they hit a couple of those deep passes, narrowly missed a couple of others, and drew a penalty or two against the defensive backfield. Not enough to win the game, but they were there. The problem is that MSU "downloaded" them in their typical fashion and the time to execute those plays simply ceased to exist.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||I'm sorry, I don't give a||
I'm sorry, I don't give a staff the benefit of the doubt after the nuclear disaster that was this year's offensive line. Yeah, young and inexperienced, blah blah blah. They had very solid tackle bookends, needed only to produce competent (not spectacular, not even good, just passably competent) guards and a center, and the team would have done pretty well.
Instead they produced the WORST OFFENSIVE LINE IN THE COUNTRY.
Not mediocre. Awful. We're talking about a line that could not get push or protect against bad MAC teams. Against teams like UConn that were so bad that their coach got fired in midseason.
That is not growth. No level of inexperience, regardless of whether or not there are highly touted prospects on the roster (and there are), can excuse that performance. I think we could all accept the occasional mistake, a poor read, or the occasional blown protection. I think we could accept the idea that the running game isn't quite where Michigan wants to be.
But what was actually produced was utter, colossal failure.
And a staff that fails that comprehensively does not get the benefit of the doubt for five years. They must produce wins next year or they must be fired. I'm not a quick-trigger guy on firing; I've defended Borges more than most on this board (and in fairness the OL was so bad that Borges could not produce a good base gameplan because even routine base plays simply did not ever work). But if next year is not a drastic improvement over this year they should all be given their walking papers.
If we have another year like this and they are given a fifth year, fans and recruits will jump ship en masse. It would be an irrevocable disaster that would set the program back by another decade. Next year or bust.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Well Zona would||
Well Zona would unquestionably be favored against us right now. And that is a very, very sad thing.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||I have no real objection to||
I have no real objection to the Leafs being here; in fact, my Dad is from Toronto and I've followed a lot of these guys, and my family and I have a healthy rivalry here. I watched game 7 in '93 in Toronto with them, sort of a great experience kinda.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||I see your point. FWIW I||
I see your point.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Garbage. Not because it isn't||
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Longer than that, unless you||
Longer than that, unless you think the Hensick/team meltdown against North Dakota was worse (I don't). 01, 02, and 03 were all Frozen Four runs featuring guys like Jed Ortmeyer.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Burke fires for three! The||
Burke fires for three! The game is tied!
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Eh, don't feel bad for them.||
Eh, don't feel bad for them. They played against a "real" team, got the experience, went back home. Their identities are not tied up in their basketball performance.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||I hadn't realized that Capaci||
I hadn't realized that Capaci was the coach. That's telling, since he is also the pastor of the church the school is based out of; the college, which is not overflowing with money, probably cannot afford to retain a staff member who has coaching experience.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Beats me too, and I went to a||
Beats me too, and I went to a school that is kind of similar in a distant cousin kind of way. Four times bigger than Champion, higher level, still nowhere close to D-1 or even D-3. Never tried to get a game like that, because what's the point?
|9 weeks 6 days ago||So this really is as absurd||
So this really is as absurd as it sounds, and there isn't some secret bad information I've missed that makes this logical?
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Why should Brandon meddle||
Why should Brandon meddle with Hoke and force him to clean house on staff? Does he just force him to fire Funk, or Borges, or both, or Mattison too?
I agree with SwordDancer's premise. But that doesn't mean that Brandon is going to force Hoke to fire the staff, nor should it. If he wants to give Hoke the opportunity to put up the results his (mostly excellent) recruiting suggests he should, and Hoke is comfortable with his staff, give him a chance to put it together.
DB will probably leave the choice for staff changes with Hoke, since Hoke is the man whose job is on the line next year. And then DB will judge Hoke by the results.
And if the results are inadequate, it will be that much cleaner when everyone is let go.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||I'm relying on what I see||
I'm relying on what I see with my eyes and hear with my ears. On what my mother, season ticket holder and Stephen Ross Business School graduate (masters degree) talks about. And on a logical analysis, rather than an emotional broadbrush cartoon of a person I have invented in my own mind.
If you think that holding on to a mediocre football coach as your loyal fanbase streams for the exits and stops donating and spending money is good for one's image, you must have a funny idea of how one gets elected in politics. Frankly, you've allowed your dislike of Brandon to cloud your judgment, to the point that you will believe anything you imagine about him as long as its bad. Thus you invent an evil genius who is so corrupt that he will deliberately make bad business decisions if you think the decision is wrong.
If you think people won't flee for the exits if Michigan has a rough season next year, you haven't watched much college football in other venues lately. You haven't seen how Tennessee's mediocrity has bled passion out of its fanbase, and left it with not-infrequent empty seats in its gorgeous stadium. You haven't seen the thousands of empty seats at places like the Swamp, whose fanbase is allegedly as passionate as any in the country. You haven't seen the empty seats at Beaver Stadium, home of a fanbase still known for its passion and cohesion even as it began having a hard time selling out even before the Sandusky scandal beset them with chaos. You didn't see all the empty seats at Auburn last season, a fanbase two years removed from a perfect season. And you clearly didn't hear Nick Saban begging Alabama students to show up to cheer on perhaps the most dominant football team of my lifetime.
College football lives on a bubble. It is very close to deflating. People are emotionally attached to Michigan football and always will be; however, if the emotions associated with actually attending games becomes almost universally negative, people will stop seeing that as a good way to spend their many hundreds or thousands of dollars.
And Brandon, a businessman, will see that disaster looms. And he will make a change.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Also important: The key guys||
Also important: The key guys in the '97 defense were all guys that Mattison had coached. He was good at developing players back then, at least.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Also, the actual playcall on||
Also, the actual playcall on the conversion against OSU was just fine. The problem is that they lined up to run the play before the TO, then ran the same thing after OSU had gotten a chance to see their look and adjust to it.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Because the play wasn't in||
Because the play wasn't in the playbook at the time.
Borges designs and installs new plays every week. It's part of his MO, and I think part of the reason why Michigan's base offense is mediocre. Those plays are often teased or totally unleashed in the first part of the game, as part of the "script" that the offense runs. In this case the conversion play was a counter off of plays run earlier in the game, plays developed specifically for this game.
If you closely watch the first couple of drives of most of Michigan's games, you will see a smart and varied gameplan, unusual looks, and new plays that seem to portend a lot of promise. Then, after the script is exhausted (usually by a couple of punts, since there is always a missed pass for a conversion or a stuffed run mixed in somewhere) the offense stops bringing out new stuff, and things bog down.
Borges is far from the only coach to do things this way, but it is more obvious here because the basic plays that are supposed to be a staple of the offense (you know, power and iso and inside zone and stuff like that) don't work at all.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Fair enough. It was bad. I||
Fair enough. It was bad. I think it wouldn't look quite as bad with a real offense, though.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Typical mindless straw-man||
Typical mindless straw-man argument: "I think Brandon is an idiot, so I think he'll leave Hoke to protect his image."
|9 weeks 6 days ago||I'm wondering if he is a bit||
I'm wondering if he is a bit handcuffed by Hoke, whether or not the orders to be cautious regarding big plays come from the top.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||I don't mind it. It was||
I don't mind it. It was clearly designed as a short-yardage goal-line type play. Quick action, short route, much lower chance of disaster. If you do that further back, it's just another tricky play (there were plenty) that may or may not work, with a guy in Gallon who cannot he trusted to throw it deep as a big play would require.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Well this would be a good||
Well this would be a good time for things to come together and Michigan to finally play like an elite team that actually plays sharp and loose on the road.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Delusional to say "I don't||
Delusional to say "I don't expect a playoff berth?"
|9 weeks 6 days ago||I knew Michigan would lose. I||
I knew Michigan would lose. I knew, frankly, that there wasn't much to take from the game either way. With Devin in maybe the offense has a spark and we're looking at a 24-24 game late or something.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Lots of questions about the||
Lots of questions about the defense after the first half. Wojo's twitter feed is startlingly critical.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||22 yards of rushing. That's||
22 yards of rushing. That's barely more than a yard for each practice.
|10 weeks 3 hours ago||Is he still doing his Ufer on||
Is he still doing his Ufer on radio call-ins? He was my favorite caller on WTKA when I lived in town. Beautiful stuff.
|10 weeks 6 hours ago||I agreed with someone else's||
I agreed with someone else's suggestion of Mark Champion above. The other guy that I think is worth a look is Ben Holden. Good voice, does a good job with PBP, would be a great voice of Michigan for years.
|10 weeks 6 hours ago||I like Champion too, and I've||
I like Champion too, and I've never really gotten over him getting lifted for Miller. Champion is a fantastic announcer, way under-used. He would be a good choice.
|10 weeks 6 hours ago||Karsch called some women's||
Karsch called some women's B-ball for WTKA back in the day. He was not good at it at the time. No idea if he's grown into the role since then, but PBP requires a certain use of voice that some people, no matter how sharp and talented, just don't have.
|10 weeks 6 hours ago||The Tigers gig is full-time,||
The Tigers gig is full-time, impossible to combine with football.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Per Bruce, it was the second||
Per Bruce, it was the second drive of the third quarter. I seem to remember him coming up hobbled at some point, but can anyone pinpoint when it was?
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Pretty much confirming that||
Pretty much confirming that the result of this game will be about as irrelevant as any bowl game in Michigan history.
Think about it: All of our goals are smoked. Nobody will remember or care about the actual final record. The opponent is ok, not outstanding. The time slot is buried. The result will have no bearing on either the expectations or the actual performance next year at all. And if we lose (particularly if the offense stinks) there is a built-in "we started our freshman backup" excuse.
The fact is, Michigan needs to produce in a big way next season or there will be despair, chaos, and mass season ticket attrition. What happens Saturday will not have any effect on this.
Perversely, this absence of stakes will make Saturday's game more entertaining to watch, because there is less fear involved. At least, for me.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Per Angelique yesterday,||
Per Angelique yesterday, Shane was running practice Wednesday. So we can conclude he will start Saturday. It's not clear to me that Devin is anywhere close to being ready to play, but if he is I suppose he can be an emergency backup.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||And there we go.||
And there we go.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||Sounds bitter to me. That||
Sounds bitter to me. That doesn't necessarily mean that everything he has to say is hogwash--just look at whacko Jose Canseco, whose arrogance and attention-seeking nonetheless turned Baseball upside down. But I find it very hard to believe that the coaches could keep him completely out of the NFL without real reasoning behind it. Just to use one example, it's not like New England doesn't take the occasional challenge situation and it's not like they couldn't use a receiver right now.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||No, and Kill's surge of||
No, and Kill's surge of success this season has earned him some goodwill.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||It seems like the "issue"||
It seems like the "issue" with Irvin is, "plays a role already clogged with Michigan's best players." I think it's hard to draw any conclusions beyond that.
|12 weeks 9 hours ago||I disagree, particularly in a||
I disagree, particularly in a tight area like Ann Arbor at the fringes of the University. In Duluth, my favorite Chinese place has had to go through a similar trial, with its location sold (to CVS, as it happens) and a long wait to figure out if they had a place to move to. For a while, the inability to find a new location and the money to move held up the entire property sale, but the owners eventually just closed the restaurant.
It was not poorly run, but it was tremendously popular. No matter; it's gone. Maybe it will come back, but there's no guarantee of this, and the area of Duluth they are in is a lot easier to find space in than Ann Arbor.
The fact is, these restaurants just do not have a lot of spare capital floating around to make big changes to their business. They have a specific model of staffing, equipment, and food that works as far as it goes but does not do much more than pay the staff and net the owners enough income to live off of.
|12 weeks 9 hours ago||Man, I can't believe how much||
Man, I can't believe how much of this I've seen in this thread. I'm not an anti-Brandon the way some are (though he tries my patience), but to compare a small, low-margin restaurant business with the Michigan Athletic Department is ludicrous. U of M athletics rakes in millions of dollars in television, apparel, ticket, and donation revenue, pays its top employees massive salaries, and has a brand that is recognized worldwide.
Blimpy Burger is none of these things. Anyone who thinks that the management is rolling in cash and just trying to get more (you know, because this is way more profitable than actually opening the restaurant again and raking in the riches they apparently make) has no concept of what is actually involved in running a small business.
If Blimpy had the money and the situation available to open right now, they would open right now. If they are as rich as people think they are, they would have no motive not to re-open to rake in the cash.
It seems clear to me that they are in a tough spot. Don't donate if you don't feel like, but don't pretend that you have a clear understanding that they're just a bunch of greedy businessmen, either.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Who needs elite guys? The US||
Who needs elite guys? The US doesn't just own the top-end talent, but has all the depth too. There are plenty of guys who don't quite make the NFL or who made it but left the league who would be physically able and willing to participate in such an undertaking. You could organize a permanent national team with regular try-outs and produce a great team with no effort.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Winter games, by definition,||
Winter games, by definition, must require a component of ice or snow in the sport. Anything that does not require those elements to be played is played in the Summer Games.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||I wouldn't say dominated.||
I wouldn't say dominated. There are a number of good Canadian players who contribute and even star at key positions.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||If you want this thread to||
If you want this thread to survive deletion for cause of duplicating a topic just posted yesterday, perhaps you could retitle this as the "Coaching Changes Wednesday Open Thread."
|12 weeks 3 days ago||There's no way this is||
There's no way this is happening. Maybe some football guy has a dream that someday football will be an Olympic sport and happened to tickle the ear of an article author or one person on the USOC, but this is not a thing. Never will be.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||Yzerman is one of the players||
Yzerman is one of the players I tell my kids about. A great scorer (only Mario Lemieux and Wayne Gretzky have ever scored more points in a season, albeit each multiple times) who became a great leader.
|13 weeks 2 days ago||Better get your tickets now.||
Better get your tickets now. Minnie fans will snatch up championship game tix if the Gophs are in it.
|13 weeks 2 days ago||It may be a weird and||
It may be a weird and somewhat frustrating mid-season for Michigan if trends continue. Coming into the season the question was, "Can they put things together and make the tournament?" Now, riding a blazing-hot start against a brutally challenging schedule, we ease out of football season and find ourselves in position to claim a #1 seed. So the question now is, "is this team good enough to win it all?"
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Good for Chad. I like seeing||
Good for Chad. I like seeing him succeed. Realistically, though, Henne's best chance for a good NFL career going forward is as a backup. Earning the starting job in what is being called "the worst QB situation in the League" is not exactly a ringing endorsement, and Henne has actually had some skill player weapons to work with.
And there's no shame in that. A good backup quarterback is a guy who has starting experience and is good enough to come in for an injured starter and win a game or two to keep a team in playoff contention. If Henne can do that (and, by his quotes, it sounds like he would enjoy the opportunity to be that kind of backup in J'Ville, which is a cinch to draft a new starter) he can build a good financial future, win a couple of football games, and stay in the NFL.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Yep. I get to follow the||
Yep. I get to follow the Vikings up close here in Duluth (this year, as a Lions fan, it has been delicious) and there is no question that their QB situation has been an anchor on the entire franchise, one that will probably cost Les Frazier his job. They reached to pick Ponder and it cost them three years of mediocrity. They threw $3 million at Freeman this year, just to take a shot, and the result has been zilch.
They will not do well without a strong quarterback.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||The subjective "best game I||
The subjective "best game I experienced" is an entirely different argument, in my view. Objectively judging "best games" involves criteria that is quite different from our experience as fans.
When you say "favorite game," there is an accomodation for the excitement of the game, quality of play, and stakes involved, but there is also a much more visceral emotional component.
1997 OSU was, for anyone who was there, a mountain-peak event that was as amazing as any sports experience we could hope to witness. A titanic clash between two great teams. Incredible athletes all over the field, huge hits, big plays...
But aesthetically, it was quite an ugly football game. I mean, c'mon, Stanley Jackson threw a pick-six RIGHT TO Andre Weathers. Michigan had no offense. And Andy Katzenmoyer's attempt at a conversion runback was embarrassing for everybody.
And nobody cares. Because Woodson was incredible and the noise was incredible and Michigan was #1 and we were going to the Rose Bowl. Objectively, it was hideous. Subjectively, it was the greatest thing I've ever seen.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||I think more in terms of a||
I think more in terms of a full day of sports.
The Michigan-Ohio State game was a classic, an all-time great game in the history of the Rivalry. It was excellent from beginning to end, and the stakes were quite high for one team.
But it's hard to put it on a list of all-time great games. I think it might be on a five-deep list of "best games of this season," but that's as far as it goes. The upshot was that it was a good enough game that outsiders like Peter King were awed by it, and that the sting is reduced because it was a privilege to watch my favorite team participate in it.
I suspect the reduced "feel" of the Iron Bowl is probably due to our emotional emptiness after the Game that ended just as the other began. The fact is, the stakes were incredibly high. Auburn has an outside national title shot, and Alabama is working on all-time dynasty status (the '02 and '05 title games you list are on my short list of all-time best games as well; part of the reason is that Miami and USC respectively were pushing for all-time dynasty status themselves--Miami, people forget, had a legit shot at Oklahoma's consecutive win streak). The rivalry was already great, one of the three best in college football. There were great players involved. And, frankly, the game lived up even before the finish.
It's not like it was defense-free, and it's not like it was offense-free either. Bama and Auburn traded haymakers in all three areas of the game. Alabama's 99-yard touchdown pass was a play of the year candidate, and it got outclassed TWICE in the same game.
And the ending... I'm a bit of a historical purist when it comes to college football. I resist and resent whatever "this is the best ever" flavor of the year comes by. But that was the best ending in the history of football. Maybe sports, period.
There's no shame in a great UM-OSU game being second to that.
But that brings us back to the "day of football." Because we were a part of a very, very special afternoon of sports. And it ranks right up there with the incredible moments of October 15, 2005. That was the day of the Bush Push (a remarkable, astonishing football game with its own epic ending) but it was so much more. At almost the same moment Leinart was tumbling into the end zone, Henne was drilling Mario Manningham to beat Penn State--one team's national title dreams preserved, the other dashed, all in the space of minutes. Less remembered but not less remarkable, Wisconsin beat Minnesota on an astonishing blocked punt in Minneapolis, and an emerging West Virginia team played an OT classic with Louisville.
It was a day for the ages; in my lifetime, the best college football has ever had, in perhaps its best ever season (that day, a classic Heisman race between two exceptional athletes, finishing with the greatest game ever played in the Rose Bowl).
Yesterday was the only day that comes close. A day where winners and losers alike can step back, watch, and appreciate that they follow this incredible game.
|14 weeks 5 hours ago||Eh. I'm not mad. Days like||
Eh. I'm not mad.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||I BELIEVE IN ANDREW COPP||
I BELIEVE IN ANDREW COPP
|14 weeks 3 days ago||When I get irritated at angry||
When I get irritated at angry fans, it is usually because they express an unhealthy sense of entitlement regarding the PERFORMANCE of the team. That somehow they have been personally insulted by what has happened on the field/court/ice.
|14 weeks 4 days ago||Are you kidding? The Michigan||
Are you kidding? The Michigan brand isn't even solid in Ann Arbor right now.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||And Saskatchewan will take||
And Saskatchewan will take it. Nice for a fanbase that really, really cares about the team.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Two division teams play each||
Two division teams play each other, two other teams play against non-playoff contenders.
So the divisional game ends in a tie and the other two lose. The worst day for any division ever? Certainly the most NFC North game ever.
|15 weeks 7 hours ago||Florida has two recent||
Florida has two recent national titles, including a humiliation of our arch-rival. They'll bounce back.
|15 weeks 8 hours ago||By that logic, Michigan||
By that logic, Michigan fields roughly ten such players on every down.
|15 weeks 8 hours ago||I think Gardner suffers from||
I think Gardner suffers from poor QB coaching and a complicated, new-plays-every-week scheme that makes it hard to get proficient at staple stuff. He has shown growth in many areas this year, yet he always has more to learn as the gameplan is torn up and re-invented every week and he is pounded by the rampaging defenses that his OL can't block.
|15 weeks 9 hours ago||Not sure how you think that||
Not sure how you think that Al Borges will do a better job coaching Morris than Gardner. Or do you think Borges is a really good coach at heart?
|15 weeks 9 hours ago||Of course it has the tools.||
Of course it has the tools. Funchess has emerged as a dangerous receiver (credit the coaches for moving him!) and Gallon is much better than we could expect given his tools. We have a 5-star RB and an experienced senior RB who has proven to be capable of rushing for 1000 yards. We have two future NFL tackles, one of whom could be starting in the NFL right now if he wanted. We have young but quite talented interior linemen. And our quarterback has great physical tools, good intelligence and work ethic (nobody graduates in three years by accident) and has proven his ability to be brilliant when properly equipped.
|15 weeks 9 hours ago||I flipped after Nebraska,||
I flipped after Nebraska, actually. I see the problems a bit differently than others, and I think a lot of people waaaay oversimplify things and try to deal in the reality that the actual decision-makers deal with, but Michigan's production against average B1G opponents is inexcusable regardless of the actual cause.
|15 weeks 9 hours ago||The offense stinks. It's not||
The offense stinks.
|15 weeks 9 hours ago||Why not? In cold weather with||
Why not? In cold weather with receivers that couldn't catch, Michigan needed to be able to run the ball.
|15 weeks 9 hours ago||Numbers don't lie. Michigan's||
Numbers don't lie. Michigan's offense has the tools to be good; it is not. There are a variety of factors that contribute to this, and lots of debate regarding why this is the case.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Yeah, Gallon has never made a||
Yeah, Gallon has never made a big catch like that.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Winston-Salem was involved in||
Winston-Salem was involved in the most controversial D-2 event of the year, the cancelled conference championship game last week which resulted from (I believe I remember this right) their QB being violently assaulted by players from the other team at a pre-game meal.
Good to see Slippery Rock in the playoffs. My local team, UMD, has made the playoffs yet again and get a home game, which I will probably brave the 20 degree high temp to attend. They are in the "region of death."
|16 weeks 4 hours ago||Yeah. I was worried about the||
Yeah. I was worried about the staff losing the team--the losses on the field are bad enough, but real program chaos is the sort of thing that #2 overall recruits decommit over, and stuff.
And while the world thinks OSU will roll all over us, I still have hope. Because the actual players are pretty good--if Michigan can catch lightning in a bottle, they can win.
|16 weeks 4 hours ago||You know how sometimes the||
You know how sometimes the score doesn't tell the whole story?
This game is the definition of the principle. The picture in the dictionary, etc.
At this point, with no real goals left, disaster around every turn, and the spirit beaten out of the fanbase, this win... was a very pleasant surprise. Michigan tried to give the game away perhaps a dozen times, but somehow managed to pull it off. The upside was that, after that field goal, everything I saw was fun again.
This might be our last win this season. It's nice to get. That field goal was the stuff of legend.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||Don't worry, Falk washed out||
Don't worry, Falk washed out the blood spatters after both the MSU and Nebraska games.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||I had hope for M The dawn of||
I had hope for M
|16 weeks 2 days ago||It's not just the history or||
It's not just the history or the losses. It's the way the team looks-the problems with player development, the real chance of significant staff changes. Suddenly, this is not a team on the rise.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Confirmed: this year's||
Confirmed: this year's struggles do matter. He talked about having a chance to win a national championship. After UTL II, it looked like we were close; now it looks a long way away.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||Here's the crux of the issue:||
Here's the crux of the issue: you say the coaches have let things get off course without doing anything about it.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||What theory do you have that||
What theory do you have that is more plausible? It is not plausible that, in decades of coaching, he has never understood the concept of constraint plays.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||This is related. See, in Al's||
This is related. See, in Al's ideal world, he would have multiple plays out of different looks that could accomplish the right things in those situations. But because he does not have time to install them, he is left with a re-run of a play that he already has. They are plays designed to be used only once or twice but that must be brought back because he needs something that play offers.
And sometimes they don't work. Keep in mind that he is working with a non-functional OL here.
This is my theory on that awful PA pass at MSU: I don't think Al had any real hope of the LBs biting, other than maybe a brief forward twitch. I think he believed he needed a certain type of pass pattern or yardage gain, and that he had seen that play show that kind of potential in practice or earlier in the game; he had confidence in the team's ability to execute. So he called it and was proven wrong.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||I think practice reps is a||
I think practice reps is a key here. In fact, I think the limited time in practice is the heart of everything that's challenging to this offense.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||Brian isn't attacking scheme.||
Brian isn't attacking scheme. He's attacking what the coaches do with it.
|17 weeks 24 min ago||MSU getting swept is not good||
MSU getting swept is not good for our RPI, because we are guaranteed to play MSU more than we play Tech.
That doesn't mean that revelling in their misfortune isn't enjoyable, just that it's not a notable plus for us. Not a huge minus either, of course.
It's really too early to look at rankings, there just haven't been enough games yet. Once we hit the conference season, the numbers will gel and we'll get a good outlook on tournament prospects and where the strength of the conference really lies.
|17 weeks 28 min ago||We are not an unusual||
We are not an unusual fanbase. We expect to win, many of us handle it poorly when we lose. No fanbase is free of these issues. Not Alabama, not Florida (did you see the empty crowd pic this morning?), not Tennessee, not Washington, not Oregon, not Ohio State, not Texas, nobody. Why do you think TWIS exists?
|17 weeks 32 min ago||The PR is bad, no question.||
The PR is bad, no question. It makes things worse than they actually are--the fact is, get the right coaching and the existing recruits coming in and the OL will improve significantly over the next few years.
I think Brandon justifiably felt that the football team was not going to improve significantly under RR. Maybe he could get a new DC and see that side improve a bit, but fan confidence was already shaken and if RR had produced anything other than the type of season Hoke did produce (unlikely with that defense) he would either have to fire him anyway or commit the program to mediocrity until RR stunk enough to fire.
I don't think things are the same kind of train wreck now. Fans are pretty upset, but that's because we suppress bad memories and live in the now, and the now is kind of depressing. Get the right OC and the right OL coach in, though, and September will dawn with real promise of improvement in key areas of weakness and the possibility of actually fielding a shut-down defense on the other side of the ball. And our current angst will fade.
|17 weeks 37 min ago||Sort of. Hoke has already||
Sort of. Hoke has already achieved a whole lot more than RR ever did--we will probably lose to both MSU and OSU this season, but he has beaten them and that is important. And he has taken Michigan to a BCS bowl game and won it. And, unlike RichRod, he is a lights-out recruiter who even if he loses some prizes at the end of this recruiting push will still draw a solid class.
In fact, certain parts of the team have shown growth. The defense is improving, more help is on the way, and the offense has turned some so-so recruits into extremely capable receivers, a position group I was worried about.
The problem is the offensive line, and the offensive philosophy that is around it. Fix the line, reboot the philosophy, and Michigan's talented skill players will start really humming, won't they? We know they can, we've seen it happen. So why not give Hoke a chance to do that? Contrast this with GERG's defense that wasn't ever competent and, with an exception or two, appeared to have few competent players and few players coming that would improve it.
Hoke deserves a chance to right the ship with the right OC.
|17 weeks 1 hour ago||That would get a home playoff||
That would get a home playoff game and probably a matchup with Carolina or whomever finishes second in the North. That's a winnable matchup.
|17 weeks 1 hour ago||What hole?||
|17 weeks 1 hour ago||Wouldn't it be wise to wait||
Wouldn't it be wise to wait until decisions are made at the end of the season? We could well lose the rest of our games and see the entire staff get fired, RR style. Or the ship could right and things look ok (it's at least theoretically possible, if not likely).
|17 weeks 1 hour ago||Don't worry, we play a good||
Don't worry, we play a good B1G team in a couple of weeks, I'm sure it will be even better then.
|17 weeks 1 hour ago||Maybe my second-favorite||
Maybe my second-favorite Lloyd moment of all time was 2003 at MSU when Michigan abandoned a dominant run game late to try a bootleg play-action pass that was blown up for a fumble-scoop-score that pulled MSU back into the game.
|17 weeks 1 hour ago||Of course it is coach speak.||
Of course it is coach speak. Most good coaches don't throw their staff under the bus in a post-game presser. If they do, it's a media firestorm. Nothing to be gained by saying any differently.
|17 weeks 3 hours ago||No. I would have liked him||
No. I would have liked him either of the last two times, but he doesn't even try to be ethical. Frankly, his thing works in the SEC where the media is deliberately incurious and the atmosphere is tinged with dollar bills; it won't fly here. We'd get a significant scandal within five years.
|17 weeks 3 hours ago||Yep. Ten years ago Chris||
Yep. Ten years ago Chris Perry won the Doak Walker, and then he left a smoldering crater that was filled with.... er... Mike Hart.
Maybe we should say the last six years.
|17 weeks 5 hours ago||This comment is typical of||
This comment is typical of the vacuous, empty-minded reasoning frequently found in complaints about Brandon.
The reasoning goes like this: Brandon is making decisions that make some money, and he has made some decisions that we don't like. He's a businessman--so he's probably just like those evil, soulless CEOs I see in movies. He hates regular fans like me and only cares about the almighty dollar. So naturally he won't do anything to improve the football program, which is what I care most about.
This reasoning is silly. Here's why:
1. DB is indeed concerned about money. That's a big part of his job in running the athletic department. A big reason for this, though, is because revenues fund the programs and proper use of them (say, a nice renovation of Crisler Center) leads to success on the playing field. He's also willing (to a fault, I don't like a lot of the decisions either) to think outside the box to raise revenues and keep the athletic department in the black.
2. A financially successful athletic department is an athletic department that is prepared for an uncertain future in college athletics, where stipends or even salaries for players may become a new reality.
3. The football team is the engine that drives the money machine. If it starts seriously flailing, people stop buying tickets, corporations stop investing in suites, donations go down, and advertising takes a hit.
4. The landscape of football is changing rapidly. Pictures of pathetic crowds in usually robust places like Florida were going viral on twitter this morning. There is a lot of talk on this board and in other places that attendance could be a serious issue with next year's lousy home schedule, even if the team is good.
5. For this reason, anticipating serious competitive trouble is a priority. I believe that this was the driving reason in DB's firing of RR; not just that the program was losing it, but that with the renovation of the stadium almost complete, Michigan needed to turn things around in a hurry.
6. Brandon heard the boos. He sees what's going on. He knows that money produces success on the field, and success on the field produces money. He knows that people have serious doubts about the football team next year. And he must surely know that season ticket sales (and their accompanying donations) could take a serious hit next year.
Conclusion: Brandon will not let the program disintegrate just because today's game is sold out. He is, surely, looking closely at the quality of the product. And, for financial reasons as much as anything, he will be very interested in the quality of Hoke's staff.
Expect changes, unless there's a major turnaround in the next two weeks.
|17 weeks 5 hours ago||I actually think Gardner can||
I actually think Gardner can be a capable pocket passer. We've seen the offense hum--think Notre Dame--and we've seen the players get put in position to succeed. Just look at how Funchess has developed.
It's true that execution is part of the problem. Nebraska is TERRIBLE against the run, running power or stretch plays to attack this should not be dumb ideas. But the OL is all kinds of awful.
Here's the thing: Execution is an issue, but I believe that the Borges plan puts the players into positions where execution is harder than in other systems. Remember, one of the advantages of Chip Kelly's spread system is that the reads are simple and quick. Al's are not.
And his record with quarterbacks is awful. To his credit, Devin has fixed a lot of the interception issues; but now, he looks scared and skittish behind the line, and makes far fewer good plays than he did early this season or even last season. I don't think Devin is coached well, and since his QB coach is also the OC with a lot of other responsibilities, that shouldn't surprise me.
The team is also slow. It takes a lot of time to call and set up for plays. That's a consequence of Al's philosophy. Not that they huddle, or even that they arrive at the line later in the clock; it's that calling or changing plays takes forever. A team that used to run no-huddle tempo all the time is now incapable of moving fast.
A different coach with a different philosophy, even if the formations and plays looked kinda similar, would do better than this.
I mean, c'mon. Minnesota is playing better offense than we are. It might be nice to have Max Williams on our roster, but other than that name one player on their offense that you'd take over ours. You can't.
|17 weeks 5 hours ago||Check Brian's twitter||
Check Brian's twitter timeline. He's done with Borges.
He hasn't actually been on the defend-Al wagon this season. It's more like calculated silence, waiting to offer his verdict.
I suspect the verdict comes Monday.
|17 weeks 5 hours ago||Actually, I doubt that||
Actually, I doubt that practice was that good this year. Punishing, heartbreaking loss to MSU? I'm worried about Hoke losing this team. And things are getting worse now. Wave bye-bye to the top recruits we're hoping for.
|17 weeks 5 hours ago||Team is in full-on meltdown||
Team is in full-on meltdown mode, by the way. They might not be soft, but they are in a tailspin.
Hoke is in danger of being the next Ron Zook, or at least a late-term Mack Brown.
Reggie Miller thinks things are going poorly.
|17 weeks 5 hours ago||It doesn't gain anything by||
It doesn't gain anything by firing him now, either. And while it gains little on the field this year, it will help its reputation with future OCs and with recruits down the line.
|17 weeks 6 hours ago||The problem with Borges isn't||
The problem with Borges isn't only, or even mostly, the playcalling.
It's the entire philosophy of the offense, the way they are taught, and the way they are built.
And it's a failure.
I no longer wish to defend anything about his coaching, even the stuff that I think is unfair. I have no energy for it. Numbers don't lie.
And the numbers are bad.
|17 weeks 6 hours ago||That's overstating it. He||
That's overstating it. He should get to finish the season, no reason to fire him now.
|17 weeks 6 hours ago||Posted my thoughts in my||
Posted my thoughts in my errant diary post:
I've defended him a bit this year. He can't do much with the OL.
But the numbers don't lie. Lots of playmakers, good talent on the team--and garbage offense at key moments. It's not just (or even mostly) his plays. It's the philosophy of the entire team. Notice how lousy the 2-minute offense is.
He must be gone.
|17 weeks 1 day ago||Borges has been working with||
Borges has been working with smoke and mirrors and a couple of good players all year. I have, repeatedly, tried to mitigate the loudest critiques, particularly of his playcalling.
|17 weeks 1 day ago||Since the NCAA tournament is||
Since the NCAA tournament is decided entirely by math, "looks" don't matter, but OOC record is big even between teams we play. Reason: we play four games against conference foes like Minnie, but only one against teams like BC. So Minnesota's stats matter a lot more.
|17 weeks 1 day ago||Any actual evidence of this?||
Any actual evidence of this? Wouldn't surprise me, and that finish was a disaster, but let's just say there are a lot of rumors floating around right now and I have to wonder if this is one of them.
|17 weeks 1 day ago||The only scenario where this||
The only scenario where this is even remotely possible is if Babcock is tired of full-time NHL coaching and wants a simpler job, and takes a college job as sort of a semi-retirement.
|17 weeks 1 day ago||It's not clear to me that the||
It's not clear to me that the late surge was the reason for his return, but retirement is an imminent possibility; if Michigan had won in St. Paul he probably would've announced it before he left the building.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||I think he left knowing both||
I think he left knowing both that Red still had some years to coach and that he would have a much better chance to get the job with head coaching experience. He was rather reluctant to leave in the first place; my guess is that Red encouraged him to go for the good of Mel's career.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||The worry many have, and I am||
The worry many have, and I am getting there, is that recruiting is going to get hurt by this year's performance. Look at the Scout quote upstream in the thread--if things start bogging down, recruits will start bailing. And then we might have to start over again.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||Okay, I've already said this||
Okay, I've already said this sounds bad. But some counterpoints:
Hoke and/or Mattison (I forget whom) has already been quoted this season as pulling back from some of the advanced technique coaching on the DL, because they were concerned that the players were thinking too much. MSU has, as a group, older players, so it isn't totally absurd for them to be installing higher-end techniques. And we know MSU's coaches develop players well, but it's not like we haven't seen Michigan's DL coaches develop quality options out of middling talent.
Also, you can't always read that much from warmups, because there's no context.
The larger questions, to me, are on Michigan's OL. I think the DL will develop okay.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||Is this verifiable? Because I||
Is this verifiable?
Because I want to go set something on fire now.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||Gardner appears to have been||
Gardner appears to have been coached to eat the ball. Remember, he was trying to throw it away when he tossed that endzone pick-six against Notre Dame.
Against MSU, sacks were far preferable to turnovers. Even a mediocre offensive performance could have put Michigan in position to be within a score late in the game, assuming turnovers are eliminated; one more field goal and Taylor's interception puts Michigan in position to tie the game.
So he was doing the right thing. It's just that nothing else worked.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||Because this team is||
Because this team is underachieving given the talent that it has. Devin is now a pretty solid bet to return next season, and I actually think he is good and can be very good--good enough to win games even when other parts of the team are not functioning well.
The offense will miss Lewan and Gallon, but there is every reason to expect every other area of the unit to improve even with the same coaching staff next season. Am I drinking koolaid? Maybe, but big upgrades are likely as players enter their second and third years in the program, which is what a lot of guys are doing. Darboh, whom everyone believes was poised to break out this season, should be healthy and on the field, and Funchess has already been a revelation.
Meanwhile, a good-but-not-great defense gets most of its key guys back, many of whom are also poised to improve.
Next season is the one Michigan has been realistically building toward. This year should have been better, because the line's incompetence is inexcusable and because Gardner has the talent to make incredible plays, but this year was always expected to be a building year. So many of the key players are young or hurt or both.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||If things don't correct this||
If things don't correct this season (and they still might, it's not like Michigan has never gone through stretches of ugly before) the staff probably will be on the hotseat next year. The defense will be expected to be great, instead of merely good, and the offense will at least have to be efficient and capable with Devin coming back.
But, as you say, the schedule is murderous. I actually think that all three of the "big" road games will be winnable, but it's hard to see them winning them all, or even most. And four years without a B1G title would be awfully hard to deal with.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||Ugh. So many thoughts, so||
So many thoughts, so little coherence.
I think it's realistic to think that there won't be staff changes next year; it's also discouraging, and I'm saying this as a guy who has been trying to put the brakes on the "Saturday was all Al's fault" wagon. I think Borges installed the right kind of gameplan and produced some promising concepts, but that there was little he could do with an OL that bad; I also think that, somehow, the overall system of coaching and player improvement is broken.
Borges does not seem to have a good track record of improving his quarterbacks, and whatever Funk's strengths and weaknesses, the OL is enough of a disaster that it would be a downgrade for a team like Northern Illinois. Something is wrong.
As Brian said, I expected Saturday to be bad. I honestly felt Michigan would probably lose by two touchdowns and score about 13 points; it was worse than I thought, but for all the reasons I expected.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||Quite true. I can't remember||
Quite true. I can't remember a time that I've been reading (which I started doing in the early RR years) that people haven't complained about the decline from the "good ole days."
And, frankly, this is a net-archetypical phenomenon. Back when I was involved with a small Ann Arbor internet service called grex.cyberspace.org in the early 90s, the "oldbies" in 94-95 used to complain about how things weren't great like they were in 92-93. And folks like me in '98 lamented the passing of the "good ole days" in 1996.
Nothing new here.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||You, at least, have some||
You, at least, have some understanding of the difficult decisions a "person in charge" has to make. There's a lot of angst about Brian's blowup over the recruit comments. I see both sides of it--Brian can be a bit harsh about disagreement, after all. But he also has larger things in consideration, like the problems that could arise if this board got a large, mlive-ish reputation for bashing recruits and the implications that could have on its relationship with the football program.
Part of the problem is that the issues being griped about here are really no different than the rest of the internet.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||I come here to relax. I||
I come here to relax. I actually found forming and presenting arguments regarding which coach or coaches' feet to lay the blame for this year's lost season relaxing and interesting after a busy, hard-working week with considerably higher stakes than a football result.
In high school and my early young adult years football was essentially one of the most important things in my relatively meaningless life. Even when I felt I had "matured" in my early 20s a tough loss would be hard to take.
I still cherish watching a Michigan game on a Saturday afternoon, and I enjoy thinking about and discussing the team, but this is only a diversion from weightier matters for me. One of the best things about posting here is that what I say, and what we are talking about, doesn't really matter at all.
As far as replacing Hoke, the cart is waaaaay before the horse here. At worst a staff shake-up is in order, and Hoke has shown the ability to attract good talent. I agree that RR was treated poorly here, and I disliked how much grief he got before he really deserved to get it.
But he was fired after three years because of what happened on the field, and Hoke's record isn't even remotely comparable. If RR had won, he would have been embraced, just as all winners are. Any outsider can come in and succeed at Michigan if they win.
|17 weeks 6 days ago||Yep, this. Hoke, who has been||
Yep, this. Hoke, who has been in football all of his life, has coached winning teams, who has rubbed shoulders with greats in the sport, is so oblivious to football that he doesn't realize there is a problem. It's a good thing that you can see what he can't.
I understand people want to analyze and critique, and that's okay. But people who genuinely seem to think that they see and know things that a coach at this level doesn't are deluded or intellectually dishonest.
|18 weeks 4 hours ago||I've said this elsewhere, of||
I've said this elsewhere, of course, but I'll leave this here:
Nobody should be surprised that Michigan's offensive line, with a brand new interior, would have some issues this season. It takes time to learn. There are going to be mistakes, and there are going to be trouble situations. I don't think any Michigan fan would have a problem with this.
It's always possible for a player or two to not "work out." Kalis has struggled this year, but it's always possible that he just has trouble "getting it" early in his career, or perhaps he is a "bust." Either would be a reasonable hypothesis in a vacuum. But we don't have a vacuum--we have a situation where Michigan has a significant cadre of players that have had a chance to prove themselves at the three interior line positions, and of them only one (Graham Glasgow, a walk-on!) has shown any competence at all.
But the line seems completely overmatched against even moderately adequate defenses. Its ability to run block is embarrassing; Michigan has put up decent, not great stats against cupcake defenses like Central, Uconn, and Indiana (Indiana just ceded 35 points to Minnesota, let's not pretend that their defense is competent), and was totally stymied by teams like Penn State and Akron (!!!).
Pass blocking has been okay for most of the year, but today it was a complete mess.
There is youth, yes. But there is also talent. I don't expect the line to be worldbeaters this year, but the level of play has been so disappointing that I seriously think they are worse than a good percentage of teams in the MAC. And this is with future NFL players, including a player in Lewan who could be starting in the NFL *right now* if he had entered the draft.
This is a comprehensive disaster.
And given all of this, one must conclude that there is a coaching problem. I don't know enough to know what should be happening or what is going wrong, but something is. It is true that if the OL were still Lewan-Glasgow-Miller-Kalis-Schofield, we would be furious that nothing else was being tried; it is also possible that all of the switching of players is hurting the ability of the linemen to learn to work together. I don't know.
But all of the goals for Michigan's season are gone, except for the last game of the season. And the OL is the chief culprit.
|18 weeks 5 hours ago||I have some agreement and||
I have some agreement and some disagreement here. It is true that Borges likes the long ball, and Michigan has tried to build its offense around his long-ball-happy scheme. It is also true that short passes are a good way to keep pressure off of the OL.
But there are some problems. First of all, Devin's unreliability--a startling number of his interceptions have been on short throws. His very first, against Central, was about as simple of a short pattern as you can get. Even when he does not throw picks, his productivity has been poor in the short game and he often misses reads.
Also, MSU's defense, outstanding to begin with, is well-suited to combating a short passing game. Press coverage with great DBs, experienced LBs, etc. They don't give you freebies. Frankly, Michigan did use some short throws that wound up getting it nowhere.
As I've said before, I don't think there is any OC that can make lemonade out of the offensive line, as it was against MSU. I think it would be a mistake to think that there is somehow some magical gameplan that can deal with serious OL issues, or that firing Borges and hiring someone else would magically fix what the problem is.
But it is fair to wonder if the checks were adequate, or if there is a way to incorporate shorter passes that Devin can handle. I wish he had a dedicated QB coach.
|18 weeks 5 hours ago||That's a fair question. It is||
That's a fair question. It is reasonable to wonder if perhaps there should be better checks for blitzes. Some checks that work with other teams aren't always practical, though--MSU's press coverage and excellent DBs force OCs and QBs to think twice about quick throws, because the players that would normally be targeted aren't actually as open as you'd expect.
This leaves them vulnerable deeper... but of course Michigan had trouble holding off blitzes long enough to make that matter.
Also, and this is something I do critique Borges for, Devin is not the best at reading defenses. I have before and still do question whether or not using Al Borges as the QB coach is the best situation, and wonder if a dedicated QB coach could help Devin and other quarterbacks grow more effective. Consider, for example, the play where Lewan wound up standing alone while Fitz was blocking the DE--Devin was checking at the line, I believe to adjust protection for a blitz he felt was coming. It was the wrong call. Is that something he did wrong?
It's hard to tell.
|18 weeks 5 hours ago||That tells me that we're||
That tells me that we're about to have another in-family civil war. Which is rather discouraging. If Michigan loses to OSU, and we probably will, things are going to be very ugly in Ann Arbor.
|18 weeks 5 hours ago||The offensive line is an||
The offensive line is an all-time disaster. I'll repeat my suggestion from earlier: Hire Mike Tice to consult, to get an outside perspective.
It is one thing to be young and not terrific; I can accept that. However, they are not just young, and not just occasionally making mistakes; they are unable to accomplish anything against any sort of competent defense. And it's not the recruiting, because there are plenty of good recruits in the mix, and none of them are getting it done.
No OC could have won that game. Not Urbz, not Chip Kelly, not Dana Holgerson, not Bill O'Brien, nobody. There is nothing you can do when you are that overmatched at the line of scrimmage.
|18 weeks 6 hours ago||I say "built to have" because||
I say "built to have" because the players are recruited and coached to a certain philosophy. The defense is built to a certain philosophy, too, and the coaching staff has made it clear that these two units depend upon each other, particularly in areas like time of possession.
I have not shied away from assigning responsibility to the staff. Since the PSU game, and really even before, I have been fairly consistent in my stance that Borges has made some mistakes, but that the reason his offenses have looked bad have been largely a consequence of a bad offensive line--and that the responsibility for that probably lies with Funk and also trickles up to Hoke.
I actually posted a thread a couple weeks ago suggesting semi-seriously (because, rather than trolling, I thought it would actually be a good idea, but never expected the staff to actually do it) that Michigan hire Mike Tice as a consultant to get an outside perspective on the offensive line.
And since I try not to repeat myself ad nauseum, I haven't felt like rehashing all of this. It's not like the board needs another person yelling "FIRE FUNK! FIRE BORGES!" Insomuch as their is rational discussion to be had, I try to keep mine to original ideas.
|18 weeks 6 hours ago||Today's game stunk. I want||
Today's game stunk. I want Nebraska to lose. I'm tired.
No matter. That play was a reminder that college football is the greatest game ever.
|18 weeks 6 hours ago||Play-action fakes frequently||
Play-action fakes frequently do not affect secondaries because they aren't necessarily supposed to; they are, particularly in the case of the pistol fakes, designed to freeze the linebackers.
And Gardner had windows to make short passes to receivers. They were open pretty much every time they ran the play; unfortunately, it wasn't always executed and it was only worth 5-7 yards anyway, so it wasn't something Michigan could use to control the entire game.