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|5 days 16 hours ago||injuries||
no, no, just kidding, yes I don't actually wish to see 18-22 year olds actually get injured....yes, I know it's just a game...
I'll show myself out, thanks
|1 week 5 days ago||Hrm. Hadnt realize that. May||
Hrm. Hadnt realize that. May just find another local brew then
|1 week 5 days ago||And God bless the NY bodegas||
And God bless the NY bodegas that now make it their mission to stock every random local beer in the tristate area so you can try them all!
|1 week 5 days ago||Try blue point toasted lager.||
Try blue point toasted lager. It has brought UM a win when I drank it throughout the past few games (and enjoying more tonight of course)
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Yes||
The reason for the question was that I read the article and found it to be in contrast to information I'd heard previously.
Basically, the article contradicts both the message I'd heard and and the rankings on the conference website, so I asked the question looking for something definitive. Not sure if anything like that exists (the conference rules don't clarify which "record" they refer to really) but thought it was worth a shot
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Does "record" = Conference record or overall record?||
I have heard mixed messages on which record would be applied by the B1G in the tie-breaker. Obviously Dienhart wrote the article under the premise that it's only conference record, but the "standings" section of the Big Ten website implies it's overall record (http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/standings/m-footbl-standings.html).
Anyone heard anything definitive (other than just assuming Dienhart is correct obviously)?
|6 weeks 6 hours ago||Checked back on where we were ~4.5 years ago||
Via that thread and, damn, wish I'd known then we were gonna get here now.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||+1 Insightful||
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Looked up the San Jose state||
Looked up the San Jose state schedule after reading this and realized Borges just had to watch Michigan tape to scout their game against Oregon State, then they got beaten by the team M handled easily.
Not onlu that but SJSU still has UNLV and BYU, on the schedule! Probably not fun days ahead even if he will be watching the defense not the offense.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Saw the pope||
Now drinking scotch... can't really complain so much
|10 weeks 15 hours ago||In the NATION||
yes yes, not just the state of Michigan
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Brooklyn summer ale||
Just biding my time until I need to switch to something harder to keep warm!
|30 weeks 15 hours ago||Phillies don't belong on this list||
they just won the world series in 2008 and won their division 5 years in a row. They're rebuilding now but not in that category at all
|51 weeks 1 day ago||Absolutely||
Great guy with an extraordinary devotion to the university. Sad to see him go as he was a constant source of positive energy and moved the program in the right direction academically and in terms of recruiting talent.
Wish he had succeeded more on the field, and sad to see him go.
|1 year 49 weeks ago||In case you guys didn't see||
Jon Runyan Jr.'s team high school team won the PA state championship for his group, so little Jon must be doing something right!
|1 year 49 weeks ago||woooo!!!||
actually infinite percent more voting, but we won't be picky since we're so happy
|1 year 51 weeks ago||That might be on the low side||
Serious question though - what do you you personally get out of telling everyone you're dropping your season tickets so much? Why do you want to keep talking about it?
Everyone has their own methods for dealing with disappointment, and this season has certainly been disappointing, but there just doesn't seem to be a lot in it for you.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||it's a nice straw man||
but no one is actually angry at the people who are dropping their season tickets.
No one really cares that you are taking your ball and going home. Not us, not the athletic department, no one.
|1 year 52 weeks ago||I am going to renew and ask||
I am going to renew and ask to move into better seats when all you people decide to drop. Next year might be bad but the year after that we have both MSU and OSU at home with what will be a great team by then.
So to all of you I say: please, give up your tickets, I will gladly move into your prime real estate.
It seems bad, but this team is just around the corner.
|2 years 1 week ago||Not sure why the callout||
I don't think SC's or anyone else's disagreements mean that they don't appreciate the vast knowledge you, Brian, have about Michigan football from watching and studying it. So why take the comments so personally? SC's posts add quite a bit of value to this site, and the debate is not as black and white as "I'm on this side of the fence you're on that side." It's helpful to have opposing points of view for me, at least.
And where does it get us if everyone agrees anyway? We all clamor more for Borges to be fired? Clearly part of the problem is execution and part of the problem is they're doing something difficult. When an offense performs like M has the past few games no one is really "dying on Borges Hill," even SC. The debate is really about where the coaches failed - in playcalls or preparing the players to execute hard assignments ahead of time.
|2 years 2 weeks ago||You're right that it's not||
You're right that it's not unheard of, but it's still not a very good foundation to build a "Hoke doesn't develop top tier talent" on.
|2 years 2 weeks ago||Power football still wins||
It seems to me that every team that has won the national championship has controlled the line of scrimmage with a physical attack. Even the spread teams that have won the national championship (Florida, Auburn, Texas to some degree) did it with physical, downhill rushing QBs and an offensive line that could run over people.
I don't mean to say running a spread couldn't work, but I think the Stanford-Oregon game does indicate that there is nothing inherently wrong with power offense (I hate the pejorative term Manball). We just need to pick an identity and stick with it - that has been the problem lately not the move away from the spread.
|2 years 2 weeks ago||next year||
|2 years 2 weeks ago||This||
Makes little sense on a few levels. First, Harbaugh is no longer there. Second, we are recruiting on Harbaugh levels. Third, you don't know that about Hoke based on anything other than his answers to dumb press conference questions.
This game should be encouraging to everyone that the program is headed in the right direction.
|2 years 2 weeks ago||thank you||
This is pretty much the call to reason I was hoping to read. While no one is happy with performances like Saturday's, I see this team on a very upward trajectory, mainly due to recruiting and the "crater" where the senior class should be. Firing is the easy part of the equation, but unless there is someone better suited for the job who those people think would realistically take the job and they can name them, it's only half an argument.
I had a lot of hope for this year that obviously isn't going to be fulfilled, but the idea of going through yet another coaching change is completely unpalatable. Borges bears much fo the blame for the performance this year, but I also think the offense-without-an-identity is partially due to the fact that he ran a spread (which we all applauded) for 2 years. It's technically year 3, but really only year 1 in the Borges system. They should still be farther along, but that with the youth should at least cast doubt on the "he needs to be fired immediately" argument.
Brian's point about transitions is the one everyone seems to forget. - they take time. Let the guy prove he can't win with his own class of seniors before jumping back into the cesspool of coaching changes.
|2 years 3 weeks ago||Even if it is prescient||
Which I don't think it is, it still sucks
|2 years 3 weeks ago||question||
do you think the problem is running from under center or the fact that our offensive line didn't play very well in that game? Is the blocking that different?
|2 years 3 weeks ago||This is exactly correct||
Every discussion on this forum seems to begin with the underlying premise that what Brian says is gospel, so disagreeing with him takes an incredible amount of effort. There is also seems to be a general feeling that not running the spread is a choice that could only rationally made by people who lack the capacity for abstract thought and hate knowledge and learning - it doesn't exactly foster a positive environment.
I personally have decided to diversify my sources of M football information and take Brian's post for what they are - informed editorials with identifiable biases.
EDIT: and I should be clear that I very much appreciate and respect this blog and the content providers here. My knowledge of the players and football concepts is worlds higher than it was when I started reading 4 years ago.
|2 years 3 weeks ago||Absolutely||
And I admire them more for their persistence. I just don't have the energy to fight the overwhelming negativity most of the board and front page has generated recently. Those two posters have done more than their share.
And thanks to the OP for posting this. SC in particularly has been far more well thought out and far more helpfully than nearly everyone on the Borges hatred bandwagon.
|2 years 4 weeks ago||Correction||
Jon Runyan Jr. goes to St. Joseph's Prep, and it looks like John Reid also goes there.
Also, as I mentioned in the Runyan thread Victor Hobson was also a prep guy.