Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
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|2 days 14 hours ago||Watc||
Watc you didn't get about it?
|4 days 11 hours ago||Come on man||
Don't try to put words in my mouth. Literally no one in this entire thread is saying the issue is solely due to talent. It is a mathematical certainty, however, that our talent pool is diminished because of our cultural focus on other sports, so to claim our mediocrity has 0% to do with potential talent never trying seriously at soccer or even having exposure to soccer is either disingenuous or ignorant.
|4 days 16 hours ago||Spatial intelligence||
I'll say he probably has the best spatial intelligence of any soccer player, which I consider to be an athletic measure. Reminds me of Wayne Gretzky. Reminds me of Magic Johnson.
People in this thread want soccer skills to be so unique, but they aren't. Trapping a long ball doesn't take more or less skill than making a 3 pointer. Dribbling a soccer ball doesn't take more skill than dribbling a basketball. Understanding of spacing isn't more important for Bobby Wood than it is for Danny Amendola or Darren Helm. Eye-foot coordination isn't more important for a soccer player than eye-hand coordination for a baseball player. And so on.
|4 days 16 hours ago||Don't disagree||
I don't disagree with any of this, but I think it's important to note that youth soccer, while very big in suburbia, is still not penetrating equally across all socio-economic divides. You mentioning the $2-3 k a year being a perfect example.
So I do think it is an opportunity problem for big chunks of our population.
|4 days 17 hours ago||Why is it||
Why is it 100% coaching and 0% talent? Who is creating this dichotomy? I'm not arguing against the importance of coaching and better youth soccer instruction, but it is impossible to argue against numbers.
If you have X number of kids and half of them are never exposed to soccer or were gently pushed toward other sports, you just cut your talent pool in half. For a country like Argentina, you don't have to even consider whether the kids will get a fair shake at showing their mettle on a soccer field. In the US, there's a good chance that a great soccer player got so little exposure that their talents were never developed/recognized. Whether or not that player is LeBron James or Adrian Peterson is not the point. The point is our theoretical talent base is much much bigger than our practical one.
So when someone says, how can the US have so many people and be so mediocre at soccer, well, part of the reason is that our population misrepresents our practical talent pool.
|4 days 17 hours ago||You're warping||
You're warping my argument.
People in this thread are essentially saying that NBA stars are only good because of freak athleticism and their skills wouldn't translate to soccer, which may be somewhat true in cases like a Russell Westbrook. There are many NBA athletes or NCAA Div 1 basketball players that did not make it based off freak athleticism. They made it because they are freaskishly good at everything else that makes one good at sports. Things like endurance, coordination, understanding of the game, quick thinking, honed a particular skill, basically all of the things people are listing as being so unique to soccer.
So no, you're not just missing out on a couple Zardes 2.0's, you miss out on every type of player when kids aren't exposed to soccer to begin with. Of course, you need coaching to then develop that talent, but once again, that's a separate issue for US soccer.
|4 days 17 hours ago||Everyone||
Everyone in this thread is equating athlete with essentially 40 times and verticals. Being good, or even wordclass, at a sport has a lot more to do with the other aspects of athleticism that are harder to measure. These traits, which people refer to as kinesthetic intelligence (as I referred to in another post), is what makes one person good at every sport they pick up, whether it's ping pong, golf, soccer, or basketball.
So we aren't just missing out on freak athletes, like say a Russell Westbrook, we're missing out on the bulk of the entire talent pool whether they are freak athletes, masterly skilled players (Curry) or all-around playmakers who seem better than they should be (Steve Nash types).
I'm not arguing that we need more Zardeses. I'm saying there our country size does not reflect our soccer talent pool compared to other countries because our best athletes (not just in raw measureables) play other sports.
The quality of youth instruction is of course important as well, but that wasn't the argument at hand here.
|4 days 17 hours ago||Football||
Football I can agree with, at least for certain positions. Basketball no. Skill is incredibly important to basketball in a similar way to soccer. So is quick thinking, spatial awareness, vision, etc., i.e., everything that goes into what people refer to as kinesthetic intelligence, which is not the same as raw athleticism.
And of course if you put some random athlete on a soccer field who has never played before they aren't going to impress. The point is, nearly all of our best talent, whether athletic freaks or just all-around excellent athletes end up focusing on other sports. Even if they do play soccer as a kid, they are probably getting mediocre instruction and less time on the field than international counterparts.
|4 days 18 hours ago||Who are these experts?||
Athletic people are good at sports. Athleticism is also not just fast or jumps high. It's coordination, spatial awareness, etc. Didn't you ever have the friend who was good at every sport? It's like how Harbaugh looks for QBs that were also stars of their baseball squad or what not. Look at Bo Jackson, Deion Sanders, etc.
Maybe Lebron would suck at soccer. Maybe his athleticism wouldn't translate. But when our best athletes are almost all choosing to focus on basketball, football, baseball, hell even hockey in the north, over soccer, it's ludicrious to suggest that that isn't a disadvantage for the US vs. nations where it's soccer and then everything else.
|5 days 5 hours ago||I think||
I think his point wasn't so much that they wouldn't care but more the communication part. We care about discovering all sorts of unintelligent life forms on earth, so that's likely not it. The problem is, how could we ever have meaningful communication with a worm. Worms aren't even all that different from us genetically (something like 70% of the same genome). So consider how different some other form of life would be, and how completely improbably it would be that our intellects would be remotely on the same page. This is a pretty good response to the Fermi Paradox people are pointing out in this thread as well.
|1 week 12 hours ago||True||
True, we're going to miss out on some gimmees at home. But, if the goal is to win the B10, as opposed to say just making the tourney and going 10-8 in conference, I think your road schedule is crucial. If you're competing for a title, you should be winning at home whether it's NW or it's IU.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||The ever||
The Dave Brandon Ever After Trophy: A giant macaroni noodle.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||No||
No, it was not "one big outside shot." He was 39% from 3 starting February.
I saw a kid who tried too hard when he was on the floor, likely because he was fighting for minutes and due to Beilein's unpredictable substituion patterns. He also made some passes that only Walton or Spike were capable of. The problem was for every great pass, he'd force one and turn it over.
His biggest strength goes unnoticed to many and especially to stats: defense. You can look to the Purdue game we lost in the BTT, where Swanigan couldn't do a thing when Kam was in the game.
Kam's biggest limitation, certainly within the framework of Beilein's offense, was his ball handling. Maybe Bacari will be able to better leverage Kam's strengths and minimize the impact of his weaknesses. Regardless, no one can look at the wing/forward depth chart next year and say we are better off without him.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||It's a projection||
No one is saying we are better than OSU, just that we project to be pretty damn good this year. It'd be ridiculous to go around bragging about a #3 preseason ranking, but it's hard to argue against it.
We project to have the likely the best or certainly the deepest DL. I doubt you'll find a better set of starting corners. Two safeties who have seen significant playing time, one of whom has potential to be a big time play maker. While uncertainty looms at LB, the unit wasn't good this year and we have Peppers plus healthy McCray and incoming Bush. I can see a talented freshmen like Bush actually contributing because frankly a lot may not be asked of the linebackers this year with the strength of the DL.
On offense, we have an OL that projects to be solid, two very solid+ WRs, a ridiculous TE group, options at RB and then there's QB. This team doesn't need a JT Barrett or Deshaun Watson. While there is uncertainty the options don't seem scary, maybe even arguably exciting, especially considering who is coaching them. If O'Korn is too mistake prone, it seems reasonable based off spring to think Speight could be a good game manager. Even in absolute disaster scenarios, you have Morris and Peters.
Projections are projections, so sure they don't mean much. At the same time, there is a strong argument for top 5 projection.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Poole||
Poole + Simpson + Wagner could absolutely be the foundation for a great team. No arguing there. In fact, it reminds me of projecting Walton + Irvin + Chatman...
|4 weeks 3 days ago||You left out the snark||
I'll help. Should we get excited and praise Beilein, 12th highest paid coach in the nation (3rd B10), for a fringe top 25 pre-season ranking (5th in B10) by a team led by two seniors who were formerly top 50 recruits?
|4 weeks 3 days ago||What||
What part are you shocked by?
|4 weeks 6 days ago||For a single||
For a single position or unit, I'll agree. Lewis may be the best player on the team, but Stribling and Clark are legit Mich/B10 CB starters. Peppers is a little unknown in the new defense but the argument could be made for him, especially if considering overall impact on the team.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Whatever||
Whatever happened with Dytarious Johnson?
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Well||
Well, sounds like their situation was a mess. I'm sure NCST would have liked to have held onto Russell Wilson too. Not saying this guy is at all comparable to Russell Wilson, just that grad transfers aren't always because the school is no longer interested.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Damn it||
Damn it, you make the Nebraska DT transfer sound a lot more useful than first reported in another thread.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||I suggest||
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|6 weeks 4 days ago||2.4 gs||
2.4 Gs is high but not insane. A commercial aircraft peak g-force is maybe 1.5. A Ferrari's ~ 1. And, the peak acceleration could of course be limited to whatever is determined to be acceptable. Furthermore, the number reported here is all but meaningless to us since this is an open-air test (not vacuum) and this is just the propulsion system/carriage, i.e., there is no payload (mass).
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Success||
Good recap, but I don't really agree with your analysis.
1. Caris: Far beyond what could be hoped for from a player at this time of the year. Still, he was a late bloomer that people actually were fairly high on when he signed, and we benefited from Groce leaving.
2. Spike and Rahk: Very different players but both guys who have been able to contribute in a meaningful fashion. They wouldn't be considered recruiting "hits" necessarily, except given the time of year. Nevertheless, Beilein beats the odds here.
3. Biefeldt and Dawkins: These are relatively expected trajectories for late signings. Not misses given the time of year, but nothing special in terms of recruiting success stories.
4. Colton: Miss.
No question Beilein is outperforming expectations, but expecting or even hoping for Caris-type results I think is foolish. Also, I appreciate the dates because you'll note only one of these came in May. Add in a survey of players actually available and I haven't heard anything beyond the kid from Dallas. So realistically, I think best case scenario here for a late signee (not including grad transfers) is simply, "able to contribute as a true freshman."
We are desperate enough at wing that anyone that could feasibly contribute next year is probably worth one scholarship on. I would not burn both (not counting grad transfers).
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Not once||
Not once is definitely hyperbolic. What's fair to say is that our offense was completely shut down in a number of games and was pretty mediocre in B10 play: 5th in OffEff and 6th in 3pt %. Not horrible numbers, but when your team is supposedly built around offense, those are not the numbers you'd hope for.
All that said, I could see the offense making a leap next year if Wagner picks up where he left off, Robinson shoots more steadily, and Simpson can contribute in a meaningful way in addition to minor improvements to Walton, Irvin, and Rahk.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||What?||
Godfather Part II??? Typo?
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Haven't seen Catwoman||
but saw something recently on reddit about the basketball scene, which has to be the worst 90 seconds of cinematography ever.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Going Overboard||
Adam Sandler's first movie. You know how some movies are so bad they're funny, well I realized bad slapstick comedy is just the worst. Exactly zero laughs and was dumber than an inbred Ole Miss fan.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Depends||
We shouldn't take anyone that wouldn't be expected to contribute next year, that is, we shouldn't use a four year scholarship out of desperation on a player that won't contribute next year when that scholarship could be saved for '17.
I'm not saying that's the case with Baruti, especially since Larry Brown wants him, but just because we have open spots doesn't mean we should fill them unless they go to grad transfers, who would have no impact down the road.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Has||
Has ferris wheel technology gone too far?