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|5 days 22 hours ago||As usual, I'll be doing a||
As usual, I'll be doing a fair amount of editing. Beyer should be around 80, not 88. The young players will probably be woefully off. Hope this is the yet they expand rosters to 85 from the freshmen killing 70 it's always been. Oh wait, no chance.
|6 days 17 hours ago||Rising senior here||
I was 14 for The Game 06 and I still remember where I was when I found out Bo had passed.
|6 days 17 hours ago||This. Unfortunate, but true.||
This. Unfortunate, but true. What Bacon points out also is this crowd did not grow up on going to games like many of us did.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||There are bad fans and||
There are bad fans and bandwagon fans everywhere. South Florida is not as sports-crazed as the big Northeast cities or the Midwest, but give it a rest man. The Miami Heat is a pretty damn proud and successful 25-year-old franchise and has always had a strong local fanbase. Yes, idiots like Justin Bieber and Miami bimbos attend some games, but it doesn't justify your condescending comments.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Students have been argued ad||
Students have been argued ad nauseum, but GA won't solve the attendence problem. It's not going to cause more people to go. The problem it solves is those that show up being more timely.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I don't even care about GA||
I don't even care about GA anymore, but can you ever just stop complaining about students
|5 weeks 3 days ago||As long as concussions and||
As long as concussions and player safety do not sink the league, the NFL has the brightest past, present, and future in this country. I think the more interesting comparison is with NCAA basketball. As Michigan fans we were blessed with perhaps the most fun team to watch in the country and a run to the championship game. But the rest of the sport is languishing in the Wisconsin plague.
I can't believe how quickly non-NBA fans throw NBA officials under the bus when the state of NCAA officiating isn't much better. The balance of allowing physicality and calling fouls is better in the NBA right now. I know a lot of people prefer the college game for the passion, environments, and unpredicability (including me) but the quality of the NBA playoffs is simply higher these days. As far as the NBA regular season, it needs to be chopped down to 62 games or so, but that's another conversation.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Look, I'll give you Wade as a||
Look, I'll give you Wade as a complainer. He only has 3 FT in the series so his frustrations are obvious, but he really does go after the refs a lot. He's no worse than other big criers in the playoffs like Pierce, Garnett, West, Melo, JR Smith, and of course Noah.
Joakim Noah complains every time he gets the ball in the paint for a foul. The one over-the-back on him in game 3 was a phantom call, but how he expects to get every call on offense and get away with every push/bump/bodycheck on the other end is absolutely ridiculous. Since the Bulls game is physicality, they are going to foul a lot.
LeBron honestly doesn't even get that many calls. He's shooting 9 FT per game in the series and considering how many times he's been intentionally fouled from behind to prevent layups, he's gotten the bump you should expect after averaging 7 FT per game in the regular season.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||It's bizarre to me that||
It's bizarre to me that hockey fans insist on making this point whenever they can.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||As Memphis, San Antonio, and||
As Memphis, San Antonio, and Indiana all look primed to reach the conference finals, you should bite your tongue about big market biases having an impact. Even Miami is a much smaller market than Chicago not that that one fits the small market archetype.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||2000 Citrus Bowl vs. Auburn -||
2000 Citrus Bowl vs. Auburn - to young to remember much
2003 Rose Bowl vs. USC- USC at the height of its powers
2004 Iowa, Rose Bowl vs. Texas - First game at the Big House, Braylon and Breaston fall to Vince Young in Pasadena
2005 Northern Illinois, @Iowa, @Northwestern, Ohio State - first Ohio game and a heartbreaker at that
2006 Vanderbilt, @Notre Dame, Rose Bowl vs. USC - Beatdown of ND was one for the ages
2007 Capital One Bowl vs. Florida - Henne and co. take down Tebow, as a Floridian this was one of my favorite days ever
2008 Wisconsin - picked the perfect game in a horrendous season, Thompson led by a SEA of blockers to the end zone!
2009 Indiana - too close for comfort, but a win nonetheless
2010 all home games and Gator Bowl - tough freshman season with a 4-3 home record, highlight was the exciting but depressing 67-65 3OT Illinois game
2011 all home games - Team 132 was one of my favorite Michigan teams and the 8-0 home record, UTL, and win over Ohio made it a special season
2012 all home games - not the most exciting home slate and many frustrating losses away from the Big House, but 6-0 at home
Bowl record: 2-4
Best memories: 2004 Rose Bowl, 2006 Notre Dame, 2007 Capital One Bowl, 2008 Wisconsin, 2011 ND/UTL, 2011 Ohio
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Look, I am in agreement that||
Look, I am in agreement that it would be nice if the whole stadium were full at kickoff, but the high-horse/arrogant we were better fans than everybody schtick is getting old. This fanbase was segmented enough during the RR disaster. Instead of blaming other sections of the fanbase, everyone should just bring it on Saturdays. The students on this site are not the ones that don't show up, just as the alums on this site aren't the ones who sit on their asses and don't make any noise until the 4th quarter.
/starts to hum cumbaya and imagine everyone holding hands, says fuck it puts the victors on repeat instead
|7 weeks 6 days ago||HAIL had nothing to do with||
HAIL had nothing to do with time. It only required that you check in. Considering I couldn't get service in the Big House, what was I supposed to do? The solution is tracking when a ticket was scanned, and rewarding timely attendence the following year, not expecting students to spend all game trying to get a signal on their iPhones with the possibility of a free shirt or pizza if they go to enough events.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Your theory there sounds like||
Your theory there sounds like it might make sense. Frankly, I don't think much of this will be much of an issue for 3:30 games, which I love and might arrive much earlier to get the good seats for. Noon games, however, might be hard to judge and I still expect a late arriving crowd.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||This was my father's senior||
This was my father's senior year. Back in those days, students headed to the game with a 12-pack in hand. Different era, different times my friend.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||I see two reasons last year||
I see two reasons last year was particularly disappointing in terms of student turnout.
1. The current upperclassmen started school at a Michigan entrenched in the post Appy. State loss Rich Rod era. Michigan home games of 2007-2010 were a different animal than previous iterations with only a 16-14 home record and losses to usual punching bags like App St, Akron, and Purdue as well as ass-whoopings at the hands of Oregon, Illinois!, Penn State, Ohio, Michigan State, and Wisconsin. Elder fans have to remember that many of the current students did not necessarily grow up diehard fans. I believe these years developed a smaller (NOT WORSE) group of Michigan fans from the student population.
2. This was the worst home slate I can recall. UMass, although technically a MAC school now, is the type of matchup that inevitably will lead to no shows. I don't like it, but that's the way it is. Illinois was on fall long weekend, which a ton of students go home for, and it is difficult to sell tickets for this game, leading to a ton of students who end up just eating their tickets. Then there were 3 games against average competition that I would expect an average type turnout for (Air Force, Northwestern, Iowa) and obviously the only big game against State.
I expect attendence to return to form in the Hoke era, not necessarily because of this GA business, but because every class that comes in will be starting school with a football program closer to renewing the classic dominance of Michigan football.
Final note: Don't mention HAIL, there were no incentives and it was impossible to get service to check in, so why would students bother?
|7 weeks 6 days ago||I see what you did there. But||
I see what you did there. But if rows 70+ aren't filled by kickoff, then this GA business solved nothing...
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Seems like a good idea in||
Seems like a good idea in theory, but I think I would kill a man if I showed up before kickoff and was told I couldn't get in as the student section was full.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||The pro-GA crowd has plenty||
The pro-GA crowd has plenty of good points, but I'm getting really tired of this all out assault on students in general. Most of the students are pretty good fans and if you took the student section out completely, going to noon Michigan games against cupcake opponents would have the energy of a golf tournament.
/ducks for cover from outraged alums prepping the flamebaits
|7 weeks 6 days ago||I see Denard in the 4th with||
I see Denard in the 4th with a chance of getting reached for in the 3rd or slipping to the 5th. As for the rest, someone may take a 6th or 7th round flier on Campbell, but I'm not holding my breath for anyone else.
|8 weeks 19 hours ago||This will probably happen||
This will probably happen down the road because of money. Either Brandon raises the student price too high and student demand takes a significant hit, or he realizes that the tickets can be sold to randos for much more and cuts the student section himself.
|8 weeks 19 hours ago||A lot of the folks on here||
A lot of the folks on here get excited about the possibility of a student section that is full at kickoff and don't consider the implications on the actual student gameday experience. From the moment you get in line to the moment the game is over, how do you go to the bathroom and get food without losing your place in line or seat in the stadium? It will be chaos, 20,000 students were always chaos enough. Not to mention you can't reach anybody by phone in Michigan Stadium, finding people in your section was the only way to reunite with someone who loses track of a group. It will be interesting to see how it works out.
|8 weeks 19 hours ago||This would infer there is a||
This would infer there is a major increase in demand this year though. There are still the same number of seats in the student section unless he gets rid of an entire section. Don't expect a major boost in bought tickets and overselling in a year when Brandon increased ticket prices to $295.
|8 weeks 19 hours ago||Student Opinion||
After a night of reflection, I'm mostly just bothered that this happens for my senior year with no apparent benefits to upperclassmen. Disappointing that cargo shorts wearing freshmen can get better seats than me after I was stuck in row 90, 70, and 50, but as long as I can get good seats getting there 30 minutes before I won't be too upset (especially for 3:30 and night games).
|8 weeks 19 hours ago||Waiting in lines is not the||
Waiting in lines is not the determing factor in one's fandom. Making kickoff? Of course. But not waiting in lines.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Don't act like no one values||
Don't act like no one values the tickets. I've cried in Michigan Stadium out of joy and sorrow. I've been a Wolverine my whole life. I know a ton of students who feel the same. You can complain about the few and lament on the dip in attendence, these are not invalid grievances. But DO NOT question that many of the current students feel the same about the school and the program that you and other alumni do.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||If you don't know who Zack||
If you don't know who Zack Novak is, you should not be considered one of the better Michigan basketball fans.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Who knows, you could be||
Who knows, you could be right. This is all speculation as of right now. If I had to guess. I'd say it's not so bad to get decent seats if you make it to the line by 30 minutes before kickoff, but the student section will be just as spotty/empty at the top. Those that assume the same folks who sometimes blew off some games in the past will be more likely to make it to their seats now that they know they'll be stuck at the top are delusional.
Problems solved: Half empty student section prior to kickoff
Problems unsolved: Attendence problem
Consequences (good, bad, and neutral): Rewards earlygoers, no longer rewards seniors (annoying now, will just become a part of the culture if it sticks), creates a significant and likely chaotic line of students waiting outside Michigan Stadium, long-term shift in gameday atmosphere
|8 weeks 1 day ago||I spent enough time waiting||
I spent enough time waiting in Maize Rage lines to know that just because people have the free time to show up early, it doesn't mean they are the best fans. Seriously, I had several students ask me who/what my "Chicks Dig Scars" shirt meant.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Literally the only pro-GA||
Literally the only pro-GA argument that makes sense and makes me feel a little better about things as a rising senior. Point taken, sir.