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|23 hours 26 min ago||I'm not saying he sucks,||
I'm not saying he sucks, though. I'm saying I have a completely different list based on how effective a guy would be in my offense, and on all the video I watched Cobb was a downhill bulldozer who got his first five yards courtesy of Epping more than his own acceleration.
That zero-to-sixty is gold to a zone running offense. By the time I got to Clement all of those guys except James and Elliot were off the board. And to me Clement looked like an exact replica of Tevin Coleman.
|23 hours 32 min ago||The "political reasons" thing||
The "political reasons" thing is an incorrect assumption. Most of what I knew from Dave Brandon before was I knew someone who worked closely with Domino's corporate while he was there, and was mostly related to how he dealt with co-workers and employees--not so much about people who buy pizzas. However the spot we started from was his handling of Stretchgate, which was exemplary. You're not speaking to somebody predisposed to hate DB; you're speaking to an apostate. We were his biggest supporters, until the overwhelming facts caused a slow but definitely stark conversion.
It's not just a rich/poor thing. The old guard who are allowed close to Brandon were the first to report smoke, which nobody believed for a year until it started accumulating.
So, no, it's not politics or predisposition powering the vitriol. But we can keep checking these boxes off until you believe me that Dave Brandon being an awful AD is the reason people keep saying he's an awful AD.
|1 day 21 hours ago||I'll ask my brother's||
I'll ask my brother's roommate Post if it was him. I don't know how many six-foot nine frat dudes who throw beer cans of Michigan fans there would be. It's probably Post.
|2 days 1 hour ago||10 miles from Wrigley to a||
10 miles from Wrigley to a huge baseball fan is worth mentioning.
|3 days 23 hours ago||Riiight. That. Damn you,||
Damn you, statistically best QB in the conference who left because he didn't want to split time with the statistically second best QB in the conference I still have!
Don't underrate Jones; he's the Junior Hemingway of that offense; the other guys are the short-range dink-n-dunk targets. And don't underestimated the combo of Smith's downfield threat and Sudfeld's downfield accuracy, especially when that makes space for Venric Mark and Corey Clement to operate. I leapt at what I thought was the best space athlete in the conference, and because of that Mark's been unfairly downgraded when before his injury he was better than Shane Wynn and more marketable than Josh Ferguson and Dontre Wilson. In retrospect I could have had both Wisconsin RBs and gotten, if not Mark or Wynn, then one of those other guys later. Or Trae Waynes. I'm somewhat less horrified at my one bad pick now that dudes like Caputo and Rush and Murray and Longa have fallen to me so late.
I totally agree this offense needs some pieces: a route-ninja slot to complement Jones, and an unguardable tight end target, and most of all a new Roberson, but where can you find a passer as efficient as Devin Gardner with the legs of Braxton Miller and the zone-read proficiency (a vastly underrated skill) of Roberson? As you've said, Braxton Miller and Devin Gardner came off the board before I even got my first pick.
Then again if I could find such things, well, with that offensive line...
|4 days 1 hour ago||It's like the AP poll. I keep||
It's like the AP poll. I keep winning, and they keep underrating me because the quarterback isn't a 5-star.
Results are on the field!
The team the team the team!
Games are won in the trenches!
A bird in hand is worth two fish in a barrel!
My country tis of thee, sweet land of liberty...
|6 days 23 hours ago||In all fairness she was||
In all fairness she was referring to this depressing photo taken at the spring game:
|1 week 2 hours ago||Fine, I'll play. He||
Fine, I'll play.
He donated more than 4 Million dollars to build Mott Children's hospital, and contributed to the Michigan Stadium renovation fund before he even took the office
Being rich means you give money to charity instead of paying it as taxes. Brandon was indeed a HUGE Michigan donor, and that indeed has colored his perspective of his job at Michigan. Building Mott = good thing. Contributing to Bill Martin's Michigan Stadium upgrade, eh, Brandon was one of the people who stood most to gain from those upgrades. I don't think this makes him an especially wonderful guy that he did it. It doesn't make him a worse guy either.
He took a 3 Million Dollar pay cut
From a job he was assigned by Bain and where he was always a bad fit for a corporate culture that to be fair would have been a bad fit for most people. He wasn't long for that job though. Remember they had to change the entire pizza right after he left. His tenure as Domino's CEO, if it was proof of anything, it was that CEOs get paid WAY too much money to be spectacularly mediocre at their jobs, and that his short-term policies of cheapening the food while raising prices and Wow factors were not sustainable for that company, and certainly not a good model for Michigan.
to take over an athletic department that was hemorhaging credibility like a stuck pig. He was tasked with cleaning up his predecessor's disastrous 3,5,7 win football hire and a basketball team that after finally breaking into the tournament seemed to be sinking back into mediocrity at 15-17.
I think you're giving him credit for things he didn't really do either well or anything for. Beilein's team got better than 15-17 because he found 3-stars who were 1st round NBA draft picks. Brandong didn't get Trey Burke to come here. And while Bill Martin had his faults exposed dramatically in the coaching search, who in the world WOULDN'T have hired Rich Rodriguez in 2008? Dave Brandon's biggest role was to waste months of recruiting time when he meant to fire RR, and then do a lot of private jetting before hiring a candidate they could have had at any time.
Brandon provided strong leadership and a stronger backhand through one of the darker(albeit ridiculous) chapters in Michigan football history.
Absolutely. He handled stretchgate magnificenty. Not perfectly but I don't want to mar the statement or undermine what an excellent and honest job he did there when 99% of ADs in college football would have just told the NCAA to go screw, which would have still worked with the hapless NCAA but wouldn't have been worthy of Michigan. I don't think Bo could have handled it half as well. Or Canham. Or Duderstadt. Etc. When we do finally send Brandon packing, we should shake his hand for this at least.
He hired a coach who immediately breathed life into a program on the ropes. That coach took a 5 win/yr team to an 11-2 record and a BCS bowl win.
New coaches tend to do that. That season was flimsy at the time and appears flimsier in retrospect.
He hired Beilein's assistants.
Beilein did. Trust me on this; Dave Brandon did nothing but approve their salaries.
He hired Greg Mattison
Mattison said straight-out that he came for Hoke. Brandon deserves credit for paying him.
You've gotta give credit for Al Borges too then. Anyway Nussmeier's hire is another one of those gray areas where the PR stunt that went with it backfired, and now it's wait-n-see if he works out. He's not a slam-dunk; he wasn't going to last under Saban anyway (for reasons that we might see as positives) and a lot of the causes for optimism with Doug relate to things Brandon wasn't looking at.
He oversaw the rebuilding of Crisler Arena
Bill Martin's plans. Brandon added the fountain and some other amenities but Bill Martin deserves the lion's share of the credit for the Crisler renovation plan.
I think it is a fair assumption that Brandon has done more for Michigan athletics and the world at large than 99% of us on the board, a fact that can get lost in petty vendettas and very real differences of opinion.
Because he's been put in a position to do so by circumstances that weren't entirely his own doing. Dave operates under the assumption that he deserves his fortune, but in many ways he's a poster child for extremely lucky guys who are really pretty mediocre and cannot possibly admit it to themselves.
In this man's opinion, Brandon has made very real sacrifices and deserves a great deal more respect than he gets on this board.
You are entitled to your opinion. My opinion is that his "sacrifices" were self-serving, and that his administration of Michigan on the whole has courted the vitriol he gets from the fanbase.
|1 week 2 hours ago||I'll bet you 100,000||
I'll bet you 100,000 MGoPoints that Bernstein and Ilitch did it to capitalize politically on Michigan fans' distaste for the fireworks. Such things never come this far to get voted down by the regents, and those quips are too good and too targeted at the fanbase to be off-the-cuff responses.
We just witnessed a little play by two astute politicians, at the expense of another politician. This is politicians playing their games; at least this game stopped the fireworks.
|1 week 2 hours ago||Wow that wasn't staged at all||
Wow that wasn't staged at all guys.
|1 week 4 hours ago||I think everyone uses||
I think everyone uses themselves as a gauge of what's a "normal" level of wealth. People with the same annual household income as Brian can probably afford tickets every year though it means doing just one big vacation in addition to it. People with average income for this state make a lot less than that. Mortgages and car payments and food don't scale with earning power, meaning the poorer you are the bigger a difference a few thousand dollars will make.
I think it WOULD be a great event if they offered it to the public, but it's a shallow offering if they just keep it to season ticket holders. If I have a neighborhood cider pressing because everyone has apple trees in our used-to-be-an-orchard streets, and send everyone home with homemade apple cider and donuts, that's an awesome event. If I limit it only to people on the block who use my lawn guys, it's a conspicuous event that's nice for those who can attend but so mean to those who aren't invited that on the whole it's better for the neighborhood if it never happened.
With all things offensive, the party who gets to decide if it's offensive is the offended party, not the offender or an unaffiliated party. People are offended, therefore it is offensive. I think if the standard for a program of this size is to have it open to the public, then there's very good cause to wonder why Michigan went off the standard. I'm looking for other comparables. Virginia has theirs three times a year and it's public; so far Minnesota's the largest school other than Michigan to put a tag on it, and from what I can tell you could donate $5 at the door and get in, or not donate.
It's conspicuous, and there's no reason to disclude the public unless you're trying to send a message that ESPECIALLY appreciate a certain level of backer. Except Michigan has shown a bazillion times already how much they appreciate the people who give them large sums of money; they've done the worst job of any like program convincing the fans who can't speak so loudly with their limited wallets right now that they're appreciated too. You shouldn't act like their complaints are invalid, or brush them off as some unbased bias against Dave Brandon. The reason this half of the fanbase doesn't give Dave Brandon the benefit of the doubt is that he's been an utter asshole to them on so many occasions now that they expect it.
|1 week 5 hours ago||I look forward so much to Ron||
I look forward so much to Ron Utah's comments on these. Every time he's like "I wonder who's going to draft _____" and it's a guy I've drafted.
So you're saying I need a playmaker and a quarterback on par with Hackeberg & Cook (nevermind that my quaterback was statistically more effective than either of them)? Also keep in mind that Brian ends these after his first pick of the next round, and I have a compensatory pick after his last, so I have two picks in hand.
Just you wait. I grabbed skill position guys I thought wouldn't be on the board later for things that I needed, but I'm not done adding weapons.
I wish BiSB hadn't noticed Coleman. But I suggested Epping to him (Wisconsin blogs complain that they missed out on him) because I couldn't use him. As a center-returning-to-guard from the Big Ten's slowest-paced man-blocking offense, he just didn't fit what I'm trying to do. He's not Molk; he doesn't get reach blocks or go off the page. He's a little bowling ball of hate who explodes downfield and gave Minnesota a rushing attack that was better than decent. I was scouting Cobb as a plowhorse RB and realized it's Epping who gets him (and his QB) most of those manly yards. If I was running a MANBALL offense he'd be the first center I'd take in the league.
But I built my offense knowing with the 4th pick I wasn't going to get one of the two premier dual-threat guys in the league, and I knew with so few playmakers (there's between two and zero elite wide receivers in this league) trying to build a pro style offense around Cook or Hackenberg was going to end up looking like Ace's disjointed crap offense. So I Moneyball'd instead, recreating the production of Garder/Miller by building a perfect offensive line to run a ludicrous speed spread that threatens all parts of the field, and snagged two of the three safeties in the league with the skills to keep up.
|1 week 1 day ago||He's Not Just a Space Eater!||
He's Not Just a Space Eater! (drink). Guy played lots of 3-tech and sacked Braxton Miller twice.
|1 week 1 day ago||HTTV copies: The system is||
The system is Larry is emailing me the list of emails of people who did the $5 deal in chunks, and then I'm emailing those people when I can. The last chunk came at 6 pm last night and I sent those at 9:30 am this morning. So if you did the deal after 6 last night your book is coming.
|1 week 1 day ago||Add loss of soccer, at least||
Add loss of soccer, at least for now.
I totally hear you on these, though keep in mind they're retaining a lot of DS people and according to Larry adding a lot of the things that were great about DS to DK. I'm personally after them to get the pick 'ems back.
It wasn't a buyout or corporate takeover. Draft Kings is the far larger, and the Draftstreet people were for this because they were reaching the limits of their market saturation. Unlike Michigan, they ARE a business and can't be faulted for taking an opportunity to control such a larger share of their market, and maybe inject their particular coolness into it. Think of it like Rivals buying 247--there are things that 247 does that are SO MUCH BETTER than what Rivals does and that's how they carved out a large niche in the recruiting space that only a giant like ESPN has been enter since 2002. If they bought 'em to get rid of 'em it would indeed be a sad day, but if they added crystal balls and better bloggers and boards, and the composite scores, and could afford to keep most of the scouting staff, well, that would be a good recruiting site.
Maybe that's a bad analogy. Like I said, it's not all bad here, though there are valid downsides.
|1 week 1 day ago||Yes: So you think it's a||
Are there people who grab anything by [the oppositione party] and demonize it any way possible?
Should we pay attention to these people other than pointing from time to time that they just poison the discussion
In Michigan and in politics you should pretend those people don't exist. Especially on internet discussion boards, the tendency is to use them as the straw man for all opposition. Colter/Kos and the people who repeat what they say are useless people with invalid ideas. The WORST thing you could do is act like they represent the other side, because they don't. They represent the 33% of humanity who are fucking useless to a debate because they can't imagine any validity to someone who disagrees with them. We ignore Drew Sharp and Mike Valenti for this reason. Someone's gotta serve the dumbfucks. You shouldn't ever.
But you can't tell what's in anyone's heart. So treat everyone, even the dumbfucks, as if they aren't. Approach every debate with it stipulated that the person you're debating is coming from an earnest and well thought out position of his/her own, and only debate the best points, not the crappy ones.
So how to approach this thread:
Act like nobody's just anti-all-things-DB because that position is facially ignorant. Argue the points (It's not hallowed ground; it has a tractor buried in it and Seth threw up on it once. It is gimmicky but it's not gimmicky in place of the band on a football Saturday so who does it harm?) not where theyr'e coming from.
One aspect of it
My point is it's a crucial aspect of it that undoes the good with too much senseless bad. This movie night came right on the heels of Wisconsin's successful feel-good thing, and in copying it somebody said "but let's just limit it to the season ticket holders." Right now Michigan has a HUGE FUCKING PROBLEM with the part of its fanbase who've been priced out of being season ticket holders. It's going to piss them off to be excluded when there's a clear precedent that they shouldn't be. And the damage that will do is far greater than the pleasantness for season ticket holders.
From your points it seems the big thing I need to convince you of is that the PR problem with "REAL Michigan fans" (read: "poorer" Michigan fans) is a major problem. I think there's strong evidence, especially this year, that Michigan's support with a large segment of its fanbase has been undermined by the mercenary practices of the athletic department, and that this is ultimately bad for the school. We're not talking about equivalent 4-person families, one who chooses to spend $6 grand on season tickets and another who chooses to take the family to Europe for two weeks. The non-season-ticket holders are disproportionately young, and that makes them an important demographic to the future. They're also the group who'd most be interested in the novelty of a movie in the stadium (a greater number of bluehairs probably won't think it's worth the discomfort of sitting on a bench outdoors for that long). The students, the recent alumni, the working class non-alumni: these are important demographics to the support of a college football program, and they've been consistently shut out recently.
My interest in Michigan running smoothly is professional (I make my living from there being lots of Michigan fans) and personal (I am a HUGE Michigan fan). The latter is a shared interest with every Michigan fan. We don't want to sit in a half-empty stadium when the current students and young alums are the bluehairs. We all get a little upset when we see more Spartan gear in a store than the Michigan stuff. And we want our kids to get into this.
Think how awesome it would be for a young dad who was heartbroken when he couldn't renew his season tickets this year given the extravagent cost to see Appalachian State et al., but could still take his kids inside the stadium to watch a movie for free one day. Think of what happens a few years later when that family's deciding whether their new circumstances can afford them a Europe trip or a Michigan football game, and in the intervening years the kids did or didn't have this memory of the Big House.
It's a wasted opportunity. It's not a big deal by any stretch, but it's another pinprick in a very sore spot, and another good reason that Dave Brandon should be removed as far and fast as possible from this thing we love.
|1 week 1 day ago||"Chose to support the||
"Chose to support the program" is utter and complete bullshit, and goes to the heart of the widespread hatred among Michigan fans for Dave Brandon.
There are thousands and thousands of Michigan fans who would support the program if they had the means. What's it cost for a pair of season tickets in a middle-ish section these days? $3,000? $4,000? That's 10% of the average income of a family in this state. You can be a highly intelligent, hightly motivated, college-educated, responsible, non-drug-doing person and you're still more likely to not be able to afford those prices than otherwise.
I have no glee, veiled or otherwise, at ticket sales slumping. I predicted them, and the prediction came true; you shouldn't confuse that for glee. I also predict the offensive line is going to be kinda bad this year; if it would not be do you have ANY doubt that I'd be so so so happy to be wrong about that?
Michigan isn't Disney. For one it's a non-profit. For two the whole point of college football is you're trading competitive quality and seat comfort etc. for a thing that's affordable enough to be a hardfast tradition. For three it's not a corporation but a public institution. The college football team of a major state university is the front porch of that state's entire educational system. Michigan is a public trust of the people of the State of Michigan, not an entertainment conglomerate. Michigan doesn't belong to Dave Brandon; it belongs to US.
So let me state my position a litle clearer: offering a movie night is cool, and anyone complaining that they scheduled it for reasons of hallowed ground or Superbowlization should get over themselves; it's a friggin movie on a large screen. I vote for The Big Chill.
But the standard for these, as set by a fellow Big Ten program, is to make it public. Michigan's PR disaster right now is with the public. The people Michigan has been screwing over the most are the segment of die-hard Michigan fans who bought season tickets for years or would buy season tickets for years if they were in any way reasonable or feasible while, you know, still paying off college loans or saving so your daughter won't have to.
It would be a strongly positive gesture at a relatively tiny cost to invite every Michigan fan to a free movie night; instead it's a paltry gesture to people who've been recently fleeced and chose/were able to just suck it up. And when you put it in context of all the things that Dave Brandon has done while in control of this public trust to show he doesn't believe in anything public, it ends up pissing off the large number of people he's already pissed off all the way in return for small consolation to a small number of people he's pissed off somewhat less. It makes Michigan less likeable, less desirable to the people who will support it in the future, and that's how a little fucking movie night can become yet another thing that someone with an earnest, financial, and personal stake in Michigan finds appalling.
|1 week 1 day ago||Dave you asshole you couldn't||
Dave you asshole you couldn't make it public like Wisconsin. When you put it behind a paywall it just makes the people on the other side more resentful. The folks who'd get the most out of it are locked out. Ultimately a few season ticket holders can enjoy it but it's the non season ticket holders who've been most angry w this AD.
I think a movie in the Big House would be cool and since it's not on top of anything else it can't hurt the experience of games. It's bad PR out of a good idea though because they couldn't resist the temptation to keep it closed from anyone who hasn't already paid $2,000 this year.
|1 week 1 day ago||Here's Why||
The cynicism is because Wisconsin and who knows what other schools just did this same thing except open to the public and free. This AD has built a well-deserved reputation for hoarding all things about the program, from access to the players to access to the history to access to the building. They're deaf to anyone who's not a paying customer and they ceaselessly drive up the cost of being such beyond reason.
To offer season ticket holders an extra day of access and not anybody else when the standard is to make it public is another example of Brandon's mercenary approach and further confirmation that he sees nothing public about Michigan athletics and nothing worthwhile in the many former season ticket holders and other fans who've been unable to justify the exorbitant price tags and PSLs. It's a small boon to give the people who already feel fleeced and another slap in the face to the fans who used to be able to walk on the field and throw a football around on a summer afternoon, and now just get locked out for another thing.
Because everything Dave Brandon does is a reminder that you mean nothing to him except the dollars you can bring to him, and he gets to hold Michigan hostage from you unless you pony up.
|1 week 2 days ago||Thanks and that's AWESOME||
Thanks and that's AWESOME news!
|1 week 2 days ago||I emailed larry for you.||
I emailed larry for you.
|1 week 2 days ago||okay. Updated.||
okay. Updated. Link: http://mgoblog.com/sites/mgoblog.com/files/currently-current.jpg
|1 week 3 days ago||I disagree with the||
I disagree with the characterization of the portrayal, though I grant you that the writer not the reader is ALWAYS at fault for the readers' interpretation.
If my intent means anything, I thought I was contrasting the TV coverage of it like a warzone (zoomed out with a reporter in a box in a corner emphasizing the fear) and my mom and her sisters' interpretation of it as such, while showing my cousin was right there noting that the Israelis are laughing at the tourists running off the beach when they hear sirens, and her treatment of the Skype call as an opportunity to show off her new apartment's hardwood floors.
Then I showed which portrayal I agreed with by talking about how the war coverage was treated on the news like a sports event. The hidden message in all of that was the really important thing--the great meaning of life within this little vignette--was an adult daughter and her mother talking to each other about her new apartment.
|1 week 3 days ago||My dad loved babies in||
My dad loved babies in velour. He bought two velour sleepsuits for my daughter but he only got to hold her in one of them one time, since by the time she grew into the first it was already summer.
This velour thing was one of the things that set me off this past week. Every night I put her pajamas on and the sleepsuit is sitting in the drawer. I keep praying for a cold night to come before she grows out of it.
|1 week 3 days ago||See, I took this question as||
See, I took this question as a game that you just thoroughly enjoyed. The Game '97 I spent terrified that Ohio State would climb back in and take this beautiful thing from us. Michigan had just screwed OSU out of awesome seasons in '95 and '96, and we all felt the Big Ten was out to get us.
Braylonfest I remember finding annoying because I wasn't yet used to 3:30 starts, and because MSU was spread-'n-shredding us to death until Stanton got hurt. Then they carted the lights in and they were shining right in my eyes. The end happened so quickly it was more surreal than enjoyable for me. I walked out being like "did I really just see that?" And still terrified of zone reads. Also it was my first year not living in Ann Arbor so I didn't have my gameday down or anything.
The '98 PSU game I just enjoyed from start to finish. The student section back then was like they'd triple-cloned everyone at Yost, gave them liquor, and crammed them into a phonebooth. You could still carry in plastic bottles then so people filled their Cokes with 75% rum. During commercial breaks there were always people hiding between the rows passing a joint. And Michigan just owned them all day in the most "we are the defending national champs you not" way possible. It was so...college.
Comebacks are awesome but for 90% of those games you wanna sick up.
Last year's Game rates up there for me too despite the outcome. I was sitting with BiSD, which if you've followed that guy on Twitter you know he's the best for spur of the moment quips in-game. And that game was just awesome to behold--except when Michigan got hosed on two crucial calls and I wanted to stab things.
|2 weeks 20 hours ago||The roll doesn't end. I had||
The roll doesn't end. I had to take a QB because the rules, but keep in mind that these guys all still have to pick guys who will be on the field when all these other players are.
So at the end of the day if one guy has Indiana's offense if Indiana got first dibs on their entire offensive line from anyone in the conference, and zero holes, and everyone else has at least two holes...
Still. Damn you Roberson.
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Live with the fact that you can't change everything, and lend your voice when someone tries to fix something. The world gets better by inches, and most people are just doing what they think they're supposed to, not trying to damage people. Cut cable if you think you can do it. Vote, I guess, but this is one of those rare both parties are equally corrupted sorts of things.