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- They are able to do this because that was the latest decision in the O'Bannon case. The players didn't just one day decide to do this; they were given a legal precedent by a landmark decision.
- Their employer is Northwestern, not the NCAA, not the Big Ten.
- The O'Bannon case didn't just say they could unionize but that the union could bargain for sale of their likenesses, e.g., with EA Sports to put Northwestern's players in their college football game.
- The NCAA hasn't budged or shown any willingness to budge on whether getting paid, e.g. by EA for their likenesses, constitutes a violation.
- They don't have any liquid payment, so I doubt they're going to have union fees at least to start. Best guess is they'll have members who've gone on to law degrees serve pro bono, and get financing through donations of pro players.
|4 hours 1 min ago||Wish him luck except one Saturday per year||
On good authority he's going to MSU and it's not worth asking again.
|6 hours 16 min ago||It appears it's only grabbing||
It appears it's only grabbing the last month or so. Remember that "State" isn't just MSU--every time someone says Iowa State or Penn State or Boise State or Ohio State, etc. it will register.
|1 day 9 hours ago||Dani Wohl In 2005 Michigan||
In 2005 Michigan Guard-Hating God wiped out every PG on the roster, including the orthodox Jewish walk-on, except he just played with the torn ligament in his elbow.
Also my wife and I are friends with him and his wife but that's beside the point.
|1 week 3 hours ago||And yet an entire industry of||
And yet an entire industry of guys who never went to journalism school sprang up in a matter of a few years simply by doing just that. If the market exists...
|1 week 5 hours ago||guessing he was going with||
guessing he was going with "effin"
|1 week 5 hours ago||Oh dear||
If you wonderin why itz Sparties, of all roaches, bustin most of tha scuttling, itz cuz they media is 30% trolls theyselves, 60% too biased ta consider fightin tha trolls, n' tha remainder aren't tryin all dat hard. Y'all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! I removed, at last count 13, fight-back threadz dis n' last week, cuz there be a not a god damn thang ta be gained by dissin tha journalistic integritizzle of Mike Valenti or Graham Couch or Eric Thomas, etc. Therez a cold-ass lil certain type of thug you just remove from tha message board; if some muthafuckaz given his ass a funky-ass broadshizzle or a highly trafficked url or a 15,000-watt microphone instead, roll yo' eyes n' ignore dat shit.
|1 week 1 day ago||How the hell are we going to||
How the hell are we going to get TUF BORLAND to not commit to Wisconsin. SEND ALL THE FLANNEL!
|1 week 2 days ago||That was intended non-irony.||
That was intended non-irony. I figured the corrollary was obvious
|1 week 2 days ago||I'm not a baller but I play||
I'm not a baller but I play one on the internet.
|1 week 2 days ago||Translation: LT: uh....anyone||
LT: uh....anyone wanna try tackle while Magnusson and LTT are hurt?
LG: The true freshman we were playing there last year.
C: At the moment we're not yet ready to move the best returning player of the unit.
RG: We're going to keep putting him here until he turns into Steve Hutchinson, because that is about the only way we're going to get a Steve Hutchinson out of him.
RT: At least "he's a right tackle and nothing else" is a plausible response to why he didn't play when the interior was a tire fire.
|1 week 3 days ago||A cornerback is far less||
A cornerback is far less likely to have help. My guess is there shouldn't be passes frequently going into linebacker areas.
|1 week 3 days ago||He asked about using those||
He asked about using those guys, but we agreed it's probably not a good idea to be calling kids "Sad Josh" while they're waiting on an offer.
I suggested they be:
0: Not interested
1: Just looking
2: Come back to me
3: Send me your catalog
4: Put this on hold for me
5: Does it come in blue?
|1 week 4 days ago||OT - Bank of Ann Arbor twists the knife||
Please refrain from giving the finger to my advertisers for bringing up Kordell Stewart.
|1 week 6 days ago||Verily, your attempt at a||
Verily, your attempt at a higher vernacular proved flaxen.
|2 weeks 3 hours ago||Heh. once again we agree but||
Heh. once again we agree but were talking about different things.
I figured he was asking why Michigan's SAM won't be a Denicos Allen thing, and I assumed he meant the Denicos Allen thing we saw in 2011-'12 who was blazing into the backfield with regularity. The wide even front and the over front are not that different considering how MSU used it, and their defense functions on the same principles in either look.
|2 weeks 3 hours ago||Fact is every team is||
Fact is every team is multiple but yeah MSU went Over last year. Here's the front breakdown from the UFR database:
When Allen was a wreaker of all things it was from the Even front. Last year his role changed to something much like the WILL in Michigan's defense.
|2 weeks 3 hours ago||MSU typically plays with a||
MSU typically plays with a truly even front, and then they spread the DEs wider, daring you to run up the middle where Bullough would eat you for breakfast, unless they're double-A blitzing and he eats you for dinner last night. They can get away with that because their DTs can both hold up to doubles and even two-gap.
TE OT OG OC OG OT
SAM DE DT DT WDE
TE OT OG OC OG OT
SAM 5T NT 3T WDE
Their SAM is a much more free wreaker of havoc than Michigan's, but he's also a more true outside linebacker whereas Michigan's SAM in a 4-3 under has some defensive end to him. The difference is made up for in the middle: Michigan wants its NT to clog up the middle and keep the LBs free to flow to gaps that form; MSU makes their MLB responsible for the A gaps.
If you remember Gholston getting free sacks all the time, it was because the DT, Jerel Worthy, would jump the snap and preve3nt the OG from getting anywhere. The OT would take Allen and that would leave Gholston (the SDE) free.
I wouldn't say one is superior to the other, but I also wouldn't say Ross's role would be anthing like Denicos Allen's was. If M was going to try to deploy an Allen-like object they'd probably try Ojemudia there. Or Allen Gant. Or...I don't know--Michigan doesn't have a lot of guys on the roster like that. Shantee Orr is the 1-to-1 comparison from history.
Ross at SAM is a solidity move, not an explosive one. He'll have to take on blocks and reroute, and he'll have to play zones, but he'll be also be free to read and attack from a position to blow the play up when he reads faster than the offense can pull a guy. Also when offenses motion the strength to the opposite side of the formation you have a guy who's been a WILL before already there.
|2 weeks 4 hours ago||Gant was always heading down||
Gant was always heading down the linebackery-safety role, by "always" i mean after his senior year when it was clear he was still gaining size but his speed was never going to be what you want in a pass-sound defensive backfield (and he isn't a born Kovacs who can make up for it by reading and reacting faster).
There isn't a very big leap you have to make, since Hoke said he and the staff met after the Ohio State game to discuss what happened to their defense and how they can make sure that doesn't happen to them again. Offering Wangler may be part of that. Moving Jake Ryan is something they've mulled before.
As we saw in 2010 when Cam Gordon and Carvin Johnson and Thomas Gordon all played Spur relatively effectively as freshmen, it's not a very hard position to pick up. Your zones are typically the flats with plenty of help over your head, your reaction to the run game is super aggressive, and your blitz route is into a tackle/tight end/back whom you should be able to beat one-on-one with either size or quickness.
Ross is the most disappointing part of all of this. He showed that quick-react instinct in 2012 that I thought when they add some pounds to him he'd be very effictive WILL. Bolden was the guy getting picked on over the top, and Morgan was second in that regard.
If they had more safety depth instead of corner depth and all things were equal I'd want Dymonte Thomas at SAM. Alas that isn't going to be in the cards with this team.
|2 weeks 8 hours ago||According to Brian: "ass butt||
According to Brian: "ass butt that [Hemingway] butt ass."
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Nothing's stopping the||
Nothing's stopping the players from doing any of those things now. You don't need a union to strike, or to ask for stuff.
I think you're expecting every union to function the same way the UAW functions and thus missing all of the important details.
So this is really just another baby step. The things you're suggesting are not just unrealistic, but so far down the road that it's useless to bring them up.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Okay. I was afraid I'd||
Okay. I was afraid I'd accidentally referenced a quote from To Kill a Mockingbird. That's the sort of mistake you get called out on pretty hard on a Michigan blog.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Hart.||
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Historically, a guy who is||
Historically, a guy who is leaning heavily toward another place who visits Alabama is essentially a an Alabama lead. Michigan's been burned twice this way and we got off light.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Not sure if tasteless joke or||
Not sure if tasteless joke or if there's a reference I didn't get/intend.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Actually the opposite. Early||
Actually the opposite. Early in the season they were calling hand checks more and this was helping Michigan, but they were also not calling charges anymore and since we were rolling mostly with charge magnet Jordan Morgan that was bad.
Now they're not calling them anymore, and that has shifted the benefit back to the teams that hand check a ton, e.g. Wisconsin.
Blaming officials is a cheap thing to do in college basketball because the officiating is always bad, but it would be an outright lie to pretend the way Wisconsin games are officiated isn't an outrage.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah I was wondering about||
Yeah I was wondering about that. First you're like "is the diaper stuff gonna be included" and I was like "yeah I hadn't thought to but okay I will" and then I got a response that was completely devoid of diaper.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Actually last time we had a||
Actually last time we had a blog-wide pity party I predicted both Kevin Newsome and Shavodrick Beaver would decommit/die/get dropped out of an airplane in a canoe.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Those are essentially Brian||
Those are essentially Brian (and only brian --it breaks it when the rest of us try) posting threads.
There isn't much use to up-voting or downvoting the writers on this site, especially Brian, since we're judged on a different standard.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Not sure if auto-generated.||
Not sure if auto-generated.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Here's how that thread was||
Here's how that thread was always going to go:
Guy 1: Woohoo!
Guy 2: Amazing his teammates were behind him!
Guy 3: What a landmark! I'm officially a Mizzou fan
Guy 4: I don't know what you are all so happy about. I have sex with [animal, vegetable or mineral]. Throw me a parade!
Guy 2: What an asshole Guy 4 is.
You know what was the least likely thing to happen in that thread? Guy 4 confronting the overwhelming objection to his comments, realizing the error of his thiking, and changing his viewpoint to the consensus. You know what was the second-least likely thing to happen in that thread? A reasonable discussion that provides a framework for further discussion on the topic.
Is it possible we missed out on a great back and forth about how a college locker functions, or some insight from someone closer to the situation that would help us to see it in a clearer light, etc. etc. etc.? Yeah sure. I'm willing to sacrifice that chance just to avoid the inevitable discussion on what the first amendment really means.