it's a major award
|13 hours 27 min ago||I got this....||
I got this....
|16 hours 34 min ago||Yes. The perception of the||
Yes. The perception of the Big 10 as being a bad conference will improve when Michigan and Penn State right their respective ships and OSU continuing to be OSU. Once that happens, you'll won't see near as much resistance from national pundits to including the Big 10 Champion into the playoff. It will be a struggle for the next few seasons, but 15 years from now, things will be better.
|16 hours 41 min ago||That's probably not the only||
That's probably not the only weekend either. There's always a couple of weekends during the winter when the hoeme schedules for basketball and hockey dovetail nicely together. Just put both schedules next to each other from MGoBlue and compare dates.
|1 day 7 hours ago||Yep||
Right off the top of my head, Saturday, November 15th.
Men's Hoops play Hillsdale College at 2:00 PM and Men's Hockey plays American International at 7:35 PM. If you want to make a weekend of it, Hockey has play Amer. Int. on Friday night as well.
Not the sexiest of games, but I'm sure they're not sold out either.
|1 day 7 hours ago||Sarcasm wasn't intended.||
Sarcasm wasn't intended. Michigan historically hasn't played MSU on Senior Night. Usually has been a lesser opponent. I'm guessing the combination of biggest rivalry game and Senior Night has seen these tickets gobbled up.
|1 day 8 hours ago||It's crazy how we stripped||
It's crazy how we stripped down Crisler to it's foundation and rebuilt it and we love it. We pretty much do the same thing to Yost and yet we're ambivalent.
I walk up to my seats in the Section 13 and I miss the wood creaking beneath my feet. Now, the south bleachers were probably completely unsafe because of this fact and needed to be replaced with the aluminum ones, but I lament it every game now when I head up to my seats.
Sometimes, I just think I'm too fickle.
|1 day 8 hours ago||Exactly||
Rodriguez proved that any coach, no matter how talented, will struggle to succeed at a program that does not fully support him. There's a lesson to be learned there, and we should fucking get smart and learn it as we prepare to embark on another coaching search.
|1 day 8 hours ago||Generally true for lower||
Generally true for lower profile games. However, Stubhub prices will be over face for the higher profile games like against Minnesota, MSU, and Wisconsin though. You always have the street side option though.
|1 day 8 hours ago||To hockey? Because they're||
To hockey? Because they're playing Michigan State and the game is sold out already?
|1 day 8 hours ago||Yeah, I mean it seems petty||
Yeah, I mean it seems petty to be too critical because the quality of the renovation was first rate, but they scrubed away too much of the old barn feel to the place.
|1 day 11 hours ago||Oh Man...||
Bottle Rocket, two thumbs up. Solid pick.
|1 day 17 hours ago||Hard to Pick Just One....||
Comedy - Diner, Joe Versus the Volcano
Drama - A Bronx Tale, Wild at Heart
Western - Open Range
Action - V for Vendetta
Science Fiction - Dune
|1 day 17 hours ago||Given the rate at which this||
Given the rate at which this class is shrinking, I'm going to go with "whoever is left".
|1 day 17 hours ago||I'm Not Certain||
But I think if you change your user name, your point count returns to zero, but your join date remains whatever it was when you originally signed up.
That doesn't mean that your criteria for sniffing out trolls is wrong though....
|2 days 7 hours ago||Please...||
Please! You guys think that Michigan's stealth plane is actually capable of being photographed? Michigan's stealth aircraft bitch-slaps the F-117 and defecates the B-2.
|2 days 12 hours ago||Dave Brandon has embarrassed||
That's yet to be proven and that's probably the path that takes the longest for getting Brandon removed. If you're going to try and fire the guy for cause then there's probably lots of legal hurdles you have to clear before you can do so. If you're threatening to throw the guy out without any compensation, with his reputation in tatters, then he's not going to go quietly.
The expedient thing to do is to try and find an acceptable settlement that allows Brandon to leave without a lot of fuss and probably lets him keep some of his buyout. That won't satisfy all those who want their pound of flesh from the guy, but it gets him gone sooner, and that is the best possible scenario for getting things unfucked in the Athletic Department.
|2 days 16 hours ago||That's pretty short-sighted.||
That's pretty short-sighted. Consider our ability to find a quality replacement if we were to run Dave Brandon out of town on a rail. Finding a way to allow him to step down with some dignity is in the best interest of the University.
We are probably already facing an uphill stuggle with the impending coaching search based on how Rich Rodriguez was so unceremoniously chased out of here. Top candidates, especially ones who wouldn't pass the "Michigan Man" smell test, aren't going to be lining up for the Michigan job if there is any risk of them getting the Rodriguez treatment. That can be overcome with money, but it's a weak position to be negotiating from.
|2 days 16 hours ago||I'm not sure Mary Sue would||
I'm not sure Mary Sue would be handling things that much differently right now. She hired Dave Brandon, so she would have more skin in this game than Mark Schlissel does. Plus, I'm not sure a president or head of any large organization would want to allow for the appearance of bowing to public pressure. There are significant political and financial considerations that come with firing Dave Brandon and it needs to be carefully considered and delicately handled. We've made too many blunders the past fews years not doing more homework in considering personnel decisions. Mark Schissel taking his time with this one may not be satisfying to the torch and pitchfork masses, but I think we'll be better off in the long run.
|2 days 16 hours ago||We all want to believe the||
We all want to believe the conspiracy theories surrounding ESPN's partnership with the SEC and Tuesday nights initial CFP power ranknigs will probably do nothing to abate them, but let's wait until the conference championships get played and the final bracket comes out before we go screaming about unfair bias.
A lot gets made of ND's number 10 ranking, but aside from their performance against FSU, their strength of schedule just isn't very impresive this season. I think pollsters are completey warranted in questioning the legitimacy of ND's worthiness to be in the playoff.
The author speaks about ESPN downplaying scandals around the SEC and sensationalizing those of other conferences, but Todd Gurley got plenty of coverage when his suspension came up. Cam Newton got lots of coverage, so did Johnny Manziel, so it's sort of selective reasoning to decry the firestorm around Jameis Winston as being excessive.
Overall, this article is a lot of sizzle, with very little steak.
|3 days 8 hours ago||One small piece of advice -||
Hmmm, Dave Brandon would've been well served to heed advice such as this.
|3 days 11 hours ago||If I was a top 25 player in||
Well, as it turns out, some of those other programs will pay you to play for them. Or get coeds to do your homework for you. Or get coeds to perform hostess favors for you.
The possibilities are endless...
|3 days 15 hours ago||PSU's rebuilding will take||
PSU's rebuilding will take some time because you just don't recover from 15 lost scholarships in a season or two. MIchigan, on the other hand, is in a pretty good spot roster-wise. If we hire the right guy, and that guy can keep attrition to a minimum, he's looking at a pretty well-stocked, experienced roster. Say what you want about Hoke, but he has recruited talent, and it's just sitting here waiting to be honed into a fine instrument. It's hugely optimistc to say that Michigan could turn things around in 2015 with a coaching change, but it's not totally impossible. I think we have the players to make it happen. This coupled with a pretty favorable home schedule, and Michigan could surprise a lot of folks.
|3 days 15 hours ago||What?||
You just summed up the futility that is the Big 10 in one paragraph. Michigan State would've totally had a chance in that Oregon game if it wasn't on the road, at night, and it wasn't so damn hot. Then, they'd have had Oregon right where they wanted them. Just because MSU hung with the Ducks for a half doesn't make them a legitimate playoff contender. Everyone just needs to stop it.
1991, Michigan was fresh off a big win over Notre Dame, which featured The Catch, was ranked 3rd in the country and had top-ranked Florida State visiting. After the first half Michigan was only trailing by only 8 points and everyone in the stadium was feeling pretty good, maybe we had a chance to beat these guys and put ourselves in the drivers seat for the MNC. Second half FSU came out and steamrolled us to a 20 point victory. Michigan was never in the MNC conversation again that season, and they went 8-0 in the Big 10 and finished the year 10-2.
College football is all about what you do in key match-ups. MSU is a good team and probably the top team in the Big 10 this season, but that ain't saying much, and there are easily 7 or 8 teams out there that can stake a more legitimate claim to a spot in the playoff than the Spartans.
|3 days 15 hours ago||I didn't get a scholarship so||
I don't think colleges have spelling classes. That's one of those skills you're supposed to have coming in. Well at Michigan maybe, at OSU, Spelling 101 is probably a 4 credit hour course.
|3 days 15 hours ago||I'm sitting here, racking my||
I'm sitting here, racking my brain, trying to figure out how "Crimson Tide Foundation" spells B.A.G.M.E.N. as an acronym....maybe I've got it all wrong.
|3 days 17 hours ago||Two bricks, coming up.||
Two bricks, coming up.
|4 days 8 hours ago||It's Not Silly||
The difference between a coach like Meyer and a coach like Dantonio being that when major programs are looking to make a coaching change, Urban gets a phone call. It's true that Mississippi State and MSU are fairly equivalent programs in terms of profile and recruiting power, but it's Dan Mullen who is the hot prospect right now, and there is no buzz around Dantonio for the Florida job....or the Texas job, or the Washington job, or the Arkansas job...
You can dismiss that if you want, but I think it's a huge indictment on the perception of his coaching ability that other programs never seem interested in trying to poach him away from East Lansing. The truth is that while Dantonio is doing a great job and has taken MSU to heights they've never imagined, a lot of it has to do with their having to compete in a conference that is an absolute tire fire. The fact that he's never on anyones short list to take over at a bigger program seems to confirm this perception.
|4 days 9 hours ago||Ugh, So True....||
The fact that we're not making hay in the softest the conference has been since probably the 70's is just completely frustrating. With the talent we have on the roster and the quality of talent around the conference, our biggest complaint should be that we'll get left out of the playoff bracket because the rest of the conference sucks.
Instead we're 3-5. Fuck.
|4 days 9 hours ago||While the back-biting is||
While the back-biting is tiresome on both sides, you don't see a difference between random comments made by player / ex-players and the head of your program using these comments as justification for an almost institutional policy of bad behavior?
Dantonio has had the chance the past 8 years to not be just the better coach, but the bigger man, and he has consistently chosen to remain petty and bitter. The fact that the fanbase in general embraces his attitude just highlights the fact that the base inferiority complex that lies at the root of all of MSU's hate against Michigan hasn't been purged. Maybe there are no number of wins that will purge it.
|4 days 9 hours ago||No||
|4 days 9 hours ago||I'm not convinced that||
I'm not convinced that anything will change until Brandon is gone. And even if Brandon survives long enough to lead a coaching search, I'm convinced that his uncertain future would completely sabotage his ability to conduct a thorough search. Any coaching search that ends with us getting the best possible candidate starts with us replacing the AD.
|4 days 9 hours ago||And Bruce had a winning||
And Bruce had a winning record against Michigan, 5-4-1. OSU didn't realize how good they had it until they brought Cooper on board.
|4 days 9 hours ago||Couldn't Disagree More||
Has Dantonio appreciably improved the level of MSU recruiting? He pretty much gets the same type of players that Perles and Saban were getting. The difference between MSU then and MSU now is that the rest of the conference save OSU has turned into a complete joke. Take this MSU squad and drop it into the Big 10 of the 90's and they'd compete, but they'd still be an 8-4, 9-3 squad. This narrative that Dantonio has built MSU into this elite football program is an absolute fantasy.
Let Michigan and Penn State build back into their former selves and MSU will suddenly turn back into a pumpkin.
|4 days 10 hours ago||LOL||
This has become one of my all-time favorite gifs.
|4 days 11 hours ago||I think it's also a problem||
I think it's also a problem that Hoke doesn't employ a quarterback coach on his staff. He had one on staff at SDSU and Ryan Lindley developed into a pretty good player. At Michigan he's let the OC handle QB coaching duties to much less impressive results.
|4 days 12 hours ago||Oh god, make it stop already!||
Oh god, make it stop already!
|4 days 13 hours ago||This is a worse idea than the||
This is a worse idea than the one about bringing back Gary Moeller to coach out the remainder of the season. And that was a joke. That's right, this idea, is that fucking bad.
|4 days 13 hours ago||WTF?||
So we're collecting money to pay/augment Harbaugh's salary should he decide to come and take the Michigan job?
What winterblue75 said....
|4 days 13 hours ago||He Can't Fix It||
Actually, for me, it goes deeper than that. I blame DB for firing the right guy and then going out and hiring the wrong guy. Reading the manifesto linked by the OP just infuriates me more than I already have been at DB because the public show of support given to Hoke last year was NEVER given to Rodriguez, and you know what, if he had been given the kind of moral and financial support that Hoke has enjoyed the past 4 years, Michigan might be better off right now.
I realize that's an unpopular thing to say, because Rich Rodriguez is still a villain to a lot of folks in the Michigan fanbase, but this notion that Rodriguez was a "bad fit" for Ann Arbor is bullshit. He succeeded at WVU. He's got Arizona, ARIZONA, ranked in the Top 15 and competing for the Pac-12 Championship, and he's on the short list of prospective candidates for taking over the Florida job. Florida, one of the pre-eminent programs of the SEC. But he doesn't have what it takes to make it here in the Big 10? Right. So yeah, I'm pissed off at Dave Brandon.
Hoke certainly deserves the lionshare of fans' ire when it comes to the performance of the football team, but if you think that Brandon has learned some kind of lesson from the fisking he's taken this fall, you are sadly mistaken. If the football team's fortunes were to suddenly pick up and the furor were to die down, he'd be back to his old tricks trying to find new and vulgar ways to squeeze more money out of the golden goose, and I for one am done with that.
On top of that, his mishandling of the numerous PR issues seriously handicaps his ability to attract top flight coaching talent to this institution. Nobody is coming to take over the Michigan job if they think that Brandon will hang them out to dry like he did Hoke during the Morris concussion mess or if they'll get the Rodriguez treatment if their team doesn't win enough right out of the gate. Brandon needs to go.
|4 days 16 hours ago||This is a nice elegy for the||
This is a nice elegy for the Hoke era, but this idea that it was Hoke's charisma and passion that lured Greg Mattison and Doug Nussmeier to Ann Arbor and nothing about them being made some of the highest paid coordinators in college footbal is a bit tired.
Further, with all due respect to Coach Beilein, if I had a son with the potential to make it to the pros someday, I would want him to be coached by a person who is going to develop that potential. There are a lot of talented players on this Michigan roster right now and I don't think their potential has been as well-served as it could be by the current coaching staff.
Lastly, if there can be a positive take-away from the Hoke era, let it be the death of the "Michigan Man". We've spent far too long romanticizing this image of what a coach at Michigan should be when all really that should count is that he wins. Not necessarily win at any cost, but attaching all these mythical, superfluous, WWBD (What Would Bo Do), attributes to the coach is just idealized bullshit.
|4 days 17 hours ago||Brandon, No Contest||
It's a common misconception to blame Goss for the Halo, but it was never his idea, he was just the AD when it was installed, but it was Roberson's brainchild. He deserves blame for Ellerbee and for leaving the Athletic Department in the red by bungling our clothing and shoe deal with Nike. Doubtless, he was an ineffective AD, but he still left behind a department that was relatively healthy.
Brandon on the other hand has vaporized a wait list for football season tickets that once ran years long, alienated the student population (who are you future customers for season tickets), alienated the entire fanbase with his relentless, vulgar marketing of the U of M brand, and, oh yeah, he fired Rich Rodriguez after just 3 seasons to hire Brady Hoke.
|5 days 6 hours ago||Jesus, this is silly. Can||
Jesus, this is silly. Can you imagine Jim Harbaugh apologizing for something like this? Gosh, I really wish I could believe he is coming here because we could use a guy, who if nothing else can out-asshole an asshole like Dantonio.
|5 days 16 hours ago||With the talent on this team,||
With the talent on this team, our big bitch should be that were not in the playoff conversation because the rest of the Big10 is so bad; not that we're 3-5 and look completely inept on offense.
|5 days 16 hours ago||14-3 Feels Like 140-3||
This is is most frustrating part about Hoke's teams. The moment they fell behind by multiple scores you just knew they weren't coming back. Far cry from the days of Braylonfest.
|1 week 15 hours ago||Do they hire an assistant||
God, I hope so. If Notre Dame wanted to find a way to torpedo their athletic recruiting, assigning a coach to chaperone duty would be an excellent way of accomplishing that. Please be that stupid.
|1 week 16 hours ago||Stop It.||
While I find the self-righteousness and pretension of the Notre Dame culture as annoying as the next person, I think holding up the dating choice of two consenting adults and equating it to an academic scandal is beyond stupid. There are plenty of incidents we can point to in the past few years to highlight the hypocracy of the ND culture, but this is not one of them. Trying to impugn Justin Brent's reputation because he is failing to meet some fabricated standard for chasteness and decorum simply because he plays football for a private Catholic school is a shitty thing to do.
|1 week 1 day ago||IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER! IT||
IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!
IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!
IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!
|1 week 1 day ago||So wait, now we're to believe||
So wait, now we're to believe that this is THE BJ Dickey gracing us with his presence? Color me skeptical.
|1 week 1 day ago||Every Thursday, 9:00 AM, like||
Every Thursday, 9:00 AM, like clockwork, MmmGoBluBBQ tortures us. So cruel. So deliciously cruel.
|1 week 2 days ago||Historically, when MIchigan||
Historically, when MIchigan has got it's shit together, MSU's record against the Maize and Blue sinks to about .300 and that's a pattern that has been historically consistent. Those brief instances in history where MSU rises to the top tier of the conference, you see a proportionate decline in Michigan's performance. There really is no prolonged period where both Michigan and Michigan State were performing at great to elite levels concurrently.
|1 week 2 days ago||This is appears to be a||
Well it certainly would be nice for something to finally go our way in terms of the football program. Seems like it's been nothing by shitty news and bad luck for going on 10 years now.
|1 week 2 days ago||The reason is because MSU as||
The reason is because MSU as a "rival" is not a real threat. When you look at the history between these two programs, when Michigan is competently managed / coached, MSU's performance is about a win every 3 or 4 seasons. That's consistent. Over DECADES of games played. Take away the 1950's to the 60's and the present, where Michigan football was a mess, and Sparty never competes with us.
It's a different story with OSU. There are eras where we are dominant, where they are dominant and where were are equal, but it swings back and forth and it doens't necessarily follow a predictable pattern. OSU is a threat. We will always be in a struggle against them to be as good or better than them.
Bottom line, and this is what the Valentis and the rest of the Sparty brahs always want to downplay, is that the recruiting and talent gap between Michigan and MSU is a real thing. Michigan always recruits better talent than MSU and more oftern than not we squeeze the best out of that talent. This is why the national narrative around MSU is less about how they've risen to the ranks of the elite than how far the Big 10 as a conference has fallen. MSU being 6-1 is not so impressive when Penn State is awful. Michigan is awful. Nebraska is awful.
This also is what makes Sparty insufferable when they're winning. This is why you get incidents like the Night of the Juggalos of a few years ago. Because deep down the brahs all know that such success for them is fleeting and they have to make hay while they can....because eventually they turn back into pumpkins. It's not a question of "if" but of "when".
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Right||
Quick, everybody check next season's football schedule to make sure the location for Michigan / Ohio State hasn't changed from "Ann Arbor" to "TBA".
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Hold on...||
I think it's a little harsh to suggest that Bill Martin did nothing for lower profile sports. The first facility upgrade he completed here after he took over was the baseball / softball complex. Bill just did what any AD would do when faced with a massive cash surplus and a campus full of aging facilities. He started with the highest priority ones first and worked his way down.
By the time Brandon came along, all the low hanging fruit was already picked. What else you going to do with all that money? You can't build two football stadiums. Granted, the coaches of the low profile teams have every reason to like Brandon, but that doesn't make him the champion of non-revenue sports at Michigan.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||The notion that MIchigan has||
The notion that MIchigan has sunk to a level where it is reasonable to make them an analogue to Rutgers is so depressing, I can't even....but it's true.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||True||
This is true, I don't know your coach, but I can make some inferences from the limited amount of data that you've volunteered....and they're not good.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Devin Gardner may not go down||
Devin Gardner may not go down as one of the best quarterbacks in Michigan history, but he may be the toughest.
|3 weeks 9 hours ago||Here goes nothing....||
Here goes nothing....
|3 weeks 12 hours ago||Starts out so innocent, then||
Starts out so innocent, then 10 years later, this is what has happened....
|3 weeks 14 hours ago||True, although I wonder how||
True, although I wonder how much better the Michigan job really looked compared to Penn State in 1969. I mean Bo himself pointed out that the state of facilities at Michigan when he got there were far from world class at the time. The only thing Michigan really had going for it was reputation. It's not like Canham was going to offer JoePa a massive pay raise to come take over a Michigan program that was state of the art....that might have had something to do with his turning the job down.
|3 weeks 14 hours ago||Wrong||
Your loyalty to the University of Michigan, whether you're a former player, alumnus, or just a fan, should be above which person is at the head of the program. Calling out all these players who are now lining up to support the team when they were conspicuously absent durnig the Rodriguez firestorm is more than reasonable because they aren't really here to support Michigan, they're here to support "Lloyd Carr's Michigan" and that is the problem. That hypocracy is what has contributed to the toxic environment around this Athletic Department since Bo passed away and if we need to move past it if we're ever going to get back to being elite again.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Rare is the head coach who||
Rare is the head coach who exhibits elite strategic acumen on both the offensive and defensive sides of the ball. That's why you have a staff that you have to trust and rely on to help pick up the slack. This argument that Rodriguez's success is only as good as the DC he had working with him because "he knows nothing about defense" is a red herring. You can say something similar about every other head coach in college football.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||For all the guys who were||
For all the guys who were dancing on Rich Rod's grave and celebrating the return of "Michigan Football", this is the nightmare scenario. Michigan floundering under the leadership of the Michigan Man, while the guy who couldn't cut it in the big leagues is succeeding in an even bigger league. It's an uncomfortable thing to consider, but we should be asking ourselves, if it wasn't all Rich Rod, then maybe it was us?
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Sorry, but clearly Rich||
Sorry, but clearly Rich Rodriguez is a pretty good football coach. It's not like he succeeding at some Mountain West program. He's winning in the Pac-12, a conference which by any quantifiable measure is superior to the Big 10. If the difference between Rodriguez's results at West Virginia and Arizona versus Michigan was how he fit in with the culture, then maybe it's our culture that has to change.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||That's like saying the||
That's like saying the Atlantic and Pacific are technically only one ocean. Michigan and Huron are separated by a strait and occupy their own individual basins, which geologically makes them separate lakes.
Now the difference in depth between the basins is pretty small and the flow between them is relatively uniform, so hydrologically, they could be considered one lake, but it's all in what definition you want to follow.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Infuriating||
Rich Rodriguez did indeed fail here at Michigan, but because of almost none of the reasons you cited.
1. Rodriguez didn't "chase" Mallett out of Michigan. This has been debunked numerous times in the past. Even if Rodriguez hadn't been hired and brought an offensive system that was a poor fit to Mallet's skill set, he was probably on his way out because he was unpopular with his teammates and Bobby Petrino had just gotten hired at Arkansas, which was his first choice of a school coming out of HS. Once you had a team missing Mallet, Arrington, and Manningham, it was probably going to look pretty awful no matter what.
2. Rodriguez's recruiting rankings according to Rivals during his tenure:
Rodriguez certainly left some holes in some position areas, offensive line, specifically, and retention was a problem, but his recruiting was fairly good until the sharks started circling, and even with the shark's recruiting didn't drop off a cliff.
3. This is our failing, not his, and is just an excuse for all those who didn't like Rodriguez because he was an outsider and not MIchigan Man enough for some people. This is a toxic aspect of our culture that needs to be changed from within.
4. The Lion King is a movie, not a book and this comment is beyond stupid.
5. I didn't think you could make a stupider comment than number 4, but I was wrong.
6. The records for Hoke are also pretty abyssmal and trending in the opposite direction than under Rodriguez. There's no way to predict that if Rodriguez had been given a fairer shot that he ultimately would've succeeded, but you can definitely argue that we could have given Rich a fourth year and if things didn't work out to everyone's satisfaction, Hoke would've still been available to hire from SDSU.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Holy crap, that's terrifying.||
Holy crap, that's terrifying.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||The close ones do. When you||
The close ones do. When you lose to Utah or Minnesota by a couple of scores, all you do is shake your head in bewilderment and chuckle. When you lose a Rutgers game that was completely winnable, it still hurts a little.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I'm marveling at how easily||
I'm marveling at how easily uncomfortable situations are defused by the offending party admitting the error and offering sincere remorse. Stands in stark contrast to the clownshow of the past week.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||It's not an insult if you are||
It's not an insult if you are being obtuse, and frankly, pretending that the only reason Brandon is under fire is due to record alone without taking into account anything else is an obtuse argument to make.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Ugh||
Oh boy, I can't wait to see how my "Rich Rodriguez Appreciation Thread" is received.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||At this point, I think it's||
At this point, I think it's fair to say that Michigan's problems reach a lot deeper than depth issues created by a couple of quality linemen that we didn't get because Hoke was hired too late in the recruiting cycle. At this point we've seen issues in decision-making, game preparation, philosophy, and strategy that go far beyond simply concerns about aspects of our player personnel.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Well, Herbstreit is wrong and||
Well, Herbstreit is wrong and applying the same falacious argument that others on the board have made by saying, "If X were true, then Y would be happening". Jesus, there's a thread two above this one taking a poll using that every same, flawed logic. Hoke isn't under fire because of the Shane Morris thing. Hoke is under fire due to the cumulative effect of 2.5 seasons of ineffective football management which has come to a head with the latest variable, Shane Morris playing while concussed, being the final straw.
If Brady Hoke was 5-0, then half a dozen things that have happened during the seaosn thusfar that lead to Shane Morris starting and getting hurt wouldn't have happened.
I guess expecting sound logic would be too much to expect from an OSU graduate.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||No! Dig up stupid!||
No! Dig up stupid!
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Oh man, in that case, I would||
Oh man, in that case, I would suggest you consult with a physician....or maybe a shaman.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||No?||
You don't say?
I'll take "Things That Nobody Is Going to Find Surprising At All" for $600 Alex....
|4 weeks 1 day ago||"It's going to be Lane||
"It's going to be Lane Kiffin, you know that right?.....I honestly believe it's going to be Lane Kiffin"
- Brian Cook
Dear God....no....please be wrong
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I believe Hoke is officially||
I think that press conference is delayed until December or January regardless of the number of wins Michigan has if only because the President and the Regents have to deal with getting rid of Brandon first. I can't imagine, after the absolute clownshow these past couple of weeks, that the University would allow David Brandon to stand up at the podium and proudly introduce the next head football coach at the University of Michigan. That would be unfathomable.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Your Vision Needs Glasses||
Sorry, but you're giving Brandon way too much credit. The MIchigan Stadium upgrade was completed under Bill Martin's tenure. The initiative to upgrade Crisler was already well underway during Martin's tenure. New softball and baseball stadiums? Bill Martin. Certainly Brandon has picked up where Bill Martin left off with the refurbishment of Yost and his grand scheme for a $300 million athletic megaplex, but the guy who got the ball rolling on this was Bill Martin, not David Brandon. Your post has the tone that Brandon came in to a floundering department hemorraging money and rescued it, but that was the scenario that Bill Martin inherited from a decade of mismanagement by the likes of Tom Goss, Joe Roberson, and Jack Weidenbach. Michigan athletics was already profitable when Brandon took over, the difference between them is that Brandon has never met a money-making scheme that he didn't like.
In terms of an Athletic Director who has struck a good balance between managing ticket prices, department profit margins, and preserving the Michigan experience, Bill Martin was far more successful than Dave Brandon. I know that's an unpopular position to take around here because, you know, sailboats and Rich Rodriguez, but Martin at least was content to try and let Michigan be Michigan, whereas Dave Brandon seems to want to remake Michigan into the Jerry Jones version of the Dallas Cowboys, which, pardon my French, fuck that.
Praising him for neutral site games against Alabama? Sorry that was a shitty idea. Outdoor hockey games? They are wonderful except when we're moving home dates to an outdoor venue that isn't at our home and then disguising it to season ticket holders as a price reduction. OK, he scheduled a home and home with Texas, he get's a cookie for that but letting the Big 10 screw up our home schedule cadence by moving MSU and OSU to the same year was a colossal gaffe. Crediting him for the basketball team's resurgence? Bill Martin hired John Beilein and the program was already on the upswing with Brandon took over.
Brandon's vision that every Michigan home game should be an event comparable to the Super Bowl has grown tiresome. The gameday experience was better when pregame flyovers or skydivers were an occassional novelty rather than being a weekly part of the pageantry. Brandon's attempt to squeeze every last dime out of the Michigan brand has reached the vulgar and honestly, I don't think there's anyone on his staff who knows to tell him to stop, because anyone who would recognize that fact has been pushed out.
And now, on top of all that, when it's clear that Brandon's biggest decision so far as AD, hiring Brady Hoke, is not going to work out; he handicaps a potential coaching search by throwing his current coach under the bus to cover his own back. Your pollyannaish characterization of David Brandon is way off the mark and frankly, makes me want to punch a wall.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||"We Are The Champions" by||
"We Are The Champions" by Queen.
Fuck all this pessimism
|4 weeks 2 days ago||I mean, it would be a very||
No it wouldn't, it would be perceived as Hoke caving in to public pressure and make his position appear even weaker than it already is; all over something that doesn't matter very much. None of the guys on this thread screaming about "STUBBORNESS!" on this thread would do anything differently if put in the same situation.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Because being open and candid||
Because being open and candid with the media served our last head coach so well? I agree that Hoke's presence at the podium could be more polished, but treating the media in an adversarial manner, especially in today's climate is completely understandable and probably desirable. If we've learned anything the past 7 years, it should be that the media in this state is not here to be our advocate. They'd just as soon tear us down as build us up, so keeping them at arms length seems reasonable to me.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||One could infer from||
No, all you can infer from that statement is that Stephen Ross supports Dave Brandon. Nowhere does he imply that any potential future philanthropy is contingent upon Brandon keeping his job. Frankly, Stephen Ross could not donate one additional dime to the University and he will have done more than any other alumnus in the almost 200 year history of this institution.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||My Reply to Todd Howard||
Sadly, yes, this is exactly how you would have been treated had you not been as successful. Michigan is about a lot of things, tradition, excellence, integrity, and...winning. That's what gets bandied about on the scoreboard before the team takes the field every week. 42 Big 10 Championships. 11 National Championships. The most wins in college football. That's what were selling to the players, the recruits, and the fans. Any team can lose with honor and integrity. Eastern Michigan has been doing it for years. What makes Michigan special, the reason Todd Howard and so many other men choose to play there is because we win, and make every effort to win the correct way.
I won't deign to imply that I've sacrificed more for Michigan football than Todd Howard or any other player who has put on the winged helmet. I respect him and every player who has ever taken the field at Michigan Stadium. From Nick Sheridan to Charles Woodson. They ALL have my respect. That includes the young men of Team 135.
That said, I am a proud University of Michigan alumnus and a 25 year season ticket holder and I think that counts for something too. It chafes me just a bit to have Todd Howard dismiss me as just a "fan". I may not have as much skin in this game as he does, but I still care and I will say without hesitation, that THIS IS NOT MICHIGAN.
His loyalty to the coaches is laudable and he's conspicuously silent on the his feelings toward the AD, but to pretend that staying the course will eventually lead us to where we want to go, and let's be fair, WHERE WE SHOULD BE, is naive. This program needs leadership again and sadly, Bo Schembechler (may he rest in peace) is not walking through that door to snap everyone back into line. That time is past.
It's time for us to start the next great era of Michigan football and worry a whole lot less if it looks a little different than it has the previous 45 years. As long as we stick the core values that have anchored us for the past 135 years, we will be fine.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Well, you could argue that||
Well, you could argue that Denard wasn't very good with the read part of the Read Option either. Air Raid might've been something he would've taken to.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Yeah, I just remember when||
Yeah, I just remember when the JoePa riots were going down and the sentiment around here was akin to, "oh those crazy Penn State fans, that would NEVER happen here.", which is a very dangerous attitude to harbor. The harsh truth is that fan devotion to Bo Schembechler was every bit as passionate as that by Penn State to Paterno. It's a credit to Bo and his character that he had the humility to acknowledge when it was time for him to step aside and let someone take the reins of the program he built. Paterno's ego and hubris had him stay on far past the time when he could effectively manage that program at the cost of his and Penn State's reputation.
We are very lucky to have had a coach like Bo to be the caretaker of our program and the hole he's left since he passed is still clearly felt. A tough hole to fill.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Huh?||
Any MSU fan expressing outrage over how Morris was handled on Saturday is the peak of hypocracy. The Gholston incident was 100X worse than what we saw on Saturday and the collective response from Spartan Nation as the time was essentially, "eh, whatever".
|4 weeks 3 days ago||While I appreciate your||
While I appreciate your point, I think you're giving us too much credit. If Bo had been on the sideline and mismanaged that situation as badly as Brady Hoke did, the fanbase would be a lot more forgiving. Of course, it's impossible to imagine a competent coach like Bo Schembechler ever mishandling something like that so egregiously.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Pissed is the right way to feel about this||
Either one of two things are true:
|4 weeks 4 days ago||+1 for White Goodman gif.||
+1 for White Goodman gif.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Historically, the University||
Historically, the University has had a pretty low tolerance for bad press. Gary Moeller got canned for a whole lot less than the firestorm Hoke is facing now.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||That doesn't necessarily make||
That doesn't necessarily make him not a troll....
|4 weeks 4 days ago||True, but if we're all||
True, but if we're all suscribing to the agenda that we support the players but not the staff, then leaving the stadium half empty on Senior Day just seems wrong. Boycotting Homecoming will send the message just as effectively to the President and the Board that the fanbase and alumni are not happy with the state of Michigan athletics.
Come to the Maryland game. Fire off all the "Fire Hoke" and "Fire Brandon" chants that you want, but make sure to sprinkle in a generous dose of "Thank You Seniors" as well.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Precisely||
I don't think most of the fans think that Brady Hoke knowingly put a potentially concussed player in harms way, but ignorance of that fact doesn't excuse you from responsibility.
Here's where wearing a headset might have come in handy for you. Relaying the message, "Hey coach, Shane took a helmet to the head on that play, we should get Devin and Russell up and ready while the trainers check him out" becomes a lot easier.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Eh...||
Says the guy who joined 9 days ago? The needle on my troll detector is starting to twitch...
|4 weeks 4 days ago||You're not really this obtuse||
You're not really this obtuse are you? You can't be a credible commenter on Michigan Athletics and simply treat what went down on Saturday as a footnote to what would otherwise be some pedestrian recount of a forgettable football performance. Further, dismissing Brian's invective as "snark" and self-aggrandisement is wholly disingenuous when you yourself admit to a personal stake with Brady Hoke.
Brady Hoke is 2-3 in Year Four of his tenure at Michigan and seems to be well on his way to his worst season yet. The team shows no signs of improving, player development is a major concern and now, the one area we could turn to for hope; Hoke's relationship and repoire with players and recruits is taking a massive beating in the national media calling into question his judgement as being a caretaker for the well-being of players in his charge.
Raising questions about his competency is more than fair at this point and frankly, it should be discussed and for you to act like the rest of us are all over-reacting and we should just get back to focusing on what went wrong in the game on Saturday is just being oblivious and dishonest.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||He's not coming *clap clap||
He's not coming
*clap clap clap clap clap*
|4 weeks 4 days ago||There are also...||
days before Michigan Hockey takes to the ice to begin their season of redemption.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||That's not what he's saying.||
That's not what he's saying. Pointing out that coaching at the NFL level versus to the college level are very different animals is not unreasonable. There's lots of examples of successful college coaches not making the grade in the pros and vice versa.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Man, I'm just dumbfounded.||
Man, I'm just dumbfounded. How the fuck did we get here? The NCAA catches OSU with documented evidence of malfeasance and they still land on their feet, probably better than when they started. Penn State gets caught up in probably the worst scandal in the history of college sports and right now, they look poised to bounce back just fine. Meanwhile, Michigan is in the middle of a shitstorm the kind I've never seen with the following being the best possible scenarios:
Whew, I don't envy Mark Schissel right now, because he has inherited an absolute shitshow.
I ask again, how the fuck did we get here? It just seems so hopeless right now.
I'm low, man. Low.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Well, it's too late for Brian||
Well, it's too late for Brian to run for Regent for this election year, but in 2016, giddy up.
Start up the petitions.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Out of curiousity...||
Why Maryland? Seems a bit harsh to the players to call for a boycott on Senior Day. Boycott Indiana. Pushing for a massive boycott on Homecoming drills the point home just as well in my opinion.
P.S. - You've got my vote for Regent
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Well, Christine Brennan||
Well, Christine Brennan provided the report, she's not a U of M alumnus, but she comes from a family of fans.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Am I the only one in the John||
Am I the only one in the John vs. Jim debate who is concerned about John never having been a head coach at the college level?
|4 weeks 5 days ago||How about one more... 8.||
How about one more...
8. Poor evaluation of personnel readiness in practice leading up to gameday.
I don't know what Hoke and these guys are watching in practice, but thinking that Morris was the better option to start against Minnesota is just unbelievable.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||C'mon||
And our offense has gotten consistently worse. I'm sorry, I think you mean well, but the pollyanna tone of your post is just infuriating. If we wanted Rodriguez gone for ignoring / tinkering with the defensive side of the ball, then it's only reasonable to consider / debate replacing Hoke for the same reason with regards to the offense.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||....and the offense has gone||
....and the offense has gone from 9th in the nation to 72nd. That has a lot to do with Hoke as well.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||It's not even fucking October||
It's not even fucking October yet! Oh Christ, this is so much worse than any of the most pessimistic preseason predictions.
|5 weeks 15 hours ago||Keep the Jug||
License to kill gophers, by the government of the United Nations...
|5 weeks 16 hours ago||I've been a season ticket||
I've been a season ticket holder for over 25 years and while I don't get out to the games every week like I used to since I've got small children at home, I've always been able to break even by selling those games I don't get out to see. Now, I can't even do that anymore.
This winter, I have to take a serious look at whether keeping my tickets is worth it, and the fact that I'm even considering it strikes me as incredible.
Dave Brandon has broken what I thought was unbreakable.
|5 weeks 17 hours ago||Magic Number is 2. Who||
Magic Number is 2. Who knows, we may clinch tonight!
|5 weeks 17 hours ago||The other thing that Canham||
The other thing that Canham did was stay out of the spotlight and stick to his swim lane. Bo was in charge of the football program and that authority went without question. Brandon seems to be so much more involved in day-to-day operation of the football program, it just makes me uncomfortable. It's like we have Jerry Jones running the U of M Athletic Department.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Delicious food posts at 9:00||
Delicious food posts at 9:00 AM...why? why? WHY?
MmmGoBluBBQ, resident mgoblog sadist.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||OSU has never lost a football||
OSU has never lost a football game to another Ohio school. That's a streak that is destined to end at some point.
Please be this weekend.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||This diary just reinforces my||
This diary just reinforces my image of Dave Brandon as a ego-maniacal manager who regards his predecessors with complete disdain and lacking vision to exploit the profit-making ability of the Michigan Athletic Department. Don Canham is rolling over in his grave right now.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Naw||
This is how we should all remember Ron Zook....
|5 weeks 2 days ago||"This is pitiful. A thousand||
"This is pitiful. A thousand people freezing their butts off waiting to worship a rat. What a hype. Groundhog Day used to mean something in this town. They used to pull the hog out, and they used to eat it. You're hypocrites, all of you!"
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Big Tehhn!||
It says everything you need to know about the Big 10 this season when the 2nd most impressive performance of the OOC season is a 19 point loss on the road. Dantonio can yap all he wants, the Big 10 is not making an appearance in the playoffs this season.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||The thing that really||
The thing that really frustrates me is that 10-20 years from now, when folks look back on this era of Big 10 football and we marvel at how epically bad this conference was, we're all going to shake our heads in bewilderment at how Michigan and OSU didn't restore the old hierarchy of the 70's.
The two programs that are head and shoulders recruiting at something approaching an elite level have been OSU and MIchigan and yet both teams continue to struggle against the mid-tier teams of the league. It's mind-boggling.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Correct||
Jim Stapleton is widely rumored to be the leak that tipped off Rosenberg and Snyder about the inconsistencies in Michigan's CARA documentation, which eventually lead to the Freep's hackneyed "expose". He is not a friend of Michigan and I could give 2 shits about his opinion regarding what is wrong with our program.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Say "Lane Kiffin" Again.||
I dare you, I double dare you, motherf*#ker!
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Why would anyone want to come||
You really believe that anyone on the inside of Michigan Athletics would ever really believe that they can't attract any candidate of their choice? Rest assured, they are all suffering from the delusion that nothing can tarnish the position of being the head guy at Michigan.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||I don't recognize this||
So, you weren't around here in 2010 after the Penn State loss?
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Have to day, after we get||
Have to day, after we get past Utah, I'm really looking forward to next week's follow up thread of, "Is Minnesota Hoke's biggest game so far?"
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Bitching about thread topics||
Bitching about thread topics isn't usually my thing but....
Talking points covered ad nauseum in past threads:
- Hoke's first season honeymoon is long past - CHECK
- O-Line development in question - CHECK
- Frustrating ND game was frustrating - CHECK
- Hoke doesn't win on the road - CHECK
- Next years team should be no-excuses ready to win - CHECK
- Hoke might get fired after this season - CHECK
- Next coach needs to be better than Hoke - CHECK
Answer to whether this Utah game is Hoke's biggest yet - THEY'RE ALL BIG
|6 weeks 1 day ago||I Love This Feature||
But is there any way we could not post them at 9:00 AM in the morning, 3 HOURS BEFORE LUNCHTIME!!!
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Why?||
When you're dissenting to a subject that is essentially, "Why we shouldn't be satisfied with just winning", somebody is going to downvote you because they're going to fall into the same irrational camp as the OP; and yes, I think the premise of this diary is fairly irrational.
There seems to be this pervasive attempt at revisionist history that, prior to Carr's retirement, Michigan was a program where we could rest assured that week-in and week-out we'd win and win convincingly, when really the opposite was true. Every season you expected the team to be good, but you were also wondering where in the schedule the landmine(s) would go off to derail our season. 1997 was a pleasant surprise, not a foregone conclusion and to act like uncertainty over the near term fortunes of our football team is a recent phenomenon unique to the Rodriguez and Hoke regimes is completely inaccurate.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Can't remember when we were||
Can't remember when we were last not on TV, but I do remember lamenting games I was attending in person back in the 90s for taking too long because of commercial timeouts, so there were definitely weekends when we were not on the tube.
|7 weeks 16 hours ago||48 - 13, Michigan||
48 - 13, Michigan
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Sigh...this thread|
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Narduzzi and Bo||
I've seen that comparison made between the coaching histories of Schembechler and Narduzzi, with the intent of justifying Narduzzi as a legitimate candidate to take over the Michigan job, but you listed the important distinction between Bo and Narduzzi. Bo had head coaching experience before coming to Michigan.
Now, that doesn't mean that Narduzzi isn't a good coach and doesn't merit a crack at a head coaching gig, but Bo's time at Miami is a huge discriminator as to why he was a much more worthy candidate to take over at Michigan than Narduzzi would be under similar circumstances. I think there are better options as well.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Honestly, nobody should want||
Honestly, nobody should want to see Hoke fired. The quickest path for Michigan to return to prominence is for Hoke to succeed. Anything else equals additional program instability and more rebuilding latency in getting Michigan back to the upper echelon.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||I don't think any football||
I don't think any football team in the Big 10 could get those odds at this point.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Hey||
Where does Paul in Toledo get off running down engineers? He can kiss my ME ass.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Huh?||
You don't want to see Hoke fired, but if he loses to OSU and MSU again this year, you want to see Hoke fired?
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Based on most of the comments||
Based on most of the comments I've seen the past few days, I don't think the board is the least bit interested in reality when it comes to the football program right now. Of any kind.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||No Way||
If Saban didn't leave Alabama to take the Texas job, there is no way he'd leave for any job, including Michigan. At this point, Saban is at Bama for the remainder of his career.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Wow, but can you imagine if||
Wow, but can you imagine if he was? We'd have the whole Necromonger army to leverage in our recruiting.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Actually, no, can we please||
Actually, no, can we please not hear about his "why" again. The "why" was even dumber than the original sentiment and one of the most offensive things I've ever read on this board.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||True||
But you could also argue that we could have / should have beaten Penn State at Happy Valley last year as well. Not that a road win against PSU is anything to trumpet about the past couple of years.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Ummm||
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Sigh||
Goddamnit, can we let the "Michigan Man" thing die already? If Hoke does not ultimately succeed, then I second JDavis' sentiment that the goal of a coaching search should be to hire the best candidate. Period. The only preferences that I would have for the next coach at Michigan would be that he's had prior head coaching experience and he has knowledge of the recruiting landscape in the Midwest. That's it.
That said, I don't have the first clue as to who a good candidate might be and I think speculating about Hoke's replacement after Game 2 seems premature.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I Hope You're Right||
But our offensive line was completely overmatched by ND's D-line and their secondary was flying all over the field harassing our receivers and making plays. Sound like any other defense we might be facing later this season?
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Michigan State clearly looks||
Michigan State clearly looks like the team to beat at this point. That said, no team appears to be invincible and the conference is a non-factor in the playoff conversation this year.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||True, but....||
While true, there is a big difference between losing a hard fought game where the difference comes down to a half dozen plays that just don't fall your way and losing by 30+ points and looking completely overmatched. With the former, you just go back to work at practice and try to improve week-to-week and ocmpete for the division. Unfortunately for Michigan, the ND game seems to indicate our worst fears may be true, that there are still major problems on both sides of the ball that are not easily fixed in a couple of weeks.
We may be in for a long, frustrating season.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||What?||
While, I am the first to point out that the treatment Rich Rodriguez received in Ann Arbor was shameful, to suggest that any candidate for the head coaching position of the Michigan football program doesn't know the score with regards to expectations for performance on the field and off is ridiculous.
You're comparing Cal to Michigan? Cal hasn't been to the Rose Bowl since Eisenhower was president. In 50 years, they've won exactly two shared conference championships. The expectations at Cal aren't remotely the same as those at Michigan.
I really don't know where you're going with this.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Four Years||
Four year losing streak.
1987 - Michigan turnover fest in what would prove to be a season-long theme.
1988 - Reggie F*#king Ho, whose infamy is only outstripped by Rob F*#king Houghtlin.
1989 - Stop kicking it to Rocket Ismail!
1990 - All I remember of this game is a Grbac pass glancing off the pads of Micheal Stonebreaker and falling right into the hands of Reggie Brooks to deliver the final dagger.
Three of these games were absolutely winnable and you could easily make the argument Michigan outplayed the Irish in each of them. My roommates and I were convinced Holtz had sold his soul to Satan.
But you're absolutely right about the elation that came with winning in 1991. The younger guys on the board will never understand, but back in the late 80's, early 90's the team that always ruined Michigan's season was the Irish. Getting over the hump on them in '91 was like Michigan finally beating OSU in 2011, it was that big of a deal.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Don't forget the part about||
Don't forget the part about only applying to Michigan just so they could have the pleasure of turning them down. That's always been my favorite variation on the lie.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||The language of the rule||
The language of the rule covers things like personal hardships and the like. We don't know why Bosch is stepping away, but we can probably assume it would fall under the definition of a hardship that the NCAA would take into consideration.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Hey Pal||
Hey pal, and I mean this sincerely, from the bottom of my heart...
|8 weeks 1 day ago||1991 - Hands Down||
The Catch, and here's why. As great as the UTL I game was, it still was a furious comeback to make up for 2.5 quarters of awful. The '91 game was a tightly fought contest and Moeller calling for a pass on 4th down clinging to a 3 point lead is one of the gutsiest things I've ever seen from a Michigan coach.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||So....||
If I understand you correctly, your argument distills down to, " quit bitching, fire Hoke".
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Myself and the rest of my||
Myself and the rest of my Michigan cronies were watching in one of our respective mancaves. Some beer was had and the celebration got very raucous very quickly...primarily because Michigan turned things into a gamelong celebration. Anyhow, amidst all the high-fiving, chest-bumping, and bro-hugs after every good play Michigan made, the owner of the house had taken to sprinting across the basement and kind of jump bumping into the wall, which we all thought was amusing. However, after Woodley picked up the Quinn fumble and rumbled into the endzone for the final dagger, he raced across the room and hit the wall perfectly between the joists, leaving a body size dent in the sheet rock, and his wife staring in silent, dumb-founded disbelief. This left the rest of us literally rolling on the floor in peals of laughter. Priceless.
That is my enduring memory of the 2006 ND game.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||I know one tangible way that||
I know one tangible way that Michigan can conclusively confirm your sentiment incontrovertibly.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Yeah, Mean Tweets is Kimmel's||
Yeah, Mean Tweets is Kimmel's bit. Fallon's bit is the Celebrity Lip-Synch Battle.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||OSU could be easy||
Is "poop-filled beer cooler" a thing in the clip art library?
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Sooo....||
So..... in the context of the Transformers metaphor, does this make Doug Nussmeier, Starscream?
|8 weeks 4 days ago||True, most broadcasting crews||
True, most broadcasting crews don't know the teams intimately, so mistakes get made, but Galloway did seem bent on putting as negative a spin on Michigans performance that he could. Given that potential recruits watch the games, that kind of broadcasting from a rival is borderline unethical.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Pass blocking wasn't awful,||
Pass blocking wasn't awful, and the run blocking could best be described as "unsteady"
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Nussmeier >>>> Borges||
Nussmeier >>>> Borges
|9 weeks 12 hours ago||The Real Worry||
Here lies my greatest fear. Not that we're going to lose to ASU again. We're not. But that we win while looking just god-awful on the offensive line. Please don't let this be true....PLEASE!!!!
|9 weeks 12 hours ago||I have a suggestion....||
May I suggest you test your potential abiliities by posting the Jackonsville State promotional video over on the Spartan Tailgate board?
|9 weeks 16 hours ago||Ouch||
Somewhere mGrowOld just died a little....
|9 weeks 17 hours ago||Never Forget|
|9 weeks 17 hours ago||(No subject)|
|9 weeks 17 hours ago||Setting the over/under on||
Setting the over/under on "Well"s at seven....
|9 weeks 17 hours ago||I'm glad you posted AC and||
I'm glad you posted AC and not one of the successors to his jersey. There is only one true Number One in Michigan lore.
|9 weeks 17 hours ago||Maybe we should wait to see||
Maybe we should wait to see how Kenny Hill performs over the course of a few games or a season before declaring that Shane Morris deserves no grace period when he takes the QB helm (probably) for Michigan next season. If there's one thing you can say about young college quarterbacks, is they tend to be inconsistent. See Drew Henson, Chad Henne, Tate Forcier, and Devin Gardner.
Hill's performance last night was impressive, but it wouldn't shock to see him have some outings that don't go so smoothly this season. Manziel was a massive exception to the rule.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||O: Derrick Green, Kyle||
O: Derrick Green, Kyle Kalis
D: Ondre Pipkins, Jabrill Peppers
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Uh....||
I....don't even own a clarinet.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Seconded||
The only people who still really care about this game are the haters who like to rub our nose in it, our own fanbase who still want to whine about it, and media-talking heads who like to play the first two off each to generate buzz from it.
Disagree wholeheartedly on your final point regarding the Freep. I'll never forgive that 2nd rate rag for their hatchet job against my beloved alma mater. The day I'm able to piss on the smoldering ruins of that periodical will be a happy day.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Whoa||
Mother of god, that looks like a scene out of "Necessary Roughness". I can just hear Hector Elizondo asking, "Who missed the assignment?", and Robert Loggia screaming back, "Everybody missed the goddamn assignment!"
|9 weeks 3 days ago||I Could Be The Walrus...||
I could be the Walrus, but I'd still have to bum rides off of people.
Yeah, that's not true either, I actually do own a car
I did actually sleep with Mia Sara though....
....OK, yeah, that's total bullshit also.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||I WAS IN THE POOL!!!!|
|9 weeks 3 days ago||So what you're saying is that||
So what you're saying is that Dantonio is a bigot?
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Sigh||
Believe it or not, I'm not actually Ferris Bueller, that was just a character I played.....oh wait, I'm not Matthew Broderick either.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Agreed||
If it means we're playing in Indianapolis on December 6th, then yes, have some.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Don't Give Yourself Too Much Credit||
Making that prediction is as difficult as predicting the sun rising in the morning.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||C'mon||
It's unreasonable to expect this Michigan team to win games on the road against ND, MSU, and OSU in a single season. Suggesting that should be the standard for success is just setting yourself up for disappointment and giving yourself a license to bitch (unjustifiably).
Taking 2 of 3 of that gauntlet would be a major win for us and if they take all 3, well then we're probably closing out out the regular season in Indianapolis and staring at a good shot at making the playoff.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||"You're a funny guy Sully. I||
"You're a funny guy Sully. I like you. That's why I'm going to kill you last."
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Goddamn Jimmy, this is some||
Goddamn Jimmy, this is some serious gourmet shit. Me and Vincent would've been satisfied with some freeze-dried Tasters Choice, right? And he springs this serious gourmet shit on us.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||So I wondered - is anyone||
Not yet. My daughter is only 3 and my son is just 10 months old. Still, as a season ticket holder who has grown weary of the Dave Brandon price-gouging over the past few years; the only thing that keeps me renewing each year is the thought of taking my children to their first game someday. I fondly look forward to that day.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Look, just because Michigan||
Look, just because Michigan has slid from being a program that can expect to be 9-3 year-to-year to being a program that aspires to being 9-3 doesn't mean that Lloyd Carr was a great head coach. Lloyd was a good coach and he can be credited to helping keep Michigan competitive, but does anyone believe that he squeezed the maximum potential out of every one of his teams? Lloyd won a National Championship and he deserves praise for that, but the fact that 1997 stands aa a glorious surprise as opposed to an expected culmination is something of an indictment against him.
Going into most seasons, you would look at Michigan's schedule and believe things were favorable, but you always wondered which game or two we would stub our toe on. That was the experience under Lloyd, and while he was good, he had the talent playing for him to be great and his limitations as a coach held Michigan back most seasons. Just because the program has slipped below this level of competency doesn't mean we should look to set the bar at Lloyd.
Cynics might say that to achieve anything better than 9-3 on a year-to-year basis is the best a program can expect that isn't prepared to play fast and loose with the rules in today's college football world. Maybe it's true. Still, those programs that are elite are the ones that expect to be 11-1 or 12-0 year-to-year and when they aren't, it's a surprise.
Lloyd Carr deserves a lot credit for what he did here as head coach. A Cincinnatus-like figure that reluctantly assumed the mantle of leadership at a time when the program was most vulnerable and held things together for almost a decade and a half. But that doesn't excuse him from any criticism in hindsight.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||He scheduled the game because||
The plummeting sale prices for tickets on Stubhub disagrees with you.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Phew...||
Why do I have the terrible feeling that the Glove will have to reissue this post next season with "seven years" being updated to "eight years"? But not because we lost to App State again, those guys are getting completely annihilated this Saturday.
As for the rest of the season, please let me be wrong...
|9 weeks 4 days ago||I want to be optimistic, but||
I want to be optimistic, but I can't shake the sense that we'll be looknig back on this year in December and telling ourselves, "what if?".
I want to believe that the OL comes together, allowing our 5th year senior QB, and stable of talented RBs and WRs, to stand up against our enemies, control the line of scrimmage, manage the clock, and efficiently score points.
I want to be surprised again, in a good way, like against OSU in 1996, or PSU in 2005.
I want results to not be the foregone conclusions that they seem to have become with us, and when the predictions are wrong, they're usually wrong in a bad way, like against Toledo in 2008 or Iowa last year.
I want the swagger that we had in the past that comes from programs built around superior recruiting and tear a hole in the psyche of all the Valentis of the world who will claim that programs can make up for lack of stars by being "tougher" than others or "coaching up" their players better.
I want all these things.
I want to believe. Make me wrong about being pessimistic, guys. Make me believe again.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah, but you forgot one thing....||
This is no cave.
|10 weeks 4 hours ago||Yeah, I just hope Peppers||
Yeah, I just hope Peppers doesn't wind up at the bottom of a well while WD dances around nude with his rig tucked between his legs.
|10 weeks 14 hours ago||To be fair, we impugn the||
To be fair, we impugn the reputation of Big 10 schools not named Michigan and Northwestern also.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Exactly||
OSU has gained more than its fair share of wins in the last 10 years because Michigan was not at full strength, and that never stopped their silly "Days Since Michigan Won The Game" from being tallied. I'm sorry that Miller got hurt, but screw their excuses. If the QB play proves to be difference in Columbus this November, Muppets will still be played.
|11 weeks 12 hours ago||It's Friday!||
Time to head out and hit the clubs!
|11 weeks 1 day ago||This along with seeing||
This along with seeing tangible proof that Nussmeier adjusts well as the game goes along. The thing that was so frustrating with Borges was his seeming inability to counter when the opposing defense made effective adjustments to his gameplan.
This is one of the things that I think makes Mattison so good at what he does on the defensive side of the ball. He always seems to have a counter and then another counter as the game progresses and the defense as a result usually keeps the team in a position to win. Seeing Nuss show that ability would be very exciting.
Can you imagine how giddy we'd all get if MIchigan came out this year and actually made MSU pay for that A-gap blitz they love to run from their MLB?
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah, 8-4 will definitely||
Yeah, 8-4 will definitely inspire a long offseason of "Fire Funk" and "Fire Hoke" threads which will result in numerous slapfights the likes of which we haven't seen since Rodriguez got the axe. Not an exciting prospect. Please exceed expectatoins guys....please!!!
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Actually, I think Bollinger||
Actually, I think Bollinger has publicly admitted that the halo was more his and Roberson's idea than Goss'. The halo got installed on Goss' watch, but it wasn't his brainchild.
That said, Goss was a horrible AD. He managed in 3 years to take a profitable, self-sustained department and run it millions of dollars into the red. He's responsible for giving us Brian Ellerbe and poisoning our relationship with Nike. For all the criticism Martin took during his tenure, Goss was orders of magnitude worse.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Look you have to admit, your||
Look you have to admit, your criteria is completely arbitrary and inconsistently applied.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||And Princeton and Yale....||
And Princeton and Yale....
|11 weeks 2 days ago||You think the man who||
You think the man who wouldn't spring to send the MMB to Texas for the Alabama / Michigan game is going to spring for Oberon on the Hockey Party Bus?
You'll get Milwaukee's Best my friend and like it.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||With location listed as||
With location listed as "TBA", which should've been a major red flag for all of us.
Last season's game at the Joe was also listed as a "home" game, but it wasn't part of the season ticket package.
Look, I'm not trying to defend what the Athletic Department did with regards to this, I've made at least a dozen comments on two threads to the contrary. Still, to claim that they have criminally defrauded the season ticket holders is an overstatement.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||Umm||
What? Season ticket holders are not getting a seat at Soldier Field as part of their package. I'm sure the Ticket Office will come out with some kind of preferred seating offer to the season ticket holders similar to what they did for the Big Chill, but we'll have to pay for it just like every other attendee will.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||No it won't sell out, but it||
No it won't sell out, but it will sell more than the 6000 tickets that would've been sold to fill Yost, and probably at a premium price and that's probably all the thought that Dave Brandon put into making this decision....and that of course is at the root of the problem that most of us are having with him as our AD.