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|3 years 24 weeks ago||Ken Dorsey was a QB in the||
Ken Dorsey was a QB in the Big East ;) , but anyways, the guy who talked about speed outside of skill positions hit the nail on the head. SEC makes its mark with athletes on DEFENSE. SEC DLs especially are uber talented. Before the Bama/MSU bowl game this yer, there was a quote from Saban saying how MSU's D wouldn't bother them as much as they didn't have speed rushers like SEC teams they were used to. That about sums it up. Speedy pass rushers are generally missing across the Big10. Even Ohio State doesn't have much in that area. LBs and DBs and probably TEs for that matter are also more athletic across the SEC.
|3 years 24 weeks ago||ah yes, it's a coincidence||
ah yes, it's a coincidence that 20% of our population, at best, makes up 90+% of the high level athletes in this country. I forgot. It may not be the skin color that does it, but African Americans are better athletes. There will be no white Lebrons or Julius Peppers/Mike Vicks walking through the door anytime soon and if it somehow happens, it will be quite the anomally.
|3 years 24 weeks ago||Well said jmblue||
this post should have ended the thread. The SEC is stacked. They are getting a higher percentage of the top athletes, period. Its not hard to see in recruiting. That isn't everything, but it's a good start.
|3 years 24 weeks ago||as a 1 year player of||
as a 1 year player of football, his slow footedness could very well be due to bad technique/footwork due to being so raw. Similar to how some of our faster players got ran around on defense last year by slower players, as they weren't in the right position or taking the right angles. He also might be just a big slow bum, but I hope the coaching staff will be able to figure that out.
|3 years 24 weeks ago||I say offer him a scholly. We||
I say offer him a scholly. We have little to lose IMO. We'll all be pissed if he ends up at OSU as a starting LT or something. If he had played football his junior year, when teams are most looking at your tape, he'd probably be a much higher rated recruit. There is a chance he is jsut never going to develop of course, but that is the chance you take with recruits. He's got the frame and athleticism to be an OT at this level. We're thin with depth and we have a scholarship or 2 left still for this year. Take him, redshirt him and see what you can build him up to. We're going to have 4-6 guys leave between now and next year, we'll have plenty of scholarships left for that class. We need another OL in this class.
|3 years 24 weeks ago||Anyone else think Demmens is||
Anyone else think Demmens is similar to Harris?
and by the way Harris would still be an excellent MLB in our defense and Woodley would have been an awesome pass rushing RDE under Marinelli especially but under Schwartz too, as he likes to get pressure with the front 4 much of the time. Woodley might be undersized, but he's a freakin' monster. He can play DE for me any day, especially if it's between him and Drew STanton being on my team.
|3 years 24 weeks ago||I think we set up well for a||
I think we set up well for a 4-3 and there is certainly no down side to it. It's the ideal defense in the big 10. A 3-4 would be nice, but it's tough to implement without the right players. We have too many 4-3 OLB types on the team and Roh and Martin are minimalized to some degree. Martin as a run plugger, Roh in space.
The key to it this year is obviously the NT spot, or whatever you want to call the spot next to Martin. I'm confident Washington can at least be solid in short yardage situations, but can he be a full time DT for us? Ash was supposedly impressive in bowl practices and will go through his second year of offseason training with us. I think we really need him to be a factor. All 4 of our DTs need to be at least rotation worthy really. Ash or Campbell can rotate with Q at the one spot and whoever loses that battle needs to at least be able to rest Martin. I suppose RVB can be the 4th DT if Ash or BWC is a bust. Ideally he mostly plays DE though. If that is the case, our DE rotation is pretty strong with him,Roh and Black, plus hopefully Wilkins and/or Beyer is ready to contribute. Beyer is a freak athlete and will likely play at about 240, not the 220-5 he's listed at. I think he could be effective spelling the starters occasionally as a pass rush specialist. He's more capable of dropping into coverage than Roh too IMO, so MAttison will probably want to use that. I'd feel better if we had gotten Cooper
If we manage to solidify that NT spot, I don't see LB as an issue. We'll mostly keep blockers off them and Demmens is a rock in the middle. Gordon,Ryan,Furman,Fitzgerald,M.Jones and maybe even Herron,Carvin or one of the freshmen are solid options to take hold of the 2 OLB slots. None are proven, but Cam looked pretty good as a LB and we've all heard the Ryan mythyology by now. Fitzgerald is a good talent who will be a senior,Jones has flashed potential and Furman is a hell of an athlete who needed time to bulk up to LB size. Carvin was one of our best tacklers as a true freshman and may not have the coverage skills for S, especially FS if Kovacs and/or Marvin Robinson are manning SS. I think we are about to see a return to the type of LBs we are used to seeing at Michigan, flying around the field and hitting people.
The secondary is key, but that's true regardless of scheme. We'll be better with a year of experience, a freshman class that at worst is better than last year's seniors(basically Rogers since Troy W was hurt) and Woolfolk back. A WR could be moved here to even out the depth charts. Someone like Grady or Stokes who sees their opportunities shrinking by the day at WR makes sense. Grady has been talked about before, not sure if Stokes could do it. If a young talent like Christian or Countess can beat out Floyd for the 3rd CB job, we'll be in much better shape. Floyd is probably not a top 3 CB in the big 10. Also Christian or Floyd will likely be the FS on passing downs. Christian could take the every job down even if he impresses.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||Fresmen - Barnett redshirts||
Fresmen - Barnett redshirts with Koger,Moore and Miller in front of him. Countess grabs the starting job opposite Woolfolk. Rawls also redshirts to acclimate himself to the academic grind at UM but Hayes contributes as a 3rd down back.
Offense - Cox to FB, Hopkins gets the most carries. We run more 3 WR than 2 TE or TE/FB and Roundtree,Hemingway and Stonum all have big years. Grady to DB,Watson possibly to TE.
Defense - Ryan and C.Gordon combine with Demmens to make LB a strength. Carvin takes the SS job from Kovacs and Washington takes the NT job on run downs, Martin and RVB inside on pass downs with Ash rotating in, maybe BWC too.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||I'd take Courtney on the||
I'd take Courtney on the Pistons in a heartbeat. He can't be worse than Maxiell and WAllace is hurt.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||Why do we want to bring money||
Why do we want to bring money to the city, nobody lives there anymore. Put the Wings and Pistons in the Palace for 10 years and then build a new stadium at the same site if anything. All the freakin' hockey fans live in Oakland county(the ones that buy tix at least) and that location is much better suited to handle the traffic and such. You have a built in, team owned lot and it's easy as hell to get in and out of the Palace compared to going to say, Comerica Park at 6 o clock on a week day. Like someone said, Detroit has bigger things to worry about. They need to break it up into 3 or 4 different cities .
|3 years 25 weeks ago||Well Jimmy D was there before||
Well Jimmy D was there before Holland and Illitch has given his teams a ton of money to spend. That's the most important part. Let the people who know what they are doing handle the hockey/baseball side of things. The Tigers are a shit ton better with DD and JL than they were before Illitch came.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||We won't miss Willingham.||
We won't miss Willingham. He'd have been a good one, don't me wrong ,but we are set at LB
WLB - Gordon,M.Jones,Furman,A.Poole,Hawthorne
MLB Demmens Bell Morgan
SLB Fitzgerald Bell K.Jones Clark
That's 12 LBs with only one of them graduating next year. We'll most likely add one of the local guys if not 2 next year as well. I'm not worried about the size issue as far as Willingham either. Guys like Mouton and Bell came in as 205 lb safeties as well and were quickly up to 245 or so. It's not going to be hard to put weight on guys like Jones and Clark especially.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||Furman came here to bulk up||
Furman came here to bulk up and be a LB. He is not a SS much less a FS. He is too big and lumbering back there. He has speed and athleticism, elite for a LB, poor for a S. He isn't smooth enough in coverage and such. It'd be like Ernest Shazor back there(I have nightmares about him in coverage still) except as a FS instead of strong, so worse.
Furman should be a good one. If he and Jones both look good along with Ryan, I still like the idea of Cam going to offense. Next year, we are going to be thin at WR. We recruited none this year, 4 graduate and Miller will be a TE. Guys like Williamson,Jackson and Robinson are unproven and the rest are slot types. Gordon and Roundtree at WR in a WCO would be nasty. Put Miller,Barnett,Moore and a blocking type in the TE rotation.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||Mattison with Clowney would||
Mattison with Clowney would be so fun. Too bad we never had a shot with him.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||or most players you recruit||
or most players you recruit for football are going to be physical and/or athletic?
|3 years 25 weeks ago||I gotta throw another vote||
I gotta throw another vote out there for Kellen Jones. I think he's better than Poole to be honest. I like Poole a lot too, but Jones is going to be special. Also excited for Hayes and Hollowell amongst others
|3 years 25 weeks ago||True but MW is a sick talent.||
True but MW is a sick talent. #5 DB by scout I believe too. Some guys just aren't football players though. I did think he had a chance to break out last year if healthy, as he was pretty young prior to that, but it was hardly a certainty. Some guys just don't have the instincts and understanding of the game to match their natural talents and athelticism. You take guys like that every time out of HS though.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||Yah Carr didn't go too all||
Yah Carr didn't go too all out the last 2 years with the Parkinson's and everything else. I'm not sure the class is a complete bust as advertised, but oh well. I think it will be redeemed a bit if Hemingway and Woolfolk have the SR. seasons they are expected to. It's really too bad Warren didn't stay another year. Him and Troy at CB would have changed the whole D
|3 years 25 weeks ago||Well, we already know Ole||
Well, we already know Ole Miss pays after the Newton thing(not caught paying, but clearly were in discussions) so I'm guessing that's the reason.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||Hemingway and Molk too at the||
Hemingway and Molk too at the least
|3 years 25 weeks ago||I really want Willingham to||
I really want Willingham to close out the class, but we will live without him too. We have a lot of young bodies at LB with Furman,Gordon(maybe both),Ryan,M.Jones and K.Jones,Clark,Morgan already in this year's class. A guy like Fisher or Cooper was a bigger need.
Anyone think Hoke feels stupid for not taking Lucien at WR now?
|3 years 25 weeks ago||I just can't help but think||
I just can't help but think about what our offense would be like with Denard as a LaMichael James type RB, maybe punt returner too. Compliment him with Rawls/Shaw and Hopkins and put them behind Devin Gardner and you have something sick there. Just DG and DRob in the same backfield alone is sick.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||Yah, as soon as Ray Drew and||
Yah, as soon as Ray Drew and Avery Walls make the last second switch to UM we'll be all set. I'd also settle for a Kouindajo(sp?) and Clowney combination
|3 years 25 weeks ago||anyone catch the Justice||
anyone catch the Justice Hayes- 5 star recruit on the screen at some point?
|3 years 25 weeks ago||Jake Ryan and Josh Furman are||
Jake Ryan and Josh Furman are two guys I'm really excited about for next year. I expect both to be impact players at LB. Ryan as the possible strong side starter, Furman probably as a nickel if Gordon stays at LB.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||Eh, he was a frosh and he's||
Eh, he was a frosh and he's one of our only LBs with size. Not sure how much I care about FB right now. I say keep him at LB until he's an official bust.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||I wonder if Flavin or Nowicki||
I wonder if Flavin or Nowicki could still be flipped. Too bad we didn't pull Westerman, should have been one we could have pulled with Roh and Lewan here.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||I can't disagree too much. I||
I can't disagree too much. I mean, Hemingway is a good player and down the stretch last year he was better than Roundtree, but he isn't a top 20 player in the nation type.
|3 years 26 weeks ago||how beautiful would it be if||
how beautiful would it be if we could get V.Smith to transer, on his own voliton and then sign Rawls with that slot?
|3 years 26 weeks ago||Raymon Taylor||