I'VE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU SONNY
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|3 days 7 hours ago||Not a real world response||
Not sure if you have kids, but they don't listen to everything you say, even if you personally model the behavior and say it multiple times. Shocking, I know.
So a little help from the culture at large, and 'leaders of young men' like Urban Meyer, would be nice. You know, since these are "student-atheletes" representing the university, and all.
EDIT: Meant to be a response to goblue2011
|3 days 9 hours ago||"A non-event handled on scene"||
What does that even mean?
A 'non-event' -- people are still talking about it days later, precisely because it so rarely happens. It's by definition an 'event' ; you may not care about it, but it very untypical behavior that was very noticeable. How often has what Marcus Hall did happen at a UM (or OSU or MSU or ...) home game?
And how was it 'handled'? He had alerady been kicked out of the game (i.e., punished) when he THEN did all that nonsense (throwing helmet, kicking bench, flipping off fans). He suffered zero meaningful punishment for that. It wasn't handled at all.
His actions aren't the end of the world and aren't as bad as other behavior (e.g., off the field stuff like DUIs) -- but it still should have been punished in some small, meaningful way (e.g., suspended for 1st half of his next game). It wasn't.
|3 days 10 hours ago||Yes I would want him suspended||
Did you see the reaction after Lewan's antics in the MSU game? A good portion of the board expected him to be suspended or punished in some way (I don't have the exact numbers but it wasn't just a couple peopple).
If Ryan/Lewan/whomever came off the bench to join a fight, threw his helmet afterward, kicked over a bench and then flipped off the fans with both middle fingers, I'd certainly want him suspended, at least for the first half of the next game.
Essentially, Hall suffered zero reprecussions for his post-fight antics, which ultimately means that's acceptable behavior (oh, Meyer did say he was 'disappointed' and Hall did get a 'public reprimand' -- I'm sure he's all torn up about what Jim Delany thinks of him). I don't think that's OK.
|3 days 10 hours ago||Perhaps b/c they are on TV||
Perhaps b/c they are on TV and literally hundreds of thousands of people cheer them on, often wearing their jerseys to identify with them? That people name their kids after them and arraneg their entire weekends around their activities?
No on has to "tell" kids anything; they see how people react and fawn over athletes. It's up to parents to do their best and inform kids that behavior like Hall's is poor sportsmanship and is being a poor teammate, but you can't be around them all the time.
|4 days 8 hours ago||That's life in the big city||
Hoke doesn't have 2014 as another "rebuilding" year; he has to produce. UM needs to contend for a B1G title next year for his sake.
Off the top of my head, I can't think of single football coach in the last twenty years who put together three straight mediocre to below average seasons at one of the Top 40 schools in the country and kept their job. And that's what Hoke would have achieved if he goes 8-5, 7-6, 8-5. If you have an example, I'm all ears. Perhaps Bo Pellini, but his teams at least are semi-regularly in the conf championship game (which we haven't sniffed since it started).
And I don't think four years is unreasonable. In four years, you should have most (if not all) of "your" guys, from coaches to players. If "your" guys are still delivering 5 loss seasons, esp in the 4th or 5th best conference in the country, you've got a problem. And the problem is you.
|4 days 8 hours ago||A good reading||
If the offense delivers a Nebraska/Iowa/Northwestern/MSU stinkbomb in the bowl game (particularly if it's against a Gerg-coordinated Texas), I think the "anticipation" will be too much, and "unexpected" changes will be made.
|4 days 8 hours ago||Agreed - 2014 is now the year||
Hoke's rolling the dice with this/putting all his chips on the table/whatever gambling metaphor you like.
Hopefully, it will be a moot point and UM will win 9 or more games next year.
My goodness I hope the App State game isn't close next year; the fan base won't be able to take an Akron-like outing (or worse). That will be the most keyed up I will be for UM to play at home against a team that's probably somewhere around 75th in the nation, ever.
|4 days 9 hours ago||You're too optimstic - 7-5 next year is fireable||
In college football, you don't need 5 years to turn around a program. There are scores of examples of it taking less than that, and it is not as if Hoke has wanted to for resources (e.g., cash money for assts). If Hoke goes 7-5 (and perhaps even 8-4 if he loses to ND, MSU and OSU), I think it's likely he is gone. The fan base will be apopletic, whether on this blog or off.
Hopefully that won't happen, but with all of our main rivals recently having very good/great seasons, three straight years of five losses does not keep your job. Not when your AD has 110,000 seats to fill.
|4 days 9 hours ago||Appropriate movie scene, for sure||
I imagine myself in the Brad Pitt role, dry heaving, crying and repeating "No!" and "That's not true" over and over, upon hearing this news.
|5 days 4 hours ago||Urban Meyer did not kick Cam Newton off the team||
Cam Newton transferred on his own, which Meyer was fine with, b/c he had Tebow.
|5 days 6 hours ago||Good for curiousity but diff situations||
They had horrible injuries this year. To put in perspective, how do you think UM would have done if we lost Gardner (starting QB) along with Lewan, Bosch, Magnuson and Scholfied (all starting OL except the C)? There were a few more injuries than that, but basically comparable to our loss of Darboh and D Johnson.
All that said, they haven't been good at offense for a while, which is why they are probably trigger happy. But with those kind of injuries, you're not going to have much of a shot.
|5 days 12 hours ago||I don't believe this will happen - we're BWW bound||
I have seen some discrepancy on this, but I believe the BWW has the selection BEFORE the Gator Bowl. If so, they will take UM as a) we're a 'name' team and b) we haven't played in Arizona in awhile. Certainly they would select us over Minnesota.
If so, we're likely to play Texas. Aka, the Revenge of Gerg.
|6 days 5 hours ago||The B1G has earned its bad rep||
FSU wiil get every #1 vote. Auburn will be ranked ahead OSU by a few votes, as they have far more impressive victories than OSU which will excuse their 1 loss. I don't know if Alabama will be ranked ahead of OSU (I really doubt it).
With Wisconsin losing, OSU will have zero wins over top 20 opposition. It's almost like OSU is playing in a slightly better version of the MAC.
In the end, OSU will need to beat MSU, and then have FSU or Auburn lose their championship game to have a shot at the BCS.
|6 days 5 hours ago||Have you seen FSU?||
FSU goes out and flat out dominates everyone they play, usually by 30 to 50 points. The only game that was remotely close was BC, and that was still by 2 touchdowns.
Ohio State struggles to put away Illinois and just gave up 41 pts to an offense ranked below 100.
The resumes aren't that close - FSU will easily be ranked ahead of OSU as long as both remain unbeaten.
|6 days 5 hours ago||Auburn will jump OSU||
OSU just barely beat a team they were favored by 16 pts to beat, and also there most impressive win (Wisky) looks less impressive with their loss today against PSU.
Auburn beat the #1 team and defending natl championship and the voters have a lot more respect for the SEC than B1G.
I guarantee Auburn will be ranked ahead of OSU in the human polls. In the computers, who knows? I have no idea how those computers work.
|1 week 13 hours ago||Close for a while, but then they pull away||
|1 week 2 days ago||Ok, that was funny. When are||
Ok, that was funny.
When are we getting up/down votes back? We need to up vote these gems.
|1 week 2 days ago||Magnus, I understand where you're coming from...||
..as it has come up quite a bit and it feels like we're covering the same ground, but we should care b/c one of the reasons we thought UM was finally going to start competing with the big boys again is we spent the money that MGrowOld and everyone else ponies up every year in PSDs, suites, etc on coaches -- esp asst coaches Mattison (very good use of $$$) and Borges (not so much).
I suspect the nonrenewal/wait for Stubhub movement will be quite big next year, esp if we get beat bad by OSU and in the bowl game. We already know the 2014 home schedule is crap. There is no more waiting list to pick up the slack. Thus, I wonder how quickly we'll careen into Tennessee territory and start running an AD budget deficit*. If that happens, who knows if/when Borges is fired that we will spend the money to get a top asst replacement, or suddenly be subject to the right-sizing/cost control that's currently happening elsewhere at the university? That possibility is why we should care.
All-in-all, this is yet another reason I am hoping for a near-miracle and we beat OSU this weekend.*I'm assuming Ross' $100 million, like many gifts, is dedicated to certain uses and can't be used to paper over a possible operating deficit But I may be incorrect, as they haven't been specific about where that money is going.
|1 week 3 days ago||One my favorite scenes ever||
And appropriate for a whole host of situations.
(Funny thing about that scene: Brando improvised the slap to get a reaction out of Martino, who clearly wasn't expecting it, as you can tell by his stunned/bemused look after it).
|1 week 3 days ago||Good follow-up thoughts||
A ticket is different than a car purchase, so that analogy needed some explanation. I think you did a good job.
|1 week 3 days ago||Oh, we're there - it's time for a market correction||
I completely agree that if Michigan were 10-1 or 9-2, and fans thought the program was on the right track, people would 'demand' to the tickets at prices Brandon is setting. That's the assumption he used when he "dynamically" priced them (though as Brian notes, only priced them one way -- up).
However, he (and many other ADs) have priced for near-perfection. They've built palaces that people only fill at $100+ a pop if the team is very good. If the team is 7-4 (and looked ugly doing it) or 5-6 or 4-7 or etc, it's not worth their time and money.
I mean, go look at the UF/GSU game last week. I saw the "highlights" and I did a double-take -- the Swamp looked like a home Wake Forest game.
There's a market correction coming -- and it's in 2014.
|1 week 4 days ago||That is one huge sophomore||
He's 6 foot 5, 289 pounds right now. How big was he in 8th grade - he must have endangered people's lives with his blocks/tackles. My goodness.
Welcome to the fold.
|1 week 5 days ago||Throw it, early and often||
Go three wide / four wide. Throw the ball at least 40+ times - short and med, with just a few long. Tell Devin it's preferred to throw the ball away on 1st or 2nd down, instead of trying to do one of his duck-and-scramble (which doesn't work much, b/c he often "ducks" into the 2nd or 3rd defender who beat his man). Run draw plays on occasion. Never have two backs in at once, as the I-form is junk.
I don't expect this to happen, as it should have already (see Nebraska). But OSU has an excellent offense with a so-so defense, and will likely score 24 or more points no matter what we do (e.g., if we try ball control), so our only chance is to outscore them in a shootout.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||A triple negative -- in Dan's honor||
Dan Dierdorf never had to be told he should not do another year in the broadcast booth when he wasn't ready to do it anymore.
Seemed like a good guy, I (generally) enjoyed his broadcasting over the years and he's was a complete stud as an OL at Michigan and in the NFL. Hope he enjoys retirement.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||It's worse than that - doesn't include the Northwestern game||
I'm not sure how it handles overtime (it says it "filters" certain drives, like clock kills), but my strong guess is we're now in the 60s. Hopefully we do better against Iowa.
And while all that is interesting, it almost doesn't matter, as things can change greatly with in one season. UM's offense was awesome against CMU, ND and Indiana -- but after watching UM's "offense" these past three games, it seems like those earlier games existed in a bizzaro-land universe, even though they were this season.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Yes, I'm Fitz's mom. You got me.||
Is Northwestern good? You know, 0-6 in the B1G?
And people ARE acting like the running game is fixed by saying, "Well, time to move on. See ya Fitz." Three games ago FItz ran for 150 yards and 4 TDs! Suddently, it's impossible he'll have another good game again? Plus, just b/c Green and Smith had one nice game doesn't mean they'll do the same against Iowa or OSU.
Our offense is not good, with or without Fitz. We need all the options we can in hopes that will possible fixed. And as I showed, in multiple games over multiple seasons, our mediocre W/L record would have been even worse without his contributions.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||"Hasn't really given us anything" the last two years?||
MSU (12-10 W) - 10 carries / 52 yards
ND (41-30 W) - 22 carries / 71 yards, plus 1 rec for 31 yards
Yep. It's like he hasn't even been here.
Meanwhile, go look at Derrick Green's stat line before this game - 10/23, 3/1, 6/21, 8/11, etc. Should we have given up on Green b/c he was posting multiple games where he did nothing, and also was bad at blitz pickups?
Look - Fitz has not been good in multiple games this year running the ball (though a good deal of that has been our bad OL), and he has struggled tremedously in blitz pickups. And I definitely think Green and Smith should get a good percentage, and perhaps the majority of the carries going forward, as we should be looking to develop for next year as much as for this year at this point, as we are out of the B1G race..
But my goodness - with Smith & Green, we racked up a massive 9 pts in regulation. It's not like a rushing problems are fixed.
|3 weeks 16 hours ago||Wait - I thought "young raw" was the problem :)||
I agree, in an ideal world, you'd have a bunch of talented 4th and 5th year lineman, along with the rare super stud 2nd/3rd year guy, rolling into your OL year after year. You can mold them into the type of blocker that fits your system.
But that's not we're UM is at -- the problem for 2013 and 2014 is that "we're so young." If that's recognized as a problem, there are other ways to fix it than looking at the clock and wishing it were 2015.
|3 weeks 16 hours ago||Thanks for the details||
I appreciate it.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||UM could figure it out||
UM also didn't used to pay for asst coaches. Now we do. Michigan Stadium didn't used to have suites b/c we wanted everyone to have the 'same' experience. Now we do.
Plus, we have had Jucos in the past - Russell Shaw (#2 WR on 1997 team) and Austin Panter (mid-2000s; didn't do much when here, but he got into the school) to name a couple off the top of my head. So it's rare, but it's possible.
Again, look at those schools that are getting the Juco recruits - it includes Texas, which is a school every bit the "Public Ivy" that Michigan is, and Texas A&M is just a step behind.
So, unless someone from the admission department can explain to me how they can let in high school students with ACT scores and GPAs that wouldn't get in without football, and can't figure it out for ANY Jucos, I'll take as the "fact" that UM is still stuck in its ways that we do Jucos as an after-thought/very last resort. And the facts show that this year's OL (and very likely 2014's) deserved some (for Michigan) out-of-the-box thinking. It doesn't look like we're even trying for these recruits.
Meantime, we handicap ourselves for no good reason, and Alabama (home of 2 of the last 3 Academic All-Americans of the Year), FSU, OSU, etc will continue to be far ahead of us in the rankings on a consistent basis.