|3 days 47 min ago||Yeah, not 9 years old, but definitely 9th graders||
I have a very hard time believing 2nd graders are using PEDs. However, once they are in middle school or high-school? For sure.
For example, this study says 4.5% of 9th-graders have used steriod pills or shots without a prescription. And that's not including/considering other PEDs (e.g., Adderral).
If we have Rivals, 24/7, Scout etc ranking/sorting athletes as soon as they get to 6th or 7th grade (if not earlier), you can bet plenty of parents and kids are going to consider what they need to do to move up in the rankings and stay "competitive" to get that scholarship/make that team/etc.
|3 days 2 hours ago||What? Where did you hear that?||
I don't understand what you mean that a non-athlete JUCO isn't on track for 4-year degree when starting at UM. I've had friends who transfered from Delta CC and WCC (after two years) and graduated in 4 years, and I don't recall them having to do anything special (beyond passing 60 credits worth of classes their junior and senior years, like normal).
Do you have a link that shows how this does or doesn't work?
|1 week 2 days ago||Playing time||
That's what he lost.
There's only so much you can do in practice. Game speed/effort is where you see where you weaknesses are, and practice is where you improve upon them (generally speaking).
The season is half over, and he's essentially wasted away on the bench b/c the T-Wolves need practice bodies. I'd argue he'd have gotten better, instead, playing 30-35 min a game against top-level college competition while also learning from John Belein.
And while I suppose you can argue that, I would assume playing copious game min, as the leader of an NCAA-bound team (which UM surely would be if GRIII were in A2), would be a lot more fun. A great experience that you never can get back -- college ball only comes around once. So I would assert he lost that.
|1 week 2 days ago||GRIII made a huge mistake, unfortunately||
And that's not Captain Hindsight. He was basically relying on two teams (Spurs, OKC) to pick him and when that didn't work out, he was off to the second round, where NBA teams do not care much about the player. If you're not basically guaranteed as a first round pick, you should not come out early, esp if you don't need the money for your family and you have a chance to be the leader of a prominent team.
His current professional situation could not be worse: he literally has not scored one point this season in a game which the Timberwolves has won. Not a single one. That's b/c he's played in 1 game in which they won, and 16 games in which they have lost (average 1.4 per game).
The T-wolves haven't sent him down to the D-Leauge, where he could actually develop and show his skills to other teams, b/c Flip Saunders said they need bodies for practice.That's got to be very frustrating.
Hopefully he can get his release from there after the season and get on a team that actually needs him.
|1 week 3 days ago||Great video||
Guy looks like a non-drunk version of Jonathan Winters.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Because his game is||
Because his game is NBA-ready?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||That's it||
I'm blaming Shane Morris' concussion on you. It's all connected, somehow.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Wait a minute||
You taught Horford in a class, and now you have a contact at his new school who is knowledgeable about the weed quality there? You are one connected dude.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||He's not an NBA player||
He's not nearly athletic enough to play in the NBA, nor is he anything special in terms of size. That leaves skill, and he's never demonstrated NBA-level in that area (e.g., jump shot).
All that said, he still is screwing up. He definitely has enough skill/size to meaningfully contribute to a top college program. I didn't understand why he left UM, but I assumed it was b/c he saw a better opportunity to play/lead at Florida. Based on his actions, that's what opportunity he is blowing.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Don't jump off a bridge, yet||
UM's lone 2016 recruit is very likely going to be at least 7-feet (still growing, and all). Heck, the most recent game report from his local newspaper says, "“It was a great feeling,” 7-foot Medina center Jon Teske said..." so it looks like we're already there.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||At least he's not making excuses about injuries this time||
And what the heck is "the history of me"? Did he refer to himself in the 3rd-person elsewhere in his comments?
I'm getting a whiff of desperation around Tom these past few years. I think he sees his program (which was truly Top 5 elite 5-10 years ago) falling a bit behind and he's not sure how to fix it.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Why doesn't he have a Wikipedia page?||
I just checked, and the only Jim Hackett is a baseball player from 1902. For James Hackett, it's a ship builder from the 1700s.
The man was CEO of a major corporation for a long time, and now (more importantly) is the Michigan AD who successfully pulled off the coaching coup of the new century.
I don't have a Wikipedia log-in, but I'm sure someone on mgoblog does. Someone create this man a page -- he deserves to be recognized on Wikipedia.
|4 weeks 2 hours ago||Finally, a CEO correctly applying CEO skillz||
After Brandon took some of the worst qualities of a CEO (imperiousness, overemphasis on marketing, micro managing b/c he knew best), it's great to see a long-time CEO apply the skills that can make a CEO work in a college environment.
- He moved quickly, but wasn't in a hurry (e.g., I didn't get a sense, at all, UM was swayed by a few "leading" commentators saying, "What's taking so long?! Nebraska and Wisconsin already have a coach!"
- He correctly assessed the value of Harbaugh and didn't d*ck around with not enough money/years (if Harbaugh didn't come, it wouldn't be b/c of lack of money or control, but b/c he wanted to stay in the NFL)
- He locked down, as much as possible, the info coming out of the search.
- His couple of press conferences limited the corporate speak, and answered questions without giving away too much
I could go on. Just a wonderful job. And based on UM's past performance, quite unexpected.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Kawakami was reporting the Raiders wanted Kiffin fired||
Herrera (the Raiders exec) was saying Kawakami was a liar, and that no Raiders person had ever distributed an article to the press critical of Kiffin. (That's what that other woman was saying about that her paper's beat reporter had also got one).
FWIW, Kiffin was fired one week later. So I'm not exactly going to hold this against the reporter. Oakland is/was an insane organization.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Does this mean Ice Cube is||
Does this mean Ice Cube is going back to the jheri curl?
|6 weeks 4 days ago||"Neutralize"? I don't think so.||
I understand Graham is not having a year comparable to his most recent ones, but I just looked it up: he currently has 68 receptions and 9 Tds. That means he'll end up with 85 (or so) cataches and 11-12 TDs. That's still a big year.
Unless there is some background info we don't know about, Funchess will go in the first round. His body type and skills are what the NFL is looking for (see Ebron, Eric -- who went in RD1 last year with stats and a body type similar to Funchess).
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Would some people really be against Stoops b/c of the spread?||
If we don't get Harbaugh, we would be thanking our lucky stars if we got Bob Stoops. Go look at the man's record -- it's not Saban, but it's the next level below, and we haven't had anyone with that many wins, overall and over big time opponents (e.g., Alabama last year) since Bo.
I can't believe someone would complain if we got Stoops b/c he runs the spread. That would make my head hurt.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Really? Why is this? I think UM fball has failed here.||
I have been one of the people who have been constantly bewildered by the fact that UM football doesn't take 1-2 JUCOs a year, and people keep saying, "That's just not possible" b/c of U of M's transfer credit rules.
If so, how the heck did UM baseball get four out-of-state players? I know 3 are from CA, which tend (generalizing here) to be stronger academically, But overall, I don't understand why Purdue, Mich State, Florida, Cal-Berkeley, Indiana, UT-Austin, and Illinois are able to academically handle OL in 2013-2014 from JUCOs, but U of M somehow can't.
I have to think it is a (small) example of UM's "this is the way we've done things, so we'll keep just doing that" mentaliity that has failed UM over the past decade. Hoke et al in 2012 should have looked at the OL depth chart and thought a bit outside the UM box and figured out which JUCOs *could* get thru UM's process (they exist; they're not unicorns), and if anyone needed advising help, provide that assistance so they are taking the right classes.
We need to figure this out. We can do so and keep our academic standards. UM needs to use all the tools in the tool chest and not just dismiss options for players categorally every year w/o examining them closely.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||I love their tag line: "A Science College"||
It's their Google tag line. Do they think with a name like "University of the Sciences" people will think they are joking? "No, really...we focus on science. We're a science college."
Kind of a lame mascot though -- Devils, which is pretty generic. Could have gone with "Mad Scientists" or "Einsteins" or "Protons" or anything else science-related. The possibilites are endless.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||True - Harbaugh could be 3-5 year guy at UM||
It hurts to say that, but in the unlikely event we get him, there's no guarantee we keep him for a decade or more.
I could easily see him thinking "Hmmm....I need to get away from this jerk owner in SF, but I can't go anywhere in the NFL b/c of my contract. How about I go to U of M, kick butt there for a few years and if/when the L.A. Rams or Chicago Bears head coaching job becomes available, I'll do that and re-start my quest for a Super Bowl."
UM definitely needs their eyes open. If we're fortunate enough to get Harbaugh, this very well might not be his last gig b/c of the NFL. And I'd be fine with that, based on his pedigree and skillz.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||It's Saban vs Belichick -- who does Harbaugh want to be?||
First, there are plenty of statues of NFL coaches. Lombardi, Landry, Shula and Halas come to mind (I'm sure there's more).
More importantly, it's whether Harbaugh (or any coach) values more either the respect of his peers or the adulation of fans.
If it's the fans, college is hard to beat. You'll have alums and fans literally buying you a multi-million dollar house.
If it's fellow coaches, my strong suspicion is it's the NFL. It's the highest level in the sport and due to the salary cap, it's a more "fair" fight. Thus, my thinking is that if you asked 100 high school or college coaches who is the better coach, Saban (one of the 5 greatest Div 1 coaches of all-time) or Belichick (ditto for the NFL), they'd say Belichick. The way he's kept the Patriots at the top/near top of the NFL for close to 15 years, every year, in a league built to make it so that winners fall back to the pack (e.g., NFL draft, salary cap, evenly distributed TV money) would be more impressive to a coach.
I have no idea what Harbaugh values most. But my suspicion is that, if he had his choice, he'd stay with the NFL b/c he's such a competitor. It's the harder challenge.
That said, hopefully he comes to UM b/c he can't find an NFL job he wants (Raiders, anyone?). But we'll see.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Wow, he aced that||
I have no idea how the coaching search will go, which is the most important thing, but those were some excellent answers. Clear, empathetic, and also realistic.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||No kidding -- I thought his name was typo||
That dude's been there forever.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Wow, you're right||
I hadn't paid attention to Illinois' season, so I had no idea what their record was. That is sad, but true.
I'm off to listen to the Black Album.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Let's not get crazy -- Hoke won't be back||
I realize it's depressing that UM administration is (again) d*cking around, but there is no way Hoke is back. None.
To put it in business terms (which is the UM way): Hackett is a business man, a CEO. You don't bring back the person (Hoke) in charge of your most important product line if he has failed at his job, in multiple ways. It would have a serious negative impact on your entire organization, b/c revenue* would plummet. It's beyond wins and losses; there are tens of millions of dollars at stake.
Plus, Hackett has no ties to Hoke. He didn't hire him, so he won't feel bad about firing him, if the situation warrants -- which it 100% does.
*Seriously: how bad do you think season ticket and suite renewals would go if Hoke was brought back? I'd rather be on Hoke's recruiting staff right now than be a sales agent calling up season ticket holders for a Hoke-led 2015 season.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||"UM's current coaching staff is going on recruiting trips..."||
That unbelieavable quote is for all the geniuses who were posting yesterday that it wasn't necessary that Hoke be fired quickly.
What a waste of time, for all involved.
Fire Hoke, today. It's (past) time to move on.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Because Hoke is not going to be the coach next year?||
Is there anyone (recruits, players, fans, other coaches) who thinks Hoke will be the coach next year? No, there is not.
Therefore, the reasonable and decent thing to do is fire him. It has nothing to do with a "reality show", but is simply a recognition of reality. There is a difference.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||TV and arenas rules all||
You forgot we are playing in the "Progessive Legends Classic" and that there is a "Consolation Game" that has to occur beforehand at the Barclays Center, which is putting on this shindig. That's at 7:30pm on ESPNU, with our game to follow at 10pm on the Deuce.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||This shows the depth of the problem||
It's the huge canary in the coal mine. MSU football for the past ~4 years has been as successful as they could have ever hoped. Yet, they still don't sell out most games. Heck, these $3.50 tickets were available earlier this week, so it's not just a "gameday dump" thing -- there are/were literally hundreds of tickets available for less than $10.
And I'm not sure how they're going to fix it -- they've overexpanded the conference, overbuilt their facilities and are completely beholden to TV contracts.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||The leagues are going to have to look at it||
The timeouts are terrible. I recently went to a HS game (playoff) for the first time in years. Of course, there were no TV timeouts and it was a *much* better experience.
Now, I'm not expecting that for Div-1 football, but they've got to figure out a way to get the games to being about 3 hours. As it is now, if a game is competitive, 4 hours is more the case. And if that means there is 5-10% less ad "inventory" and thus 5-10% less money, they will have to figure out a way to make do. With pretty much every Power 5 school planning on spending literally hundreds of millions to expand their empires, they've got plenty of fat to cut.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Low stakes, low quality & bad weather equals low price||
Except for OSU the last few weeks and perhaps Wisconsin's running game, have you watched a single B1G game this year and thought, "Whoa, those guys are really good?" I know we joke about B1G football as two walruses smacking into each other, but the reality isn't a lot different these days. The skill players exist in small numbers.
I mean, if I wasn't a UM fan, I'd much rather watch Arizona-Utah (two ranked teams with good offenses that are still vying for a div title) than UM-Maryland (two thoroughly mediocre teams playing for the right to go to Quicklane Bowl).
Pair that with the fact it's been unseasonably cold for the past week, and most side streets are currently ice rinks (I skidded through one stop sign and also down one driveway this morning -- fun!), who's going to go sit outside and watch UM or MSU play teams 95% of its fans literally don't care about?
|9 weeks 1 day ago||There is a time for everyone||
Bobby Bowden was a more successful coach (in his sport) than even Red (seriously, go look at his record from 1987-2000 -- it is unbelievable). But FSU was high-class medicore for a decade b/c he was allowed to hang on to long. They finally eased him out and are back to a dominant program (and if you think that's just because of the Tallhassee police, I'm sure they were lenient on the players in the 2000s just like they are in the 2010s. They difference now is they have good coaching).
The program is floundering. This will very likely be the 3rd straight year w/o a NCAA tourney. It's time to move on.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||But those are assets that could be claimed in a bankruptcy||
His contract was "monetized" for $15 mil (minuses taxes). Jack has (apparently) over $10 million in debts. If those assets were bought with his money, presumably they could be sold to cover the debts, in part, but it doesn't appear to be the case.
Perhaps his parents, beyond blowing it on travel and houses, just spent much of it on the interest for these loans.
I know, from the story, Jack doesn't want to criminally go after his parents but it's still going to get ugly for his family during the bankruptcy proceedings. Before all that debt is forgiven, a judge and the creditors are going to know what happened to the money that was lent.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Ugh||
Sorry to hear that.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||What did his parents do with the money?||
Why were his parents taking out these multi-million dollar loans at such high interest rates? It says they "traveled" a lot, including to Jack's games, but that couldn't have cost that much unless they were traveling first class every time, staying at the Four Seasons and ordering the lobster tail. Even then, there still seems to be millions unaccounted for. His parents really worked him over.
Sad situation, but brings home an important truth: if you're an adult, trust no one (not your spouse, parents, 'trusted advisor') to solely take care of your money. It's your money - you need to regularly check-in and be involved.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Fair enough||
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Why? Marketing needs to be consistent.||
That has been their slogan for over a decade. It is how they position not just UMHS, but the whole university (i.e., you can go any where to be treated for depression, bipolar disorder or childbirth anxiety. Why should you go here? Because of "The Michigan Difference", i.e., we will do a better job than anyone else.")
And again, if you look at the whole brochure (which is only two pages), you'll see there is nothing confusing about it or implying that the "Michigan Difference" in that it causes or contributes to depression, bipolar disorder, etc.
I like Twitter (use it myself) but this is the kind of silly stuff it leads to. I still maintain there was nothing bad or mistaken about this.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Picture of sad painting? Why is that better?||
How is your pamphlet "better" and less "stupid"? A sculpture makes it seem less real -- a photo is more relatable. And your version still has the word "DEPRESSION" with "The Michigan Difference" on it, which a few people (I guess) seem to think makes it seem like UM causes you to be depressed. So how did you "fix" that?
Besides, the pamphlet doesn't just have what you listed; it has "University of Michigan Depression Center" in numerous places. That's the actual name of where you might go to treat it, which is the point of the brochure: letting students/UM employees know that this resource (the building and the website) exists at U of M. Look at the whole 2-page pamphlet -- it's clear.
BTW: Here's another pamphlet on "Bipolar Disorder" -- same layout. There are two pics which, in a tactful way, shows bipolar disorder often manifests itself in teens, but also can affect older people. And your race doesn't matter. It's all pretty standard; nothing real innovative, but nothing stupid or bad either.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||She must give herself one hour, max, to prep & write her column||
A week ago, she wrote about how the Pistons should "come home" to Detroit, based on the fact that she attended a Pistons game for the first time in years and saw that few people were there (newsflash!) and the crowd wasn't "joyful" (understandable, when you're watching Josh Smith chuck 3-pt bricks).
She literally "doesn't know where the Pistons are in the standings", but thinks they should move downtown, as that would get people to come. Perhaps if she had done 10 minutes of research, she would have seen attendance went into the tank when the team's W-L record also plummeted.
And I don't even like going to the Palace -- too far (for me) and its parking lot is terrible. But if the Pistons were 55 game winners again, people would go to Auburn Hills. And if they are/were 25 game winners, they won't go to downtown Detroit.
It was really embarrassing. I felt dumber for having read it. I hadn't read anything by her in a few months (b/c of previous bad experiences) and I sure am not going to read her "hot take" on Frank Clark.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||A depression pamphlet for a depression center: bad idea?||
I mean, I get it. We're all "depressed" UM not only is bad at football, but has incompetents in adminstrative positions.
But as someone who has spent a good deal of time in waiting rooms at UMHS, they have pamphlets on every topic; they have for years. I'm sure they make these available at other places around campus. To make the pamphlets clear about what they contain, they tend to have simple titles -- "Depression", "Obesity", "Down's Syndrome", etc -- that are easy to see & identify across a room. They all have "The Michigan Difference" at the bottom. Should all these be changed too, so we (apparently) don't think UM causes obesity? If so, how would you change it? With brochures, simpler is better -- you're trying to catch someone's eye.
It clearly is identified as being for a UM medical center at the top; "The Michigan Difference" is UM's long-standing tagline (e.g., that great ad where they have the girl with the robot arm, the little boy in the tub with the surgey scar on his chest) and is used frequently for UMHS to show how they can help you, http://michigandifference.org.
I understand UM has screwed a lot of things up. But I think this out-of-context "ha ha" is undeserved. I can't see how it was a "bad idea."
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Bonus points if you know how to correctly pronounce that||
(I didn't until I was reading a children's book to my nephews about the origins of Halloween about 5 years ago)
|10 weeks 2 days ago||I think it's closer to UNC than you think||
First, as noted by Don above, it's not true all you need to get into UM School of MTD is a kick butt performance tape; you need "traditional" academics as well.
Second, regarding UNC: while Brian isn't suggesting the LSA classes they take on the side be UNC-like shams, he is suggesting spending 40 hours at football "is" the education. That is the football players field of study. I'm not sure how much more rigorous it can get -- what "theory" classes would they cover that they aren't now? Honestly, I don't know.
And again -- I'd need to see someone really think through how employers/grad schools/society would value the degree. A football team has close to 100 people on it and there are over 100 FBS schools. There are thousands more playing football in FCS.
Contrast that with the roughly 45 schools of dance with probably 50 students in each school; there aren't more b/c having more the market/society hasn't demanded it. Would there be jobs for those 10,000+ "football" majors? We know the NFL/CFL/etc only takes a fraction. Would accreditating bodies shut down this degree if job placement stats are too low?
|10 weeks 2 days ago||So we should go the North Carolina route?||
Essentially, that's what UNC did. It wasn't accredited and was done on the sly, but those sham academic classes existed b/c the athletes were too busy with football, basketball etc -- in essence, their "real" field of study.
Beyond that, how would future employers (i.e., not the NFL or other football leagues) react to a "BA in Football"? I would assume sales organizations would be excited (as they are already -- athletes are typically self-starters, outgoing, hard working) and a few others, but what would happen if "job placement" was bad? Would a school shut down it's "football department" b/c it's degree wasn't valued, even if they did fine on the field? My guess is they wouldn't.
Additionally, what about the (presumably) thousands of athletes who are more typical students -- who literally go to Michiga to get a (traditional) education? Would they be forced by their coaches to say, "You know, if you really cared about the team, you'd drop this engineering nonsense. That way you could spend more time in the gym"?" For sure, they would. They already feel that pressure now, but I assume it would be immense in the future. I'm not sure I'm OK with that.
Interesting idea, but I'm not sold yet.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||I'm in for Stoops. BTW, he's more Bo than Carr||
First, I'm in on your ranking. I literally was thinking that this morning (with the caveat I have both Harbaughs at #1, though I think both are unlikely).
Second, Stoops is more like Bo than Carr, as he has many more Top 10 finishes than Carr. Stoops' problem over the last decade was his 0-5 run in BCS bowls (similar to Bo's tough run in Rose Bowls). Stoops really didn't break it until last year (I'm not counting his win over an 8-3 UConn team in the 2011 Fiesta) when he beat Alabama -- a huge win which must be seen as a fluke or something, b/c it seems to be forgotten when Stoops and Saban/SEC West is brought up.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Those were awful -- "L.A. Steel"||
You couldn't read the numbers and, unlike our Outback Bowl nonsense, that couldn't be blamed on the sun. Additionally, why would UCLA take their traditional unis -- which are classic and signify So Cal with their sky blue and gold colors -- and make them washed out gray? It's the supposed to make them look tough?
As a bonus, the name of the color schem, "L.A. Steel" sounds like it's out of Zoolander.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||Yes, I'm rooting for UM the last 3 games with no worries||
I think there are some people who actually afraid to root for UM to win these last 3 games b/c if we do, then Hoke will be retained.
Hoke won't be kept, for the reasons Brian has laid out, so I'm hoping we go 7-5 and then dominate the 7th-place ACC team (or whatever) in the Beef O'Brady's Bowl (or whatever). Whether we go 4-8 or 8-5, more change is coming. Firing Brandon has assured that, as no new AD is going to want to keep a damaged, unaccomplished coach over bringing in "their" guy.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||Your math is off||
Odds of beating:
- Northwestern are 65% (I'm being optimistic, as they seem to be imploding)
- Maryland is 50% (again, I'm being generous, but this time just for kicks)
- Ohio State is 5% (at most)
Put all that together, you're looking more like a 1 in 3 chance.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||Bursley is correct||
Here's the latest (as of 9:30am Eastern)
|11 weeks 4 days ago||Max not going to the Yankees was the NY Daily News||
Here's the report:
If you look at it, it makes sense. People think "Yankees=rich" but they are already up against the luxury tax, have A-Rod and his $20+mil salary coming back on the books this year, and have holes everywhere (e.g., replacing Jeter). They don't remotely have the budget to spend the close to $30 mil/year and $175+ million overall that it will take to get Max. Neither do the Tigers, for that matter (now that they have Price), so Max is going somewhere, just not Detroit or NYY.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Devin's hurt toe might explain quite a bit||
Perhaps I'm over identifying, but as a person who has hurt his toe, you tend to run/walk like an old man a good portion of the time if it is really bothering you. Perhaps that's why his speed/separation/effort seems to have noticeably declined as the season has gone on.
Of course, not sure exactly what type of injury it is and/or if you should be able to "play through it". But assuming Devin goes pro (which I am assuming) he may be able to point to this injury as the reason for his relative lack of productive and seeming lack of effort on a significant amount of plays, and thus still go in the first round.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Why not? He was very good (for his time)||
When he played, in the mid/late 80s, UM did not throw the ball much (nor did any previous UM team). Still, by the time he retired, he was third all-time in receptions (behind Carter and Mandich) and second in yards (Carter).
And FWIW, he had a decent NFL career as well, which shows he had a high-level of talent.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||But where did the resources for that help come from?||
The fans and non-football alums.
It makes complete sense Mealer is grateful to all the AD staff that helped him and his brother. But where did all the money come from for all that staff and resources? That's what he doesn't get -- the "muggles" are the ones who allow their magical land of huge student-athlete support to exist.
To put it another way: if Mealer had been signed to play football at Albion or EMU, and a similar tragic situation happened, there would not have been the staff, resources or money at Albion to do all the things that helped him and his family. Not remotely. And that's not b/c the AD of Albion is any more (or less) thoughtful than David Brandon & co.
So "the fans" helped plenty.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Oh, these are (now) are real thing||
As you might imagine, anything that iconic having to do with Christmas can be bought, now that there is internet commerce.
I don't know how long this site has been available, but a work friend of mine got one of these a few years ago (the desktop version, not the $230(!) four foot tall(!) version). Fun was had by all when he brought it in.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||And who's part of the Bill Walsh coaching tree?||
|12 weeks 4 days ago||College and NFL are only more comparable recently - $$||
Not in terms of talent (obviously), but in terms of salary & perks.
In the past, a top NFL coach not only would be competing at the highest level of the sport (a big draw for competitive guys) but also would get paid a factor of 2 or 3 times as much. Thus, a successful NFL coach leaving for college would be taking a big step down in not only competition but in money (plus, they'd have to recruit and suck up to 17-year olds). Who would do that? No one, by choice.
However, colleges have started to drop the pretense that coaches shouldn't get paid a *lot* more than any one else on campus, and salaries have soared. It used to be something notable if a college coach made $1 mil. Now, at a big program, you have to pay much more than that (e.g., Saban, who makes $6 mil, not counting perks like the boosters who just paid for his $3 mil house). Heck, Bret Bielema makes more than $5 mil a year! That's more than Jim Caldwell.
Thus, if a successful NFL coach wants to consider college, one barrier has fallen away. Past examples are fine, but aren't as relevant, b/c the environment has changed. Jim Harbaugh will make $6 mil-plus at his next coaching gig, whether it is the NY Jets or UM Wolverines. That's couch cushion money for guys like Stephen Ross.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||Yes, B1G is terrible -- which makes UM being bad even sadder||
The only MSU team of recent vintage I've been impressed with was last year's team, which had an excellent defense and a competent offense, which is a recipe for big success in any conference. But beyond that? More B1G high-class mediocrity.
They had their chance against Oregon (literally the only impressive team they'll play this year) and got beat by 20. The next best team, OSU, lost to Va Tech and need multiple bad calls to beat Penn State team we beat a couple of weeks ago.
All that said, many things look like giants to an ant. UM is likely to have another losing record in this worst-in-the-Power 5 conference. That's the sad thing. It would be one thing to go 2-6 in the SEC or Pac 12. But in the B1G? Horrendous.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||One of my fave all-time scenes, but I see Hoke more as Fredo||
I mean, look at that quote. If Hoke finally lost it at a press conference, I can definitely imagine him saying something along those lines. Then, after that, he'd go on the proverbial fishing boat and never be heard from again.
Brandon is more like Barzini. Thinks he's in control, that his clever plan for expansion is foolproof and he's willing to get rid of anyone that doesn't make the most amount of money. But really, he's not the smartest guy in the room, doesn't truly understand the culture he's a part of (e.g., Barzini to drugs is like Brandon to marketing/selling every aspect of fandom) and he can be removed from the situation -- as hopefully Schlissel is Michael.
And yes, I just did compare our new prez to a cold-blooded mob leader. These are dark times, but this is the business we've chosen.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Agreed -- just a sideshow to the main event -- UM fball stinks||
How motivated do you have to be to beat UM football over the last seven years? The list of programs that have done so, a few consistently, is quite long. Whether we did/did not show proper respect to Utah, Toledo, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Miss State etc etc -- is not a story or relevant because the main point is numbingly the same -- we are generally not good at football.
But when the MSU game comes along, it can be spiced up in the telling, b/c re-hashing the same story is boring. Thus, taking umbrage at every perceived slight is a contributing reason for MSU winning and UM losing. Unfortunately, it actually isn't. Stake or no stake, UM typically loses in football to MSU. Because that's what we do these days against *any* halfway decent football team.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Double||
|13 weeks 3 days ago||Go watch Jimmy Graham "block"||
He barely does it. Even with that, he just signed a 4 yr/$40 mil contract.
Many "tight ends" are just oversized wide receivers now (or just plain 'ol wide receivers). Blocking is nice, and valuable, but being able to catch, run and jump with your big body is more important.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||Notice Mr. Tappan was long gone when these two came around||
It was literally over his dead body.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||We're not a #1 option for Jim Harbaugh||
Jim Harbaugh has made it pretty clear he is an ultra-competitive guy. People he loves (his brother) and hates (Pete Carroll) have a Super Bowl, and all evidence is that he wants one.
If SF doesn't win one this year, it seems he will be fired (due to issues with the front office). Harbaugh will then have his pick of NFL jobs, such as Oakland, Miami, and perhaps both New York jobs.
Unless Jim wins a Super Bowl this year AND decides to go out "on top" (seems very, very unlikely to me), he won't be coming to Michigan, regardless of whether DB is here. Why would Jim? Because he played here 30 years ago? He hasn't (with the huge exception of Bo) exactly expressed love with the program since then.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||AD yes; coach no||
You are completely right on the AD. People got WAY ahead of themselves regarding the regent meeting, but I still think unless Brandon resigns (which is possible, but I doubt his ego would let him) he will be here in 2015. He makes too much money to pay off, has support of big bucks Ross, and has support (as noted) from the coaches.
Hoke, OTOH, is absolutely gone unless we win out. There is no way David Brandon is going to want to try and sell tix next year for a Hoke-coached team that just went 7-5 or worse and lost to MSU and/or OSU again. He showed he is willing to throw Hoke under the bus during the Shane Morris thing. He will certainly do it after this season unless Hoke somehow gets this team to 9 wins (which has literally about a 1% chance of happening).
|14 weeks 5 days ago||I can understand, but I actually didn't -- timing is too weird||
I mean, why would he transfer now? It's not like he can leave tomorrow, and go sign up for Rutgers, Penn State, OSU, whatever, next week. He would have to sit out the season, without access to proper training equipment, trainers, meals, etc. Anyone who transfers does so in December or in early January -- after classes and after the season
Not to mention -- I know he's a football player, but he's still a student, right? Why drop out in the middle of the semester unless there is a serious issue (and by "serious", I mean "death in the family", not "disagreement with coaches")?
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Yes, he has two sacks||
And if you're thinking about the last play of the game, he was near the the QB, but I believe the other person got the sack. There also was another play that he got the QB for a 1-2 yard gain.
Regardless, BG is having a good year -- and he need to, as he was concerned he would be cut coming out of training camp. He regularly grades out high for Eagles defensive players, so hopefully he keeps it up.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||I'm sorry, but that's plain crazy||
I will find whatever lemons and other citrus Brian has not eaten if Brady Hoke is here next year if we lose to OSU and MSU. Why on earth would UM keep someone who can't come close to winning the worst Power 5 conference in the country, can't beat our main rivals and not to mention got thrown under the bus by his AD during the whole Shane Morris debacle.
He may have goodwill with some former players, but he certainly doesn't with the fan base. I'd stop listening to former players -- their insularity and focus on a "Michigan Man" (as opposed to, you know, the actual best man for the job) helped get us into this predicament in the first place.
I too hope we beat MSU, but I'm also going to deal with reality.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||It just wouldn't work - the narrative needs to change||
There is 0% Hoke comes back if they lose to osu and msu. 0%. At best, UM would be 6-6 and play in some low-rent bowl which no one would care about.
The off-season would be down right hostile, and if you think UM Athletic Dept had to come up with some crazy gimmick promotions for this year, try selling a team that went 6-6 two years in a row, can not beat its biggest rivals, yet for some reason kept the same coach.
|15 weeks 14 hours ago||Really?||
Was that b/c you were as drunk as Bill Murray is in that picture? I want to party with you, cowboy.
Wile did a great job, and deserves praise for this game, but based on past performance and the simple fact he's a college kicker, I did not consider his FGs (none of which were chip shots) to be "relaxing."
|15 weeks 14 hours ago||I blame the "Michigan fan" more||
GIlmore is going to relate a story that makes the telecast interesting. Wish it wasn't that way, but that's the way it is.
But that so called "fan" is the worst. It reminds me of one of the worst experiences in my UM fandom, when watching the the UM-ND away game at a house party (a big one; didn't know many of the people), and more than a few "Michigan fans" wanted us to lose b/c they didn't like RichRod and his running QB. I wanted to punch them right in the face.
In any case, due in no small part to their (lack of) support, they got their wish. And here we are, soon to begin another coaching search.
|15 weeks 14 hours ago||Nothing personal...||
...but you posted twice, plus based on my avatar, so I am duty-bound to neg you.
|15 weeks 14 hours ago||Was that the announced attendance?||
Interesting. On the telecast, they said "109,000". Not sure where they got that from.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Yep, the wagons are being circled||
As much as I'd like to read into it that DB is gone, I think the most "Michigan" thing (based on past performance) is to circle them up and defend the block M (as they see it).
I hope I'm wrong, but I still think (unless DB out-and-out quits, which would shock me) that DB will be here in 2015.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||Not going to neg you, but there is talent there||
Take JMFR. Per knee, he looks like the second coming of Clay Matthews. Now he is well past his knee surgery, and he really doesn't look all that special -- is that scheme? Is that coaching? Is he still affected by injury?
|15 weeks 3 days ago||I'm not sure if Hoke thinks that much of Devin||
Hoke has obviously lost a lot of faith in DG. Some of that is understandable, based on his performances against ND and Utah, but he still has gone way overboard (e.g., starting an obvioulsy not ready Morris against Minn, and for whatever refusing to put DG in at the half when Morris was failing).
The FG is just another example of that -- he thought his kicker (who really hasn't done much, and had a bad game against ND) was a better option DG with the game on the line. I think that's foolish, but it shows Hoke does not have faith in DG.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||In the what, now?||
I seriously have never heard of this.
Apparently it's another attempt at a minor league (beyond college), which makes sense (I guess) as the NHL, NBA and MLB have them.
But why would you teams in Brooklyn, Boston, Florida and Omaha? Put them all within driving distance, for pete's sake.
Beyond that, I more seriouisly surprised Gallon hasn't caught on with an NFL team. I can't believe someone with his quicks, hands and hops can't make a roster.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||I like this idea||
Ypsi guy, went to MSU, coached for the Lions (but not long enough to be defined by them) and has a bit of college experience at LSU under the best college coach of the era, Saban.
While I'd love (of the college guys) to get someone who has been an HC before (esp b/c so many of our problems have been "communication", which starts from the top, and setting the course of the program, e.g., modern offenses and punting formations), but of the group above, the only one I like is the CSU guy, and he is a) from Montana and b) would need to have a 10-win season this year to be an option.
Thus, a pro guy would be a nice option. Are there any quotes from Manning or the Thomas "brothers" about how wonderful Gase is? That would be great.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Twin Peaks is very hard to compare||
Which is what is so great (and sometimes so flawed) about it.
It's pretty easy to compare Breaking Bad to the Sopranos to Boardwark Empire to The Wire, etc as they are similar shows -- gritty, well-scripted dramas (with some humor), realistic violence, with compelling anti-heroes and villians.
Go search on YouTube for "twin peaks dwarf agent cooper" and watch those 7 minutes and 17 seconds and compare it to those shows. Sure, some of them had dream sequences (e.g., Sopranos) and some left-turns, but none of them were that completey unnerving and weird. You don't know whether to laugh or cry.
I don't know if the new episodes in 2016 will be good, but I am sure they will be interesting. I am in.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||He can't even get his gobbledegook answers right||
His answer about Drake Johnson (which was a good question about why we haven't seen him so far) was sheer nonsense:
“Well, I think we talk about compete and challenge and there's always that. Not that he wasn't competing or challenging but as you go through practice and the execution of everything, we just thought needed [to be] cleaned up a little bit.”
Sentence one: Drake is not competing or challenging, which would indicate a lack of effort or committment.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||You are limiting your playbook -- we need every option||
The whole point of the "quick" QB sneak is that it is quick. You are trying to do it before the defense is set. It is more effective than a regular sneak, esp if your OL isn't great at driving people off the ball (i.e., U of M), b/c if you do it quickly enough, your OL is not blocking a DL or LB who is ready.
So that *was* the best play they thought to attack the defense. It didn't work, but it was reasonable. Just as a play-action pass play which, if it didn't work, would have also left much more time on the clock.
And your hypothetical question doesn't apply to UM -- they score so few points, I want them to run whatever play, at whatever tempo, they think will give them best chance at 6 pts. If all else is equal, for sure, run the clock under 5-8 secs, but again, pass plays stop the clock if they don't work and I would have been completely fine with a pass on second down.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||But that's the end point of his complaint||
Of course he wants Michigan to score. But his complaint is that they left too much time on the clock. If that's so important, they should have a) not ever considered passing the ball (too risky to have an incomplete) and b) been sure not to score until 3rd down.
Since we know Brian (and numerous other people who brought this up) don't think that, I'm not sure what they wanted. The only way we would have gotten to the ideal state (Rutgers having about 1 minute left) would have been, starting at first and goal, to both a) call all running plays with less than 5 secs on the clock and b) wait until 3rd down to score. That's not reasonable as "a" takes away play-action (which would have been a reasonable play call) and "b" is not something they want -- UM wants to score on first down, if possible. If not then, let's score on 2nd down.
UM scored at the end of the half. They did fine.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||I don't get you not getting the end of the first half||
I don't get this -- Rutgers easily got the ball down the field and even with the "28 seconds" gone, still would have had at least two plays, goal to go.
But that aside, we do realize it is UM's offense, right? The one that has had severe scoring issues? They don't have the luxury of bleeding the clock to zero if doing so allows the defense to be set. Running a hurried QB sneak in a short-yardage situations is an actual, common play. New England runs it all the time (ran it just last night with Brady) -- you try and catch the defense when they're not set and sneak/push your way in with your big/tall QB.
And follow the logic -- it seems to indicate Michigan shouldn't have tried to score on the Gardner sneak -- after all, that would have left too much time on the clock. If they would have instead let 25 seconds more off the clock and then Gardner had actually scored (and we're OK with them trying to do that, right?), Rutgers would have had even more time remaining.
UM's offense is not nearly good enough to wait until 3rd down to try and score -- their entire focus was (and should have been) on whatever plays they thought would score 6 pts, each time. If it bled clock as well, bonus.
The score at the end of the half by Rutgers is on the UM defense, which based on Saturday's performance, would have found a way to give up a score with 1:13 or 1:43 left.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||I think 3-9 is more likely than 2-10||
Even in 2008, we somehow pulled it together to beat Minn. I would think there would be one game, at least, where we'd play pretty well while also getting the call/get a gift interception/something where we'd win.
But I'm not going to spend much time thinking about. Bad is bad.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Scoring a TD is the primary objective - a quick QB sneak is fine||
Agreed. Running a hurried QB sneak in a short-yardage situation is an actual, common play. New England runs it all the time (and in fact just ran it an hour ago against the Bengals at the goal line) -- you try and catch the defense when they're not set and sneak/push your way in.
With UM's paucity of points these past games, their entire focus was (and should have been) on whatever plays they thought would score 6 pts. If it bled clock as well, bonus. BTW, for the next play, they DID bleed clock, running the Smith play with less than 10 secs on the game clock.
The score at the end of the half by Rutgers is on the UM defense, not Brady Hoke's clock mgmt. He's got enough evidence of not knowing what he is doing without coming up with something that I don't think has real merit.
|16 weeks 1 hour ago||Only if we don't get obliterated by MSU||
I know people think "well, it can't get much worse", but if we lose, say, 49-3 MSU (which is a distinct possibility), I think Hoke could be fired then. It's one thing to get beat by Minn or Rutgers. Getting the absolute stuffing kicked out of us by MSU will amp it as high as it can go (or low, depending on your perspective).
But if we lose 30-10 or 27-7 (or whatever), then at 7 losses is defintely the earliest.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Solich is a great example||
Not just the age (he is now 70, in his tenth year at Ohio U), but in what difference a good coach can make. Ohio was basically EMU in terms of football before he got there, and now they regularly go to bowl games. Granted, those bowl games usually have the name "Beef O'Brady" or "Famous Idaho Potato" in them, but it's still a real accomplshment. He's even won 3 division titles.
Like Miles, he is from the area of the country his new school was in, so he "got" the culture, put in his system, and pretty quickly he was on his way.
Miles is absolutely not too old for the job. Whether the AD in 2015 (which, unfortunately, I think will be Brandon) will hire him....
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah, we look we have ankle weights on||
I was the UM-Minn game last week, and I spent a good portion of the time on offense just watching our receivers, to see if anyone was open. Typically, they weren't and if they were, Shane was looking/throwing the other way. Funchess was particularly depressing, as he was clearly well below 100% and looked like just another guy. It was very frustrating.
Meanwhile, on the very first drive for AZ, Jesse Palmer is talking about how a RS FR QB (i.e., same age as Shane) is choosing btw 3-4 options (incl running) on every play, and even a dope like me can see "Yep, that guy's open...but so was that guy in the flat...but he could have also gone over there" and so forth. It was like switching btw "Rookie" and "Madden" level.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||It's nice to talk about a successful football team||
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. After watching the recent editions of UM football, watching teams like Arizona and Oregon is like stepping into the sunshine. People getting open; breaking tackles; numerous plays that make you say "Ooh, that was clever -- he was WIDE open."
So I'm glad for RR. If him going 0-5 would make us 5-0, I'd take it in a heartbeat. But if his success away from UM helps put another nail in the "can't win with the spread' (or any type of modern football)" coffin for all the UM stuck-in-the-mud types, so much the better.
If there any AZ or RR threads next week, that's problem. But for now, it's better than talking about the debacle (on and off the field) that is UM football.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Don't let the fans off the hook||
A large majority of the fans, from students to alums, wanted RR gone--no matter who the replacement was, just get somebody else. Not to mention a number of former players. Beyond valid complaints (e.g., poor defense; struggling in red zone; losing to rivals), it was a "culture" issue. They hated the spread. They hated that we were "soft." They hated the running QB. They hated the coach's diction.
It was a tough time, as RR's teams were improving, but not fast, and it would have taken some vision and patience to give RR (+Casteel, as we finally would pay for assistants) a 4th year. But UM fans (in general) didn't want that; they wanted to "get back" to "real" football.
So, here we are. Our slow, stuck in 1990s, real football team is 2-3, and on a fast train to Palookaville.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Bradon, yes. Hoke....||
Yes, Brandon (with the support of the big-money guys and his expensive contract) is here for 2015. I actually am more convinced of that now than I was two weeks ago. Sad, but true.
Hoke? If/when he goes 4-8 this year, Brandon will find that bus he threw him under when it was convenient at 1AM on Tuesday, but this time go all the way. Hoke is fired unless we somehow go 7-0 the rest of the way (so basically, he's fired). Getting everyone fixated on "Is it Harbaugh? What about Dan Mullen? Do you think we'd hire someone who ran the spread? Is it a 'Michigan Man'" will be a great distraction, and something to sell the fan base on (esp if he somehow gets a big name).
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Regents are to Prez, as AD is to Coach||
- The regents hire/fire the president.
- The AD hires/fires the coach.
The president can fire the AD. But he has to want to.
So, unless the regents are going to do something to the president (e.g., we will fire you unless you fire David Brandon), it really is up to Schlissel.
- And remember: contracts have to be taken into consideration. I am sure Schlissel has no desire to pay a fired David Brandon $10mil plus unless he absolutely has to.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||They're great, but not perfect - if they deserve blame, blame th||
They're a huge, huge organization. As such, they can make mistakes, some well-publicized (e.g., the resident with child porn; the nurse & doc who OD'd this year). Again, that doesn't mean the vast majority of the people there don't do great work the vast majority of the time. But they're human beings, and if some of their employees made a mistake on Saturday, it won't be their first or their last.
No one at UM is, or should be, a sacred cow.
All that said, I'm less than thriled I'm (on this part of this one point) agreeing with a man I think should be fired, but DB is right -- it's the med staff job to diagnose concussions, not Brady Hoke's. If that gores a "sacred cow," so be it.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Double||
|16 weeks 2 days ago||It can "ultimately" be the coach AND the doc||
Someone on the field has to be in charge -- if everyone is in charge, no one is.
Unless U of M has somehow become the first school in the country where a head coach (w/ zero medical training) can diagnose a concussion, the person "ultimately" responsible is the head trainer.
Across the nation, medical people were specifically put in charge of this b/c a) they are the ones who can properly diagnose it, b) they can focus solely on medical issues during a game (as opposed to the myriad other things a coach has to do) and c) they don't have a W/L record; they won't get fired if we go 4-8.
DB has completely screwed up Michigan's response to this, in many ways, and he is also responsbile for having a standard, but less than perfect (e.g., having someone in the booth, which I guarantee few schools do) system in place. But he's not wrong that it is up to the medical staff, not Hoke. That's how it should be. I don't want coaches determing if some kid who just got drilled in the head (or more challengingly, who just get tackled hard) is OK to play or not -- they have no medical training and the wrong incentives to make that decision.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Are we on the national news b/c of an ankle injury?||
No, because we let a player who should have been evaluated for a head injury back in the game w/o evaluating him. That's the national story.
The ankle injury might be a big deal to us, b/c it provides yet more evidence Hoke isn't a good coach (i.e., Morris wasn't successful before he injured his ankle; why would he be better after?), but the big deal is the head injury. That's why the AD, the president, a congressman, every radio host & blogger in the known universe is poking their nose in.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Confirmed: he watches with coordinators||
I know many people have said they heard this before, but here is an actual quote from Brandon and discussion of the process (at least from last year). From a Detnews article in 2013:
"Hoke appreciates the support he gets publicly and privately from Brandon. The athletic director and former Michigan football player said he attends one or two practices each week and watches film with both coordinators the day after every game.
“That’s always nice if you’ve got people who you work with that are positive,” Hoke said.
Brandon, the man who fired Rodriguez and hired Hoke from San Diego State, said it wasn’t easy to watch film of the game Sunday. He watched the offensive snaps with Hoke and coordinator Al Borges and the defense plays with coordinator Greg Mattison."
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Brandon definitely sits in on film sessions||
Now, is it with coordinator w/o Hoke? I'm not sure, but my guess is that's true b/c why wouldn't he, based upon these statements he's made (from Huge Show in 2010)? Only way he would NOT is if Hoke somehow stopped him (Brandon's comments below are from RR's last year).
""I'm going in those locker rooms before the game, during the game and after the game and practices, seeing how the team responds in difficult situations. Going over the game films and finding out exactly where the breakdowns occur and why they occur. I do that. I don't know if that's normal or not, but I understand, and I can tell you when it's real time? on television with the angles and such you don't get a real sense for what's happening. You almost have to play the play back five or six times to see where did we get it right and where did we get it wrong.
"I'm sitting in on film sessions and having the opportunity to really look at how the game's unfolding, because I want to know. It's a big part of our program. I tell people all the time, the University of Michigan athletic department cannot be successful unless Michigan football leads our success. Mark Twain once said, 'if you put all your eggs in one basket, you'd better watch your basket.' Football is our basket, so I watch it very carefully. That's my job, and I do that."
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Lots of good points, but don't agree on the 5-0 thing||
I think this goes to Brian letting the trainers/docs off too easy. We have seen plenty of evidence that Hoke is not good at his job (pre-Shane incident) and thus that UM football is not well-prepared, but I had no idea the trainers/MDs were not good at key aspects either.
Thus, even if Brady Hoke was (miraculously) good at his job and we were 5-0, if the same sequence of events happened (Shane Morris with inured ankle rolls out; throws ball down field; gets hit late in head; gets up shaky on his feet), the trainers still would have missed it. They missed the head shot. All of them. None of them did a concussion evaluation during the game. And thus Shane still would have been left in for one more play (and gone in for one more play later, after Gardner loses his helmet). At 5-0, Shane Morris still would have played with a "probable" concussion, b/c they didn't think he needed to be evaluated.
It was their job to hold any possible concussed players out. They have primary responsibility -- Hoke, Brandon and Schlissel agree on this. I mean, even in the MSU/Gholston situation, it was the MSU trainers who came up with "wind knocked out", not Dantonio; he was just saying what he was told by the medical experts.
|16 weeks 3 days ago||Name me a football team that does what you just said||
"The fact that somebody didn't immediately take him to see the medical staff is on the coaches and nobody else."
Which coaching staffs do that? I am asking. Who?
As I just noted above, MSU (just like U of M and I'm sure a ton of other teams) leave injury situations to the trainers/docs. That's why they are there; that's their job. They absolutely have the authority. No one -- not Hoke, Brandon or Schlissel -- has contradicted that.
|16 weeks 3 days ago||Dantonio's quotes from 2012 ; how diff are they than Hoke's?||
Out of curiousity, I looked at Dantanio's post-game quotes after Gholston "had the wind knocked out of him" (by a head shot, which of course connects to your lungs and causes you not to move for 15+ secs) in the OSU game. Key stuff:
"The protocol, first of all, is he needs to be cleared. Players have been knocked woozy before...Once they pass that (impact test), they're cleared. I would assume that our trainers and our neurologist did that on the sideline, passed him and cleared him."
Key word -- "assume." In other words, he left it -- just like Brady Hoke -- completely up to the training staff on the sideline. Once they told him it was "the wind knocked out of him", that was good enough for him. He had a football team to coach.
"Whether he was knocked out or whether he wasn't, I'm not sure because I wasn't out there. But I heard he was sort of stunned or something, maybe even had the wind knocked out of him even. I really wasn't sure on that. I just knew he got up, came off."
Again, just like Hoke, he had no idea what happened. Maybe Gholston had a concussion; maybe he didn't. In his mind, just like Hoke, it is up to the training staff to sort that out. Dantonio does what the training staff tell him, which is why Gholston played later that same game.
In general, I think Hoke and esp Brandon have handled the aftermath of this quite poorly (e.g., the Sunday press conference and the 1am statement release). But I also think Brian and the rest of the media have been far too easy on the neurologist and training staff. This was their job and they failed. Why shouldn't they be fired?
|16 weeks 3 days ago||I don't understand what Brian is saying here||
"Mandel goes on to say the stuff about 5-0 and we're defending the guy, and I mean… come on. If this happens to a successful coach it is a strike but not one that dooms a regime..."
- The first part, ending in "come on" seems to suggest that being 5-0 wouldn't make a difference, that UM fans would still be this ticked off (e.g., marching on people's houses). The second part seems to contradict that.
Can someone tell me what I'm missing?
|16 weeks 3 days ago||All I will say is this: Detroit Lions||
I don't agree with you--I think people will find a 38-3 loss to MSU a big deal and/or a bad loss to Penn State at home a big deal--but anything is possible at this point.
But all should note you just compared U of M football ("the winningest program in college football history") with the Detroit Lions, who are without a doubt the worst US pro franchise (in terms of on the field performance), in any of the four major sports, in the last 50 years. The absolute worst out of ~120 teams. The only one in the discussion is the Cubs.
We are in dark, dark times.
|16 weeks 3 days ago||Can't believe Hoke will make it through||
Think how up in arms the fan base is with 3 losses. If we are 2-6 or 3-5 (with a pounding by MSU), how bad will it be then? Our meltdowns will be having meltdowns.
I thought Brandon was a goner too, but after seeing his contract, I'm less certain. He may leave b/c it can't be much fun anymore, but only if UM pays him a big settlement (which would be politically dicey for all involved) and/or he has a sweet gig lined up elsewhere (which certainly won't be as an AD somewhere; perhaps Ross will hire him as "Director of Marketing and Pizza for the Miami Dolphins" or something).
|16 weeks 4 days ago||Got it||
I agree with that. I still think Hoke should be fired, but b/c he's a bad football coach. This year was his chance to show he had the program in the right direction, and even before the Shane incident, he blew it.
I just wanted to point out I think this "con" for Gundy makes him (along with the other reasons) part of the "pipe dream" area. He's not coming here for many, many reasons.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||Not sure if serious||
If you are, I'm not saying that all. Gundy (as opposed to Hoke) did have the advantage that he and his AD were on the same page. They issued statements that matched up saying "We do things the right way. However, we've formed a commission to look into it" and 'poof', it went away.
As noted elsewhere, no one at OSU cared b/c a) a few of these allegations were readily sketchy and b) much more importantly, Gundy is winning. That makes a lot of issues get swept under the rug.
However, if UM wanted to hire him, that rug will get pulled out -- so that's why I highly doubt (amongst other reasons; as noted, Gundy is an Okla. guy and has plenty of money there) Gundy is an option. I think it's more likely we get either of the Harbaughs (and I don't think that's very likely at all) than Mike Gundy.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||Of these, David Shaw; and Gundy has a big con||
As Brian noted, he checks off all the key boxes for the power-brokers, including man ball.
One big con for Mike Gundy is that whole SI story about academic fraud, paying players, etc. Some of that allegedly occurred before Gundy (hello Les Miles!) but some of it allegedly did. I know there was some sketchiness to the reporting, but it's not great that OSU's promised "intensive review" of the allegations by a top ex-NCAA official, which was kicked off in September 2013 still has produced nothing more than a year later -- not exoneration, not confirmation -- just nothing. So in effect their response was, "Hey, he's winning football games, isn't he?" Not sure that will fly at UM.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||Very little focus on how bad the team has been playing||
Understandable, I suppose, with the feeding frenzy. But UM is 2-3 and on a fast-train to not making a bowl. I know the "communication/concussion" situation is important and hard for everyone not to focus on, but I'm still depressed our team appears to be downright bad at football. Perhaps historically for UM bad.
Who knows? Maybe all this distraction from their performance will allow them to relax/focus/get angry/whatever and play much better, starting on Saturday. Not counting on it, but we can hope.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||The Louisville AD? Who re-hired Bobby Petrino?||
Tom Jurich is well-respected by many sporting types b/c he has built Louisville into a sports powerhouse (awesome in b-ball, respectable or better in football), while also getting them into the ACC.
However, he did just re-hire Bobby Petrino, he of the recent sex scandal / lying about it / misuse of university funds / hiring your mistress for a university job. And when the trustee of Louisville mentioned why they were OK with re-hiring Petrino, he said "College sports are a business, first and foremost." Which Jurich obviously agrees with, by hiring Petrino.
If we don't get Bates or Manuel, I sure hope we don't turn our eyes to Jurich.
|16 weeks 5 days ago||Yes, that neurologist should be called to account||
That's literally why he is there. He doesn't have to worry about substitution patterns, defensive fronts, play calls -- just player safety. That's his job, and Sat afternoon was a key time to do it.
From all accounts, he saw that he had a player with a possible head injury. And he somehow didn't take control of the situtation?
Unless someone stopped him from doing an evaluation and holding Shane out (and there's no evidence of that so far, but who knows, maybe a press release at 2AM tmrw will bring new info), that MD should not have a job with UM athletics -- he should be let go, along with Brandon and Hoke.
|16 weeks 5 days ago||Only partially good for the MDs; they missed the head injury||
Obviously it's very commendable on their part (and pathetic on the AD & aynone else) if the medical staff stood up to be sure the statement confirmed medically accurate, if embarrasing to UM, information.
However, why should they be let off the hook? Is it not the medical staff that has the primrary responsibility to ensure players with possible head injuries are properly evaluated and before that happens they do NOT get back into thte game? They somehow completely missed that. That's on them -- primary responsibility means it's their job, over Hoke, Nuss, etc. If it's everyone's responsibility, in big groups, it can be no one's responsibility.
There has--correctly, in pretty much everyone's view--been a big push to take the decision on who plays after possible head injuries away from coaches (who want you, generally speaking, to rub some dirt on it and get back in there) to medical staff, who have the proper training to assess the situation, are able to focus on injuries (as opposed to how in-game strategy should be handled) and (in theory) less pressure to re-insert into the lineup an injured player.
UM's medical staff, unless someone heard differently, failed Shane Morris on Saturday. I don't see how you can say any differently. I am 100% sure it was not intentional, but they did.
|16 weeks 5 days ago||Brandon not only sits in on||
Brandon not only sits in on film sessions, but on all medical evaluations. He's a hands-on guy.
|16 weeks 5 days ago||We essentially agree||
I am on board with what you are saying about grades, etc.
My simple point is that--today--many, many, many reputable organizations (including medical people) use the term "mild concussion" (e.g., I doubt the Reds are trying to avoid the Nightly News by using the term "mild concussion" to discuss Billy Hamilton's injury from 5 days ago)
Hopefully in the near future they will not use this term, due to education by all involved. But again, I think the focus is on UM's poor procedures (e.g., why didn't anyone tell Hoke that Morris might have had a concussion before his press conference?) rather than Brandon's utilizing the widely-used "mild" terminology.
|16 weeks 5 days ago||Not really -- "mild" is used all the time||
I agree with you that the field is evolving, but I'm not going to get on Brandon about this. I am 100% confident a medical person told him this, and the term "mild" is used--a lot--with concussions. Look, this is from the Aug 2014 issue of Neurology, one of the top journals in the field.
The American Academy of Neurology's brochure for patient education says that "A concussion is a mild, traumatic brain injury..."
There's numerous more examples.
I fully agree with you that in this case the term "mild" is not ideal, but it is a medical term. David Brandon (who has done enough bad things) didn't make up that term.
|16 weeks 5 days ago||#1 is not quite accurate||
You are certainly correct that any brain injury should be considered serious. But "mild brain injury" or "mild concussion" is definitely a term still in wide use. Consider:
...and just do a quick search in Google news for "mild concussion" and sports. You'll see all sort of organizations use the term (the MLB, the NHL, etc),
There's plenty to get on UM about in this whole matter. That term is still in wide use, in top medical journals, medical associations, and elsewhere, so I don't think this is one of them.
|16 weeks 5 days ago||And why wasn't this info released before Hoke's presser?||
If Brandon was trying to make Hoke look even more dumb/incompetent than he has on the sidelines, he couldn't have done a better job than this. Why wasn't this released at 1PM Monday instead of 1AM Tuesday? Way to get on top of things, Dave.
|16 weeks 5 days ago||Incompetence personified||
Why in the heck would you release a statement at 1am? Even if it has good info, people will discuss that timing and thing something is fishy.
Is the AD's office busy doing something else so important that they couldn't release this at a normal hour? Is he in Hawaii so it's really 6pm their time? Does UM email servers hold on to emails for hours before sending them along?
Dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. Dumb.
|16 weeks 5 days ago||Crying, hysterical Troy...||
...always good for a laugh, even in dark times.
|16 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah, that Morris picture is not being used properly||
Joegeo brings up a good point -- that picture (which has the "Look at this photo and tell me he is not concussed, TELL ME" part still on it, which I think it wrong) does not "prove" Morris had a concussion. I wish it would stop being posted/shown like it does.
After posting that picture along with that comment, Brian rightly noted later, the key to that picture is that Shane Morris needed to be properly evaluated for a concussion. That is what needed to happen and as far as anyone can tell, we haven't gotten a remotely satisfactory answer from UM on how a concussion test was conducted (if one was conducted at all).
Looking at a literal snapshot in time is NOT how you can tell if someone has a concussion. It literally takes minutes of time (e.g., looking at pupils, asking questions, doing physical tests and importantly, just sitting the person out for awhile to see if their symptoms change in the next few minutes). That can't be shown in a picture.
|16 weeks 6 days ago||Absolutely - it's way too early||
No NFL coach is going to express interest in another job while he has a current job, unless things are REALLY odd. I mean, both Harbaugh's are trying to win a Super Bowl -- that's going to take 100% of their time, not to mention the Ray Rice issue (John) and Ray MacDonald & Aldon Smith etc issues (Jim). They got enough on their plate without even more distractions.
I still think the odds are 1% or less for Jim and maybe 10% for John that'd they'd even be seriously interested in the job, so this "news" isn't a big deal for me. But I'm not ruling anyone out at this point.
|16 weeks 6 days ago||Excellent work. I need to||
Excellent work. I need to incorporate "Fosbury-flopping" into my everday lingo more often. Most people won't know what it is, but it's wonderful alliteration.
|17 weeks 3 hours ago||Yep, he will be fired this week||
This is just another small log on the raging fire. As I said yesterday, he was fired--within days--as soon as he made his straight-from-1994 comments about Shane having to take himself out in last night's presser. Completely clueless about modern player safety.
I mean, TIME magazine had a cover story just last week about a HS football player who died after suffering a brain injury on the field. That's just one of many. It's not like this is exactly under the radar stuff.
It's too bad. He deserves to be fired for Michigan's poor on the field performance (e.g., first time with 3 losses in Sept in the history of the program). But this player safety incident is going to be the huge straw that breaks the camel's back.
|17 weeks 3 hours ago||Why would the board of regents approve that?||
I liked Moeller as a coach. From all I can tell from afar, he's a good guy. But beyond Moeller's age, him being out of the coaching game for over a decade, and him (potentially) not wanting to undermine his good friend Hoke, why would the board of regents and Schlissel approve Moeller? Remember, Moeller was fired from UM twenty years ago. It was messy.
I mean, if Brandon comes to them and says, "We're going to fire Brady, and I want to replace him with Gary Moeller," you don't think they'd say "Wait -- didn't this university fire him for a drunken public behavior 20 years ago? Why do we want him representing the university? What's to say that won't happen again? You're telling me there's no one currently on staff, who we've already vetted and paid, to do this job for 8 games?" Etc.
That likely wouldn't be fair, b/c (as far as I can tell) Coach Mo wouldn't be risk for any incidents, but you've got to remember regents tend to risk-averse people. I would be shocked if they went for it.
|17 weeks 3 hours ago||Unfortunately, that very likely wouldn't work||
Gary Moeller is 73 years old. Much more importantly, he has been out of coaching for over a decade -- his last job was in 2003 for the Bears.
I think it would be unfair, to him, to ask him to step into the middle of a season when he has (literally) been out of the game so far. How could he get up to speed in reasonable amount of time?
I thought he was a very good coach during his time, but that time is over. If it wasn't, he'd still be coaching (or at least be an advisor) somewhere.
|17 weeks 12 hours ago||Fair enough -- point is, they are lower reaches of Pac-12||
There is no perfect analog in the B1G -- perhaps Purdue is a better one. But of the Pac-12 programs, historically USC, UCLA, Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona State and Colorado have all been easily better (e.g., multiple conference championships, plus multiple big bowl wins, a few have national titles).
Point is, to get that program to "elite" (which, in my mind, is having high-level success with some consistency--i.e., our Sugar Bowl win in 2011 didn't get us back to "elite" b/c it was just one year) is something that has not been done before. If RR (or anyone else) does that at Arizona, it will be something quite new.
|17 weeks 13 hours ago||Here you go...||
Of course, he's more candid and sounds like he has much more of a clue, even on things he screwed up. In other words, he actually says something -- you can disagree with it (e.g., the fact they always go for it on 4th down on that side of the 50) but at least you know he's following an actual strategy.
|17 weeks 13 hours ago||Arizona is the Indiana of the Pac-12||
That program has basically never had real success. They are the only original Pac-10 team to never be to a Rose Bowl. Ever. To build an "Oregon" out there (which was helped, in no small part, but Nike money) would be one of the greatest feats of all-time.
And this year they are starting a RS Fr QB, i.e., someone just as experienced as Shane Morris. Their guy has thrown for 1450 yards in 4 games. It seems like it would take Shane 14 games to reach that.
So maybe they'll never become elite, but (unbelievably to me) you can say the same about Michigan right now. Arizona's program is easily in better shape than ours. That's unbelievable with our resources, but true. I mean -- who had a better record last year? Who will this year? Who would you bet would next year?
It's not pretty.
|17 weeks 13 hours ago||Umm....what's your number so I can call you?||
1) Arizona hasn't been that impressive this year, but they are 4-0. You'd be hard-pressed to convince me Minnesota is better than Cal, and whether Arizona's hail mary was complete or not, at least Arizona was competitive in that game. We were not, at all, against Minnesota.
2) More importantly, Arizona beat Utah last year and thumped a top 5 Oregon team last year, 42-16. We literally haven't had a victory over a team that highly ranked late in the year in over a decade.
|17 weeks 16 hours ago||It doesn't have to Brandon; Prez Schlissel can do it||
Not having an acceptable protocol for student safety, in today's day and age, is a huge no-no. From Hoke's comments, it sounds like we literally do not have one. Or if we do, we weren't following it.
This goes above the AD -- the regents and president will say, "Wait...you don't have anyone who--when a student looks like he might have a concussion who actually verifies it? You rely on the student to take himself out?" and they'll have Hoke's own words to show, he--in fact--does not have any idea on this important topic. Combine that with historic-level losing, fans leaving in droves, and Hoke is history. Sooner rather than later.
|17 weeks 17 hours ago||Yep, that's why I think he will be fired, this week||
His presser is galactically stupid. That statement might have worked in 1994, but in 2014...please.
The new prez is going to learn about this, and make sure Hoke is gone. He has the power to do it. Hoke is not going to resign, he's going to need to be fired. And I will honsetly be surprised if it doesn't happen.
In 2014, you can NOT be that clueless on player saftety unless (let's be honest here) you are winning at a high level (e.g., if Les Miles said something like this, he'd probably get away with it). Record-level of losing AND epic cluelessness on player safety? He's fired.
|17 weeks 17 hours ago||Yeah, that was one depressing sideline||
There was barely any interaction btw the players. At some points, where you would think a junior/senior would be rallying people around (or at least a coach), they were all just standing there.
And the QB group didn't seem to interact at all. Maybe I missed it, but it seems like Morris went in, he went out, sat by himself, wash/rinse/repeat.
Oh well. I hope they sort it out. They're a bunch of good guys on the team and if they can keep it together, maybe next year (with better coaching and more experience), their talent will shine and they can pile up some W's. But based on what I saw today, if any of them decide to leave, that's their decision -- I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
|17 weeks 17 hours ago||The whole team looked shell-shocked||
I was at the game, across from the UM bench. I had my bincoulars and since the on field product was so bad, I took to watching the UM sideline during breaks in play in the 2nd half. For the most part, they all were just standing there, stone-faced, while their world collapsed on them.
Even more weird, after Morris' second turnover (i.e., before he got injured), I found him on the sideline. He was just sitting there! No coach going over plays, or reviewing technique, or even bucking him up. He was just sitting there, like a lump.
Then I went over to Garnder, who seemed relaxed and had a bemused smile on his face. I'm not suggesting, at all, that we has happy UM was losing b/c the offense was floundering so bad, but his face suggested, "Y'all thought I was the problem, huh? Look at that nonsense we've done today."
And of course, Hoke was just either clapping his hands and/over hunched over looking at the field. I'm not sure what he does.
Thank goodness I left at the end of the third quarter (where I even I, 500 feet away, could see Morris was limping after a hit). What a total debacle.
Hoke should be fired, tomorrow. He doesn't deserve to finish it out. And Brandon should announce he will be stepping down in December, to let a new AD find a new coach.
That kind of performance can't go on without an answer from UM administrators.
|17 weeks 2 days ago||My desperate need to win level is much higher||
I understand why Brian put it so low, but on a basic level, if this team can NOT beat a bad Minny team, at home....I highly doubt I will pay attention to much of the rest of the season. So I am at least at an 8.
I mean, I know 10-2 and 9-3 (which were common record predictions before the season) are very, very likely pipe dreams now, but a loss to Minn. means we likely won't even have a winning record -- the floor could be 4-8 or 3-9. I have no desire to spend much time with that.
Even more importantly, it would undercut one of the pillars of the "Hey, Hoke might not be a good coach, but at least we have stockpiled some talent, so next year with Harbaugh/Miles/Gruden/etc will be a lot better." Teams with good talent, even with coaching issues, need to be bad teams at home.
So, just win, baby.
|17 weeks 2 days ago||The whole damn thing doesn't||
The whole damn thing doesn't make any sense.
|17 weeks 2 days ago||Sure they are - for the foreseeable future||
I'll give you one example -- is anyone on this board NOT going to watch the UM/Minn game this weekend (which is on ABC/ESPN) because of this? My guess is that number is 0%.
More globally, they dominate in the ratings and have vacuumed up the key properties. As was (coincidentally) pointed out yesterday, the #2 sports network is not NBCSN or Fox Sports but ESPN 2 (by a large margin, in terms of ratings).
People will go to where the content is. ESPN has that for the next 8-10 years -- all the other stuff is just interesting to talk about.
|17 weeks 2 days ago||Not really, paycheck-wise (for all the pedants in the house)||
Rice lost 1/8 of his pay for his 2 game suspension (2/16).
Assuming Simmons was suspended without pay (which I don't think is even the case, but let's go with it), he lost 1/17 of his pay for his 3 weeks of (3/52).
That said, lots of people would make the comparison you made. But I don't think ESPN cares; at this point, they're too big too fail.
|17 weeks 2 days ago||A huge company can't let a top employee taunt them||
Bill Simmons is running one of their key units, Grantland. You can't have a top employee saying "You leave me alone. Please, call me and say I’m in trouble. I dare you." and shoving in his bosses faces that somehow, he gets to do what he wants.
He's been in trouble with ESPN multiple times before (I think this is his fourth suspension?), so if they let him go with no punishment, what's to stop Olbermann/Scott/Davis/Fowler (you name it) from going off about whatever subject they have a vehement opinion about in a profane (if bleeped) way and then saying, "Go ahead. Try and do something to me."
Don't mess with the bull. You get the horns.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||Who are you addressing? I'm talking about DG at WR||
I don't agree with putting Shane as the starting QB, but if they do, fine. It's not like DG has been good this year.
But neither has Shane. So putting DG at WR when a) Shane could get hurt and b) Shane could perform poorly (as he unfortunately has so far, in limited time) are real possibilities, would be downright foolish.
Whether Shane does or does not start against Minn, it is quite possible we'll need to use the new backup QB at some point to win a game (or three). I'd much rather that be DG than Bellomy or Speight.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||The chances should be zero||
If Shane starts, I would consider it a fireable offense to put DG in at wide receiver. If (god forbid) Shane gets hurt, are you telling me it's Bellomy time? I know this season hasn't gone as planned, but the B1G is weak -- I still want to at least go to a bowl game.
It's already clear DG has been affected by the constant switching of offense coordinators, offensive philosophies, OL shakiness (which has led to him possibly being injured), RB's not being as good as we thought and, finally, his own unsteady play.
He does NOT need to also be worrying about a freakin' position change and brush up on how to run out routes and his double moves.
|17 weeks 4 days ago||He coaches for the Packers now||
Speaking of the Zooker, I saw him on the sidelines during last week's Lions-Packers game. Apparently, he is an "Asst Special Team Coordinator."
I have no idea if he's good at that job, but the man does have a magnifcent head of hair -- very easy to pick out in a crowd of coaches.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||One positive||
Jourdan Lewis is as tenacious at running down screen passes as Anna's zombie husband is at running down cars.
|17 weeks 6 days ago||You hire someone else, b/c that gives you a better chance||
I'm not being glib. Unless we rattle off a (very unlikely, but hey, who knows?) B1G championship-performance these next 8 games, we'll have significant proof it isn't going to work for Brady Hoke at Michigan. Even if we kept him here for four more years.
So while there is no guarantee someone else would be better, there is a better chance "Mr. Random New Guy w a Better Track Record than Hoke" will compete for titles than Brady Hoke. Because we already know (with 98% certainity, with only the next 8 games to confirm it's 100%) that Brady Hoke can't do that.
|18 weeks 2 days ago||Good quote, but Canham was in desperate times||
I mean, from that same artice: "We hadn't sold out the Ohio State game in 14 years." Let me repeat that -- the biggest game in UM's schedule had NOT sold out in over a decade! For other games, UM had tens of thousands of empty seats. UM in 2014 has challenges, but nothing like what Canham faced.
Canham was (perhaps to a fault) willing to do almost anything to get anyone to a UM game. I'm sure he would have done some of the things Brandon has done (e.g., Beyonce; James Bond/jet packs; UTL; uniformz) as those -- in theory -- get people to the stadium and/or to watch the game.
But how does "Chobani + M" get more people to the game or more interested in football? It's simply Chobani giving UM money to promote Chobani.
I mean, go look at the Chobani press release. See anything about getting more people to appreciate/like UM football, like all the crazy stuff Canham did? UM (and OSU and Oregon, etc) are just target markets, selling out their "nonprofit" brand for more money ---money that does us no good, except so that administrators can dive, Scrooge McDuck like, into huge piles of cash.
As has been said, it makes people less "fans" than "customers" -- and that's not good, long-term, for UM.
|18 weeks 4 days ago||Thx, but I'm waiting for a better deal||
I'm going to this game, and I've been watching StubHub. I think it's quite possible I can get ~20 Yd line tix for $50 (definitely for $60) a piece.
I don't even want to think what prices will be if we, God forbid, lose this weekend.
|18 weeks 5 days ago||There is a big difference btw Hoke and Ferentz||
While there are definite similarities, the reason Ferentz is going anywhere is he has--at key junctures--won, and won, big at Iowa.
In Year 4, he won the B1G and went to the Orange Bowl, the first of three straight Top 10 finishes (capped off by a Year 6 Cap One Bowl win and another B1G title).
Then some mediocrity followed, along with some grumbling, and just when it started to get a bit hot, he had another uptick, winning the Orange Bowl in Year 11. That's when NFL teams came calling (2009) and he got his ridiculous contract (through 2020).
So Ferentz can't (readily) be fired is b/c he parlayed very good seasons into Iowa panicking and offering him a huge contract. Hoke can DEFINITELY be fired as a) he doesn't have Ferentz record of success (though, who knows, hopefully we can win the B1G this year), b) he doesn't have a huge, lengthy contract and c) UM has infinitely more money than Iowa.
|18 weeks 5 days ago||I totally back this coach||
I understand coaches of UM, Alabama, ND, etc can't do these type of plays, but I appreciate the fact the coach did it just b/c it was fun AND did not hurt the actual football play in any way (the alternative was for the guy to just stand there).
Besides, it's fun to learn there is a football technique called "The Fainting Goat."
|19 weeks 3 days ago||Hey, they beat the Fighting Camels 66-0 last week!||
Seriously, I just looked that up -- App State beat the Campbell Fighting Camels 66-0 last weekend. I had never heard of Campbell University (apparently it is a Baptist-school in NC) and their nickname is quite interesting. The women's basketball team is the "Lady Camels".
Back on point -- App State and Miami are both equally bad in 2014. Thus, if we don't beat Miami (NTM) in similar fashion to how we beat App State ~10 days ago, we've got even bigger problems than we thought.
|19 weeks 3 days ago||Yea, I'm not going to care what James Harrison has to say||
"Harrison was arrested in March 2008 and was charged with simple assault and criminal mischief stemming from a domestic altercation with his girlfriend, Beth Tibbott."
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Oh, "that" MSU(!) ;) As I||
Oh, "that" MSU(!) ;)
As I said, not a big difference. We collapsed at the end of the year, giving up copious amounts of points (which we'd done all year) and that was that. Could have been to FSU (Florida State, Fresno State or Ferris State) and it wouldn't have mattered.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||I know why we lost; 31-0 was another matter||
Oh I know the missed FGs and our relative lack of production on 3rd/4th down was key. But still losing by more than 4 TDs, with that box score, takes some doing.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Those are all recruiting rich areas||
As has been shown by numerous recent articles (and our wonderful expansion of the B1G on to the Atlantic coast), UM's traditional recruiting ground of MI, OH and Chicago are nothing compared to, say, Texas, Florida or Louisiana. All those other schools you mention have huge pipelines into those areas.
Players are key. Those schools have ready access to better players than UM does. Winning big at UM (or MSU or OSU, for that matter) is far from impossible, but you have less margin for error b/c the top recruits are typically not in your backyard.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Who knows? UM does not inspire a lot of confidence||
While I thought the ND game was 50/50, I am shocked that it ended up 31-0. Even when I look at the box score, I don't know how that happened. So I have no certainity that we won't find a way to lose to one (or more) of the mediocrities that litter our schedule.
The only game I'm taking for granted is next week (I'll be at a street party and, by choice, won't spend one minute looking in on the game). The rest of the games, who knows?
|19 weeks 6 days ago||It will be "forced" upon him||
" I think Hoke keeps his job even with 7 wins this season again..." I can not see that happening. At all.
That would likely mean losses to ND (a historic blowout), to MSU (likely a blowout), OSU (who knows) and two other teams from the worst "major" conference in America (or Utah, which isn't much better). All the people who matter -- fans, donors, alum players, recruits -- will not be OK with that.
A change would be made, even if we don't have assurance who the replacement would be. Because the sentiment (quite understanably, I think, if we go 7-5 again) would be, "I don't know who the next coach of UM will be, But he can't be worse than Hoke."
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Not that it matters much, but MSU was well before that||
For that 7-3 going into Wisky, one of those losses was to MSU. And people were quite surly even before kick-off (I was at the game); one of the worst moods at a home game I can remember.
Getting blown out did not help, but even if we lost 48-42 (instead of 48-28), it wouldn't have made much of a difference for RR's tenure at UM. UM's defense was horrible, we were losing games, and that was all that mattered. The margin of defeat was just a cherry on top.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||But that's not how it works -- change will be demanded||
I hear you that it would be nice to keep Hoke unless, say, John Harbaugh become available (highly unlikely). But if the team doesn't win enough--and even 9 wins might not be "enough" as everyone, including fans, realize how bad the B1G is--it will become shoot first and ask questions later. Big-time donors, player alums, and fans in general will be PO'd.
"Brinks trucks" and "backing them up" will be referenced, and we'll be forced to spend December wondering if Jim Harbaugh will leave for UM in the middle of a 49ers playoff run (pro tip: no, he won't). It will then be "Process II: The Reckoning".
Not looking forward to that at all. So let's hope you're right and we're on our way (somehow) to 9-10 wins, with one of them over OSU, and it all can be avoided.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Neither does any of our opinions, I guess||
I realize I'm not the AD. But I can still recognize the reality of the situation. If you think Brandon keeps Hoke in any situation beyond what I mentioned above (e.g., 8-4 with losses to ND, MSU, and let's say Penn State and Utah), well then I guess we'll just have to wait a couple months and find out.
Hopefully, we'll go 10-2 and this will all be moot. But my guess is that's not the case.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||The downvotes suggest people still aren't facing reality||
We went through this a bit over the spring/summer, with many, many posters asserting Hoke was not on the "hot seat" or merely had to have a decent season to surivive ("the OL is young!" "2015 is the year"). That might be "fair", but in today's college football, that couldn't be more wrong. You can't be below average (and well below "elite"), typically losing to your main rivals (often badly) 3 years in a row. And never sniffing a B1G title or Rose Bowl in 4 years. I think it's pretty simple for the regular season:
- 7 wins or less: fired
That's it. I don't think it gets more complicated than that.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Wishful thinking, but at least the chance is above zero||
- Jim Harbaugh is an NFL guy and he has not demonstrated any recent real love for Michigan. He loves Bo, but UM...?
He hasn't won a Super Bowl, and all accounts make it seem like he is burning to win one. If he leaves SF (real possibility), he'll have his pick of top NFL jobs -- Dallas, New York (Giants or Jets), Bengals, etc -- whatever team has an opening at the end of this year (and at least two of those teams will very likely have an opening for him). NFL teams will fire coaches just to get Jim; he's been that successful.
- Meanwhile, John Harbaugh has already won a Super Bowl, and he now will be dealing with the continual Ray Rice situation all year. Back that up with the fact he actually went to HS in Ann Arbor and seems more attached to UM than Jim (weird, b/c Jim went to UM and John didn't), I say if we need a new coach, back up the brinks truck for John.
I still give it a less than 10% shot, but that's higher than our prospects with Jim.
|20 weeks 2 days ago||Yes, it's factually incorrect||
- ND is as "national" as any team in the nation. Their relevance (in terms of fan interest) far exceeds their on-field performance (though obviously their many mediocre seasons has hurt that).
- The writer mentions secondary market tickets only being expensive b/c the series is ending. It would take 10 seconds to see last year's game also had tix that were $250 and above (http://michigan.247sports.com/Board/59424/Contents/UTL-2-Ticket-Question...) and that has been true throughout the series.
- Finally, UM-ND is annually one of the top rated TV games. So the interest is there.
|20 weeks 2 days ago||Yep, people are forgetting it was RS Fr QB||
...making his first ever start on the road (and 2nd start overall). He was having a mediocre to poor game (e.g., he missed some wide open guys earlier with bad reads), and you want to limit the chances of mistakes by him.
Having the QB do a pooch punt, which surely is not something he practices often, is not ideal. There are multiple ways that could go bad (e.g., poor shotgun snap that zooms by the QB; QB mishandles snap b/c he's not used to the footwork and gets it blocked).
I didn't love the call of plunging into the line as it seems too "blah", but it was the right call when you have a raw QB who might panic if (say) UTSA blitzed and his "just heave it to the end zone" play went wildly awry. The RB was great all night, and knows what he's doing, so let him have the shot.
|20 weeks 2 days ago||Good job by Manning, but man, that's a lot of talking||
Sounds like Manning is doing his usual good work, but it takes a certain kind of mind-set to say, "OK, today I'm going to shoot the breeze for possibly up to 90 minutes with a 16-year old. And that work very well might not lead to anything in terms of a committment."
I knew this already, but recruiting is crazy. Grown men basically begging for teenagers to make up their (understandably) fickle mind that they like you and your school.
|20 weeks 3 days ago||The b-school has changed, but definitely has undergrads||
First, the B-school has had a BBA program for at least 70 years. It's not like Northwestern, which just has a grad program.
Second, about 10-15 years ago, the BBA program went to a 3-year program (from 2-years). Additionally, you can now apply directly out of high school ("preferred admsion for exceptional high school students"), though most come "transfer" from LS&A, etc after their freshman year.
State Fan, either you really screwed up not knowing that or someone at UM really dropped the ball.
|20 weeks 3 days ago||Steve Blass is the OG in this "disease"||
For those who haven't heard of this mysterious issue, the most prominent early example of this was Steve Blass, an all-star pitcher with the world champ Pirates.
He had five or six good/great seasons from 1966-1972, and then dropped completely off a cliff, his ERA going from 2.49 to 9.85. And there was nothing physically wrong with him.
|20 weeks 5 days ago||Yes, it's not automatic he gets much better||
Brandy is not young -- he has literally decades of habits as a color guy that he has to discard. Pair that with the fact he will still be doing color 16 times a year for the Lions, it makes it twice as hard to "flip the switch."
Here's hoping, but we'll see.
|20 weeks 5 days ago||Good point -- it was minor league quality||
Brandy was late, wrong, and not descriptive on multiple occasions during the quarter or so I listened. For instance, he blew the id on Smith's TD run (he thought it was Green).
On commercial breaks, I turned over to 1130 to listen to Purdue-WMU. I have no idea who the announcers were, and I'm going to guess they were WAY down the totem pole to be doing a game for two struggling programs. Still, the play-by-play guy for that sixth-tier game sounded much more prepared and competent than Brandy.
Hopefully Brandy improves quickly, b/c I like the idea of two former college teammates announcing games for their alma mater. But I was not impressed by game 1.
|20 weeks 6 days ago||Yep, he's had scheme issues||
He's technically an LB, and there were issues b/c there were 4 coordinators in 4 years, and he mentioned being "lost" occasionally, which is never good. But now that it's the same coordinator two years in a row, BG has to just do it. I read an interview a week or so ago where he recognized that, and sounded fired up, so hopefully he'll stay healthy and be productive.
|20 weeks 6 days ago||It's either 3 years or 7 years of "injuries"||
I think the difference in counting is b/c Brady missed the entire 2008 season, but yes, Brady has had multiple years long streaks of being listed on the injury report. He was always "probable" -- it's ridiculous.
For whatever reason, Belichek stopped doing that (consistently) in 2011 -- I wonder if the NFL told him to knock it off?
|21 weeks 33 min ago||Also, Brandon Graham was on the bubble||
He's been affected by injuries, and then (to be frank) so-so performance ever since he was a #1 Eagles pick, and there were reports he might get cut. Thankfully, he made the 53-man roster.
Hopefully, he'll be able to have a good year and make a real impact.
|21 weeks 35 min ago||Remember, this is the Patriots||
They're infamous for NHL-like "upper body injury" and listing basically half the team on the injury report week to week.
So, there's no real info on what Gallon's injury (injuries?) are. However, there is a feeling that they want him on the 10-man practice squad, so my guess/hope is they're not too bad.
|21 weeks 21 hours ago||Brandy has a LOT of room to improve||
I think you guys are letting your hearts (as Brandy seems like a great guy and bleeds maize & blue) get ahead of your ears.
I listened to a little more than one quarter, so perhaps he was lights out the rest of the game, but in that short time I heard him misidentify names, numbers, and yardage, and he was hesitant more than once. Additionally, on the highlights after the game, he pulled "He could go all the way!" for both Smith and Green's long runs (which is not a huge deal, but since they both got tackled well before the 10 yard line, they really weren't that close) and more importantly, he called Smith's TD (after the long run) for Green.
I like the rapport with Dierdorf, but I hope Brandy will get a lot better (which he certainly should, but you never know). I mean, on commercials I switched over to the WMU-Purdue game and their broadcast team sounded more prepared/professional.
|22 weeks 2 days ago||Thank god that professor||
Thank god that professor didn't come from the SEC. That domer REALLY would have had it out for him.
|22 weeks 3 days ago||No it's not "huge", but it's good enough||
"Huge" would have been USC, Georgia, FSU, Auburn, Texas, etc. Scheduling an opponent that has not been very good, let alone great*, at any point since 2000 is not "huge."
That said, they are a program from the Pac-12, in a growing city/state that surely has a good amount of UM alums, and they have a good football tradition (e.g., the 1980s and 1990s). So I'll take it.
Who knows how good they will be in 2020, but there is a decent chance. And if not, it is still a good game from an exposure perspective and from SOS.
* Seriously, UW football has been pretty sad for about 15 years. Their high point in that period is 9 wins last year, and 8 wins in 2001. That's ugly.
|22 weeks 4 days ago||Reminded me of Pitt||
Either way, why you'd want to re-design your classic uniforms--even for one game--to end up looking like two teams you regularly play is beyond me.
|23 weeks 4 days ago||A better question||
In light of today's board brew-ha-ha, how are the prices for hockey season tickets? ;)
|23 weeks 5 days ago||It's the bait & switch - that's the problem||
As someone who has lived in Chicago and attended the Big Chill, I am completely fine with the idea of an MSU/UM game in Chicago. I am sure it will be well-attended, by many Chicagoland alums. That works for me.
But if I purchase something, and then sometime later, that person says:
And if you're saying people shouldn't be outraged (or even, at less passionate level, care) about this switch, that doesn't make sense to me from the AD perspective -- UM fans shouldn't care if they get to go see a big rival game or not? If they feel someone put something over on them? If that's what the AD is relying on, he seems to be relying on an indifferent fan base, who just cares about "events" not about Michigan. Not a recipe for long-term success. It is "clueless."
|24 weeks 1 day ago||Twin Peaks would break the internet today||
Can you imagine a show that weird in today's world with Twitter, reddit, etc? People would flip out.
Back on topic: these uniformz don't make me sing a pretty song. At least they're not the worst we've ever done, so that is something.
|24 weeks 2 days ago||How dare you speak that way...||
...about the 5th leading shot blocker in UM history!
Besides, Asselin is/was 6ft 11; so that's pretty near 7 feet. Smits, Bradley and Moore easily cleared it.
|24 weeks 2 days ago||Josh Asselin||
...now we're back on track.
|24 weeks 2 days ago||Gob may not be on board, but I am|
|29 weeks 4 days ago||I guess, but is the USMNT perpetual underdogs?||
I think your analysis is right, but it seems like there is no time limit on this status, which I find interesting. The US has had (some) World Cup success pretty regularly since 1994, yet the US is always the team of the future, it seems. It's a nice status to have with your fans.
I mean, Costa Rica (our CONCACAF brethren) just won a group featuring England, Italy and Uruguay (i.e., as hard as our "Group of Death"), and then beat Greece in the knockout round. Yet I haven't heard one article saying, "How come they do that and we can't? When will it be our year to shine?"
I don't have a problem with it. It's kind of nice to have a fan base that treats their team like a favorite puppy or something (not sure if it's the right analogy, but it's what came to mind).
|29 weeks 4 days ago||Are US fans the only ones like this?||
I don't mean passionate -- that's a given for pretty much every World Cup squad. I mean that they don't seem to really get angry about their team.
I mean, I don't follow Mexican soccer blogs, but when they lost (again) in the knockout round, where they like, "Man, this is disappointing and I'm sad, but it's still wonderful -- can't wait 'til next year!"? My sense is they would be pissed off, but maybe I'm wrong. Same with other countries.
For an example of this outside of mgoblog (and there are many), there's the NY Times game story. There are 400 comments, and while I didn't read every one, it's a mix of "Wow, what a team! I had a fun! Too bad, and I'm sad we lost, but we'll get 'em next time!" and fans from other teams around the world saying, "Nice match, US! Good job, good effort!" It's the most positive comment thread in the history of humanity.
I can't think of another sport, college or pro, where this happens. High school, maybe?
|29 weeks 5 days ago||Not everyone has the money bags in your avatar's hands||
Obviously $500 is on the lower end, but if you're willing to a) share an apt with someone else (students still do that, don't they?) or b) live outside the actual city Ann Arbor (which many grad students do, e.g., in one of the adjoining townships or in Ypsi), you can find lots of stuff for rent of $1000/mth total, which equals out to $500 a month. And this stuff is not in the 'hood.
If you want to live in the city itself, by yourself, it's easily double (or triple) that, but as a grad student, maybe you don't care as much about being close to the night life and restaurants.
|29 weeks 5 days ago||Key question - what is the budget?||
If your budget is essentially unlimited, so are the options. If they don't want to spend, say, more than $500/month, that pares things down. So knowing (approximately) what they want to spend is key.
Also important -- do they have a car or will they be relying on bus/walk?
|30 weeks 5 days ago||No they didn't -- OSU was not good (D-wise) last year||
You're remembering past OSU teams, perhaps. Last year, OSU got lit up on numerous occasions.
Against Clemson, Tajh Boyd threw for 378 yards (5 TDs) and ran for 127 more yards. Clemson had an RB who ran for 69 more yards (on 12 carries).
That's almost 600 yards of total offense. Heck, Cal had 500 yards in offense against them.
They weren't terrible, certainly, but they also weren't good. The OSU offense last year is what carried that team (as shown by Carlos Hyde running through our d-line at will, along with them being able to pass for copious yards).
|31 weeks 23 hours ago||Have a fun time and be prepared for 101 questions||
I took my 6-year old and it was a nice time, even though the Tigers lost. And that 101 questions is not an exaggeration -- everything from "Who's pitching?", "Is he any good?", "How fast did he throw it?" "Can you throw it that fast?", "How fast will he throw the next pitch?", "How can you tell it was a curve ball?", "Can you throw a curve ball?", and so on. Thankfully it was a not constant, just machine gun-like every 5-10 minutes or so when something new caught his interest and/or he was following up on one of my comments to my friend (e.g., "Boy, Verlander is struggling!")
And, of course, be ready to spend the usual excessive amount of money at the concession stands.
|31 weeks 4 days ago||Looks good to me||
I stopped getting the U of M plates from the state of MI (which are "fundraising plates") b/c I couldn't stand they had a blue M on a yellow field. It looked dumb.
I just Googled it and see they finally switched it so it looks exactly like the Texas plate (in terms of the block M; the whole MI plate is not maize & blue). A point to the Michigan marketers who made sure our trademark was finally correctly being displayed.
|31 weeks 5 days ago||He's only 31 and he's making his own bad luck||
I was at the game last night, so I got to see his latest debacle first-hand.
- He's only 31. He still should be in his prime (not the middle of it, but def a couple more years). Plenty of pitchers (Halladay, Sabathia, Shields, Lee, Wainright, etc) have done very well/excelled at that age. Now perhaps JV is different, but if so, whoo boy -- the Tigers are in trouble.
- He did have bad luck last night , such as the sawed off, broken bat "hit" that loaded the bases. But Infante's homer was a no-doubter, and he's not exactly Babe Ruth. Plus, JV had plenty of good luck (e.g., guy leaving 2nd base early to get double off on a fly out to center field; Davis throwing a guy out at the plate).
So it's not really bad luck, but bad pitching. His control has been poor and he hasn't been stirking nearly enough people out.
If he doesn't fix it within the next couple of starts, I'd be all for the Tigers sitting him out for 2-3 weeks so he can rest / work on mechanics / whatever. Right now, he's really hurting the team (which is shocking thing to say for someone so talented).
|32 weeks 5 days ago||Fair point, but it's still a problem||
The NFL's tax evasion is nothing compared to, say, Apple's or Pfizer's, but it still terrible that the "NFL League Office" is a non-profit which saves ~$10 million a year in taxes and pays its "non-profit" CEO (Roger Goodell) $35 million a year.
With that in mind, I'm fine if people get upset about it. Just like I'm fine that people are finally realizing the "non-profit" bowls, which pay their chairman $1 million+, are also a joke and a scam. I'll take whatever might lead to little victories we can get.
|33 weeks 2 days ago||I will yell that out loud||
I will yell that out loud this year/next year any time Ty Isaac has a run/catch of 25 yards+ (even if it is straight up the middle of the field).
|33 weeks 2 days ago||If these clips are any||
If these clips are any indication, I look forward to many productive runs by Ty when we are up 48-14 on teams midway through the 3rd quarter.
Seriously though, the Fresno State catch & run was quite nice. Hopefully we'll see a lot that in the future, as that would help Devin out a ton against pressure.
|33 weeks 5 days ago||Wow, the Elite 11 stunk Devin's year||
First, congrats to Alex. Seems like a good kid who's on the rise.
Second, have you looked at previous Elite 11's? Usually, a good portion are truly "elite", but 2009 was a tire fire.
Hopefully Alex can be the best in his class, like Devin was, but have a better, more experience OL to lead us to some more W's and championships.
|34 weeks 3 days ago||It's not your fault...it's not your fault||
I'd embed the Good Will Hunting Clip here, but I realized that came out the same year as Austin Powers, so I'll refrain to prevent a continued lack of hipness.
|34 weeks 3 days ago||Exactly - why analyze what you're not looking forward to?||
By this, I don't mean Michigan football (exactly). I mean the fact that it is EXTREMELY likely we will go 8-4 or 9-3 this year. Against an unexciting schedule. Which will likely put us behind two, if not three, of our big rivals. Which sucks.
Hopefully the team will surprise like it did in 2011 and go 11-2 (or better). But that's just it -- that would be a real surprise, and and any honest preview would treat it as such.
So I don't think--when we're 1,000 short--that it's "Meta" Blog stuff. It's UM football and it's performance (and lack thereof).
I just hope to enjoy the watching the games (and not overanalyze it), hope Hoke wins enough (pick your number; I know I have mine) to readily keep his job and thus we won't have to spend next off-season discussing whether Brandon should offer Jim Harbaugh $10 mil/year. That's my big-time goals for this year. Which is not exactly exciting when it's been 10 years since we've won a B1G title.
FWIW, I did support the Kickstarter to support the blog/content and I want to learn more about Nuss. But to find out if our 3rd string TE will contribute and how the LB rotation will develop, etc? Not something I can get fired up for to delve into this year.
|37 weeks 3 days ago||Hmmm. I'll still wait for the||
Hmmm. I'll still wait for the Groupon.
|37 weeks 4 days ago||The team definitely uses 'Jag-wahrs'||
I just spent 3 minutes on their website and their official "Jaguars.com Live!" show and their coach both use "wahrs", so that seems official.
FYI: their most recent video (about the NFL draft) in their Jaguars Media Gallery has a subtitle that refers to QB Aaron Murray's "rock-hard confidence."
I did not click on that video.
|37 weeks 5 days ago||You changed your argument||
- You said "Many students and athletes..." My point is it is not many athletes.
- Regarding students: At U of M, which has a different than most public universities, the % of students from Michigan is still 60%. That 40% out-of-state comes from all over (every state, many countries). There is a huge concentration from NJ/NY/CT, and I'm sure hundreds of folks from VA/MD. But you know where those students will be during the B1G tourney? They will be...in Michigan. It's not much more convenient for them, just b/c their parents live in Greenwich.
- And the B1G is not just about U of M. MSU has 88% of its students in-state. Wisconsin is 75+% WI & MN students. Etc.
So this it all about "expanding the footprint" and alumni. I'm fine with alumni (I am one) but the students should be the primary consideration -- as many as reasonably possible deserve a shot to see their team.
And of course "everyone" wouldn't prefer Indianapolis. I prefer Chicago or Detroit over Indianapolis. Delaney is not calling me.
But this is just another step on the "brand building" of the B1G, that will eventually lead to not much of a brand at all. That's my point.
If you want to have alums on the east coast see games, great -- schedule non-conf games in CT, NJ, NY, MD, etc. But you don't need to add Rutgers or have your tourney (which is multiple games) far away from the vast majority of your fan base.
|37 weeks 5 days ago||'Many'? I don't think so.||
- UM's roster last year: http://www.umhoops.com/information/roster/
- Michigan State roster: http://www.msuspartans.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/msu-m-baskbl-mtt.html
All from Midwest (MI/OH/IN/IL), except a guy from Wyoming.
While I am sure there are one or two (on avg) guys from VA or MD on B1G rosters, the vast, vast majority of them are from the Midwest.
This has zero to do with students and their families. Please don't perpetuate that nonsense.
|38 weeks 4 days ago||Mouton is not really an NFL player||
He has made precisely one NFL tackle. He was wildly overdrafted, everyone thought so at the time, and through injuries/lack of suffiicent talent, he essentially hasn't played yet and I would be surprised if he ever did (he didn't play at all last year).
You are right about Schilling -- I knew I had forgotten someone, so Schilling brings it to 5 players, i.e., the same amount of NFL players in 2 classes as 2009 had in one.
The 2006 did have more depth, but my point still stands: we have been doing below what we need to be in recruiting for almost a decade now. Sometimes well below, but typically below. This unfortunately isn't new.
|38 weeks 5 days ago||Go look at the 2005 and 2006 classes - they're not good||
Except for a handful (literally) of gems/very good players, it's a mess. Not as big a mess as the 2010 class, but a mess nonetheless. Future (not) greats like Eugene Germany, Marques Slocum, Mister Simpson, James McKinney, Justin Schiafano (all alleged 4 stars) are all over the list. There's more where that came from.
You would figure if you truly have two Top 10 classes, that would give you a lot of NFL players, right? Well, out of the 42 players, there were basically four: B Graham, S Brown, M Manningham and Z Mesko. Two a freaking year.
The 2009 class alone (which certainly was not good overall) has four or five by themselves: Lewan, Schofield, Gallon (who will all get drafted), plus Denard and Will Campbell.
The really unfortunate fact is UM has been screwing up in recruiting for close to a decade. We've had our moments, but not enough sustained ones to be a top program -- which is why we haven't won a B1G title (and forget national relevance) in basically a decade.
Hopefully things will go our way this year and we can keep moving forward. If we have another coaching change, we likely will be looking at another mess for years to come.
|39 weeks 2 days ago||Legality isn't the point - disproportionate penalty is||
As hundreds have pointed out, players get far lesser suspensions for far worse criminal activities (e.g., drunk driving, punching girlfriends, breaking and entering). If you want to have a week or two suspension, OK, I guess. But a whole year strike me of "Reefer Madness" type nonsense.
And I say this as a non-smoker. It doesn't affect me personally if pot gets legalized. But the penalties for it, in many avenues of life, are still ridiculous.
|39 weeks 2 days ago||I thought of the union, too||
This type of ridiculous rule (and knowing the NCAA rule book, there are probably dozens of similarly stupid ones) is exactly why it's a good idea for players unionize, or at least to seriously discuss it.
- Driving while intoxicated, where you put yourself and other's lives at risk? No biggie, maybe miss a game or two.
- Smoke some dope on your own time, risking the lives of exactly zero people? Out for a year.
The sooner the NCAA gets blown up, the better.
|39 weeks 3 days ago||Somewhat agree, but you're undervaluing Ducks win||
Under Hoke and under RR, and even under Carr for his last 5 years, UM has not beaten a late season Top 5 team in something like a decade. And not only win, but crush them (42-16).
Our "high profile" wins over ND were nice, but were against over-ranked, overrated teams. Oregon was a legit top 5 team last year when AZ beat them -- and U of M hasn't beaten one of those in something like 11 years (which makes me sad)
But even if that one win is a fluke (which is possible, though he's already beat other ranked teams in his two years at AZ), it's far, far to early to say "didn't work here, same result in AZ".
Arizona had a bettter year than Michigan last year, which stinks, and after reviewing our roster and watching the spring game, I'm not that confident we'll be a lot better this year. Hopefully I'm wrong and just depressed after watching our offense at the spring game.