|3 days 15 hours ago||We're not a #1 option for Jim Harbaugh||
Jim Harbaugh has made it pretty clear he is an ultra-competitive guy. People he loves (his brother) and hates (Pete Carroll) have a Super Bowl, and all evidence is that he wants one.
If SF doesn't win one this year, it seems he will be fired (due to issues with the front office). Harbaugh will then have his pick of NFL jobs, such as Oakland, Miami, and perhaps both New York jobs.
Unless Jim wins a Super Bowl this year AND decides to go out "on top" (seems very, very unlikely to me), he won't be coming to Michigan, regardless of whether DB is here. Why would Jim? Because he played here 30 years ago? He hasn't (with the huge exception of Bo) exactly expressed love with the program since then.
|4 days 15 hours ago||AD yes; coach no||
You are completely right on the AD. People got WAY ahead of themselves regarding the regent meeting, but I still think unless Brandon resigns (which is possible, but I doubt his ego would let him) he will be here in 2015. He makes too much money to pay off, has support of big bucks Ross, and has support (as noted) from the coaches.
Hoke, OTOH, is absolutely gone unless we win out. There is no way David Brandon is going to want to try and sell tix next year for a Hoke-coached team that just went 7-5 or worse and lost to MSU and/or OSU again. He showed he is willing to throw Hoke under the bus during the Shane Morris thing. He will certainly do it after this season unless Hoke somehow gets this team to 9 wins (which has literally about a 1% chance of happening).
|6 days 13 hours ago||I can understand, but I actually didn't -- timing is too weird||
I mean, why would he transfer now? It's not like he can leave tomorrow, and go sign up for Rutgers, Penn State, OSU, whatever, next week. He would have to sit out the season, without access to proper training equipment, trainers, meals, etc. Anyone who transfers does so in December or in early January -- after classes and after the season
Not to mention -- I know he's a football player, but he's still a student, right? Why drop out in the middle of the semester unless there is a serious issue (and by "serious", I mean "death in the family", not "disagreement with coaches")?
|1 week 18 hours ago||Yes, he has two sacks||
And if you're thinking about the last play of the game, he was near the the QB, but I believe the other person got the sack. There also was another play that he got the QB for a 1-2 yard gain.
Regardless, BG is having a good year -- and he need to, as he was concerned he would be cut coming out of training camp. He regularly grades out high for Eagles defensive players, so hopefully he keeps it up.
|1 week 1 day ago||I'm sorry, but that's plain crazy||
I will find whatever lemons and other citrus Brian has not eaten if Brady Hoke is here next year if we lose to OSU and MSU. Why on earth would UM keep someone who can't come close to winning the worst Power 5 conference in the country, can't beat our main rivals and not to mention got thrown under the bus by his AD during the whole Shane Morris debacle.
He may have goodwill with some former players, but he certainly doesn't with the fan base. I'd stop listening to former players -- their insularity and focus on a "Michigan Man" (as opposed to, you know, the actual best man for the job) helped get us into this predicament in the first place.
I too hope we beat MSU, but I'm also going to deal with reality.
|1 week 1 day ago||It just wouldn't work - the narrative needs to change||
There is 0% Hoke comes back if they lose to osu and msu. 0%. At best, UM would be 6-6 and play in some low-rent bowl which no one would care about.
The off-season would be down right hostile, and if you think UM Athletic Dept had to come up with some crazy gimmick promotions for this year, try selling a team that went 6-6 two years in a row, can not beat its biggest rivals, yet for some reason kept the same coach.
|1 week 2 days ago||Really?||
Was that b/c you were as drunk as Bill Murray is in that picture? I want to party with you, cowboy.
Wile did a great job, and deserves praise for this game, but based on past performance and the simple fact he's a college kicker, I did not consider his FGs (none of which were chip shots) to be "relaxing."
|1 week 2 days ago||I blame the "Michigan fan" more||
GIlmore is going to relate a story that makes the telecast interesting. Wish it wasn't that way, but that's the way it is.
But that so called "fan" is the worst. It reminds me of one of the worst experiences in my UM fandom, when watching the the UM-ND away game at a house party (a big one; didn't know many of the people), and more than a few "Michigan fans" wanted us to lose b/c they didn't like RichRod and his running QB. I wanted to punch them right in the face.
In any case, due in no small part to their (lack of) support, they got their wish. And here we are, soon to begin another coaching search.
|1 week 2 days ago||Nothing personal...||
...but you posted twice, plus based on my avatar, so I am duty-bound to neg you.
|1 week 2 days ago||Was that the announced attendance?||
Interesting. On the telecast, they said "109,000". Not sure where they got that from.
|1 week 3 days ago||Yep, the wagons are being circled||
As much as I'd like to read into it that DB is gone, I think the most "Michigan" thing (based on past performance) is to circle them up and defend the block M (as they see it).
I hope I'm wrong, but I still think (unless DB out-and-out quits, which would shock me) that DB will be here in 2015.
|1 week 4 days ago||Not going to neg you, but there is talent there||
Take JMFR. Per knee, he looks like the second coming of Clay Matthews. Now he is well past his knee surgery, and he really doesn't look all that special -- is that scheme? Is that coaching? Is he still affected by injury?
|1 week 5 days ago||I'm not sure if Hoke thinks that much of Devin||
Hoke has obviously lost a lot of faith in DG. Some of that is understandable, based on his performances against ND and Utah, but he still has gone way overboard (e.g., starting an obvioulsy not ready Morris against Minn, and for whatever refusing to put DG in at the half when Morris was failing).
The FG is just another example of that -- he thought his kicker (who really hasn't done much, and had a bad game against ND) was a better option DG with the game on the line. I think that's foolish, but it shows Hoke does not have faith in DG.
|1 week 6 days ago||In the what, now?||
I seriously have never heard of this.
Apparently it's another attempt at a minor league (beyond college), which makes sense (I guess) as the NHL, NBA and MLB have them.
But why would you teams in Brooklyn, Boston, Florida and Omaha? Put them all within driving distance, for pete's sake.
Beyond that, I more seriouisly surprised Gallon hasn't caught on with an NFL team. I can't believe someone with his quicks, hands and hops can't make a roster.
|1 week 6 days ago||I like this idea||
Ypsi guy, went to MSU, coached for the Lions (but not long enough to be defined by them) and has a bit of college experience at LSU under the best college coach of the era, Saban.
While I'd love (of the college guys) to get someone who has been an HC before (esp b/c so many of our problems have been "communication", which starts from the top, and setting the course of the program, e.g., modern offenses and punting formations), but of the group above, the only one I like is the CSU guy, and he is a) from Montana and b) would need to have a 10-win season this year to be an option.
Thus, a pro guy would be a nice option. Are there any quotes from Manning or the Thomas "brothers" about how wonderful Gase is? That would be great.
|1 week 6 days ago||Twin Peaks is very hard to compare||
Which is what is so great (and sometimes so flawed) about it.
It's pretty easy to compare Breaking Bad to the Sopranos to Boardwark Empire to The Wire, etc as they are similar shows -- gritty, well-scripted dramas (with some humor), realistic violence, with compelling anti-heroes and villians.
Go search on YouTube for "twin peaks dwarf agent cooper" and watch those 7 minutes and 17 seconds and compare it to those shows. Sure, some of them had dream sequences (e.g., Sopranos) and some left-turns, but none of them were that completey unnerving and weird. You don't know whether to laugh or cry.
I don't know if the new episodes in 2016 will be good, but I am sure they will be interesting. I am in.
|2 weeks 8 hours ago||He can't even get his gobbledegook answers right||
His answer about Drake Johnson (which was a good question about why we haven't seen him so far) was sheer nonsense:
“Well, I think we talk about compete and challenge and there's always that. Not that he wasn't competing or challenging but as you go through practice and the execution of everything, we just thought needed [to be] cleaned up a little bit.”
Sentence one: Drake is not competing or challenging, which would indicate a lack of effort or committment.
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||You are limiting your playbook -- we need every option||
The whole point of the "quick" QB sneak is that it is quick. You are trying to do it before the defense is set. It is more effective than a regular sneak, esp if your OL isn't great at driving people off the ball (i.e., U of M), b/c if you do it quickly enough, your OL is not blocking a DL or LB who is ready.
So that *was* the best play they thought to attack the defense. It didn't work, but it was reasonable. Just as a play-action pass play which, if it didn't work, would have also left much more time on the clock.
And your hypothetical question doesn't apply to UM -- they score so few points, I want them to run whatever play, at whatever tempo, they think will give them best chance at 6 pts. If all else is equal, for sure, run the clock under 5-8 secs, but again, pass plays stop the clock if they don't work and I would have been completely fine with a pass on second down.
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||But that's the end point of his complaint||
Of course he wants Michigan to score. But his complaint is that they left too much time on the clock. If that's so important, they should have a) not ever considered passing the ball (too risky to have an incomplete) and b) been sure not to score until 3rd down.
Since we know Brian (and numerous other people who brought this up) don't think that, I'm not sure what they wanted. The only way we would have gotten to the ideal state (Rutgers having about 1 minute left) would have been, starting at first and goal, to both a) call all running plays with less than 5 secs on the clock and b) wait until 3rd down to score. That's not reasonable as "a" takes away play-action (which would have been a reasonable play call) and "b" is not something they want -- UM wants to score on first down, if possible. If not then, let's score on 2nd down.
UM scored at the end of the half. They did fine.
|2 weeks 15 hours ago||I don't get you not getting the end of the first half||
I don't get this -- Rutgers easily got the ball down the field and even with the "28 seconds" gone, still would have had at least two plays, goal to go.
But that aside, we do realize it is UM's offense, right? The one that has had severe scoring issues? They don't have the luxury of bleeding the clock to zero if doing so allows the defense to be set. Running a hurried QB sneak in a short-yardage situations is an actual, common play. New England runs it all the time (ran it just last night with Brady) -- you try and catch the defense when they're not set and sneak/push your way in with your big/tall QB.
And follow the logic -- it seems to indicate Michigan shouldn't have tried to score on the Gardner sneak -- after all, that would have left too much time on the clock. If they would have instead let 25 seconds more off the clock and then Gardner had actually scored (and we're OK with them trying to do that, right?), Rutgers would have had even more time remaining.
UM's offense is not nearly good enough to wait until 3rd down to try and score -- their entire focus was (and should have been) on whatever plays they thought would score 6 pts, each time. If it bled clock as well, bonus.
The score at the end of the half by Rutgers is on the UM defense, which based on Saturday's performance, would have found a way to give up a score with 1:13 or 1:43 left.
|2 weeks 17 hours ago||I think 3-9 is more likely than 2-10||
Even in 2008, we somehow pulled it together to beat Minn. I would think there would be one game, at least, where we'd play pretty well while also getting the call/get a gift interception/something where we'd win.
But I'm not going to spend much time thinking about. Bad is bad.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Scoring a TD is the primary objective - a quick QB sneak is fine||
Agreed. Running a hurried QB sneak in a short-yardage situation is an actual, common play. New England runs it all the time (and in fact just ran it an hour ago against the Bengals at the goal line) -- you try and catch the defense when they're not set and sneak/push your way in.
With UM's paucity of points these past games, their entire focus was (and should have been) on whatever plays they thought would score 6 pts. If it bled clock as well, bonus. BTW, for the next play, they DID bleed clock, running the Smith play with less than 10 secs on the game clock.
The score at the end of the half by Rutgers is on the UM defense, not Brady Hoke's clock mgmt. He's got enough evidence of not knowing what he is doing without coming up with something that I don't think has real merit.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Only if we don't get obliterated by MSU||
I know people think "well, it can't get much worse", but if we lose, say, 49-3 MSU (which is a distinct possibility), I think Hoke could be fired then. It's one thing to get beat by Minn or Rutgers. Getting the absolute stuffing kicked out of us by MSU will amp it as high as it can go (or low, depending on your perspective).
But if we lose 30-10 or 27-7 (or whatever), then at 7 losses is defintely the earliest.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Solich is a great example||
Not just the age (he is now 70, in his tenth year at Ohio U), but in what difference a good coach can make. Ohio was basically EMU in terms of football before he got there, and now they regularly go to bowl games. Granted, those bowl games usually have the name "Beef O'Brady" or "Famous Idaho Potato" in them, but it's still a real accomplshment. He's even won 3 division titles.
Like Miles, he is from the area of the country his new school was in, so he "got" the culture, put in his system, and pretty quickly he was on his way.
Miles is absolutely not too old for the job. Whether the AD in 2015 (which, unfortunately, I think will be Brandon) will hire him....
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Yeah, we look we have ankle weights on||
I was the UM-Minn game last week, and I spent a good portion of the time on offense just watching our receivers, to see if anyone was open. Typically, they weren't and if they were, Shane was looking/throwing the other way. Funchess was particularly depressing, as he was clearly well below 100% and looked like just another guy. It was very frustrating.
Meanwhile, on the very first drive for AZ, Jesse Palmer is talking about how a RS FR QB (i.e., same age as Shane) is choosing btw 3-4 options (incl running) on every play, and even a dope like me can see "Yep, that guy's open...but so was that guy in the flat...but he could have also gone over there" and so forth. It was like switching btw "Rookie" and "Madden" level.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||It's nice to talk about a successful football team||
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. After watching the recent editions of UM football, watching teams like Arizona and Oregon is like stepping into the sunshine. People getting open; breaking tackles; numerous plays that make you say "Ooh, that was clever -- he was WIDE open."
So I'm glad for RR. If him going 0-5 would make us 5-0, I'd take it in a heartbeat. But if his success away from UM helps put another nail in the "can't win with the spread' (or any type of modern football)" coffin for all the UM stuck-in-the-mud types, so much the better.
If there any AZ or RR threads next week, that's problem. But for now, it's better than talking about the debacle (on and off the field) that is UM football.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Don't let the fans off the hook||
A large majority of the fans, from students to alums, wanted RR gone--no matter who the replacement was, just get somebody else. Not to mention a number of former players. Beyond valid complaints (e.g., poor defense; struggling in red zone; losing to rivals), it was a "culture" issue. They hated the spread. They hated that we were "soft." They hated the running QB. They hated the coach's diction.
It was a tough time, as RR's teams were improving, but not fast, and it would have taken some vision and patience to give RR (+Casteel, as we finally would pay for assistants) a 4th year. But UM fans (in general) didn't want that; they wanted to "get back" to "real" football.
So, here we are. Our slow, stuck in 1990s, real football team is 2-3, and on a fast train to Palookaville.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Bradon, yes. Hoke....||
Yes, Brandon (with the support of the big-money guys and his expensive contract) is here for 2015. I actually am more convinced of that now than I was two weeks ago. Sad, but true.
Hoke? If/when he goes 4-8 this year, Brandon will find that bus he threw him under when it was convenient at 1AM on Tuesday, but this time go all the way. Hoke is fired unless we somehow go 7-0 the rest of the way (so basically, he's fired). Getting everyone fixated on "Is it Harbaugh? What about Dan Mullen? Do you think we'd hire someone who ran the spread? Is it a 'Michigan Man'" will be a great distraction, and something to sell the fan base on (esp if he somehow gets a big name).
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Regents are to Prez, as AD is to Coach||
- The regents hire/fire the president.
- The AD hires/fires the coach.
The president can fire the AD. But he has to want to.
So, unless the regents are going to do something to the president (e.g., we will fire you unless you fire David Brandon), it really is up to Schlissel.
- And remember: contracts have to be taken into consideration. I am sure Schlissel has no desire to pay a fired David Brandon $10mil plus unless he absolutely has to.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||They're great, but not perfect - if they deserve blame, blame th||
They're a huge, huge organization. As such, they can make mistakes, some well-publicized (e.g., the resident with child porn; the nurse & doc who OD'd this year). Again, that doesn't mean the vast majority of the people there don't do great work the vast majority of the time. But they're human beings, and if some of their employees made a mistake on Saturday, it won't be their first or their last.
No one at UM is, or should be, a sacred cow.
All that said, I'm less than thriled I'm (on this part of this one point) agreeing with a man I think should be fired, but DB is right -- it's the med staff job to diagnose concussions, not Brady Hoke's. If that gores a "sacred cow," so be it.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Double||
|2 weeks 4 days ago||It can "ultimately" be the coach AND the doc||
Someone on the field has to be in charge -- if everyone is in charge, no one is.
Unless U of M has somehow become the first school in the country where a head coach (w/ zero medical training) can diagnose a concussion, the person "ultimately" responsible is the head trainer.
Across the nation, medical people were specifically put in charge of this b/c a) they are the ones who can properly diagnose it, b) they can focus solely on medical issues during a game (as opposed to the myriad other things a coach has to do) and c) they don't have a W/L record; they won't get fired if we go 4-8.
DB has completely screwed up Michigan's response to this, in many ways, and he is also responsbile for having a standard, but less than perfect (e.g., having someone in the booth, which I guarantee few schools do) system in place. But he's not wrong that it is up to the medical staff, not Hoke. That's how it should be. I don't want coaches determing if some kid who just got drilled in the head (or more challengingly, who just get tackled hard) is OK to play or not -- they have no medical training and the wrong incentives to make that decision.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Are we on the national news b/c of an ankle injury?||
No, because we let a player who should have been evaluated for a head injury back in the game w/o evaluating him. That's the national story.
The ankle injury might be a big deal to us, b/c it provides yet more evidence Hoke isn't a good coach (i.e., Morris wasn't successful before he injured his ankle; why would he be better after?), but the big deal is the head injury. That's why the AD, the president, a congressman, every radio host & blogger in the known universe is poking their nose in.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Confirmed: he watches with coordinators||
I know many people have said they heard this before, but here is an actual quote from Brandon and discussion of the process (at least from last year). From a Detnews article in 2013:
"Hoke appreciates the support he gets publicly and privately from Brandon. The athletic director and former Michigan football player said he attends one or two practices each week and watches film with both coordinators the day after every game.
“That’s always nice if you’ve got people who you work with that are positive,” Hoke said.
Brandon, the man who fired Rodriguez and hired Hoke from San Diego State, said it wasn’t easy to watch film of the game Sunday. He watched the offensive snaps with Hoke and coordinator Al Borges and the defense plays with coordinator Greg Mattison."
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Brandon definitely sits in on film sessions||
Now, is it with coordinator w/o Hoke? I'm not sure, but my guess is that's true b/c why wouldn't he, based upon these statements he's made (from Huge Show in 2010)? Only way he would NOT is if Hoke somehow stopped him (Brandon's comments below are from RR's last year).
""I'm going in those locker rooms before the game, during the game and after the game and practices, seeing how the team responds in difficult situations. Going over the game films and finding out exactly where the breakdowns occur and why they occur. I do that. I don't know if that's normal or not, but I understand, and I can tell you when it's real time? on television with the angles and such you don't get a real sense for what's happening. You almost have to play the play back five or six times to see where did we get it right and where did we get it wrong.
"I'm sitting in on film sessions and having the opportunity to really look at how the game's unfolding, because I want to know. It's a big part of our program. I tell people all the time, the University of Michigan athletic department cannot be successful unless Michigan football leads our success. Mark Twain once said, 'if you put all your eggs in one basket, you'd better watch your basket.' Football is our basket, so I watch it very carefully. That's my job, and I do that."
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Lots of good points, but don't agree on the 5-0 thing||
I think this goes to Brian letting the trainers/docs off too easy. We have seen plenty of evidence that Hoke is not good at his job (pre-Shane incident) and thus that UM football is not well-prepared, but I had no idea the trainers/MDs were not good at key aspects either.
Thus, even if Brady Hoke was (miraculously) good at his job and we were 5-0, if the same sequence of events happened (Shane Morris with inured ankle rolls out; throws ball down field; gets hit late in head; gets up shaky on his feet), the trainers still would have missed it. They missed the head shot. All of them. None of them did a concussion evaluation during the game. And thus Shane still would have been left in for one more play (and gone in for one more play later, after Gardner loses his helmet). At 5-0, Shane Morris still would have played with a "probable" concussion, b/c they didn't think he needed to be evaluated.
It was their job to hold any possible concussed players out. They have primary responsibility -- Hoke, Brandon and Schlissel agree on this. I mean, even in the MSU/Gholston situation, it was the MSU trainers who came up with "wind knocked out", not Dantonio; he was just saying what he was told by the medical experts.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Name me a football team that does what you just said||
"The fact that somebody didn't immediately take him to see the medical staff is on the coaches and nobody else."
Which coaching staffs do that? I am asking. Who?
As I just noted above, MSU (just like U of M and I'm sure a ton of other teams) leave injury situations to the trainers/docs. That's why they are there; that's their job. They absolutely have the authority. No one -- not Hoke, Brandon or Schlissel -- has contradicted that.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Dantonio's quotes from 2012 ; how diff are they than Hoke's?||
Out of curiousity, I looked at Dantanio's post-game quotes after Gholston "had the wind knocked out of him" (by a head shot, which of course connects to your lungs and causes you not to move for 15+ secs) in the OSU game. Key stuff:
"The protocol, first of all, is he needs to be cleared. Players have been knocked woozy before...Once they pass that (impact test), they're cleared. I would assume that our trainers and our neurologist did that on the sideline, passed him and cleared him."
Key word -- "assume." In other words, he left it -- just like Brady Hoke -- completely up to the training staff on the sideline. Once they told him it was "the wind knocked out of him", that was good enough for him. He had a football team to coach.
"Whether he was knocked out or whether he wasn't, I'm not sure because I wasn't out there. But I heard he was sort of stunned or something, maybe even had the wind knocked out of him even. I really wasn't sure on that. I just knew he got up, came off."
Again, just like Hoke, he had no idea what happened. Maybe Gholston had a concussion; maybe he didn't. In his mind, just like Hoke, it is up to the training staff to sort that out. Dantonio does what the training staff tell him, which is why Gholston played later that same game.
In general, I think Hoke and esp Brandon have handled the aftermath of this quite poorly (e.g., the Sunday press conference and the 1am statement release). But I also think Brian and the rest of the media have been far too easy on the neurologist and training staff. This was their job and they failed. Why shouldn't they be fired?
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I don't understand what Brian is saying here||
"Mandel goes on to say the stuff about 5-0 and we're defending the guy, and I mean… come on. If this happens to a successful coach it is a strike but not one that dooms a regime..."
- The first part, ending in "come on" seems to suggest that being 5-0 wouldn't make a difference, that UM fans would still be this ticked off (e.g., marching on people's houses). The second part seems to contradict that.
Can someone tell me what I'm missing?
|2 weeks 5 days ago||All I will say is this: Detroit Lions||
I don't agree with you--I think people will find a 38-3 loss to MSU a big deal and/or a bad loss to Penn State at home a big deal--but anything is possible at this point.
But all should note you just compared U of M football ("the winningest program in college football history") with the Detroit Lions, who are without a doubt the worst US pro franchise (in terms of on the field performance), in any of the four major sports, in the last 50 years. The absolute worst out of ~120 teams. The only one in the discussion is the Cubs.
We are in dark, dark times.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Can't believe Hoke will make it through||
Think how up in arms the fan base is with 3 losses. If we are 2-6 or 3-5 (with a pounding by MSU), how bad will it be then? Our meltdowns will be having meltdowns.
I thought Brandon was a goner too, but after seeing his contract, I'm less certain. He may leave b/c it can't be much fun anymore, but only if UM pays him a big settlement (which would be politically dicey for all involved) and/or he has a sweet gig lined up elsewhere (which certainly won't be as an AD somewhere; perhaps Ross will hire him as "Director of Marketing and Pizza for the Miami Dolphins" or something).
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Got it||
I agree with that. I still think Hoke should be fired, but b/c he's a bad football coach. This year was his chance to show he had the program in the right direction, and even before the Shane incident, he blew it.
I just wanted to point out I think this "con" for Gundy makes him (along with the other reasons) part of the "pipe dream" area. He's not coming here for many, many reasons.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Not sure if serious||
If you are, I'm not saying that all. Gundy (as opposed to Hoke) did have the advantage that he and his AD were on the same page. They issued statements that matched up saying "We do things the right way. However, we've formed a commission to look into it" and 'poof', it went away.
As noted elsewhere, no one at OSU cared b/c a) a few of these allegations were readily sketchy and b) much more importantly, Gundy is winning. That makes a lot of issues get swept under the rug.
However, if UM wanted to hire him, that rug will get pulled out -- so that's why I highly doubt (amongst other reasons; as noted, Gundy is an Okla. guy and has plenty of money there) Gundy is an option. I think it's more likely we get either of the Harbaughs (and I don't think that's very likely at all) than Mike Gundy.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Of these, David Shaw; and Gundy has a big con||
As Brian noted, he checks off all the key boxes for the power-brokers, including man ball.
One big con for Mike Gundy is that whole SI story about academic fraud, paying players, etc. Some of that allegedly occurred before Gundy (hello Les Miles!) but some of it allegedly did. I know there was some sketchiness to the reporting, but it's not great that OSU's promised "intensive review" of the allegations by a top ex-NCAA official, which was kicked off in September 2013 still has produced nothing more than a year later -- not exoneration, not confirmation -- just nothing. So in effect their response was, "Hey, he's winning football games, isn't he?" Not sure that will fly at UM.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Very little focus on how bad the team has been playing||
Understandable, I suppose, with the feeding frenzy. But UM is 2-3 and on a fast-train to not making a bowl. I know the "communication/concussion" situation is important and hard for everyone not to focus on, but I'm still depressed our team appears to be downright bad at football. Perhaps historically for UM bad.
Who knows? Maybe all this distraction from their performance will allow them to relax/focus/get angry/whatever and play much better, starting on Saturday. Not counting on it, but we can hope.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||The Louisville AD? Who re-hired Bobby Petrino?||
Tom Jurich is well-respected by many sporting types b/c he has built Louisville into a sports powerhouse (awesome in b-ball, respectable or better in football), while also getting them into the ACC.
However, he did just re-hire Bobby Petrino, he of the recent sex scandal / lying about it / misuse of university funds / hiring your mistress for a university job. And when the trustee of Louisville mentioned why they were OK with re-hiring Petrino, he said "College sports are a business, first and foremost." Which Jurich obviously agrees with, by hiring Petrino.
If we don't get Bates or Manuel, I sure hope we don't turn our eyes to Jurich.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Yes, that neurologist should be called to account||
That's literally why he is there. He doesn't have to worry about substitution patterns, defensive fronts, play calls -- just player safety. That's his job, and Sat afternoon was a key time to do it.
From all accounts, he saw that he had a player with a possible head injury. And he somehow didn't take control of the situtation?
Unless someone stopped him from doing an evaluation and holding Shane out (and there's no evidence of that so far, but who knows, maybe a press release at 2AM tmrw will bring new info), that MD should not have a job with UM athletics -- he should be let go, along with Brandon and Hoke.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Only partially good for the MDs; they missed the head injury||
Obviously it's very commendable on their part (and pathetic on the AD & aynone else) if the medical staff stood up to be sure the statement confirmed medically accurate, if embarrasing to UM, information.
However, why should they be let off the hook? Is it not the medical staff that has the primrary responsibility to ensure players with possible head injuries are properly evaluated and before that happens they do NOT get back into thte game? They somehow completely missed that. That's on them -- primary responsibility means it's their job, over Hoke, Nuss, etc. If it's everyone's responsibility, in big groups, it can be no one's responsibility.
There has--correctly, in pretty much everyone's view--been a big push to take the decision on who plays after possible head injuries away from coaches (who want you, generally speaking, to rub some dirt on it and get back in there) to medical staff, who have the proper training to assess the situation, are able to focus on injuries (as opposed to how in-game strategy should be handled) and (in theory) less pressure to re-insert into the lineup an injured player.
UM's medical staff, unless someone heard differently, failed Shane Morris on Saturday. I don't see how you can say any differently. I am 100% sure it was not intentional, but they did.
|3 weeks 1 hour ago||Brandon not only sits in on||
Brandon not only sits in on film sessions, but on all medical evaluations. He's a hands-on guy.
|3 weeks 2 hours ago||We essentially agree||
I am on board with what you are saying about grades, etc.
My simple point is that--today--many, many, many reputable organizations (including medical people) use the term "mild concussion" (e.g., I doubt the Reds are trying to avoid the Nightly News by using the term "mild concussion" to discuss Billy Hamilton's injury from 5 days ago)
Hopefully in the near future they will not use this term, due to education by all involved. But again, I think the focus is on UM's poor procedures (e.g., why didn't anyone tell Hoke that Morris might have had a concussion before his press conference?) rather than Brandon's utilizing the widely-used "mild" terminology.
|3 weeks 2 hours ago||Not really -- "mild" is used all the time||
I agree with you that the field is evolving, but I'm not going to get on Brandon about this. I am 100% confident a medical person told him this, and the term "mild" is used--a lot--with concussions. Look, this is from the Aug 2014 issue of Neurology, one of the top journals in the field.
The American Academy of Neurology's brochure for patient education says that "A concussion is a mild, traumatic brain injury..."
There's numerous more examples.
I fully agree with you that in this case the term "mild" is not ideal, but it is a medical term. David Brandon (who has done enough bad things) didn't make up that term.
|3 weeks 2 hours ago||#1 is not quite accurate||
You are certainly correct that any brain injury should be considered serious. But "mild brain injury" or "mild concussion" is definitely a term still in wide use. Consider:
...and just do a quick search in Google news for "mild concussion" and sports. You'll see all sort of organizations use the term (the MLB, the NHL, etc),
There's plenty to get on UM about in this whole matter. That term is still in wide use, in top medical journals, medical associations, and elsewhere, so I don't think this is one of them.
|3 weeks 2 hours ago||And why wasn't this info released before Hoke's presser?||
If Brandon was trying to make Hoke look even more dumb/incompetent than he has on the sidelines, he couldn't have done a better job than this. Why wasn't this released at 1PM Monday instead of 1AM Tuesday? Way to get on top of things, Dave.
|3 weeks 2 hours ago||Incompetence personified||
Why in the heck would you release a statement at 1am? Even if it has good info, people will discuss that timing and thing something is fishy.
Is the AD's office busy doing something else so important that they couldn't release this at a normal hour? Is he in Hawaii so it's really 6pm their time? Does UM email servers hold on to emails for hours before sending them along?
Dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. Dumb.
|3 weeks 10 hours ago||Crying, hysterical Troy...||
...always good for a laugh, even in dark times.
|3 weeks 15 hours ago||Yeah, that Morris picture is not being used properly||
Joegeo brings up a good point -- that picture (which has the "Look at this photo and tell me he is not concussed, TELL ME" part still on it, which I think it wrong) does not "prove" Morris had a concussion. I wish it would stop being posted/shown like it does.
After posting that picture along with that comment, Brian rightly noted later, the key to that picture is that Shane Morris needed to be properly evaluated for a concussion. That is what needed to happen and as far as anyone can tell, we haven't gotten a remotely satisfactory answer from UM on how a concussion test was conducted (if one was conducted at all).
Looking at a literal snapshot in time is NOT how you can tell if someone has a concussion. It literally takes minutes of time (e.g., looking at pupils, asking questions, doing physical tests and importantly, just sitting the person out for awhile to see if their symptoms change in the next few minutes). That can't be shown in a picture.
|3 weeks 16 hours ago||Absolutely - it's way too early||
No NFL coach is going to express interest in another job while he has a current job, unless things are REALLY odd. I mean, both Harbaugh's are trying to win a Super Bowl -- that's going to take 100% of their time, not to mention the Ray Rice issue (John) and Ray MacDonald & Aldon Smith etc issues (Jim). They got enough on their plate without even more distractions.
I still think the odds are 1% or less for Jim and maybe 10% for John that'd they'd even be seriously interested in the job, so this "news" isn't a big deal for me. But I'm not ruling anyone out at this point.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Excellent work. I need to||
Excellent work. I need to incorporate "Fosbury-flopping" into my everday lingo more often. Most people won't know what it is, but it's wonderful alliteration.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Yep, he will be fired this week||
This is just another small log on the raging fire. As I said yesterday, he was fired--within days--as soon as he made his straight-from-1994 comments about Shane having to take himself out in last night's presser. Completely clueless about modern player safety.
I mean, TIME magazine had a cover story just last week about a HS football player who died after suffering a brain injury on the field. That's just one of many. It's not like this is exactly under the radar stuff.
It's too bad. He deserves to be fired for Michigan's poor on the field performance (e.g., first time with 3 losses in Sept in the history of the program). But this player safety incident is going to be the huge straw that breaks the camel's back.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Why would the board of regents approve that?||
I liked Moeller as a coach. From all I can tell from afar, he's a good guy. But beyond Moeller's age, him being out of the coaching game for over a decade, and him (potentially) not wanting to undermine his good friend Hoke, why would the board of regents and Schlissel approve Moeller? Remember, Moeller was fired from UM twenty years ago. It was messy.
I mean, if Brandon comes to them and says, "We're going to fire Brady, and I want to replace him with Gary Moeller," you don't think they'd say "Wait -- didn't this university fire him for a drunken public behavior 20 years ago? Why do we want him representing the university? What's to say that won't happen again? You're telling me there's no one currently on staff, who we've already vetted and paid, to do this job for 8 games?" Etc.
That likely wouldn't be fair, b/c (as far as I can tell) Coach Mo wouldn't be risk for any incidents, but you've got to remember regents tend to risk-averse people. I would be shocked if they went for it.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Unfortunately, that very likely wouldn't work||
Gary Moeller is 73 years old. Much more importantly, he has been out of coaching for over a decade -- his last job was in 2003 for the Bears.
I think it would be unfair, to him, to ask him to step into the middle of a season when he has (literally) been out of the game so far. How could he get up to speed in reasonable amount of time?
I thought he was a very good coach during his time, but that time is over. If it wasn't, he'd still be coaching (or at least be an advisor) somewhere.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Fair enough -- point is, they are lower reaches of Pac-12||
There is no perfect analog in the B1G -- perhaps Purdue is a better one. But of the Pac-12 programs, historically USC, UCLA, Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona State and Colorado have all been easily better (e.g., multiple conference championships, plus multiple big bowl wins, a few have national titles).
Point is, to get that program to "elite" (which, in my mind, is having high-level success with some consistency--i.e., our Sugar Bowl win in 2011 didn't get us back to "elite" b/c it was just one year) is something that has not been done before. If RR (or anyone else) does that at Arizona, it will be something quite new.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Here you go...||
Of course, he's more candid and sounds like he has much more of a clue, even on things he screwed up. In other words, he actually says something -- you can disagree with it (e.g., the fact they always go for it on 4th down on that side of the 50) but at least you know he's following an actual strategy.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Arizona is the Indiana of the Pac-12||
That program has basically never had real success. They are the only original Pac-10 team to never be to a Rose Bowl. Ever. To build an "Oregon" out there (which was helped, in no small part, but Nike money) would be one of the greatest feats of all-time.
And this year they are starting a RS Fr QB, i.e., someone just as experienced as Shane Morris. Their guy has thrown for 1450 yards in 4 games. It seems like it would take Shane 14 games to reach that.
So maybe they'll never become elite, but (unbelievably to me) you can say the same about Michigan right now. Arizona's program is easily in better shape than ours. That's unbelievable with our resources, but true. I mean -- who had a better record last year? Who will this year? Who would you bet would next year?
It's not pretty.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Umm....what's your number so I can call you?||
1) Arizona hasn't been that impressive this year, but they are 4-0. You'd be hard-pressed to convince me Minnesota is better than Cal, and whether Arizona's hail mary was complete or not, at least Arizona was competitive in that game. We were not, at all, against Minnesota.
2) More importantly, Arizona beat Utah last year and thumped a top 5 Oregon team last year, 42-16. We literally haven't had a victory over a team that highly ranked late in the year in over a decade.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||It doesn't have to Brandon; Prez Schlissel can do it||
Not having an acceptable protocol for student safety, in today's day and age, is a huge no-no. From Hoke's comments, it sounds like we literally do not have one. Or if we do, we weren't following it.
This goes above the AD -- the regents and president will say, "Wait...you don't have anyone who--when a student looks like he might have a concussion who actually verifies it? You rely on the student to take himself out?" and they'll have Hoke's own words to show, he--in fact--does not have any idea on this important topic. Combine that with historic-level losing, fans leaving in droves, and Hoke is history. Sooner rather than later.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Yep, that's why I think he will be fired, this week||
His presser is galactically stupid. That statement might have worked in 1994, but in 2014...please.
The new prez is going to learn about this, and make sure Hoke is gone. He has the power to do it. Hoke is not going to resign, he's going to need to be fired. And I will honsetly be surprised if it doesn't happen.
In 2014, you can NOT be that clueless on player saftety unless (let's be honest here) you are winning at a high level (e.g., if Les Miles said something like this, he'd probably get away with it). Record-level of losing AND epic cluelessness on player safety? He's fired.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah, that was one depressing sideline||
There was barely any interaction btw the players. At some points, where you would think a junior/senior would be rallying people around (or at least a coach), they were all just standing there.
And the QB group didn't seem to interact at all. Maybe I missed it, but it seems like Morris went in, he went out, sat by himself, wash/rinse/repeat.
Oh well. I hope they sort it out. They're a bunch of good guys on the team and if they can keep it together, maybe next year (with better coaching and more experience), their talent will shine and they can pile up some W's. But based on what I saw today, if any of them decide to leave, that's their decision -- I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||The whole team looked shell-shocked||
I was at the game, across from the UM bench. I had my bincoulars and since the on field product was so bad, I took to watching the UM sideline during breaks in play in the 2nd half. For the most part, they all were just standing there, stone-faced, while their world collapsed on them.
Even more weird, after Morris' second turnover (i.e., before he got injured), I found him on the sideline. He was just sitting there! No coach going over plays, or reviewing technique, or even bucking him up. He was just sitting there, like a lump.
Then I went over to Garnder, who seemed relaxed and had a bemused smile on his face. I'm not suggesting, at all, that we has happy UM was losing b/c the offense was floundering so bad, but his face suggested, "Y'all thought I was the problem, huh? Look at that nonsense we've done today."
And of course, Hoke was just either clapping his hands and/over hunched over looking at the field. I'm not sure what he does.
Thank goodness I left at the end of the third quarter (where I even I, 500 feet away, could see Morris was limping after a hit). What a total debacle.
Hoke should be fired, tomorrow. He doesn't deserve to finish it out. And Brandon should announce he will be stepping down in December, to let a new AD find a new coach.
That kind of performance can't go on without an answer from UM administrators.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||My desperate need to win level is much higher||
I understand why Brian put it so low, but on a basic level, if this team can NOT beat a bad Minny team, at home....I highly doubt I will pay attention to much of the rest of the season. So I am at least at an 8.
I mean, I know 10-2 and 9-3 (which were common record predictions before the season) are very, very likely pipe dreams now, but a loss to Minn. means we likely won't even have a winning record -- the floor could be 4-8 or 3-9. I have no desire to spend much time with that.
Even more importantly, it would undercut one of the pillars of the "Hey, Hoke might not be a good coach, but at least we have stockpiled some talent, so next year with Harbaugh/Miles/Gruden/etc will be a lot better." Teams with good talent, even with coaching issues, need to be bad teams at home.
So, just win, baby.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||The whole damn thing doesn't||
The whole damn thing doesn't make any sense.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Sure they are - for the foreseeable future||
I'll give you one example -- is anyone on this board NOT going to watch the UM/Minn game this weekend (which is on ABC/ESPN) because of this? My guess is that number is 0%.
More globally, they dominate in the ratings and have vacuumed up the key properties. As was (coincidentally) pointed out yesterday, the #2 sports network is not NBCSN or Fox Sports but ESPN 2 (by a large margin, in terms of ratings).
People will go to where the content is. ESPN has that for the next 8-10 years -- all the other stuff is just interesting to talk about.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Not really, paycheck-wise (for all the pedants in the house)||
Rice lost 1/8 of his pay for his 2 game suspension (2/16).
Assuming Simmons was suspended without pay (which I don't think is even the case, but let's go with it), he lost 1/17 of his pay for his 3 weeks of (3/52).
That said, lots of people would make the comparison you made. But I don't think ESPN cares; at this point, they're too big too fail.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||A huge company can't let a top employee taunt them||
Bill Simmons is running one of their key units, Grantland. You can't have a top employee saying "You leave me alone. Please, call me and say I’m in trouble. I dare you." and shoving in his bosses faces that somehow, he gets to do what he wants.
He's been in trouble with ESPN multiple times before (I think this is his fourth suspension?), so if they let him go with no punishment, what's to stop Olbermann/Scott/Davis/Fowler (you name it) from going off about whatever subject they have a vehement opinion about in a profane (if bleeped) way and then saying, "Go ahead. Try and do something to me."
Don't mess with the bull. You get the horns.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Who are you addressing? I'm talking about DG at WR||
I don't agree with putting Shane as the starting QB, but if they do, fine. It's not like DG has been good this year.
But neither has Shane. So putting DG at WR when a) Shane could get hurt and b) Shane could perform poorly (as he unfortunately has so far, in limited time) are real possibilities, would be downright foolish.
Whether Shane does or does not start against Minn, it is quite possible we'll need to use the new backup QB at some point to win a game (or three). I'd much rather that be DG than Bellomy or Speight.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||The chances should be zero||
If Shane starts, I would consider it a fireable offense to put DG in at wide receiver. If (god forbid) Shane gets hurt, are you telling me it's Bellomy time? I know this season hasn't gone as planned, but the B1G is weak -- I still want to at least go to a bowl game.
It's already clear DG has been affected by the constant switching of offense coordinators, offensive philosophies, OL shakiness (which has led to him possibly being injured), RB's not being as good as we thought and, finally, his own unsteady play.
He does NOT need to also be worrying about a freakin' position change and brush up on how to run out routes and his double moves.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||He coaches for the Packers now||
Speaking of the Zooker, I saw him on the sidelines during last week's Lions-Packers game. Apparently, he is an "Asst Special Team Coordinator."
I have no idea if he's good at that job, but the man does have a magnifcent head of hair -- very easy to pick out in a crowd of coaches.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||One positive||
Jourdan Lewis is as tenacious at running down screen passes as Anna's zombie husband is at running down cars.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||You hire someone else, b/c that gives you a better chance||
I'm not being glib. Unless we rattle off a (very unlikely, but hey, who knows?) B1G championship-performance these next 8 games, we'll have significant proof it isn't going to work for Brady Hoke at Michigan. Even if we kept him here for four more years.
So while there is no guarantee someone else would be better, there is a better chance "Mr. Random New Guy w a Better Track Record than Hoke" will compete for titles than Brady Hoke. Because we already know (with 98% certainity, with only the next 8 games to confirm it's 100%) that Brady Hoke can't do that.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Good quote, but Canham was in desperate times||
I mean, from that same artice: "We hadn't sold out the Ohio State game in 14 years." Let me repeat that -- the biggest game in UM's schedule had NOT sold out in over a decade! For other games, UM had tens of thousands of empty seats. UM in 2014 has challenges, but nothing like what Canham faced.
Canham was (perhaps to a fault) willing to do almost anything to get anyone to a UM game. I'm sure he would have done some of the things Brandon has done (e.g., Beyonce; James Bond/jet packs; UTL; uniformz) as those -- in theory -- get people to the stadium and/or to watch the game.
But how does "Chobani + M" get more people to the game or more interested in football? It's simply Chobani giving UM money to promote Chobani.
I mean, go look at the Chobani press release. See anything about getting more people to appreciate/like UM football, like all the crazy stuff Canham did? UM (and OSU and Oregon, etc) are just target markets, selling out their "nonprofit" brand for more money ---money that does us no good, except so that administrators can dive, Scrooge McDuck like, into huge piles of cash.
As has been said, it makes people less "fans" than "customers" -- and that's not good, long-term, for UM.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Thx, but I'm waiting for a better deal||
I'm going to this game, and I've been watching StubHub. I think it's quite possible I can get ~20 Yd line tix for $50 (definitely for $60) a piece.
I don't even want to think what prices will be if we, God forbid, lose this weekend.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||There is a big difference btw Hoke and Ferentz||
While there are definite similarities, the reason Ferentz is going anywhere is he has--at key junctures--won, and won, big at Iowa.
In Year 4, he won the B1G and went to the Orange Bowl, the first of three straight Top 10 finishes (capped off by a Year 6 Cap One Bowl win and another B1G title).
Then some mediocrity followed, along with some grumbling, and just when it started to get a bit hot, he had another uptick, winning the Orange Bowl in Year 11. That's when NFL teams came calling (2009) and he got his ridiculous contract (through 2020).
So Ferentz can't (readily) be fired is b/c he parlayed very good seasons into Iowa panicking and offering him a huge contract. Hoke can DEFINITELY be fired as a) he doesn't have Ferentz record of success (though, who knows, hopefully we can win the B1G this year), b) he doesn't have a huge, lengthy contract and c) UM has infinitely more money than Iowa.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||I totally back this coach||
I understand coaches of UM, Alabama, ND, etc can't do these type of plays, but I appreciate the fact the coach did it just b/c it was fun AND did not hurt the actual football play in any way (the alternative was for the guy to just stand there).
Besides, it's fun to learn there is a football technique called "The Fainting Goat."
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Hey, they beat the Fighting Camels 66-0 last week!||
Seriously, I just looked that up -- App State beat the Campbell Fighting Camels 66-0 last weekend. I had never heard of Campbell University (apparently it is a Baptist-school in NC) and their nickname is quite interesting. The women's basketball team is the "Lady Camels".
Back on point -- App State and Miami are both equally bad in 2014. Thus, if we don't beat Miami (NTM) in similar fashion to how we beat App State ~10 days ago, we've got even bigger problems than we thought.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Yea, I'm not going to care what James Harrison has to say||
"Harrison was arrested in March 2008 and was charged with simple assault and criminal mischief stemming from a domestic altercation with his girlfriend, Beth Tibbott."
|6 weeks 13 hours ago||Oh, "that" MSU(!) ;) As I||
Oh, "that" MSU(!) ;)
As I said, not a big difference. We collapsed at the end of the year, giving up copious amounts of points (which we'd done all year) and that was that. Could have been to FSU (Florida State, Fresno State or Ferris State) and it wouldn't have mattered.
|6 weeks 13 hours ago||I know why we lost; 31-0 was another matter||
Oh I know the missed FGs and our relative lack of production on 3rd/4th down was key. But still losing by more than 4 TDs, with that box score, takes some doing.
|6 weeks 14 hours ago||Those are all recruiting rich areas||
As has been shown by numerous recent articles (and our wonderful expansion of the B1G on to the Atlantic coast), UM's traditional recruiting ground of MI, OH and Chicago are nothing compared to, say, Texas, Florida or Louisiana. All those other schools you mention have huge pipelines into those areas.
Players are key. Those schools have ready access to better players than UM does. Winning big at UM (or MSU or OSU, for that matter) is far from impossible, but you have less margin for error b/c the top recruits are typically not in your backyard.
|6 weeks 14 hours ago||Who knows? UM does not inspire a lot of confidence||
While I thought the ND game was 50/50, I am shocked that it ended up 31-0. Even when I look at the box score, I don't know how that happened. So I have no certainity that we won't find a way to lose to one (or more) of the mediocrities that litter our schedule.
The only game I'm taking for granted is next week (I'll be at a street party and, by choice, won't spend one minute looking in on the game). The rest of the games, who knows?
|6 weeks 14 hours ago||It will be "forced" upon him||
" I think Hoke keeps his job even with 7 wins this season again..." I can not see that happening. At all.
That would likely mean losses to ND (a historic blowout), to MSU (likely a blowout), OSU (who knows) and two other teams from the worst "major" conference in America (or Utah, which isn't much better). All the people who matter -- fans, donors, alum players, recruits -- will not be OK with that.
A change would be made, even if we don't have assurance who the replacement would be. Because the sentiment (quite understanably, I think, if we go 7-5 again) would be, "I don't know who the next coach of UM will be, But he can't be worse than Hoke."
|6 weeks 14 hours ago||Not that it matters much, but MSU was well before that||
For that 7-3 going into Wisky, one of those losses was to MSU. And people were quite surly even before kick-off (I was at the game); one of the worst moods at a home game I can remember.
Getting blown out did not help, but even if we lost 48-42 (instead of 48-28), it wouldn't have made much of a difference for RR's tenure at UM. UM's defense was horrible, we were losing games, and that was all that mattered. The margin of defeat was just a cherry on top.
|6 weeks 14 hours ago||But that's not how it works -- change will be demanded||
I hear you that it would be nice to keep Hoke unless, say, John Harbaugh become available (highly unlikely). But if the team doesn't win enough--and even 9 wins might not be "enough" as everyone, including fans, realize how bad the B1G is--it will become shoot first and ask questions later. Big-time donors, player alums, and fans in general will be PO'd.
"Brinks trucks" and "backing them up" will be referenced, and we'll be forced to spend December wondering if Jim Harbaugh will leave for UM in the middle of a 49ers playoff run (pro tip: no, he won't). It will then be "Process II: The Reckoning".
Not looking forward to that at all. So let's hope you're right and we're on our way (somehow) to 9-10 wins, with one of them over OSU, and it all can be avoided.
|6 weeks 14 hours ago||Neither does any of our opinions, I guess||
I realize I'm not the AD. But I can still recognize the reality of the situation. If you think Brandon keeps Hoke in any situation beyond what I mentioned above (e.g., 8-4 with losses to ND, MSU, and let's say Penn State and Utah), well then I guess we'll just have to wait a couple months and find out.
Hopefully, we'll go 10-2 and this will all be moot. But my guess is that's not the case.
|6 weeks 14 hours ago||The downvotes suggest people still aren't facing reality||
We went through this a bit over the spring/summer, with many, many posters asserting Hoke was not on the "hot seat" or merely had to have a decent season to surivive ("the OL is young!" "2015 is the year"). That might be "fair", but in today's college football, that couldn't be more wrong. You can't be below average (and well below "elite"), typically losing to your main rivals (often badly) 3 years in a row. And never sniffing a B1G title or Rose Bowl in 4 years. I think it's pretty simple for the regular season:
- 7 wins or less: fired
That's it. I don't think it gets more complicated than that.
|6 weeks 16 hours ago||Wishful thinking, but at least the chance is above zero||
- Jim Harbaugh is an NFL guy and he has not demonstrated any recent real love for Michigan. He loves Bo, but UM...?
He hasn't won a Super Bowl, and all accounts make it seem like he is burning to win one. If he leaves SF (real possibility), he'll have his pick of top NFL jobs -- Dallas, New York (Giants or Jets), Bengals, etc -- whatever team has an opening at the end of this year (and at least two of those teams will very likely have an opening for him). NFL teams will fire coaches just to get Jim; he's been that successful.
- Meanwhile, John Harbaugh has already won a Super Bowl, and he now will be dealing with the continual Ray Rice situation all year. Back that up with the fact he actually went to HS in Ann Arbor and seems more attached to UM than Jim (weird, b/c Jim went to UM and John didn't), I say if we need a new coach, back up the brinks truck for John.
I still give it a less than 10% shot, but that's higher than our prospects with Jim.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Yes, it's factually incorrect||
- ND is as "national" as any team in the nation. Their relevance (in terms of fan interest) far exceeds their on-field performance (though obviously their many mediocre seasons has hurt that).
- The writer mentions secondary market tickets only being expensive b/c the series is ending. It would take 10 seconds to see last year's game also had tix that were $250 and above (http://michigan.247sports.com/Board/59424/Contents/UTL-2-Ticket-Question...) and that has been true throughout the series.
- Finally, UM-ND is annually one of the top rated TV games. So the interest is there.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Yep, people are forgetting it was RS Fr QB||
...making his first ever start on the road (and 2nd start overall). He was having a mediocre to poor game (e.g., he missed some wide open guys earlier with bad reads), and you want to limit the chances of mistakes by him.
Having the QB do a pooch punt, which surely is not something he practices often, is not ideal. There are multiple ways that could go bad (e.g., poor shotgun snap that zooms by the QB; QB mishandles snap b/c he's not used to the footwork and gets it blocked).
I didn't love the call of plunging into the line as it seems too "blah", but it was the right call when you have a raw QB who might panic if (say) UTSA blitzed and his "just heave it to the end zone" play went wildly awry. The RB was great all night, and knows what he's doing, so let him have the shot.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Good job by Manning, but man, that's a lot of talking||
Sounds like Manning is doing his usual good work, but it takes a certain kind of mind-set to say, "OK, today I'm going to shoot the breeze for possibly up to 90 minutes with a 16-year old. And that work very well might not lead to anything in terms of a committment."
I knew this already, but recruiting is crazy. Grown men basically begging for teenagers to make up their (understandably) fickle mind that they like you and your school.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||The b-school has changed, but definitely has undergrads||
First, the B-school has had a BBA program for at least 70 years. It's not like Northwestern, which just has a grad program.
Second, about 10-15 years ago, the BBA program went to a 3-year program (from 2-years). Additionally, you can now apply directly out of high school ("preferred admsion for exceptional high school students"), though most come "transfer" from LS&A, etc after their freshman year.
State Fan, either you really screwed up not knowing that or someone at UM really dropped the ball.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Steve Blass is the OG in this "disease"||
For those who haven't heard of this mysterious issue, the most prominent early example of this was Steve Blass, an all-star pitcher with the world champ Pirates.
He had five or six good/great seasons from 1966-1972, and then dropped completely off a cliff, his ERA going from 2.49 to 9.85. And there was nothing physically wrong with him.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Yes, it's not automatic he gets much better||
Brandy is not young -- he has literally decades of habits as a color guy that he has to discard. Pair that with the fact he will still be doing color 16 times a year for the Lions, it makes it twice as hard to "flip the switch."
Here's hoping, but we'll see.
|7 weeks 6 hours ago||Good point -- it was minor league quality||
Brandy was late, wrong, and not descriptive on multiple occasions during the quarter or so I listened. For instance, he blew the id on Smith's TD run (he thought it was Green).
On commercial breaks, I turned over to 1130 to listen to Purdue-WMU. I have no idea who the announcers were, and I'm going to guess they were WAY down the totem pole to be doing a game for two struggling programs. Still, the play-by-play guy for that sixth-tier game sounded much more prepared and competent than Brandy.
Hopefully Brandy improves quickly, b/c I like the idea of two former college teammates announcing games for their alma mater. But I was not impressed by game 1.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Yep, he's had scheme issues||
He's technically an LB, and there were issues b/c there were 4 coordinators in 4 years, and he mentioned being "lost" occasionally, which is never good. But now that it's the same coordinator two years in a row, BG has to just do it. I read an interview a week or so ago where he recognized that, and sounded fired up, so hopefully he'll stay healthy and be productive.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||It's either 3 years or 7 years of "injuries"||
I think the difference in counting is b/c Brady missed the entire 2008 season, but yes, Brady has had multiple years long streaks of being listed on the injury report. He was always "probable" -- it's ridiculous.
For whatever reason, Belichek stopped doing that (consistently) in 2011 -- I wonder if the NFL told him to knock it off?
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Also, Brandon Graham was on the bubble||
He's been affected by injuries, and then (to be frank) so-so performance ever since he was a #1 Eagles pick, and there were reports he might get cut. Thankfully, he made the 53-man roster.
Hopefully, he'll be able to have a good year and make a real impact.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Remember, this is the Patriots||
They're infamous for NHL-like "upper body injury" and listing basically half the team on the injury report week to week.
So, there's no real info on what Gallon's injury (injuries?) are. However, there is a feeling that they want him on the 10-man practice squad, so my guess/hope is they're not too bad.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Brandy has a LOT of room to improve||
I think you guys are letting your hearts (as Brandy seems like a great guy and bleeds maize & blue) get ahead of your ears.
I listened to a little more than one quarter, so perhaps he was lights out the rest of the game, but in that short time I heard him misidentify names, numbers, and yardage, and he was hesitant more than once. Additionally, on the highlights after the game, he pulled "He could go all the way!" for both Smith and Green's long runs (which is not a huge deal, but since they both got tackled well before the 10 yard line, they really weren't that close) and more importantly, he called Smith's TD (after the long run) for Green.
I like the rapport with Dierdorf, but I hope Brandy will get a lot better (which he certainly should, but you never know). I mean, on commercials I switched over to the WMU-Purdue game and their broadcast team sounded more prepared/professional.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Thank god that professor||
Thank god that professor didn't come from the SEC. That domer REALLY would have had it out for him.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||No it's not "huge", but it's good enough||
"Huge" would have been USC, Georgia, FSU, Auburn, Texas, etc. Scheduling an opponent that has not been very good, let alone great*, at any point since 2000 is not "huge."
That said, they are a program from the Pac-12, in a growing city/state that surely has a good amount of UM alums, and they have a good football tradition (e.g., the 1980s and 1990s). So I'll take it.
Who knows how good they will be in 2020, but there is a decent chance. And if not, it is still a good game from an exposure perspective and from SOS.
* Seriously, UW football has been pretty sad for about 15 years. Their high point in that period is 9 wins last year, and 8 wins in 2001. That's ugly.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Reminded me of Pitt||
Either way, why you'd want to re-design your classic uniforms--even for one game--to end up looking like two teams you regularly play is beyond me.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||A better question||
In light of today's board brew-ha-ha, how are the prices for hockey season tickets? ;)
|9 weeks 6 days ago||It's the bait & switch - that's the problem||
As someone who has lived in Chicago and attended the Big Chill, I am completely fine with the idea of an MSU/UM game in Chicago. I am sure it will be well-attended, by many Chicagoland alums. That works for me.
But if I purchase something, and then sometime later, that person says:
And if you're saying people shouldn't be outraged (or even, at less passionate level, care) about this switch, that doesn't make sense to me from the AD perspective -- UM fans shouldn't care if they get to go see a big rival game or not? If they feel someone put something over on them? If that's what the AD is relying on, he seems to be relying on an indifferent fan base, who just cares about "events" not about Michigan. Not a recipe for long-term success. It is "clueless."
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Twin Peaks would break the internet today||
Can you imagine a show that weird in today's world with Twitter, reddit, etc? People would flip out.
Back on topic: these uniformz don't make me sing a pretty song. At least they're not the worst we've ever done, so that is something.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||How dare you speak that way...||
...about the 5th leading shot blocker in UM history!
Besides, Asselin is/was 6ft 11; so that's pretty near 7 feet. Smits, Bradley and Moore easily cleared it.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Josh Asselin||
...now we're back on track.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Gob may not be on board, but I am|
|15 weeks 5 days ago||I guess, but is the USMNT perpetual underdogs?||
I think your analysis is right, but it seems like there is no time limit on this status, which I find interesting. The US has had (some) World Cup success pretty regularly since 1994, yet the US is always the team of the future, it seems. It's a nice status to have with your fans.
I mean, Costa Rica (our CONCACAF brethren) just won a group featuring England, Italy and Uruguay (i.e., as hard as our "Group of Death"), and then beat Greece in the knockout round. Yet I haven't heard one article saying, "How come they do that and we can't? When will it be our year to shine?"
I don't have a problem with it. It's kind of nice to have a fan base that treats their team like a favorite puppy or something (not sure if it's the right analogy, but it's what came to mind).
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Are US fans the only ones like this?||
I don't mean passionate -- that's a given for pretty much every World Cup squad. I mean that they don't seem to really get angry about their team.
I mean, I don't follow Mexican soccer blogs, but when they lost (again) in the knockout round, where they like, "Man, this is disappointing and I'm sad, but it's still wonderful -- can't wait 'til next year!"? My sense is they would be pissed off, but maybe I'm wrong. Same with other countries.
For an example of this outside of mgoblog (and there are many), there's the NY Times game story. There are 400 comments, and while I didn't read every one, it's a mix of "Wow, what a team! I had a fun! Too bad, and I'm sad we lost, but we'll get 'em next time!" and fans from other teams around the world saying, "Nice match, US! Good job, good effort!" It's the most positive comment thread in the history of humanity.
I can't think of another sport, college or pro, where this happens. High school, maybe?
|16 weeks 7 hours ago||Not everyone has the money bags in your avatar's hands||
Obviously $500 is on the lower end, but if you're willing to a) share an apt with someone else (students still do that, don't they?) or b) live outside the actual city Ann Arbor (which many grad students do, e.g., in one of the adjoining townships or in Ypsi), you can find lots of stuff for rent of $1000/mth total, which equals out to $500 a month. And this stuff is not in the 'hood.
If you want to live in the city itself, by yourself, it's easily double (or triple) that, but as a grad student, maybe you don't care as much about being close to the night life and restaurants.
|16 weeks 13 hours ago||Key question - what is the budget?||
If your budget is essentially unlimited, so are the options. If they don't want to spend, say, more than $500/month, that pares things down. So knowing (approximately) what they want to spend is key.
Also important -- do they have a car or will they be relying on bus/walk?
|17 weeks 11 hours ago||No they didn't -- OSU was not good (D-wise) last year||
You're remembering past OSU teams, perhaps. Last year, OSU got lit up on numerous occasions.
Against Clemson, Tajh Boyd threw for 378 yards (5 TDs) and ran for 127 more yards. Clemson had an RB who ran for 69 more yards (on 12 carries).
That's almost 600 yards of total offense. Heck, Cal had 500 yards in offense against them.
They weren't terrible, certainly, but they also weren't good. The OSU offense last year is what carried that team (as shown by Carlos Hyde running through our d-line at will, along with them being able to pass for copious yards).
|17 weeks 2 days ago||Have a fun time and be prepared for 101 questions||
I took my 6-year old and it was a nice time, even though the Tigers lost. And that 101 questions is not an exaggeration -- everything from "Who's pitching?", "Is he any good?", "How fast did he throw it?" "Can you throw it that fast?", "How fast will he throw the next pitch?", "How can you tell it was a curve ball?", "Can you throw a curve ball?", and so on. Thankfully it was a not constant, just machine gun-like every 5-10 minutes or so when something new caught his interest and/or he was following up on one of my comments to my friend (e.g., "Boy, Verlander is struggling!")
And, of course, be ready to spend the usual excessive amount of money at the concession stands.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||Looks good to me||
I stopped getting the U of M plates from the state of MI (which are "fundraising plates") b/c I couldn't stand they had a blue M on a yellow field. It looked dumb.
I just Googled it and see they finally switched it so it looks exactly like the Texas plate (in terms of the block M; the whole MI plate is not maize & blue). A point to the Michigan marketers who made sure our trademark was finally correctly being displayed.
|17 weeks 6 days ago||He's only 31 and he's making his own bad luck||
I was at the game last night, so I got to see his latest debacle first-hand.
- He's only 31. He still should be in his prime (not the middle of it, but def a couple more years). Plenty of pitchers (Halladay, Sabathia, Shields, Lee, Wainright, etc) have done very well/excelled at that age. Now perhaps JV is different, but if so, whoo boy -- the Tigers are in trouble.
- He did have bad luck last night , such as the sawed off, broken bat "hit" that loaded the bases. But Infante's homer was a no-doubter, and he's not exactly Babe Ruth. Plus, JV had plenty of good luck (e.g., guy leaving 2nd base early to get double off on a fly out to center field; Davis throwing a guy out at the plate).
So it's not really bad luck, but bad pitching. His control has been poor and he hasn't been stirking nearly enough people out.
If he doesn't fix it within the next couple of starts, I'd be all for the Tigers sitting him out for 2-3 weeks so he can rest / work on mechanics / whatever. Right now, he's really hurting the team (which is shocking thing to say for someone so talented).
|18 weeks 6 days ago||Fair point, but it's still a problem||
The NFL's tax evasion is nothing compared to, say, Apple's or Pfizer's, but it still terrible that the "NFL League Office" is a non-profit which saves ~$10 million a year in taxes and pays its "non-profit" CEO (Roger Goodell) $35 million a year.
With that in mind, I'm fine if people get upset about it. Just like I'm fine that people are finally realizing the "non-profit" bowls, which pay their chairman $1 million+, are also a joke and a scam. I'll take whatever might lead to little victories we can get.
|19 weeks 4 days ago||I will yell that out loud||
I will yell that out loud this year/next year any time Ty Isaac has a run/catch of 25 yards+ (even if it is straight up the middle of the field).
|19 weeks 4 days ago||If these clips are any||
If these clips are any indication, I look forward to many productive runs by Ty when we are up 48-14 on teams midway through the 3rd quarter.
Seriously though, the Fresno State catch & run was quite nice. Hopefully we'll see a lot that in the future, as that would help Devin out a ton against pressure.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Wow, the Elite 11 stunk Devin's year||
First, congrats to Alex. Seems like a good kid who's on the rise.
Second, have you looked at previous Elite 11's? Usually, a good portion are truly "elite", but 2009 was a tire fire.
Hopefully Alex can be the best in his class, like Devin was, but have a better, more experience OL to lead us to some more W's and championships.
|20 weeks 5 days ago||It's not your fault...it's not your fault||
I'd embed the Good Will Hunting Clip here, but I realized that came out the same year as Austin Powers, so I'll refrain to prevent a continued lack of hipness.
|20 weeks 5 days ago||Exactly - why analyze what you're not looking forward to?||
By this, I don't mean Michigan football (exactly). I mean the fact that it is EXTREMELY likely we will go 8-4 or 9-3 this year. Against an unexciting schedule. Which will likely put us behind two, if not three, of our big rivals. Which sucks.
Hopefully the team will surprise like it did in 2011 and go 11-2 (or better). But that's just it -- that would be a real surprise, and and any honest preview would treat it as such.
So I don't think--when we're 1,000 short--that it's "Meta" Blog stuff. It's UM football and it's performance (and lack thereof).
I just hope to enjoy the watching the games (and not overanalyze it), hope Hoke wins enough (pick your number; I know I have mine) to readily keep his job and thus we won't have to spend next off-season discussing whether Brandon should offer Jim Harbaugh $10 mil/year. That's my big-time goals for this year. Which is not exactly exciting when it's been 10 years since we've won a B1G title.
FWIW, I did support the Kickstarter to support the blog/content and I want to learn more about Nuss. But to find out if our 3rd string TE will contribute and how the LB rotation will develop, etc? Not something I can get fired up for to delve into this year.
|23 weeks 5 days ago||Hmmm. I'll still wait for the||
Hmmm. I'll still wait for the Groupon.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||The team definitely uses 'Jag-wahrs'||
I just spent 3 minutes on their website and their official "Jaguars.com Live!" show and their coach both use "wahrs", so that seems official.
FYI: their most recent video (about the NFL draft) in their Jaguars Media Gallery has a subtitle that refers to QB Aaron Murray's "rock-hard confidence."
I did not click on that video.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||You changed your argument||
- You said "Many students and athletes..." My point is it is not many athletes.
- Regarding students: At U of M, which has a different than most public universities, the % of students from Michigan is still 60%. That 40% out-of-state comes from all over (every state, many countries). There is a huge concentration from NJ/NY/CT, and I'm sure hundreds of folks from VA/MD. But you know where those students will be during the B1G tourney? They will be...in Michigan. It's not much more convenient for them, just b/c their parents live in Greenwich.
- And the B1G is not just about U of M. MSU has 88% of its students in-state. Wisconsin is 75+% WI & MN students. Etc.
So this it all about "expanding the footprint" and alumni. I'm fine with alumni (I am one) but the students should be the primary consideration -- as many as reasonably possible deserve a shot to see their team.
And of course "everyone" wouldn't prefer Indianapolis. I prefer Chicago or Detroit over Indianapolis. Delaney is not calling me.
But this is just another step on the "brand building" of the B1G, that will eventually lead to not much of a brand at all. That's my point.
If you want to have alums on the east coast see games, great -- schedule non-conf games in CT, NJ, NY, MD, etc. But you don't need to add Rutgers or have your tourney (which is multiple games) far away from the vast majority of your fan base.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||'Many'? I don't think so.||
- UM's roster last year: http://www.umhoops.com/information/roster/
- Michigan State roster: http://www.msuspartans.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/msu-m-baskbl-mtt.html
All from Midwest (MI/OH/IN/IL), except a guy from Wyoming.
While I am sure there are one or two (on avg) guys from VA or MD on B1G rosters, the vast, vast majority of them are from the Midwest.
This has zero to do with students and their families. Please don't perpetuate that nonsense.
|24 weeks 6 days ago||Mouton is not really an NFL player||
He has made precisely one NFL tackle. He was wildly overdrafted, everyone thought so at the time, and through injuries/lack of suffiicent talent, he essentially hasn't played yet and I would be surprised if he ever did (he didn't play at all last year).
You are right about Schilling -- I knew I had forgotten someone, so Schilling brings it to 5 players, i.e., the same amount of NFL players in 2 classes as 2009 had in one.
The 2006 did have more depth, but my point still stands: we have been doing below what we need to be in recruiting for almost a decade now. Sometimes well below, but typically below. This unfortunately isn't new.
|24 weeks 6 days ago||Go look at the 2005 and 2006 classes - they're not good||
Except for a handful (literally) of gems/very good players, it's a mess. Not as big a mess as the 2010 class, but a mess nonetheless. Future (not) greats like Eugene Germany, Marques Slocum, Mister Simpson, James McKinney, Justin Schiafano (all alleged 4 stars) are all over the list. There's more where that came from.
You would figure if you truly have two Top 10 classes, that would give you a lot of NFL players, right? Well, out of the 42 players, there were basically four: B Graham, S Brown, M Manningham and Z Mesko. Two a freaking year.
The 2009 class alone (which certainly was not good overall) has four or five by themselves: Lewan, Schofield, Gallon (who will all get drafted), plus Denard and Will Campbell.
The really unfortunate fact is UM has been screwing up in recruiting for close to a decade. We've had our moments, but not enough sustained ones to be a top program -- which is why we haven't won a B1G title (and forget national relevance) in basically a decade.
Hopefully things will go our way this year and we can keep moving forward. If we have another coaching change, we likely will be looking at another mess for years to come.
|25 weeks 3 days ago||Legality isn't the point - disproportionate penalty is||
As hundreds have pointed out, players get far lesser suspensions for far worse criminal activities (e.g., drunk driving, punching girlfriends, breaking and entering). If you want to have a week or two suspension, OK, I guess. But a whole year strike me of "Reefer Madness" type nonsense.
And I say this as a non-smoker. It doesn't affect me personally if pot gets legalized. But the penalties for it, in many avenues of life, are still ridiculous.
|25 weeks 3 days ago||I thought of the union, too||
This type of ridiculous rule (and knowing the NCAA rule book, there are probably dozens of similarly stupid ones) is exactly why it's a good idea for players unionize, or at least to seriously discuss it.
- Driving while intoxicated, where you put yourself and other's lives at risk? No biggie, maybe miss a game or two.
- Smoke some dope on your own time, risking the lives of exactly zero people? Out for a year.
The sooner the NCAA gets blown up, the better.
|25 weeks 5 days ago||Somewhat agree, but you're undervaluing Ducks win||
Under Hoke and under RR, and even under Carr for his last 5 years, UM has not beaten a late season Top 5 team in something like a decade. And not only win, but crush them (42-16).
Our "high profile" wins over ND were nice, but were against over-ranked, overrated teams. Oregon was a legit top 5 team last year when AZ beat them -- and U of M hasn't beaten one of those in something like 11 years (which makes me sad)
But even if that one win is a fluke (which is possible, though he's already beat other ranked teams in his two years at AZ), it's far, far to early to say "didn't work here, same result in AZ".
Arizona had a bettter year than Michigan last year, which stinks, and after reviewing our roster and watching the spring game, I'm not that confident we'll be a lot better this year. Hopefully I'm wrong and just depressed after watching our offense at the spring game.
|26 weeks 4 days ago||Can we get some daylight?||
I know it is more dramatic to use a black background, but how about showing the uniforms in a setting that, at least somehwat, represents how they will actually be seen? Perhaps on a football field in the daylight?
As it is, they look fine, but you can't really tell because there are shadows all over everything.
|26 weeks 5 days ago||What I like is how the Pistons game ended||
Didn't see it, but check the box score b/c of this KCP stuff. The Pistons (shockinigly!) blew a late lead to lose by one. Their final three shots:
- Brandon Jennings misses a 3-point jump shot from 29 feet out.
- Derek Fisher blocks a Kentavious Caldwell-Pope layup from 2 feet out.
- Brandon Jennings misses a 3-point jump shot from 31 feet out.
Surprised Jennings wasn't shotting from half-court with his great shot selction.
An appropriate way to end an atrocious season.
|26 weeks 6 days ago||I doubt this is true||
They play a type of music (blues-based hard rock) that ages as well as any "popular" music; many of their heroes played in to their 70s and 80s.
More importantly, they still make tens of millions of dollars through touring. If they announced an arena/stadium tour tomorrow, they could sell 10-20,000 seats in most markets, and many times that in LA, NYC and most Europe and South America. Bands "retire" and then realize, "Hey, I could be making millions!" and then they are back in the game.
I will say, I just happened to watch a bit of a ~2-3 year old concert of their's on AXS last night (totally random; didn't even realize I had that channel). I thought the drummer was going to have a heart attack/stroke from the 2nd song on; he looked gassed. Of course, it didn't help he smoked a cigarette (with no hands) thru their entire 3rd song, but I'm sure that's not their worst vice.
|26 weeks 6 days ago||Thought the same thing re Borges||
When I read in the post"...the folks around here who fought the rearguard action for Team Borges with such heroic ferocity last season..." I thought, "Brian just put up the Space Coyote bat signal."
|27 weeks 14 hours ago||Interesting comparsion, but only goes so far||
In terms of "legacy", I agree that both somewhat underachieved, but GRIII hit far more big shots at UM than Jamal, and will have a prominent place on any highlight reel for two different teams that accomplished a lot; Jamal didn't have that. Thus, I think GRIII easily made more of a mark and will be remembered fondly by most in a couple years (while many don't even remember Jamal at all, he was here for such a short time for a team that didn't really do anything).
Beyond that, as you probably know, Crawford had eligiblilty issues that GRIII did not, so that affected Crawford's tenure at Michigan. More importantly, I think, is Crawford was a better player. He was a Top 10 pick and he's justified it by being a vet who regular scores 15pts + a game. Not an all-star, but a very valuable sixth man.
GRIII has as much talent, but there is no way he will be a Top 10 pick, so I'm less sure about this decision. Heck, I agree with many others who think there's a good chance he won't be a 1st round pick at all (though I could certainly see some established team, e.g., San Antonio, taking a late 1st rd flyer on GRIII b/c of his pedigree, talent and good citizenship).
In any case, best to GRIII. Hope it works out and he has a 15-year career like Jamal.
|28 weeks 11 hours ago||Hugely different era - teams are not as good now||
This can't be said enough. It's like when people (e.g., ESPN) were making a big deal out of Doug McDermott being the 7th (or whatever) highest scorer of all time. Players today play 5-10 more games per season AND many great scorers (e.g., Pete Maravich, Oscar Robertson) were not allowed to play their freshman year. So it's not that meaningful.
I mean compare this year's Florida team (the consensus #1) with Duke in '91-'92 (the consensus #1). Even though both teams are/were senior/junior-laden, they are not even comparable in terms of talent.
- Duke had Laettner (very hateable, but one of the best college players of all-time and a solid pro), Grant Hill (great in college & pros), Danny Hurley (great in college, #7 NBA draft pick), Cherokee Parks (good in college, #12 NBA draft pick who played for 10 years) and a few other good college players.
- Florida has a bunch of very good/good college players with experience, who worked hard as a team, but none will be considered an all-timer in college, let alone the NBA (e.g., none will be a first round pick). Yet, b/c they had good talent and great experience, along with an excellent coach, they were #1 in the nation and made it to the Final Four.
And '91-'92 Duke barely made the Finals! That's b/c they had to tough out wins over other experienced/talented teams (e.g., Calbert Chaeney's Indiana).
|28 weeks 13 hours ago||This was not misinterpreted ; people are/were losing jobs||
She was not saying this in a vacuum. It wasn't like she was saying, "I'd kill for a bologna sandwich" and (of course) she wouldn't literally kill somone.
If you look at her full quote, she referenced "The Ledger almost died in June, right?" That was in reference to the fact in June 2013 the Star-Ledger's publisher said that the paper would close if employees didn't give big concessions.
Now, 9 months later, she brings it up in a journalism class. So she knows the Ledger is on shaky ground and people are/were getting laid off. Of course, she didn't know over a hundred people would be fired a month after she talked to this class, but it's not like it wasn't on the table.
Now, your larger point whether they DESERVE to lose their jobs (e.g., if they are making up stories or spinning things excessively negative) is not something I can comment on. But this sounds like it was personal -- she is mad that some sports columnists/reporters thought she and her coaches were doing a bad job should be fired, so she thinks all of them should be fired.
|28 weeks 5 days ago||Wolverines!||
Nice pic. Does this mean we will see Papa Hewlett some day at a chain link fence, right before the OSU game, yelling at his son, "Avenge me! AVENGE. ME!"
|28 weeks 6 days ago||Really? If so, sorry.||
I thought I kept it pretty general, but honestly I wasn't really worried about spoilers for an epsiode that's about 10 years old.
If you are watching the show -- hope you are enjoying it; I sure did. I wish I had the time to re-watch old episodes, but perhaps that will be better 5/10 years from now, as I will have forgotten much of what went on.
|28 weeks 6 days ago||Why be mad?||
As the only mgoblog person with a Lost avatar, I feel I need to comment here.
G4 (I think that's the channel) shows re-runs of Lost and the other day I caught the finale to Season 2 (the hatch exploding) and I was caught up again. Great acting, set design, interesting characters, etc. I then went and re-watched "The Constant" for the first time in three years and had to leave the room toward the end b/c it was getting dusty in there.
Now, I liked the series ending, and loved the show overall, so perhaps it is easier for me to view old episodes (which I rarely do, b/c I don't have the time). But give it a whirl -- Locke is still Locke, Desmond is still Desmond. Regarding the last episode, you can just refuse to listen to Jack's father and pretend it never happened, if that works for you.
|29 weeks 3 days ago||Interesting||
I don't think that at all, but OK. The more, the merrier.
I guess my thought is that considering yourself a Wolverine has to come from a place of meaningfulness or passion -- attended the school, worked there, attended games, etc -- not just, say, having a good customer experience at a health care clinic for a routine checkup.
|29 weeks 3 days ago||What a mess of examples||
People who "live in Ann Arbor"? Why would they be Wolverines? Did U of M annex the entire city (I know it may seem like when you drive by campus with the constant construction, but I don't think they have yet)?
If you work for or attend the school, obviously you can call yourself a "Wolverine" ; you are directly affilliated with the university.
As far as the literally hundreds of thousands of people who go to U of M Health System for treatment, I don't even know what to say about that. I am certainly not going to care what a family of a kid with cancer calls themselves; they can literally do whatever they want. But if someone goes to get a mole checked out the UM Health Clinic in Canton, are they all of a sudden "Wolverines"?
|29 weeks 4 days ago||"...and at times looked unmotivated"||
Any time you here that from outside observers, it's not a good sign for the coach.
Red needs to figure out the next step for him and thus the program -- is he (planning) on being here one more year? Three? More?
This is where David Brandon gets to earn some of his money -- helping a living legend figure out how to go out gracefully, and hopefully (but not necessarily b/c the last two seasons have shown nothing is guaranteed) on top.
|29 weeks 4 days ago||I don't see that - I'd be fine w ~60 teams||
The NFL has 32 teams. Interest in it is sky high.
If Div-1A all of sudden went from 110 programs to 60 programs, why would interest in those 60 programs (UM, OSU, USC, etc) go down? There is now less product, and that scarcer product is now (on avg) of higher quality -- I would think interest would go up, if anything.
Plus, as stated, Div-II and Div-III schools are unaffected by this. That's still hundreds of programs.
What truly matters in terms of wide-spread interest is at the high school level. That feeds into college, which feeds into the NFL.
|29 weeks 4 days ago||Fine by me - this is big boy stuff, as it always has been||
There is no law that requires EMU, WMU, etc to play Div-1A football. They already are being bled dry trying to keep up with the Phil Knight's (oops, I mean Oregon) and T Boone Pickens' (oops, I mean Ok State) of the world. This ruling is just another (large) pebble on the scale that already is heavily, heavily tilted to favor "BCS" teams.
My desire to watch UM football will not be changed one iota that if instead of playing EMU, Miami (YTM), Ball State, we played BCS schools instead. And that assumes cross-division games would be banned, which they are not now (hello, App State!) so I'm not sure why they would be in the future.
|29 weeks 4 days ago||Did free agency & unions lead to the demise pro sports?||
I need to know, exactly, how this will lead to the 'demise' of college football.
Is U of M, OSU, MSU, etc going to drop football now that they might need to direct a few extra million directly to the players, in the form of stipends and or better health care, instead of buiding ever bigger and fancier edifices for non-revenue sports and giving extra $$$ to coaches & admins of all stripes?
The fact is, just like with baseball players in the 1970s, players deserve a larger cut of the literally billions of dollars floating through the sports landscape. Just b/c you feel a scholarship, room & board and academic support is "enough" doesn't make it so. It should be up to the workers (and that's what they are -- workers) to negotiate with their employers to figure that out.
|29 weeks 5 days ago||Size matters||
Van Andel fits 10,000 people. What are the average amount of people that attend a D-League game -- 2,000? 3,000?
From a size perspective, the DeltaPlex is perfect. It's holds about 6,000 and won't have scheduling conflicts like Van Andel, which hosts big time acts when they come thorugh town.
|31 weeks 4 days ago||Didn't need to expand the conference to do that||
I can appreciate it being convenient for UM's sizeable alumni base on the East Coast. But if that was important, why not schedule regular out of conference games there - Rutgers, Maryland, BC, Virginia, etc? For bball, it's even less important to add them, as we regularly play in NYC now (not to mention road ACC/B1G games).
Instead, we get to add Rutgers home/away in bball, and only get to play teams like Indiana, Wisky, Iowa, and Purdue once. That is not a good trade, in my opinion.
I will hate this move, always. I hope it falls on its face and we can spin these two schools off (Rutgers especially) to some super-duper ACC/Big East conglomerate mega-conference in 2025 or something (pipe dream, I know).
|31 weeks 6 days ago||I agree it's much better -- and interesting group dynamics||
This is much better than the screwed-up policy they had last year.
I do find it interesting, how for smallish groups (say 4-8 people), you may have to dump a friend/roommate who will significantly bring down your average. "Sorry, Braden. You'll have to sit with another group of people b/c you only attended two games last year." The peer pressure (to go to games) and resentment (if you are shunned) should be worth a few MGoBoard board posts.
|32 weeks 13 hours ago||No question it works||
Look at the top NCAA Div-1A winners of all-time: Coach K, Boeheim, Knight, Dean Smith, Rupp, Calhoun. All are/were famous for getting on refs. There's a reason for that: it works, especially when you are a respected coach, which Beilein certainly now is.
I don't want him to become Knight (or Izzo or Ryan, for that matter). Hopefully, Beilein will do it judiciously, as he seems to do now (e.g., I think flipping out after they missed two obvious travels, and might have missed that charge call, makes sense to me). But I would argue that, before this season, he didn't do it enough. Because again -- it works.
|32 weeks 13 hours ago||No need. I'm good with||
No need. I'm good with Woodson.
|32 weeks 1 day ago||I agree. But "C-Wood"?||
It was great seeing Woodson there and fun he briefly got in the photo.
But does anyone really call him C-Wood? If you said "Woodson", would any UM fan, even a casual one, not know who that is?
And are we calling Desmond Howard "D-Ho"? And Tom Harmon "T-Harm"?
Small thing, but just seems weird to me.
|32 weeks 4 days ago||More to fonts than size||
Go look at that picture again. Lucky for us, the "Wolverines" and "Louisville" guys are the exact same distance/placement. You can read the "Louisville" one, but the "Wolverines" one looks decidedly more blurry. Why? The difference in font type.
Louisville's is more thick and "blocky" which makes their letters more distinct. Ours looks more like an italicized, curved version of something, which doesn't work as well when the letters are already on the small size.
|32 weeks 4 days ago||Correct - visibility is key to uniforms||
These are fine, I guess, and aren't nearly as bad as our "hideaway numbers when exposed to sunlight" Outback Bowl jerseys. But "Wolverines" has too many letters for the amount of space with that font choice. Does adidas not care whether you can easily read what's on their jerseys?
Just look at Kansas or Louisville -- you know who that is.
That said, these are better than "Sic 'em Bears". Uggh.
|32 weeks 6 days ago||They beat Georgia in the||
They beat Georgia in the Sugar Bowl, 38-35.
|33 weeks 6 days ago||It's not the 1970s; U of M takes hundreds a year from CCs||
Personal experience is always helpful, but bringing the example of one person from 40 years ago doesn't show anything, one way or the other. I had two friends -- one 20 years ago and another 10 years ago -- who successfully transfered 60 credits, each, from Michigan CCs to U of M.
But beyond our anecdotes, college has changed a great deal due to costs, shared degree programs, etc. For example, about a year ago UM formalized a program with Washtenaw CC to allow ease of transfer credits from both schools. More importantly, this story notes "100 students transferred from WCC; overall, 377 students transferred to U-M from community colleges (in 2012)".
So you're telling me U of M has the ability to take 350-400 kids a year from CCs, yet somehow can't figure out how to have any of those kids be football players?
I'm not naive. I am 100% positive some of the HS seniors we take only got into U of M b/c they are very good at football. Hopefully, they are succesful students while at U of M, but football was the reason they got in. The same standards can be applied to junior/community colleges.
|33 weeks 6 days ago||Oh, I agree it unlikely we||
Oh, I agree it unlikely we pass Syracuse (unless we go 7-0 down the strech). But my main point is I think Syracuse is far from a lock as #1 seed, as they are 50/50, at best, to win their conference.
|33 weeks 6 days ago||Syracuse locked?||
I might be misreading what Brian means by "locked", but the statement "Syracuse is locked into one spot" in Buffalo does not seem accurate, to me. Syracuse is not even #1 in the ACC standings and if they lose at Virginia, they definitely will come in 2nd. I find it hard to believe the committee will give a #1 seed to a team that finishes second in a league that has only 5 bids, and that has not exactly lit the world on fire in its last 10 games.
Meanwhile, if we go 3-1/4-0 to win the B1G outright, and then get at least to the finals in the B1G tourney, I can easily see us being seeded even, if not ahead, of Syracuse.
|33 weeks 6 days ago||I know - and it's lazy reasoning||
1) We've had Juco's in the past - not very many (e.g., Russell Shaw, Austin Panter) but we've done it.
2) Beyond that, if you look at that list of Juco recruits, you'll see schools with similar academic profiles as U of M -- Cal Berkeley, Indiana, Purdue, Florida (along with UCLA and Penn State offering a couple guys, just not getting them).
I find it unbelievable that those schools can figure out how to find guys whose credits transfer to their schools, but U of M is flummoxed on how to do it themselves. I can understand not being able to find many guys who qualify, but not being able find any means the coaches just aren't looking.
|33 weeks 6 days ago||Recruiting this year was mystifying||
Why we ended up being so short and knew it was quite possible we would lose Bryant is mystifying.
I have brought this up before, but will keep doing so b/c with Bryant out, it increases the already high-likelihood of mgoblog posts about how young are OL is and that it is a valid excuse for Hoke if we go 7-5/8-4 this year.
Here is the list of the top JC OL tackles: http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/CompositeRankings?InstitutionGroup=JuniorCollege&Position=OT
Notice the schools who brought these folks in: Alabama, FSU, A&M, Tenn, Maryland, Arkansas, Indiana and hey...Michigan State (two of them)!
When you have lack of experience/size/depth at a position, and scholarships to use, you should do something about it, especially when some of your main competition is. Nothing short of malpractice by Hoke & co.
|34 weeks 11 hours ago||Interesting point about Fisher||
I had forgotten they overlapped, so that's an interesting part of the resume.
Still, if I was an MSU fan, I wouldn't read too much in to the "Ellerbe/Amaker" part -- not b/c Ellerbe and Amaker were much to write home about, but b/c Izzo's teams during that time were capable of beating anyone in the nation (and often did), so he wasn't just racking up wins against the mediocrity that was UM from 1998-2009.
That said, I'd still be worried if I was an MSU fan -- he's losing more recruiting battles than he is winning (against Duke, IU, etc) and as you noted, the losses in close games show Izzo is not the best in-game coach.
|34 weeks 13 hours ago||His comedies hold up - what a talent||
Animal House and Caddyshack are still some of the funniest movies ever (particularly Animal House, which I could be talked into being #1 all-time). Sometimes when you look at "classics" you can see why they were important at the time, but they are not really relevant to today -- but the type of comedy he wrote still would crush at the box office today.
As an aside, I recently watched a two hour A&E "Biography" on the making of Caddyshack -- it was Ramis' first director job and he clearly didn't know what he was doing (as he admitted) but he had such an even-keel calm about the whole thing (they had many issues -- finding a course to shoot at, weather issues, changes to the script, etc), he kept the whole, disparate cast together and made a classic.
|34 weeks 14 hours ago||Yep, saw that||
I stopped the DVR and re-wound it to be sure. The ref literally thew him back towards the sidelines.
It will take until someone blows a knee, tripping over Izzo/Crean, before this gets fixed.
|34 weeks 14 hours ago||Izzo is becoming Lloyd Carr (W-L wise)||
Not in his histironics (though Lloyd could certainly go off on refs) but in how he's living off a past rep and is dangerously close to slipping to being clearly 2nd or 3rd in his own conference (forget the nation).
If MSU doesn't get it together when Dawson gets back and make a serious tourney run, that will be four straight years with Sweet 16 or worse -- that will put them clearly behind OSU and UM in terms of recent B1G and NCAA success. Plus, as Brian noted, it's not like they have the cavalry coming in to take them back to the top -- they lose Payne and (very likely) Harris, their two best players and replace them with....?
If I was Izzo, I'd be real depressed over losses like this as well. While none of this is guaranteed (heck, they can still win the B1G this year if a couple things break their way), I think he can see it slipping away.
|34 weeks 4 days ago||I not arguing "should" - this is my opinion on "will"||
I think Hoke will get fired at 8-4 or worse.
I can get, especially amongst Mgoblog denziens who can break down, via a scatterplot chart how UM's OL is developing, might make a better/more informed decision on whether there was "enough" improvement over 2013. I might not necessarily agree with it, as I think excuses should be at a minimum at a school like Michigan in someone's 4th year, but I can see it.
But for Joe Fan Alumni--they don't care about that stuff. They care about the fact they had to pay another $1000+ for tickets for a team (if it goes 8-4) that either a) lost to ND or b) went 4-4 in the B1G, which everyone knows is not a great conference. All the while, they're getting razzed at work and family gatherings about "Who's the little brother now?" and "Boy, what is that almost ten in a row over you guys?"
Plus, Hoke would suffer not only in comparison to the other football rivals, but to Beilein, who has UM as a regular B1G title contender (and beat MSU, twice, in his 4th year).
Hoke's seat is hot -- starting now. He doesn't have another "good job, good effort, nice improvement, you'll get 'em next year" season, in my opinion.
|34 weeks 4 days ago||You know what you want when you already have a lot of money?||
(or so I have read).
|34 weeks 4 days ago||I know. Sounds like he's the||
I know. Sounds like he's the coach of the extended family team that goes to play in a "Turkey Bowl" game after-Thanksgiving at the local middle school.
"And the Harris Family coach....Brady Hoke!"
|34 weeks 4 days ago||It's already hot||
I can't believe people think that if Hoke is "meh" (i.e., goes 8-4) this year that he will be back in 2015. With State coming off a Rose Bowl win, OSU winning 12 games a year, and ND recently playing in the ntnl championship, all our "red letter rivals" (unless they unexpectedly fall on their faces next year) will have clearly surpassed us. Alums will not stand for that.
9 wins in the minimum, in my opinion, in the regular season, unless somehow UM gets to 8 wins with 2 of those 3 wins being over State and OSU. Beating ND would be nice, but losing to State (again) and/or OSU (again) will not cut it.
|34 weeks 4 days ago||I don't like it either, but||
I don't like it either, but they have 10 million reasons to do so.
|36 weeks 5 days ago||My goodness, if there is one||
My goodness, if there is one time Michigan/Brandon's "corporate" operating skillz should be useful, it is situations like these.
If someone keeps asking questions you feel you've answered and/or don't want to get into, you simply stay calm, smile and say
...and then calmy and quickly leave the podium.
No death stares or hemming or hawing. PR 101. Perhaps U of M should enroll itself.
|37 weeks 8 hours ago||That seems reasonable at||
That seems reasonable at first, but define how a coach determines what is "strong evidence," esp in cases where the "evidence" is so in dispute (a police report isn't proof -- it's just a report of the events gathered by the police, and often contains contradictory information from the parties involved). The coach has zero investigative powers beyond asking the player "Did you do this?" and if he says, "No, I didn't coach." -- what then?
How would you, as a coach, apply this "strong evidence" standard in a consistent, readily explainable manner to all involved (players, recruits, AD, the fans, the media, etc)?
|37 weeks 9 hours ago||I don't understand what you expect of coaches||
Your comment, "I also think that quite possibly RR should have done the throwing..." is mystifying.
You think RR should have thrown out a player who was a) not convicted, or even charged, with a crime by the state and b) was not found (in 2009-2010, when RR was here) by the University to be in violation of the university code of conduct? On what basis would RR have kicked him out, then?
I get on coaches for being too lenient for when their charges are convicted of something (e.g., DUI) but I expect them to let the university and/or law enforcement investigate & make determinations of facts regarding serious conduct outside the team.
Coaches have no time or ability to correctly investigate and pass judgment on whether a player has done something wrong in these matters -- it should be left to others whose job it (literally) is.
|37 weeks 3 days ago||Good point||
While both are/were versatile and could play multiple positions, Walt had more old-man funkiness in his game. Perhaps I'm just focused on them both having long arms.
Maybe Caris can put on a bulky white elbow pad for fun, though? At least it will make him look heavier.
|37 weeks 3 days ago||I'll kick it, old-school - Walt Williams||
Walt "The Wizard" Williams from Maryland in the early 90s (then played in the NBA for a decade).
I'm assuming Caris is going to continue to grow (he's already 6' 6", and looks to have gained some weight), so assuming he tops out at 6' 7" and about 200 lbs, he'll play 2 or 3 in the NBA, with his big wingspan (Wiliams also had a big wingspan).
Short video of Walt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRbrewlFx3E
|37 weeks 4 days ago||Yes, I'm surprised how well||
Yes, I'm surprised how well he is doing. Granted, he is playing in the East against bad competition, but it's still NBA competition, and he's showing (as a rookie) he belongs. Impressive.
On a side note: WTF Anthony Bennett?! Here's his stat line:
I know he's the #1 pick overall, but he needs to go the d-league and work on his game and his confidence. Immediately.
|37 weeks 4 days ago||Absolutely. Talking about||
Absolutely. Talking about former Wolverine b-ball player's is never OT.
|37 weeks 4 days ago||I don't know about that. I am||
I don't know about that. I am definitely not a "die hard" and I've yet to say anything that Hoke could have done differently.
|37 weeks 4 days ago||If this is accurate (and from||
If this is accurate (and from multiple posts in the comments, and a plain reading of the rules, it seems to be), Brian really needs to update his "Typical" part of the post, as it has incorrect info.
|37 weeks 5 days ago||I don't find the union story||
I don't find the union story depressing at all. Pretty much the opposite. I don't know if it actually will work and be an appropriate tool, but it advances in a very rational and procedural way, the discussion about how to protect and compensate athletes.
To lump it in with rapes, sexual assualts and lies doesn't fit with me.
|37 weeks 5 days ago||While I don't agree with his||
While I don't agree with his "shot" as written (this is not the situation where zingers are appropriate), one of the many shoes to drop, based on this apparent new era of investigations, is what will happen in the Payne and Appling case from 2010.
It has all the hallmarks of these cases which are being re-opened/re-investigated, and sometime in the near future, I think it is very likely someone is going to ask MSU what they have done regarding that case re Title IX.
|39 weeks 13 hours ago||Not what I said||
Those links don't matter b/c I agreed -- "Trash talk on the field has probably been around since the Olympics (the original, BC version)." That's heat of the battle stuff, which I don't really care about.
My point is it is now common (though Sherman was extreme) to talk junk after the game. While there wasn't Twitter or MGoblog back in the day, players had scores of reporters following them -- print, radio and TV. If they wanted to denigrate their opponent, live and unfiltered on the air, they easily could have done so.
For Sherman, the game is over. You won. Show some class about your oppenent, or if you can't do that, just don't say anything at all. B/c beyond his Crabtree comments and his fake, passive aggressive "good game, buddy" butt slap, he made the choking sign -- all of which were pathetic on his part.
*Edit - just saw your comment. Again, it was not JUST his post-game remarks. He made the choke sign and taunted Crabtree. Besides, it's not exactly uncommon to give a post-game remark on the field. Most don't act like Sherman (though a few do).
|39 weeks 14 hours ago||You're mixing/conflating different things||
Generally, I agree when people look longingly at the "good 'ol days" but (directionally) I think Section 1 is correct and you're wrong.
I mean, using Ty Cobb is an example? He did not "talk trash" for show (which is what Sherman did). Cobb just straight up hated people and acted accordingly - denigrating blacks and punching out handicapped people. Cobb (to my knowledge) didn't go up to a reporter and exclaim how he was tired of being disrespected by Christy Mathewson and was glad to finally get a chance to shut him up.
While Mickey Mantle was a drunk, what does that have to do with Richard Sherman? Did Mantle go up to Mel Allen's radio show after beating Brooklyn and yell, "I am tired of all the haterz on the Dodgers! Don't ever try and sneak a fastball by me!" Nope.
And Ali is a perfect example -- he stood out in the mid-60s / mid-70s precisely BECAUSE he talked so much trash. It stood out. It was quite unusual. Same thing with Joe Namath -- he stood out.
Trash talk on the field has probably been around since the Olympics (the original, BC version). But acting like Sherman did off the field, in the media, on a regular basis? That's (with a few notable exceptions) a modern invention.
|40 weeks 1 day ago||I think we can all agree||
I think we can all agree about that!
|40 weeks 1 day ago||Diedorf was wrong, but I don't think you're right either||
In terms of "strategy", Dierdorf was clearly wrong. It is much better to give up 2 pts and then do the free kick and get to defend ~70 yards of field, then it is to give the opponent a great chance for 7 pts by falling on the ball inside your own 5 yard line.
However, Allen was absolutely NOT trying to throw an incomplete pass. He panicked and tried to complete a pass to #27 Wilson, who was about 5 yards to his left. Look at the play -- he clearly looks at #27 right before he tries to get rid of the ball (and gets crushed):
It was only dumb luck (for him) that the Colts knocked the ball out before it become a pass and then knocked it through the end zone.
What the punter SHOULD have done was instead of picking it up and trying to throw it, he should have kicked it through the end zone himself. That would have ensured the safety.
|40 weeks 3 days ago||Agreed - the NU game was just another bad sign||
in a bad season. You could see the program sinking to mediocrity (and worse) before your eyes.
I remember after the Akron and UConn games where the "FIRE BORGES" and "Oh my goodness, we're in real trouble!" started and plenty of posters made comments like, "What are you worried about? We won." and/or "We're still undefeated."
But by the time we got to Northwestern, it was almost beyond question that UM's pre-season goals were pipe dreams. That game, even though it was a win featuring one of the most wonderfully inexplicable plays in recent UM history (the super fast FG setup & kick), was just more confirmation that we had REAL problems as a football program. And 2015 didn't necessarily look any better (see the copious diaries about how young our OL will still be).
In contrast, UM basketball is now 3-0 in the B1G and no expects them (w/o McGary) to compete against the top 3 (MSU, OSU, Wisky) for the B1G title, but winning on the road ensures they make the tourney and the play of GRIII over the last few games confirms UM can get elite, atheltic b-ball talent (some of which are currently freshman, some of which will be here next year). Beyond that, since UM has tons of shooters, I would give them a realistic chance against literally any team in the country, which is about all you can ask for in March Madness - I can absolutely see them going on a run. I would never give UM football (2013 edition) a realistic shot (esp on a neutral field or away) against a whole bunch of teams.
|40 weeks 6 days ago||Well, your ego would be unreal...||
...if you had a freaking statue of yourself inside the UT Stadium!
Schools need these guys to support their $100 million plus athletic departments. And once you take someone's money (and build them a statue), they're going to have opinions -- lots of 'em.
|41 weeks 3 days ago||Same here||
Perhaps OP could put "in GR" or "in G Rapids" (or whatever) in title?
|41 weeks 3 days ago||Not good||
Beyond the loss (hopefully just to property, not life), I do not envy anyone fighting a fire in single digit weather. Not that it's ever walk in the park, but on days like today, it's got to be challenging in the extreme.
|41 weeks 4 days ago||Absolutely||
Some people act like getting to nine wins next year would be the equivalent of parting the Red Sea or some other miracle.
Losing 2 out of 3 (or all 3) to MSU, OSU, ND by definition makes it a non-successful season for UM. It doesn't mean we should fire everyone if we, say, go 10-2 with losses to MSU and OSU; that certainly would be something to build on. But that's not the measuring stick -- we need to start aiming higher than that.
|41 weeks 4 days ago||I did not understand the end of the Holy Cross game at all||
UM was up ~20 for most of the second half, yet it wasn't until 2-3 minutes left that he cleared the benches. With McGary arleady out, god forbid if Nick or GRIII or whomever got hurt at the 4min mark up 20 against a non-conf opponent.
That's beyond your good point - we need Biefeldt to get experience. Putting him in with 5-6 minutes left against Holy Cross would have been a good idea.
|41 weeks 4 days ago||Re "I think redshirting in basketball is pointless..."||
...because if he's good he won't be here in his fifth year."
Jordan Morgan disagrees with this statement.