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|2 weeks 5 days ago||Oh, he had the talent.||
Oh, he had the talent. Wheatley (10.46 100m) was roughly as fast as Denard (10.44) despite being 30 pounds heavier. One of the best athletes the school and the state have ever seen.
|18 weeks 1 day ago||Defensive TFLs?||
Mich is worse so far in defensive TFLs, both in average (4.3 now, 5.4 in 2013) and ranking (100th now, 90th in 2013).
Mich is just a total mystery right now. In some respects, the numbers contradict the eye test (e.g., ND's total yardage figure); in others, it's vice versa (Frank Clark). We'll know much more by 7 p.m. today.
|24 weeks 16 hours ago||Cole||
I get what you're saying, but the situations aren't the same. Kalis was college-sized the moment he hit campus. Cole weighed 275 in the spring yet was the first-team LT then. He's bigger now, but I think people are still justifiably concerned about what that says about the other tackles (besides Magnuson).
|24 weeks 2 days ago||That just doesn't compute||
Why would they worry about understanding other players' roles when they don't even know their own?
The most logical reason for the alignment today is they're searching for answers at guard.
|24 weeks 3 days ago||Yards per play||
If you go by yards/play, these are the rankings (Michigan listed first):
|25 weeks 2 days ago||Maybe he is||
But the point is that the two-deep doesn't need to be this young.
Put it this way: If Magnuson tears his ACL and Cole struggles at LT, no one is going to want to hear that we're stuck with a true freshman. They'll ask where are all these great recruits from the past couple of years.
|25 weeks 2 days ago||The point still stands||
Why is the backup LT a true FR? U-M signed 10 OL* total in 2012 and 2013. There isn't one guy in there who's a better backup LT option than a true FR?
We all know the last staff didn't recruit enough OL. But that isn't a blanket excuse for the management of the OL since.
(*-Saying that only Magnuson and LTT were true left tackle prospects isn't an excuse. That's the whole point. They should've taken more tackles.)
|25 weeks 6 days ago||The contract doesn't matter||
First of all, Hoke's deal is for six years. An extension isn't an issue until after 2015--and even then, not really. They could just tack on another year or two, which keeps him out of his last year while avoiding a long-term commitment.
The contract won't force Michigan to do or not do anything. It's just a matter of performance.
|25 weeks 6 days ago||Hoke won a conference title?||
|26 weeks 3 days ago||Bama averages 311 minus the 385-pounder||
(It's 308 if you count the walk-ons.)
It's fair to say U-M is a tad on the light side. Bama is 10 pounds bigger per man despite not counting their biggest guy. OSU is 305.5.
|28 weeks 1 day ago||Ask yourself this||
If any other school lost its two best players from an awful OL, would you be saying they might improve significantly?
Of course the OL is going to be a weakness again. The run game question for me instead is: How much will the coaches run Gardner?
It's quite the dilemma. Nussmeier has said that the QB is going to run less; he surely realizes that it's imperative that Gardner stays healthy. But Gardner may be the only way we can run. Sacks removed, he averaged 5.78 per carry last year, despite how bad the line was. Granted, a portion of that is scrambles off pass plays, but it's been true for a few years now that Mich can run the QB far better than it can the RBs.
It's conceivable that Mich could cobble together a decent running game this fall by keeping opponents off balance with Gardner running and with run/pass selection. It is not conceivable that Mich is suddenly going to be able to hand off on 1st and 10 and get 5 yards.
|28 weeks 5 days ago||Mich O/OSU D||
Equating the Mich O with the OSU D is a bit much. OSU was 47th, Mich 87th.
|29 weeks 1 day ago||Brown and Taylor||
Two very different players (besides the left/right thing), but both brought something to those fine late-80s teams.
Brown had a big arm. Low completion %, but if you look back, his yards/catch was crazy high.
Taylor didn't have much of an arm but was a high-percentage guy. Good runner too. Just had trouble staying healthy.
|30 weeks 3 days ago||The age myth||
Bullough, Dennard, Lewis and Taiwan Jones didn't redshirt. Bullough was MSU's leading tackler as a true SO. Allen, Drummond and Calhoun did redshirt, but they were all major contributors by their RS SO year.
MSU's defense isn't the product of some grand redshirting strategy. They were 6th nationally in total defense in 2011, led by some of those same guys as underclassmen. MSU has just figured out what works and what it wants.
Conversely, in 2012, Mich brought in Ross and RJS, two acclaimed LBs who are on the smaller side. Two years later, Ross is changing roles, RJS has hardly played and Mattison said at signing day that Mich has to get bigger at linebacker. Mich is still figuring out what type of player it wants.
|31 weeks 6 days ago||?||
OSU and MSU make the tournament every year. M football has lost 8 of its last 15 games. That's not a great comparison.
|33 weeks 1 day ago||Here's the thing||
Do you think Gardner won't get injured? And do you think the OL and DL won't either?
If so, then I could see a good season. But the optimistic projections aren't taking into account that Morris probably will have to start somewhere along the way, or that we'll have a bear of a time dealing with any OL injury (especially if it's Magnuson, who's coming off one), or how badly last year's defense was hurt once Pipkins went down.
Taking that into account, 7 or 8 wins seems about right. < 7 isn't out of the question.
|33 weeks 1 day ago||2 seniors||
Beyer and Clark.
|35 weeks 2 days ago||Strong tackles / weak interior||
A lot of people have been saying this--that guards are more important than tackles, essentially. But if that's so, why wouldn't they have tried moving Schofield back inside?
It seems like interior-is-more-important is a thing we've been saying to try to explain away last year's OL. What really happened is probably just as simple as this: Only two guys could play.
|38 weeks 2 days ago||Not that I'm waiting for NEXT spring||
But 2015 should prove once and for all whether they're willing to hold a real spring game. Clark and Beyer are the only graduating linemen on either side of the ball. Unless there's a mountain of injuries/transfers, they'll have more than enough depth to play.
|38 weeks 6 days ago||I get what Coyote is saying, but...||
Doesn't that mean Hoke shouldn't have gotten the job in the first place?
Totally agree that the Michigan coach should make a top salary, since it's a top job. Also agree that sometimes there are reasons to pay a guy more than the market would bear--like when the Yankees gave Jeter 51/3 a few years ago. (He had done a lot for the team and was still useful; cutting his salary drastically would've embarrassed him.)
But Hoke hadn't earned such consideration. If paying him a Michigan salary means paying him way beyond what he'd get anywhere else, that suggests you're hiring the wrong guy.
|39 weeks 4 days ago||What is earth-shattering?||
Lindsay isn't. Campbell wasn't. Harris wasn't. Hand wasn't. McDowell wasn't. The bowl game wasn't.
|46 weeks 19 hours ago||Milwaukee||
Good point, jmblue, but also remember who else will be in Milwaukee: the Badgers. Even though we won't be in their region, they almost certainly will get to play there.
If UW is there, it'll be an overwhelmingly Badger crowd, and thus an anti-Mich one. Whether that would bother our players is another story, but there's certainly no upside to it.
|46 weeks 2 days ago||Milwaukee isn't favorable||
Mich was booed mercilessly there in '96 (first-round loss to Texas). Mich folks don't consider Wisconsin a rival but Bucky does not see it the same way. Plus it isn't all that close; Mich fans won't drive in droves. We'd be better off in Buffalo.
|50 weeks 6 days ago||It's fair to say||
...that recruiting has slowed a bit. Yes, it's a smaller class, but there have been zero commits since the 2013 football season started, even though they could have fit a couple more players in. The last two years, there were 5-6 commits between September and signing day.
|51 weeks 4 days ago||the football bust||
It also should be noted that Gibbons attended the football bust on Dec. 9. He spoke there too, according to The Wolverine. That would suggest the football program still considered him in good standing with the team at that point.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||Glasgow||
He'll be an RS junior, but your point holds.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||Richardson||
Should be an RS sophomore. He didn't get in any games in 2013, according to the player participation logs.
|1 year 4 weeks ago||The DL||
What worries me about 2014 is the tackle spots may still be much like Brian described. (Albeit with Henry a year older.)
Unless Pipkins is healthy, the other tackle spot will again be a converted DE (Wormley), undersized redshirt freshmen (Poggi, Hurst) or good-sized players who are marginal (Ash, R. Glasgow). There's also Mone, but I'm not sure how much you can expect out of a true freshman at NT.
It sounds a lot like the same questions we had going into 2012 and 2013.
|1 year 6 weeks ago||The fifth spot||
Braden is indeed the X-factor, but at this point, our expectations for OL who haven't played much should be super ultra modest.
Although most of the shuffling has been on the interior, remember that when Lewan got hurt at Penn State, it was Magnuson who came in at tackle. Magnuson was ahead of Braden despite being relatively undersized.
|2 years 18 weeks ago||Speed-wise, Wheatley = Robinson||
Michigan's track record book says Wheatley ran the 100 in 10.46. Robinson did a 10.44 in high school. Robinson ran a 6.81 60m at least once, according to U-M's site; Wheatley's best time was 6.80, although that was converted from 55m.
So they're basically equal, which shows what a ridiculous athlete Wheatley was. The guy was 25 pounds bigger.