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|2 hours 30 min ago||I bought my iPhone full price||
I bought my iPhone full price but now the new phone is out and my phone is only worth half as much I paid. I mean, can't apple throw in a new case or dock to show their appreciation?
|9 hours 11 min ago||So you're cheering against||
So you're cheering against your own team, got it.
|18 hours 36 min ago||I swear some of you are more||
I swear some of you are more giddy about the prospect of Michigan doing poorly this weekend so you can keep beating the Fire Hoke drum and say "I told you so" than the prospect of Michigan actually having a good game.
|18 hours 41 min ago||There was a ton of booing||
There was a ton of booing when Devin threw the pick in my secton, than again, directed at Devin by name, when we had the delay. Then boos when Hagerup kicked in in the endzone. Everyone claims they were booing the coaches afterwards because no one wants to be that guy, but trust me, live there was very little distinction made. People just get upset and need to let someone know about it in general.
|1 day 8 hours ago||I just mean, at a high level,||
I just mean, at a high level, they were guys that improved schools at a lower level as a head coach (Ball St and SDSU for Hoke, GVSU, Central, Cincinnati for Kelly). I know their records, duration of tenure, etc were different, but the general trend is that they were both up and coming head coaches at a lower level.
|1 day 18 hours ago||Bwahahaha, good one.||
Bwahahaha, good one.
|1 day 20 hours ago||Hoke's not going to stop||
Hoke's not going to stop being who he is just because some people thinks he should. His fatherly relationship with the players is a huge part of his recruiting success, so grand scheme of things, he really shouldn't change. How many of our commits have mentioned a family atmosphere?
Of the reasons we're not losing, players not being "afraid" of Hoke is going to be way down in the noise.
|1 day 20 hours ago||Yup, it's not just a nickel||
Yup, it's not just a nickel package issue. RJS was on for several plays and seems to have maybe passed him.
|1 day 20 hours ago||If Hoke lost his shit on the||
If Hoke lost his shit on the sidelines on someone, everyone would be bitching about that too. Look losing is a legitimate reason to criticize Hoke. All the peripheral stuff that questions his character, his love for the players, etc is disingenious to say the least.
|1 day 23 hours ago||Yup, couldn't help but notice||
Yup, couldn't help but notice Brian conveniently left off the second, arguably more important part of that statement.
|2 days 1 hour ago||You're right, his Wikipedia||
You're right, his Wikipedia page didn't include it, but I just looked up his bio on the Vandy website and he definitely was. I'll edit it when I get to a real computer.
|3 days 1 hour ago||Not to be Debbie Downer, but||
Not to be Debbie Downer, but this is in the corner above the student section, probably the worst seats in the house. That section was about 50% filled last week, FWIW.
|3 days 4 hours ago||Well the defense has been||
Well the defense has been decent to pretty good since Hoke/Mattison got here, despite some key injuries and also depth issues. 31 points to ND wasn't very good, but statistically it really wasn't that awful either.
The other side... well, we're 3 games in under the new guy, so that probably has a little to do with it.
|3 days 5 hours ago||This is a legitimate gripe||
This is a legitimate gripe about Hoke. I'm guessing he had some guys with institutional knowledge of the shield punting when he took over so it was probably easier to just keep rolling with it instead of changing to the pro style like we did... so the practice time argument isn't really valid.
The thing we did last year when we'd line up in shield and then motion to the pro formation was seriously WTF and felt like we were being trolled.
|3 days 6 hours ago||Looks like all the coaches||
Looks like all the coaches are going to get a pass for the delay of game before the half. I would have really liked to get their perspective on it and what they thought was up with the play clock and if someone on the sidelines is supposed to be watching and didn't, etc.
|3 days 6 hours ago||Sorry, what's not to get||
Sorry, what's not to get about the CB's being the weak spot? If you took the '85 Bears and took out one cornerback out of the game and just left a receiver uncovered, even a competent college QB would still move the chains on them. Defense is a weakest link kind of situation. Countess and Hollowell having a terrible game and letting his guy break open 3 seconds after the snap negated everything everyone else was doing. Even then, we adjusted at halftime and came out and held them to 10 points despite giving them very good field position. They basically had one quarter where they did all their damage after Taylor went out and we didn't react fast enough as the back-up plan got exposed.
Offensively, we probably score 9 points just based on field position we actually had, and then likely at least one of those turned over drives would give you points. Now you're quickly getting back to the "we get upset for a few days and say well that looks like a very competitive team" situation, and one that more accurately reflects the box score.
I know, if and buts and all that, but at the same time, upon further review (NTUFR) ND doesn't look quite like the Waterloo that everyone is making it out to be.
|3 days 7 hours ago||I don't know the details of||
I don't know the details of Ball St either, but the numbers don't sound that unheard of to me. Going by the numbers given (30 total, 40% non-graduation), that's 18 people graduating (normal), and 12 people other departures. Even a normal stable program loses maybe 3-5 to normal attrition. A new coach is often accompanied by transfers, which would make up the other 7-9 guys.
|3 days 17 hours ago||I got booted from a house||
I got booted from a house league hockey game for swearing once. Apparently the ref's kid was in the stands and didn't like me apparently being a bad influence on him. Got a warning while swearing at someone from the bench, then got tripped and dropped an F bomb and got tossed. My then girlfriend, now wife happened to be there that night too, she was pretty embarrassed to be seen leaving with me.
|3 days 17 hours ago||We not going to talk about||
We not going to talk about deaths.
|3 days 18 hours ago||You're looking at this from||
You're looking at this from the wrong direction. Not talking about injuries isn't making people mad at Hoke. People are already mad at Hoke and the injury policy is just something convenient for people to bitch about. If it wasn't the injuries thing, it'd be something else.
|3 days 19 hours ago||That's part of the problem||
That's part of the problem though, those guys are hard to find. Guys with proven records at a high level usually don't leave of their own volition like lower level HC or OC/DCs making the HC transition. Saban and Butch Davis were both coming back from the pros. Houston Nutt was forced out at Arkansas and it turns out his failures at Arkansas followed him to Ole Miss. Snyder came out of retirement out of loyalty to his team. Cutcliffe was fired and moved down a rung in prestige from Ole Miss to Duke.
Harbaugh might fit that description and Michigan might luck into it with the timing, but I'm not holding my breath. It seems like the guy really wanted to coach in the NFL and had no real interest in coaching college for any longer than it took for him to make the jump to the next level.
|3 days 19 hours ago||then the DC coming out after||
then the DC coming out after the game and saying "that's on me, I should have adjusted" is killing me. You are paid a million bucks - you have 40 years in the business - you decide to think about that sort of thing AFTER the game?
1) It took him maybe 1/2-1 quarter too long to make the adjustment. We came out in the second half and held them to 10 points despite spotting them the ball with a short field over and over and over again.
2) People give coaches shit for not owning up to their mistakes a lot here (mostly Hoke and Borges). Here's Mattison being very open about his mistakes and apparently that upsets you too.
|3 days 20 hours ago||Exactly, at least the last||
Exactly, at least the last week now, the injury back and forth with the press has been playful sparring at worst.
They're trying creative ways to ask the question to get him to slip and Hoke is responding with a comical "nice try" tone.
|3 days 20 hours ago||He's come out great in UFR||
He's come out great in UFR the last two weeks and the preliminary returns for this week say he had another solid effort. I'd say it's that he's just good.
Miller is also grading out pretty well too.
|3 days 20 hours ago||You're not, it just a few||
You're not, it just a few people that can't wrap their minds around the fact that Hoke has decided to not disclose injuries just like lots of other coaches and have to post a comment about it every time.
|3 days 20 hours ago||Are we going to talk about||
Are we going to talk about this every fucking presser?
If you watch the video, he says it with smirk at the end, no animosity or "fuck you" whatsoever.
|3 days 20 hours ago||That's true, but 36 is a||
That's true, but 36 is a pretty good sample size to get a feel for tendencies and odds on how these things tend to go. If I opened up the criteria for Graham and Sumlin, I suspect a lot of failures would also be added to the list in addition to the success stories. Like I said, you can name these guys because they're successful, not the other way around.
|3 days 20 hours ago||Correct on T Graham, well||
Correct on T Graham, well he's actually included in Pitt, but that's just one year with him.
You're right about Cutcliffe, that's probably unfair for me to dismiss him just because he coached at Duke. I'll edit to include him in the list of winners.
I don't know enough about the details of the roster Hoke left at Ball St to really make a case against what you said, but I will say that unless you have some information about it it's probably unfair to blame him for the transition strictly based on the following year record. Plenty of teams falter for any number of reasons after a coach leaves or retires.
|3 days 23 hours ago||That would be interesting to||
That would be interesting to look at. FWIW, the eye test does say that the power schools with historical prestige tend to come out of coaching changes a bit better than the lower tiered schools.
|3 days 23 hours ago||That's what it seemed like, a||
That's what it seemed like, a second flag went up after they were separated.