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- ND punt is muffed and recovered by ND. For all the spread punt grumbling, Chesson was right there and went for the tackle instead.
- Gardner fumble literally bounced right into an ND player's hands.
- Darboh fumble recovered by Miami, and not only that isn't even really a fumble but not enough video evidence to overturn call on field.
- Gardner's Miami INT tipped at the line AND goes right between Chesson's hands AND there's a Miami player 10 yards downfield directly in line with it.
- Miami onside kick goes right through Shallman's hands as he's running into the guy that should have been fielding it. Miami recovers.
- Miami RB makes an ill advised stretch for the 1st down and fumbles, Miami recovers.
|6 hours 56 min ago||I got booted from a house||
I got booted from a house league hockey game for swearing once. Apparently the ref's kid was in the stands and didn't like me apparently being a bad influence on him. Got a warning while swearing at someone from the bench, then got tripped and dropped an F bomb and got tossed. My then girlfriend, now wife happened to be there that night too, she was pretty embarrassed to be seen leaving with me.
|7 hours 12 min ago||We not going to talk about||
We not going to talk about deaths.
|8 hours 31 min ago||You're looking at this from||
You're looking at this from the wrong direction. Not talking about injuries isn't making people mad at Hoke. People are already mad at Hoke and the injury policy is just something convenient for people to bitch about. If it wasn't the injuries thing, it'd be something else.
|8 hours 39 min ago||That's part of the problem||
That's part of the problem though, those guys are hard to find. Guys with proven records at a high level usually don't leave of their own volition like lower level HC or OC/DCs making the HC transition. Saban and Butch Davis were both coming back from the pros. Houston Nutt was forced out at Arkansas and it turns out his failures at Arkansas followed him to Ole Miss. Snyder came out of retirement out of loyalty to his team. Cutcliffe was fired and moved down a rung in prestige from Ole Miss to Duke.
Harbaugh might fit that description and Michigan might luck into it with the timing, but I'm not holding my breath. It seems like the guy really wanted to coach in the NFL and had no real interest in coaching college for any longer than it took for him to make the jump to the next level.
|9 hours 13 min ago||then the DC coming out after||
then the DC coming out after the game and saying "that's on me, I should have adjusted" is killing me. You are paid a million bucks - you have 40 years in the business - you decide to think about that sort of thing AFTER the game?
1) It took him maybe 1/2-1 quarter too long to make the adjustment. We came out in the second half and held them to 10 points despite spotting them the ball with a short field over and over and over again.
2) People give coaches shit for not owning up to their mistakes a lot here (mostly Hoke and Borges). Here's Mattison being very open about his mistakes and apparently that upsets you too.
|9 hours 46 min ago||Exactly, at least the last||
Exactly, at least the last week now, the injury back and forth with the press has been playful sparring at worst.
They're trying creative ways to ask the question to get him to slip and Hoke is responding with a comical "nice try" tone.
|9 hours 48 min ago||He's come out great in UFR||
He's come out great in UFR the last two weeks and the preliminary returns for this week say he had another solid effort. I'd say it's that he's just good.
Miller is also grading out pretty well too.
|9 hours 50 min ago||You're not, it just a few||
You're not, it just a few people that can't wrap their minds around the fact that Hoke has decided to not disclose injuries just like lots of other coaches and have to post a comment about it every time.
|9 hours 51 min ago||Are we going to talk about||
Are we going to talk about this every fucking presser?
If you watch the video, he says it with smirk at the end, no animosity or "fuck you" whatsoever.
|10 hours 22 min ago||That's true, but 36 is a||
That's true, but 36 is a pretty good sample size to get a feel for tendencies and odds on how these things tend to go. If I opened up the criteria for Graham and Sumlin, I suspect a lot of failures would also be added to the list in addition to the success stories. Like I said, you can name these guys because they're successful, not the other way around.
|10 hours 24 min ago||Correct on T Graham, well||
Correct on T Graham, well he's actually included in Pitt, but that's just one year with him.
You're right about Cutcliffe, that's probably unfair for me to dismiss him just because he coached at Duke. I'll edit to include him in the list of winners.
I don't know enough about the details of the roster Hoke left at Ball St to really make a case against what you said, but I will say that unless you have some information about it it's probably unfair to blame him for the transition strictly based on the following year record. Plenty of teams falter for any number of reasons after a coach leaves or retires.
|12 hours 47 min ago||That would be interesting to||
That would be interesting to look at. FWIW, the eye test does say that the power schools with historical prestige tend to come out of coaching changes a bit better than the lower tiered schools.
|13 hours 21 min ago||That's what it seemed like, a||
That's what it seemed like, a second flag went up after they were separated.
|13 hours 44 min ago||You know I was just thinking||
You know I was just thinking yesterday how all the 50/50 bounces have gone against us this year. That's not nearly enough to account for the ND debacle, but I sure get the feeling that we're snake bitten.
Six, essentially 50/50 plays, that all go against us. Hopefully we can get some regression to the mean this Saturday against a tough team. Brady Hoke's due for some golden poop.
|13 hours 55 min ago||Thanks! I enjoyed putting||
Thanks! I enjoyed putting together the data.
|13 hours 57 min ago||Thanks, I'll edit it.||
Thanks, I'll edit it.
|14 hours 1 min ago||Like I said, whether Peppers||
Like I said, whether Peppers and Taylor play potentially changes the scheme Michigan uses and that absolutely is something opposition coaches will tailor their preperation towards.
Also, I think people are reading too much into the transcripts. On video, a lot of the we don't talk about injuries is said with a smirk.
|15 hours 50 min ago||Because people like you would||
Because people like you would be bitching even more if they didn't score?
|15 hours 55 min ago||We had 4 guys in the||
We had 4 guys in the secondary and our top receiver with unknown status last week. The status of the secondary guys makes a big difference in what kind of defense the opponent will face, including how much man and how much zone we play. That's a pretty huge piece of info to just hand your opponent to satisfy idle fan curiousity. I don't know why people think it's such a big deal and why they're entitled to the info because ultimately it doesn't change your life one bit and plenty of other coaches are tight lipped about injuries.
|16 hours 6 min ago||Not that I disagree with you||
Not that I disagree with you in general that the timing and context of the answer looked like deflecting blame, but the question was not specific to people being upset with the coaching staff. It was ambiguous and asked about people who "watch from the outside and see some of the similar issues that they saw last season."
We all internalize that to mean people who are upset with coaching because that's all we talk about here, but I could easily see him thinking (incorrectly) it's about people being upset with the players and how they're playing.
|16 hours 12 min ago||I agree we should have gone||
I agree we should have gone for it, but it's pretty unfair to say that Hoke isn't a coach that takes the initiative in those situations, because he's been consistently aggressive in those types of situations in the past. Every "controversial" decision he's made regarding going for it seems to be vindicated during the next week by Brian or the Mathlete according to the stats.
|17 hours 12 min ago||The QB should glance at the||
The QB should glance at the clock on every down and someone, usually a grad assistant should be assigned to watch it on the sidelines. Given Michigan's perpetual struggle to get plays off in time, it's even more shocking that the coaches were caught off guard by it. I agree that the refs didn't follow normal procedure in restarting the clock, but it's still a bad job all around when some 100+ people on the michigan sideline all fail to notice the clock running out.
|17 hours 17 min ago||The best I could tell was||
The best I could tell was this:
Nussmeier was in the middle of a fiery speech to the offense during the TO.
The official came over and blew the whistle to signal the end of the TO and the clock started running immediately.
Nussmeier continued to talk for about 5-10 seconds before sending in the team to the field and then after that, gave the play to Gardner.
We got out of the huddle actually ok, but had a big motion shift that took too long.
Gardner then gave a hard-count to try and draw the defense offsides and the clock ran out.
So, while the clock probably got started earlier than the coaches were expecting and probably faster than typically happens, it was pretty much on the coaches, particularly Nuss for taking too long. Then, no one, not Gardner, not Hoke, not an GA who's assigned to watch the play clock, noticed the time winding down. We actually had time to get the play off, but were trying to draw Miami offsides.
It was a hollistic failure of game management from everyone on Michigan, with maybe a small amount of blame owed to the refs.
|17 hours 22 min ago||The cheerleader in my section||
The cheerleader in my section (44) definitely had the wrong sign up until about mid-way through the chant.
|17 hours 23 min ago||Yeah, he wasn't wrong per se,||
Yeah, he wasn't wrong per se, and he even might have genuinely meant it instead of trying to deflect the question, but the timing and context made it look terrible. I think he (or maybe DB) recognizes that, as he's been on a bit of a rebranding tour re: the fans ever since.
|17 hours 31 min ago||Regarding FBs on short yardage.||
On the goal line Green score, Michigan had a fullback... it was Maurice Hurst. Now that's manball baby!
|18 hours 40 min ago||Good cause, you got yourself||
Good cause, you got yourself a bet.
|19 hours 13 min ago||Straight forward bet.||
Michigan covers the spread this weekend against Utah (we'll use the current line of -6.5).
$20 to the ASPCA if I'm right, $20 to the charity of your choice if I'm wrong.
|20 hours 24 min ago||The other 2012 loss was||
The other 2012 loss was actually Nebraska, when Denard got injured and we put Bellomy in. Iowa under center was one of the two losses the year before.
I totally agree with the sentiment around here. One bad year last year has people really revising what was actually a great 2011 and a decent 2012 into "3 years of failure."
|1 day 7 hours ago||Speaking of META, is there||
Speaking of META, is there any way to add a flag in your user CP that shows who responded to your posts? I think it would help with conversations when people get a notification that they have a reply to something they posted.