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| Date | Title | Body |
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| 1 week 3 days ago | Two moves |
Quinton Washington flipped to DT when BWC moved to OL. He was a 4-star recruit in the same class, played very well last year, and is a favorite for all-conference honors this year. But he wasn't awesome as a RS freshman, so that probably means his coach was fucking up big time. Lewan (All-Everything), Roh (HM All-Conference), Schofield (likely All-Conference this year, multi-year starter), Washington (ditto), BWC (drafted despite probably playing out of position at a time when the players at his natural position struggled) is a ridiculously good haul on both lines for one full recruiting class with any kind of job security. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | Recruiting myths |
MSU really hasn't been getting a bunch of high ranked guys in the state at any time recently. The 2010 class landed them Gholston (overhyped, seems like a shitty human being), Bullough (probably born with green skin), and Joe Boisture (not as good as Devin Gardner who we landed in the same class). The 2011 class landed them just Thomas (counting Rivals 4-star guys from Michigan), and he has redshirted, played fullback, and now is apparently moving back to D. The only time they got a big haul of "blue-chip" guys was in 2009 (7 local 4-stars) and the returns are pretty much all in. Our class was infinitely better because we took out of state guys who didn't suck at football. Denard, Lewan, Schofield, Fitz, Gallon, Roh and Washington totally trump the in-state guys State landed. The only wins for State (calling Fitz vs. Baker a draw as each posted 1,000 yard sophomore seasons them slumped, though Fitz can grab victory with a solid comeback this year) out of that group are Norman (a Renaissance kid who we offered) and Sims (very talented, but at a position the offense wasn't featuring, we offered but it looks like he never visited anywhere but MSU). That class drove perception in the media, especially because it coincided with their success and our struggles on the field, but we were much better off with the guys we got and they would have probably been better served by sticking to the unheralded 3-star guys (like Thomas Gordon and Jake Ryan) in Michigan and Ohio who had helped turn them into a B1G contender. |
| 1 week 5 days ago | Another angle |
http://mitchalbom.com/d/journalism/3489/webber-no-longer-kid-image-often... The guy whined throughout his college career (what an awful burden having the fans give a shit about whether or not you return to Michigan) and claimed poverty to justify leaving school early after he had pocketed a ridiculous sum of money and wasn't paying for tuition or basic living expenses. "But then, I went to lunch the other day with Shonte Peoples from the football team, and we didn't have enough money for the food. We had to, like, take two pops off, and return this fish sandwich, get a three-piece chicken instead of a five- piece. And you can't help but think, 'If we had some money, like the pros, we wouldn't have to go through this.' Chris Webber is a disingenuous shitbag. No one owes him anything. |
| 4 weeks 6 days ago | Results |
They've been to the Sweet 16 the last two seasons. It took us nearly 20 years to get back to that point in the tournament. If that is a "disappointment", your standards are totally out of touch with reality. The only other programs to match or better MSU in the tourney each of the past two years are OSU, Florida, Louisville, Syracuse, Marquette, Indiana, and Kansas. A criticism that amounts to "The media thought they were a top-5 team but really they were only a top 10-15 team, LOL!" isn't much of a criticism at all. |
| 4 weeks 6 days ago | Indeed |
Since '99, MSU has been to 6 Final Fours. Duke, KU, UCONN, and UNC have been to 4 each. Programs like UCLA, Louisville, Kentucky, Florida, etc. have been less often. If Izzo is a perpetual disappointment in the tournament, what does that make every other program in the country? |
| 5 weeks 2 days ago | Johnson |
He also went on to be a 5-time all-star in the NBA. Not sure there is anybody that good in this year's college/draft class. Not to mention that IU team that beat them in the title game was a monster. 32-0, 4 first round draft picks (all in the top 11), 5 guys who had an NBA career. The eras were definitely different. |
| 5 weeks 2 days ago | 4 year player |
I think in this case he's referring to Green, who spent 4 years in college (2 at JUCO, 2 at UM). In that case if the guy isn't walking away with the sheepskin it doesn't look all that great. I think for a guy like Burke or someone else leaving early the question for jmblue would be "Are you on track to graduate?" or like you said, "Did you come back and finish your degree in the offseason or at the end of your playing career?" |
| 5 weeks 3 days ago | Frank Clark |
I don't get the "he hasn't done anything" comments about Clark. Last year he posted 9 TFL, second on the team behind Ryan and better than #3 by a significant margin. For a guy who split time and was still a true sophomore (and didn't play all that much as a freshman), those numbers are about as good as it gets. He also knocked down three passes (tied for 2nd on the team with Ryan). The dude has been making plays. If he is bigger/stronger and just a little smarter about diagnosing plays, I think we can/should expect big things. |
| 6 weeks 1 day ago | Not so fast |
This is only the second time in the last 15 or so years that we've gone farther in the tournament (2011 we won a game and they went out in the first round). Izzo's been to 6 Final Fours in that span and won a national title. They've been doing it for a lot longer, and with back to back Sweet 16 appearances it isn't like they've fallen off the map. This run puts us in a club that MSU has been in for a while. Hopefully we can stay there for a decade or so, and then we can start making these kinds of comparisons. |
| 7 weeks 3 days ago | Bill Self |
Was thinking about it after some of the "Bill Self is a vacant moron" talk last night coming on the heels of talking to a bunch of seemingly disgruntled KU fans in Vegas a week ago. Self has won at least a share of NINE!!!! straight conference titles. He's won the conference tournament six times in that span. He's made it at least to the Sweet 16 in six of the last seven seasons, which includes a national title and an appearance in the championship game. The national POY hit a 30 foot three to force OT and knock his team out of the tourney. And folks are dissatisfied with the results and/or think the dude is underachieving. It is almost as bad as hearing how many more national titles Wooden would have won if he just called a timeout every once in a while (seriously, I've had this discussion on more than one occasion). You just can't win with some people. |
| 7 weeks 3 days ago | Tough gig |
It is also hard to judge a coach at a place where the standards are pretty nutty. Steve Lavin made the Sweet 16 in five of seven seasons (with one Elite Eight in there) but is viewed as a bum. Howland made three Final Fours (with one title game appearance in there) and won the conference four times in ten seasons, but just got fired. Harrick won a national title, made two other deep tourney runs, and won three conference titles in eight seasons, but plenty of folks were happy to run him out of town over a minor NCAA snafu after the early exit against Princeton. If recent history is relevant, Alford could win a ton of games and still be considered a failure if he doesn't measure up to the Wooden myth. |
| 7 weeks 3 days ago | Not quite true |
Alford did make the Sweet 16 back in '99 when he was at Southwest Missouri State. Hasn't been back since though. As for other options, I think UCLA thought they would be able to steal a coach from a place like Butler or VCU without much trouble, only to be thwarted in their efforts. At that point there aren't a lot of options demonstrably better than Alford, who is also young, seems like an okay recruiter, and is used to being in the spotlight more than some of the folks who may not be ready for the non-basketball portion of the job. |
| 7 weeks 3 days ago | Definitely see your point |
Clearly they had made up their mind on Howland (otherwise firing a guy for winning his conference is kind of nuts), but that doesn't change the perception situation (i.e. you're replacing Howland with Alford). As such, I think Alford could have a really short honeymoon, especially if the folks across town get things going in the right direction. Unless Alford comes in and blows the doors off success-wise, it looks like a potentially ugly situation. |
| 7 weeks 3 days ago | Please explain |
How is Alford an upgrade over the guy they just fired? Hopefully SC hires Howland. Or "Lobo killer" Tommy Amaker. |
| 7 weeks 3 days ago | So? |
As long as he keeps his dangly bits out of the gravy, what's the harm? Don't be so uptight. |
| 7 weeks 3 days ago | Refuse to wear pants |
Nothing forces compromise like a naked dude at the dinner table. |
| 7 weeks 3 days ago | Obviously |
Beilein has done a fantastic job here. That is what he and other coaches can/should be credited with. Identifying talent, bringing in players, and building a program. And as far as the marginal impact a coach can have once the talent is in place, I think most folks who follow the game closely (other coaches, etc.) are in agreement that Beilein is nearly as good as it gets. At the same time, he was just as good at that part of things when his team had a losing record in two of his first three years here and numerous people wanted him gone because he was a small-time "system" coach who couldn't get it done here at a "big-time" program. Patting the coach on the back when a great player hits a 30 footer to go to the Elite Eight (since, you know, he told him to do that) is just as silly as getting pissed off when the offense is occasionally stagnant with a walk-on PG (in the same spirit, most of the "he can't coach offense" criticisms of Amaker should have been replaced with "Why didn't he recruit a pure point guard to take the pressure off Daniel Horton who is playing out of position?"). There are a lot of reasons we're still alive and IU isn't. Strategery is pretty far down the list. |
| 7 weeks 3 days ago | Um... |
Trey Burke >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yogi Ferrell Beilein is a very good basketball coach, but guys look a lot fucking smarter when they have the best player in the country running the show for them. |
| 7 weeks 4 days ago | And... |
He has a broken hand now. |
| 7 weeks 4 days ago | LA is getting people paid |
Having the SC and UCLA jobs both open is making a lot of coaches a lot of bucks. Dixon and Alford got big extensions after being bounced in the first round. Smart and Pastner got extensions after going out in the Round of 32. Stevens looks to be cashing in as well. Even guys like Gottfried and Lorenzo Romar (former UCLA assistants) are starting to get their names into the mix. If Pat Haden and Dan Guerrero have your phone number, you are probably going to have a nice day as a head coach. |
| 7 weeks 4 days ago | Victim of the offense |
There were also a number of games where Fitz had to take one for the team and the results were very positive for Denard. Our read/option game pretty much boiled down to just the inverted veer last year (probably a reflection of what the interior line could do), and a lot of teams (thinking of Purdue specifically) were forced to pick their poison on that play. They chose to defend Fitz and every time he got the ball headed toward the sideline he was swarmed by multiple defenders. Conversely, Denard was able to rack up over 10ypc and get a free run at a DB in space whenever he kept the ball up the middle. I'm sure Borges will take that tradeoff every time, it just made it look like Fitz personally wasn't playing as well as he has in the past. Throw in the fact that he missed over 3.5 games (and was racking up yards against Iowa when he went down) and I think we'll see a very good year out of Fitz if he's back healthy in 2013. |
| 7 weeks 4 days ago | Agreed |
The Keady comb-over was magnificent. So weird seeing him embracing his baldness during the M-Purdue game in W. Lafayette when he was sitting in the stands next to the Big Dog. Somebody needs to hit his pate with a can of spray paint. Or Soul Glo. |
| 7 weeks 5 days ago | Real men eat subs! |
Fuck Kansas! |
| 7 weeks 5 days ago | I think you mean... |
#HALOL /BacariAlexanderIsBiggerThanMichiganFootball Bill Self molests collies! |
| 8 weeks 23 hours ago | Umm.... |
They're called lytle peepul. You fuckers are racist. |
| 8 weeks 1 day ago | About those expectations |
Since Howland's been at UCLA, IU hasn't been to the Final Four, UK has gone twice, so has Duke, so has KU, and UNC has gone three times, same as UCLA. The guy went 13-5 in conference this year, won his league outright (one that looks better than perceived with the runs Oregon and Arizona have made in the tourney), beat UA twice in the last month, and lost their tourney game while playing an awful matchup for them without their 2nd leading scorer. One of those years he missed the tourney, they were 11-7 in the Pac 12 in another weird year where folks were down on the league. The guy got fired because people don't like his surly attitude and because some UCLA fans think it is still the 1970's. |
| 11 weeks 3 days ago | Look at the options |
A 19 year old co-ed is basicallly deciding between fucking a guy on a dorm-room bunk bed while his creepy roommate rubs one out under the sheets, hooking up on a beer-soaked couch in a frat house, or chasing down that old high school flame who still lives with his parents. Or she can go over to a famous multi-millionaire's house and bone down on a snakeskin waterbed (probably how Miles rocks it) and maybe pick up a spare national championship ring. Hooking up with an middle-aged, not that bad looking or out of shape rich dude seems way more sane than the typical alternative. Though I'm not a sexy lady, so what the fuck do I know. |
| 12 weeks 1 day ago | Colorado |
The Buffs got in after winning the conference tourney. Washington won the regular season title but did not receive an at-large bid. Cal was the other team along with CU who got in. |
| 12 weeks 3 days ago | Good call |
Dave Brandon is woefully ignorant about our depth chart in 2027. |
| 13 weeks 6 days ago | Would have been nice |
Like people have pointed out, GRIII is being forced into a very difficult chore on the defensive end. Not only is he playing the 4, often against much bigger guys, he is pretty much the only guy doing it (up until recently he was on the floor nearly as much as Burke and THJ). Having Evan Smotrycz still on this team would have been very valuable. He had the offensive ability that Bielfeldt and others can't provide, including an outside shot to stretch defenses. At worst he would have allowed GRIII to play more reasonable minutes and at best he adds a bigger presence on D/glass with an offensive threat. Its a shame that Robinson is facing the same difficulties that Smotrycz faced a year ago (when he was often forced to line up at the 5). The two of them together, combined with our newfound depth at the 5 would have been a nice luxury to have. |

