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|1 day 3 hours ago||How women think||
Ladies like guys who other ladies like. They are also super competitive. Ask anybody who wears a wedding ring at a bar or sleeps with one girl in a group fo friends (and does it well). Now that this is out there, he'll go to parties, stand quietly in the corner, and ten girls will come up and whisper that they can XYZ better than that porn girl and that their LMNOP is better/tighter/tastier than hers.
Gals want to tame wild horses, not teach frogs how to make them ribbit.
|1 day 4 hours ago||Doctors orders||
Well, I guess now I have to take your medical advice. Cheers.
|1 day 5 hours ago||Shaming any lady who has sex is shitty||
OMG, a grown woman finds 6'4" muscular athletes with world class stamina sexually attractive. What a ho! She should stay home and knit sweaters instead of fucking living the dream.
|1 day 5 hours ago||What are you talking about?||
This isn't fucking caveman times where people need to make babies to keep the species alive. Lisa Ann is three years younger than Jennifer Aniston and eight years younger than Sandra Bullock. I have no idea how old you are, but if I was back in South Quad I would not turn down a date with either of them. And those two haven't proven their skills all over the internet like this lovely lady has.
Are you saying that me wanting to have sex with Kate Upton is okay because I'm only 32 but somehow becomes creepy when I'm 52? Because I'm pretty sure I'll still be willing to make that happen. And if she checks the WD email thread here she'll be into it too.
|1 day 5 hours ago||Good for him||
I would post a picture of the girls I was having sex with as a freshman in college but it isn't quite Halloween yet. Still don't understand why other people enjoying their life seems to bother some folks. I say, atta boy, Mr. Brent, enjoy yourself.
|1 day 7 hours ago||Stop!||
My girl is going to be super pissed if ESPN keeps broadcasting that I'm rocking a baby arm dipped in ya-yo. Sure, I have the cash to support all the curious young ladies that show up, but that shit puts strain on a relationship.
Fuck you, Keith Olberman!
|1 day 10 hours ago||Tried to read your post||
Unfortunately, my giant penis and the large stack of cash and cocaine on my desk keep blocking my view of the screen. Really hope Keith Olbermann doesn't tell everybody about this while my home address scrawls across the bottom of the screen.
|1 day 13 hours ago||Who can say that?||
The only person to make that statement is Dave Brandon (like he did last year in his hilariously misinformed letter to the masses). An AD should always support his coach 100% right up until the moment he fires the guy, but I doubt DB is going to warm up his already smoking seat by announcing that Hoke will be his head coach indefinitely.
So, I don't think silence means anything that we don't already know at this point. Hoke is in a tight spot and the guy who could bolster him is in no position to do so with any credibility and would further risk his own position if he did so.
|1 day 13 hours ago||Barnett||
Other teams were willing to take the chance, is my point.
Even if say OU cooled on him, other big programs were happy to take him (he also visited MIami close to signing day before committing to Michigan). HIs "Hello" post here talked about him as a future all-conference player and potential All-American, even with the injury. At the time, getting him to sign fueled perception that Hoke was a master recruiter even under less than ideal circumstances, not that he was taking fliers on guys just to fill the class with warm bodies.
Hindsight is what it is, but people were way more excited about landing Barnett when it happened than they were about Norfleet or Henry. Those guys just made it to campus and have contributed to the team.
|1 day 13 hours ago||A suggestion||
Go look up Thomas Rawls' numbers this year. Or Josh Furman's. They give this one a run for its money.
|1 day 14 hours ago||Wile makes it 3/9||
Brian left him out of both columns.
But yeah, I would also point out that Rawls has rushed for 1,007 yards and 10 TD in just 6 games this year for CMU. He's the 5th leading rusher in the entire country, and #3 in yards per game.
Seems that was more a Fred Jackson not knowing who to give PT to issue than a talent one. Also, Chris Barnett had offers from pretty much every major program in the country. He blew out his knee his senior year, showed up super fat, and bolted. I'm not sure more time means we don't offer him or figure out he's a head case and refuse to take him (he decommitted from both OU and Arkansas prior to signing with UM).
Tamani Carter wasn't going to play anyway with Countess and Taylor in the class. I guess you could criticize it from a roster management perspective but that seems nitpicky, and at least he didn't take up a scholarship for years to come (he was promptly replaced with new talent).
With all that in mind, it doesn't seem much different than the rest of Hoke's classes in terms of rate of return.
|2 days 10 hours ago||Context||
Funchess has put up 76.8 yards per game and scored 4 of the team's 6 receiving TD. Darboh/Chesson/Norfleet are averaging 70.4 yards, have scored one TD between them and don't have a catch longer than 28 yards.
Funchess, while nursing various injuries, facing defenses that can completely focus on him without getting burned by any other threat, and playing in an overall bad offense, is still probably going to put up a roughly 1,000 yard season.
|2 days 11 hours ago||Or 2012||
He had a 100 yard game against Air Force, then spent the rest of the year basically as a blocking tight end. He never caught more than two passes, and never even caught two once conference play started. Meanwhile Devin Gardner was playing WR because we were supposedly so thin at that position, which apparently prevented him from ever practicing at all at QB.
Gallon, Roundtree, and Funchess would have been a pretty damn nice receiving corps and we all know how well moving DG away from the QB spot worked out.
Losing Funchess wouldn't be as depressing if we hadn't literally wasted half of his time here asking him to unsuccessfully block defensive ends instead of catching passes.
|1 week 3 days ago||NFL guys||
Most of those folks listed were not head coaches in the NFL. Al Groh was a head coach for a year when Parcells retired. Callahan got two years after Gruden left the Raiders (went to the Super Bowl in year one, stunk when guys left/retired a year later).
The list of guys who had been head coaches for any period of time is just Carroll (wildly successful), Sherman, Wannstedt, and Jim Mora, Jr.
Mike Sherman went 9-4 in his third year at A&M, sharing the Big 12 south title with OU and OSU. In year four they went 6-6 and he got fired, but they lost to end of season #3 Ok. State by one point, to #5 Arkansas by 4, to Missouri in OT, to #15 Kansas State in 4OT, to Texas by 2, and to Oklahoma. A year later they won ten games under Sumlin and have had a ton of guys drafted in the early rounds who Sherman brought in.
Wannstedt went 5-2 in the Big East in each of his last three seasons. He didn't meet high expectations, but was hardly a disaster and they've been worse every year since then.
Mora is 23-10 so far at UCLA, and last year had a very young team that went 10-3.
Considering the programs those guys were at, it isn't a bad track record at all.
|2 weeks 18 hours ago||What the fuck||
Graham played like an absolute beast under RR. He shared league MVP honors and posted 20.5 sacks in two years. Donovan Warren was first team all-conference, despite dealing with an ankle injury. Stevie Brown led the team in tackles and played very well as a senior. Brandon Minor played fantastically well when not injured (which unfortunately was most of the time). Hemingway missed virtually all of the 2008 season due to mono. When healthy in 2010, he did just as well as he did in a "pro-style" offense in 2011. Molk, Martin, and RVB were all freshmen in 2008. By 2010 Molk was a Rimington finalist, Martin was 2nd team all-conference despite playing half the year with an ankle injury (the same honors he would receive a year later under Hoke), and RVB was a very solid player.
Who was forced into a hole where they didn't belong? Those players all played at their talent level under Rich Rodriguez. The problem was guys like Ezeh, Threet/Sheridan, John Ferrara (2-star DT who had to move to offense and immediately enter the starting lineup), and a complete lack of safeties. So guys were starting simply because they existed, not because they beat anyone out for a position. I.E. the major roster issues left behind by Lloyd Carr and exacerbated by Mallett/Boren jumping ship.
There's a reason Arizona went to a bowl game in RR's first two years while Michigan didn't. Hint: it ain't because he just remembered how to coach football. And that's at a traditional bottom-feeder Pac-12 program (never been to the Rose Bowl) coming off a 4-8 season and losing an NFL QB (not to mention top three receivers and top RB).
Stop trying to justify your stupid opinion by spouting nonsense, especially when all current evidence proves your judgment to be nonsense.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Not what happened||
Junior Hemingway put up virtually identical numbers playing in the RR spread (59.3 ypg and 4 TD in 2010) as he did playing for Borges in 2011 (53.8 ypg and 4 TD). Gallon was the prototypical "slot ninja" and his huge success all came under Borges.
Good players are good. The spread guys RR brought in on the line in 2008/9 (Omameh, BWC, Lewan, Schofield) are all in the NFL (as "pro-style" as it gets). His leading receivers at Arizona are two bigger guys.
The issues Michigan football has and had in the past are not style related. The team wasn't good early in RR's tenure because he walked into a broken program at numerous positions. The team isn't good now because the slow manball guys just aren't very good at football, outside of Funchess. The problem isn't that we are trying to find the next Jason Avant, but that the guys we have aren't Jason Avant.
Looking at the current roster and the size of the recent recruiting classes, any new coach is going to have a rebuilding job in the near future no matter what. Might as well hire the right guy.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Makes sense||
Don't know that he would have a problem with the staff itself, but when the athletic director is saying you and many of your teammates had little/nothing to do with your group success (Lloyd Carr's seniors) and can't stop talking about the awesome guys who are going to replace you and many of your teammates (and then the new guys are 2-4), I can certainly understand being bitter. Especially if you scored 17 more touchdowns for Michigan than Dave Brandon ever did.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Seriously||
Where is M-Wolverine when I need him?
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Not really||
One of BWC or Q-Wash would have been on offense, Jake Fisher (who was committed initially to UM before Dave Brandon told him he had no idea who his coach would be) would have been a multi-year starter just like he has been at Oregon, and we almost certainly go heavy on o-linemen in the 2012 class.
2012 your line is Lewan, Omameh, Schofield, BWC, Barnum/Mealer/Fisher (better than what we had, and playing in the same system that suits their skillset)
2013 is Lewan, Schofield, Fisher, probably Miller at center, and the best of the RS freshmen from 2012 class
2014 can't be any worse than 2-4 can it?
An intentional one year hole in the 2010 class (created by excellent prior recruiting of three future NFL draft picks in 2009 class and an immediate need for defense) was exacerbated by Dave Brandon's bullshit (killing the 2011 recruiting class for over a year by not supporting his head coach) and Hoke's lack of familiarity with the roster.
And maybe Josh Furman is still here instead of racking up more TFL and sacks than any Michigan player at Oklahoma State.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Seriously?||
Hoke is 2-4 in year 4 on the job, got blown out by ND, Minnesota, and Utah (two of those at home), and just lost to a team that was treated as a complete joke when they joined the B1G this offseason. Things are way beyond worst case scenario bad (imagine someone predicting those results preseason), yet virtually everyone is resigned to the fact that he will at minimum finish out the season. And personally I'd be fine with giving him another year to be absolutely certain he isn't on the right track, especially if a guy like Jim Harbaugh isn't available.
I still hate Dave Brandon's guts. So do a lot of people, for myriad reasons. The students weren't chanting "FIRE HOKE". People didn't cancel their tickets before the season because they hate Brady Hoke, and certainly not because they want him shipped to David Bowie's basement in Labyrinth. People who still paid for tickets at "dynamic prices" weren't pissed to see them given away with a soft drink because of Brady Hoke. People don't hate the RAWK music because of Brady Hoke. They weren't pissed about not bringing the band to Dallas because of Brady Hoke. Need I go on?
It just so happens that the football team is in a ridiculous shithole right now, probably because everything Dave touches picks up some of his stink. But nobody is organizing boycotts and marching on the university president's doorstep because we lost to Rutgers.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Separating||
Nobody is protesting the coaching staff either. A lot of people seem to want Hoke out at this point, but all the protesting has to do with Dave Brandon. He is the one the students wanted fired, not Hoke. Nobody is talking about showing up late so we'll can Hoke and Co. It all has to do with an AD that pissed plenty of people off (both of us included) long before it became apparent that his football hire probably isn't working out.
Fine if the team is desperate for motivation, but nobody is against them. Coke giveaways, RAWK, noodles, skyrocketing prices, and treatment of long-term fans are the problems, and they have nothing to do with the players or even the football team.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||One freshman or sophomore?||
So you've resorted to flat out lying. Nicely done.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Destroyed?||
Harbaugh's team sucked for two years and was mediocre for one. So was Rodriguez's here. You claim some matter of degree means RichRod's team wasn't going to be good a year later when Harbaugh's became a powerhouse. Yet a coach you claim sucks coached that team and they won a BCS bowl. I.E. they were pretty good.
How did that happen? And I'm sure you predicted it would happen at the time like I did. And you predicted Arizona would be in the top ten, but that it would only be because of Casteel, right? You haven't just continued to argue against the guy no matter what the facts on the ground suggest, certainly? An expert prognosticator like you?
|2 weeks 1 day ago||You're right||
Michigan was fine then and we're fine now. Taking away Henne/Hart/Long/Manningham/Arrington/Adams/Crable/Mallett/Boren/etc. off a team that lost to Appalachian State is a recipe for unending success. Can't believe DickRod fucked that all up!
Don't stop believin'! The Hokester is about to turn the corner and Arizona is headed for the mountain. I just know it!
Honestly, what would have to happen (Arizona in the national title game? Rose Bowl appearance?) for you to realize that Michigan was the problem in that relationship? And please explain, how was a 4-8 Arizona team that lost Nike Foles to the NFL, its leading rusher, and its top three receivers in so much better shape than Michigan was when Rodriguez got here?
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Perspective||
One guy inherited a terrible team (Threet/Sheridan, Ferrara starting on the offensive line, etc.) and a broken program (no secondary players left by year three).
One guy inherited a Sugar Bowl winning team.
By year four one guy had the program set up for success but got booted because 3-9 is unacceptable.
By year four one guy has us at 2-4.
No one is saying Rodriguez had good teams here. Jim Harbaugh had two shitty seasons at Stanford and lost to WAKE FOREST in year three, with a defense that was statistically terrible. People with intelligence do realize that those teams looked nothing like his future teams would when guys like Lewan, Denard, Roundtree, Fitz, Gallon, etc. became upperclassmen and we weren't at a huge personnel deficit on defense. Instead of waiting one offseason to find out, you were mad about losing. As a result the program is where it is.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Just like Jim Harbaugh||
He had losing seasons at Stanford his first two years and was 9th in the Pac-10 in defense in year three when the offense carried him to a mediocre record.
Boy I bet they're glad they fired that loser. It would never have gotten better because it was bad that one time. Returning starters and empty depth chart be damned, because Baloo is fucking pissed!
|2 weeks 1 day ago||We get it||
You were super pissed off that Michigan wasn't good at football and couldn't fathom it had anything to do with anyone but the head coach. You have been proven wrong. Dramatically and demonstrably.
Continuing to mouth off like you were right just because dumbass Dave Brandon agreed with you (Looks like he knows what he's doing, right?) is the most absurd kind of stupidity I've ever encountered in my life. The retard pills this fanbase took regarding Rich Rodriguez will apparently continue to plague us for years, if not decades, to come.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Still mad at the guy?||
If our AD had not fired him after three seasons we wouldn't be the laughingstock of college football. But I'm sure you predicted Arizona would beat Oregon (both this year and last year), and that Hoke would run Michigan into the ground, so we should totally listen to your predictions and value your input.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Disagree||
If you can make a case that the team will be good next year, you don't dump Hoke for just anybody. A comparison has to happen. While I don't particularly believe we're destined for a B1G title next year, I would still rather take a chance that I'm wrong about Hoke than bring in someone with a much less impressive resume (Ron English comes to mind as a comparison that fits in the same way Hoke did with respect to RR).
Dumping RR to get Harbaugh or a guy like Gruden is a much different decision than dumping him for Hoke. In the same respect, Hoke shouldn't be dumped when most of his starters are returning (even if it is later in the process and there are no Denard-like signs for high hopes) for just anybody.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||"He needed to go"||
No, he really didn't. Especially when the best replacement available was apparently Brady Hoke. You could have waited one year and either things would have worked out fine with Rodriguez or we could have gone after Hoke (almost certainly still available), Urban Meyer, Todd Graham, Gus Malzahn, Kevin Sumlin, Mike Leach, Hugh Freeze, or Jim Mora, Jr. (just going off the list of guys that got hired that year by other programs).
Instead we're in the shitter and Arizona is in the top-10 with a freshman QB and RB.