Yea. The content is more a breakdown of the current situation. Obviously title is sensationalized. I suppose you could say my title isn't exactly accurate either since he's talking June and just over 50% chance.
According to 11W, this is further evidence that the NCAA is about to do unholy things to Michigan including giving Moore a Show Cause which would instantly put Alford in the HC role that he can't get at OSU because Day is great and Michigan cheats.
For those seriously interested in this thought, it's illegal to hire based on race. It is not illegal to hire with a focus on a certain race. It's a very fine line to walk and is a great way to end up in court. That said, it's not illegal to say you want to hire xxx race, but you can't disqualify someone because they are xxx race.
I got negged for posting something along these lines last week. Harbaugh has every right in the free market economy to do what he's doing, but let's stop with the sainthood of him. He's selfish. Even had one poster tell me I'm the type of fan who isn't a real fan and don't deserve a national championship because I called it like I saw it.
This is where we really find out if the people saying our recent success is an indicator of future success (IE, we don't need to change anything because 3 BIG Championships and a National Championship) is correct.
nice non sequitur. I'm not saying he shouldn't leave. I'm not saying the assistants shouldn't leave. I'm saying the idea that Harbaugh is this super good guy who is as purse as the freshly fallen snow and fans should only speak of him in such words is patently wrong. Harbaugh lied to the fans last year. Those are his words, not mine. I'm not putting words in his mouth and it's easily verifiable. He said "This is the last time". He also regularly said "I will coach here as long as they want me". I'm going to go on a limb and say the school still wants him. I understand coach-speak and non-answers. He did it amazingly well for the last 5 weeks since they won. So he obviously knows how to give non-answers. So don't tell me that he's just too naive. I didn't want him fired not because of who he was, but because I didn't know who you would replace him with. That doesn't mean he didn't make it tough. Stop acting like fans being any way shape or form critical of Harbaugh are less fans.
You're not entirely wrong from my point of view, but the flip side of this coin is the mentality that Harbaugh deserves no criticism for anything. That's as wrong as saying he's a horrible person for leaving. In general, Harbaugh is human and any implication otherwise because of what he did, either in terms of trophies, or in terms of his fallout, is wrong.
If you're being honest and not just applying sainthood to Harbaugh, he's been anything but loyal or honest. Last year he said the words "This is the last time". What he didn't say was "This week" or "Today" because 11 months later, he left. I get the upside and all the good stuff that he brought. That doesn't change the fact that Harbaugh is selfish and greedy and human. He's allowed to be those because the market says he can. I'm ok with that. But this idea that "Harbaugh did what he said he would do" is patently wrong. He's not been honest with fans for the last few years. He's not been honest with to his players and those he recruited (Likely). He isn't loyal. He's a fan, but not loyal. He's not honorable. He's human. So stop trying to act like fans should only speak about him in revered words.
For those interested in what a S&C coach in the NFL makes as opposed to just taking someone's word for it, I found this:
In the year 2020, Eric Ciano was named as the “Strength and Conditioning Coach of the Year”, having 11-year of experience in this field. He was the head strength coach of Buffalo Bills and his net worth is around $300,000 per annum, according to the sources. He has rewarded this title from the perspective of defensive lineman Harrison Philips is “The two things that I think Ciano does the best is number one he brings people together and it motivates everyone to accomplish goals during the season”. He further added, “Number two, he hires a fantastic group of supporting staff who go above and beyond.”
Let's just say that the NCAA decides they want their pound of flesh and do vacate games and championships. Did Jim do what he came here to do? We can't say "The NCAA is toothless" and then 2 minutes later say "Jim is leaving because the NCAA is picking on him". I also don't buy that Jim is as honorable as some of you make him out to be. He's currently under contract to coach at UM through 2026. An honorable man wouldn't break that contract. We also can't say he's as tough as he wants to portray himself if you think that it's a legitimate reason to break a contract because your boss isn't the best boss you want. Honor doesn't care about capitalistic drivers. It's doing what you said you were going to do. At the moment, he either needs to take responsibility for his hirings and team, or he can go somewhere else to avoid all the toughness coming at him.
I know I'm going to take some heat for this, but all of this can be true, and I can still want Jim here and still love what he's done here. But this sainthood we have built around Jim is putting him on a pedestal he doesn't need to be put on.
If the statements that he's asking for the new contract to not have an active date before Feb 15 is true, then that's 100% evidence that he wants to be back in the NFL. He may view this season as his last chance (not sure why, it's not like he's at an age that a coach wouldn't be in the NFL).
By the stadium is a Fiestas it’s like right next to the stadium. Last night when I drive by there, in the parking lot, was a rather large setup with gear and people shopping.
Dad and I are coming in Saturday evening. Plan to hit a few touristy things Sunday and Monday morning/afternoon. Thinking Museum of Science and the space center. Are these the two you'd recommend? or something else?
Staying near the stadium and want to find food I can't find in Atlanta or he can't find in Michigan. What's your go-to restaurant that you'd point people to? We'll be there for 6ish meals, so throw as many out as you can think of. Not looking to get dressed up, but also don't care about costs.
What if I reimbursed you for the tickets. I don't have the points to likely get them, but am willing to pay for them. Assuming they aren't upper bowl tickets. I actually already have tickets that I bought secondary (3k a piece by the way), so if I could get $1300 tickets and even give you some money to the hassle, I could resell the ones I already bought to recoup and come out ahead.
Harbaugh is on the verge of setting a record for consecutive bowl game loses. This isn't because he was set against vastly better teams. You can't even blame opt outs as every team deals with those. There's something in the way that Michigan plans for these games that we're incapable of getting past. Harbaugh at Stanford was 2-7 in bowls. Granted his talent pool there wasn't as good, but he has Since Harbaugh has arrived, he's 6-8 against non-conference power 5 opponents. He has a lot to show if we don't want to just turn into the Bills of College Football. I don't know if the mindset of B1G play doesn't translate against other conferences or if he just doesn't understand the play elsewhere. I can't imagine a game of x's and o'x can be so complicated that we're incapable of showing up in the big games.
I also wouldn’t want me daughter to marry or date 90% of men out there. That line is a complete strawman. I’m not aware of the racist things these articles purport as I don’t watch any of barstools content nor do I follow or care about portnoy. If harbsugh and Michigan are innocent until proven guilty, why isn’t portnoy.
There's nothing to imply this is the case. It's entirely possible that Stallions was doing this under the radar and Partridge started digging into how he was such a savant. He then finds out that Connor is doing something in the grey area of the rules and let's him continue doing it. He's now in the know, knows it's possibly a problem, so doesn't report it up and becomes the next one on the sacrificial pyre. I'm not saying Jay didn't know, just that this is what I would call the extreme edge of the map.
I think ESPN said they found out by a FOIA request which makes absolutely 0 sense unless the B1G is feeding things directly to ESPN under the guise that ESPN asked via the FOIA form so the B1G just gives them everything the instant they find out about it.
usually when this happens though there's a definitive outline of where the responsibilities lie. An email or reference to "I'll be the point on this, please include Warde on any communication, but expect me to be your point of contact".
This. We have far more public appearance and interaction between Santa and the football staff and players. This isn't the first time there's been a very public situation and Warde is nowhere to be found. Or if he is, it's standing on the sidelines and that's it. Players are publicly praising Santa. Why do you think that that is the acceptable response as opposed to publicly praising Warde AND Stanta? There's a trend here and it's baffling at the least.
That was one school I thought about. They threw buckets at Jimbo and that experiment isn't going well. Don't know whey they decide to cut their losses. I would think A&M would be a better opportunity than MSU. Still have to compete with Georgia, Bama, Tenn etc... but there's a massive difference between the state of A&M today and MSU today.
Did you forget that Urban is secretly committed to them and they will announce it in a couple weeks? Ishba personally give Urbs a BJ and promised him 20 year old co-eds in his office whenever he wanted to. Whether they wanted to be there or not.
The way news has been breaking in this case, I fully expect a CNN breaking news to say it has been leaked evidence that a high ranking official in the Michigan AD has emails he has sent to the NCAA saying "Fuck your rules, you can't catch us, now watch as we go scout some opponents". Just seems like any time we think we get this figured out, we step on our own dick.
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Yea. The content is more a breakdown of the current situation. Obviously title is sensationalized. I suppose you could say my title isn't exactly accurate either since he's talking June and just over 50% chance.
Yea, I realize the date. If this is a fools joke, it's on content, not a Rick Roll
According to 11W, this is further evidence that the NCAA is about to do unholy things to Michigan including giving Moore a Show Cause which would instantly put Alford in the HC role that he can't get at OSU because Day is great and Michigan cheats.
For those seriously interested in this thought, it's illegal to hire based on race. It is not illegal to hire with a focus on a certain race. It's a very fine line to walk and is a great way to end up in court. That said, it's not illegal to say you want to hire xxx race, but you can't disqualify someone because they are xxx race.
I got negged for posting something along these lines last week. Harbaugh has every right in the free market economy to do what he's doing, but let's stop with the sainthood of him. He's selfish. Even had one poster tell me I'm the type of fan who isn't a real fan and don't deserve a national championship because I called it like I saw it.
This is where we really find out if the people saying our recent success is an indicator of future success (IE, we don't need to change anything because 3 BIG Championships and a National Championship) is correct.
nice non sequitur. I'm not saying he shouldn't leave. I'm not saying the assistants shouldn't leave. I'm saying the idea that Harbaugh is this super good guy who is as purse as the freshly fallen snow and fans should only speak of him in such words is patently wrong. Harbaugh lied to the fans last year. Those are his words, not mine. I'm not putting words in his mouth and it's easily verifiable. He said "This is the last time". He also regularly said "I will coach here as long as they want me". I'm going to go on a limb and say the school still wants him. I understand coach-speak and non-answers. He did it amazingly well for the last 5 weeks since they won. So he obviously knows how to give non-answers. So don't tell me that he's just too naive. I didn't want him fired not because of who he was, but because I didn't know who you would replace him with. That doesn't mean he didn't make it tough. Stop acting like fans being any way shape or form critical of Harbaugh are less fans.
You're not entirely wrong from my point of view, but the flip side of this coin is the mentality that Harbaugh deserves no criticism for anything. That's as wrong as saying he's a horrible person for leaving. In general, Harbaugh is human and any implication otherwise because of what he did, either in terms of trophies, or in terms of his fallout, is wrong.
If you're being honest and not just applying sainthood to Harbaugh, he's been anything but loyal or honest. Last year he said the words "This is the last time". What he didn't say was "This week" or "Today" because 11 months later, he left. I get the upside and all the good stuff that he brought. That doesn't change the fact that Harbaugh is selfish and greedy and human. He's allowed to be those because the market says he can. I'm ok with that. But this idea that "Harbaugh did what he said he would do" is patently wrong. He's not been honest with fans for the last few years. He's not been honest with to his players and those he recruited (Likely). He isn't loyal. He's a fan, but not loyal. He's not honorable. He's human. So stop trying to act like fans should only speak about him in revered words.
For those interested in what a S&C coach in the NFL makes as opposed to just taking someone's word for it, I found this:
In the year 2020, Eric Ciano was named as the “Strength and Conditioning Coach of the Year”, having 11-year of experience in this field. He was the head strength coach of Buffalo Bills and his net worth is around $300,000 per annum, according to the sources. He has rewarded this title from the perspective of defensive lineman Harrison Philips is “The two things that I think Ciano does the best is number one he brings people together and it motivates everyone to accomplish goals during the season”. He further added, “Number two, he hires a fantastic group of supporting staff who go above and beyond.”
https://howigotjob.com/salary-guide/how-much-does-an-nfl-strength-coach-get-paid/#google_vignette
https://www.nsca.com/salary-survey/
Let's just say that the NCAA decides they want their pound of flesh and do vacate games and championships. Did Jim do what he came here to do? We can't say "The NCAA is toothless" and then 2 minutes later say "Jim is leaving because the NCAA is picking on him". I also don't buy that Jim is as honorable as some of you make him out to be. He's currently under contract to coach at UM through 2026. An honorable man wouldn't break that contract. We also can't say he's as tough as he wants to portray himself if you think that it's a legitimate reason to break a contract because your boss isn't the best boss you want. Honor doesn't care about capitalistic drivers. It's doing what you said you were going to do. At the moment, he either needs to take responsibility for his hirings and team, or he can go somewhere else to avoid all the toughness coming at him.
I know I'm going to take some heat for this, but all of this can be true, and I can still want Jim here and still love what he's done here. But this sainthood we have built around Jim is putting him on a pedestal he doesn't need to be put on.
If the statements that he's asking for the new contract to not have an active date before Feb 15 is true, then that's 100% evidence that he wants to be back in the NFL. He may view this season as his last chance (not sure why, it's not like he's at an age that a coach wouldn't be in the NFL).
I didn't realize the Bass Pro Shop naked swimmer was a reference to something.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/adult-swim-man-runs-into-bass-pro-shop-naked-and-jumps-into-aquarium-police-say/ar-AA1mAEv7
After the Bama game, he put out a post saying good game Michigan, but won't matter when it get vacated in a couple years. Definitely some sour grapes.
Was at the space center today. It was probably 60/40 in favor of Michigan.
Oof. Sorry it wasn’t something useful.
Second this question.
By the stadium is a Fiestas it’s like right next to the stadium. Last night when I drive by there, in the parking lot, was a rather large setup with gear and people shopping.
We're here and ready for Monday!
Any chance you will be on a Zoom call? I heard that's a great time to do that.
Have you seen RCMB? lol They have a nearly 1300 page thread that is almost always at the top of the page.
Per our friends in Ohio, nothing beats a good cooler.
Dad and I are coming in Saturday evening. Plan to hit a few touristy things Sunday and Monday morning/afternoon. Thinking Museum of Science and the space center. Are these the two you'd recommend? or something else?
Staying near the stadium and want to find food I can't find in Atlanta or he can't find in Michigan. What's your go-to restaurant that you'd point people to? We'll be there for 6ish meals, so throw as many out as you can think of. Not looking to get dressed up, but also don't care about costs.
Mel Tugger would like a word with you.
Should also say, the NCAA and the Power 5. If a mom can update it, I'd be super stoked.
I mean /s understood, but do you know how hard it is to scroll all the way back up to the top! My finger getting workouts now!
What if I reimbursed you for the tickets. I don't have the points to likely get them, but am willing to pay for them. Assuming they aren't upper bowl tickets. I actually already have tickets that I bought secondary (3k a piece by the way), so if I could get $1300 tickets and even give you some money to the hassle, I could resell the ones I already bought to recoup and come out ahead.
Harbaugh is on the verge of setting a record for consecutive bowl game loses. This isn't because he was set against vastly better teams. You can't even blame opt outs as every team deals with those. There's something in the way that Michigan plans for these games that we're incapable of getting past. Harbaugh at Stanford was 2-7 in bowls. Granted his talent pool there wasn't as good, but he has Since Harbaugh has arrived, he's 6-8 against non-conference power 5 opponents. He has a lot to show if we don't want to just turn into the Bills of College Football. I don't know if the mindset of B1G play doesn't translate against other conferences or if he just doesn't understand the play elsewhere. I can't imagine a game of x's and o'x can be so complicated that we're incapable of showing up in the big games.
I also wouldn’t want me daughter to marry or date 90% of men out there. That line is a complete strawman. I’m not aware of the racist things these articles purport as I don’t watch any of barstools content nor do I follow or care about portnoy. If harbsugh and Michigan are innocent until proven guilty, why isn’t portnoy.
They also can't read and just randomly click on things on their favorite websites with lots of videos and pictures.
There's nothing to imply this is the case. It's entirely possible that Stallions was doing this under the radar and Partridge started digging into how he was such a savant. He then finds out that Connor is doing something in the grey area of the rules and let's him continue doing it. He's now in the know, knows it's possibly a problem, so doesn't report it up and becomes the next one on the sacrificial pyre. I'm not saying Jay didn't know, just that this is what I would call the extreme edge of the map.
I think ESPN said they found out by a FOIA request which makes absolutely 0 sense unless the B1G is feeding things directly to ESPN under the guise that ESPN asked via the FOIA form so the B1G just gives them everything the instant they find out about it.
Florida could be a problem with FSU. Miami is hot garbage and if their QB doesn't get hurt, may have taken it to OT at least.
34 - 17 the good guys.
well played. Now if only Michael Bolton would show up and sing at one of our games.
usually when this happens though there's a definitive outline of where the responsibilities lie. An email or reference to "I'll be the point on this, please include Warde on any communication, but expect me to be your point of contact".
This. We have far more public appearance and interaction between Santa and the football staff and players. This isn't the first time there's been a very public situation and Warde is nowhere to be found. Or if he is, it's standing on the sidelines and that's it. Players are publicly praising Santa. Why do you think that that is the acceptable response as opposed to publicly praising Warde AND Stanta? There's a trend here and it's baffling at the least.
Tucker is also an MSU facial expert. He prefers to do his over Zoom.
That one made me laugh. Good stuff.
Interesting. 2 bye weeks.
I wasn't aware of the other sport stuff going on. Interesting.
I didn't think about Florida. They may be moving on soon and him returning home probably isn't a bad thought for him.
MSU went with the check-box coach last time. He met DEI requirements but wasn't a good coach. They got lucky he decided to beat off on a phone call.
That was one school I…
That was one school I thought about. They threw buckets at Jimbo and that experiment isn't going well. Don't know whey they decide to cut their losses. I would think A&M would be a better opportunity than MSU. Still have to compete with Georgia, Bama, Tenn etc... but there's a massive difference between the state of A&M today and MSU today.
The internet right now.
The internet right now.
Did you forget that Urban is secretly committed to them and they will announce it in a couple weeks? Ishba personally give Urbs a BJ and promised him 20 year old co-eds in his office whenever he wanted to. Whether they wanted to be there or not.
Is this one of the expected news pieces?
I would put a huge asterisk next to this as this is coming from Tony Garcia. Looks like Rittenberg just copied and pasted Garcia's article.
The way news has been breaking in this case, I fully expect a CNN breaking news to say it has been leaked evidence that a high ranking official in the Michigan AD has emails he has sent to the NCAA saying "Fuck your rules, you can't catch us, now watch as we go scout some opponents". Just seems like any time we think we get this figured out, we step on our own dick.
Side note, I now want a "M Espionage Video Dept." T-shirt. Has to have the back wording too about blocking the camera.