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|13 hours 31 min ago||Ncaa bylaw 13.09.2 provides||
Ncaa bylaw 13.09.2 provides that once you enroll in college you are no longer a prospective student athlete. Wayne Lyons should not be subject to ncaa bylaw 13.10.2 regarding the public mention of a PSA. So, both Zordich and his mom should be okay. Unless, it isn't as simple as the wording in the bylaws.
|1 day 20 hours ago||Franklin||
How did those camps work out for Franklin? Any commits? Any guys in this year's class with PSU leading and who went to the camps?
|1 day 20 hours ago||Character||
I miss it. I miss the character. I miss the unassuming look of the place that opened up into a sea of people once you walked inside. It was unique and awesome.
The new stadium feels similar to other large sporting venues. It is loud. It is big. It is a large building.
Of course, as an old man, the amenities, extra exit points and other features make the new place nice. But, I would have put up with that.
I do not miss the lack of handrails on the stairs heading down to seats. I do not miss the fire safety issues in the stadium. I do not miss hearing the wind blow louder than the section across the way. I do not miss the lack of a replay board.
But, I would take it all back, just like I would take back Bo (despite any drawbacks with the modern game).
|6 days 19 hours ago||great stuff||
|1 week 13 hours ago||woo hooo!!!||
let them burn!!! they call people names and peopke call them names. But, we have something to prove and that will solidify our inferioriry!!!!
|1 week 15 hours ago||mre 401||
that is all. thanks for playing.
|1 week 15 hours ago||filing charges||
has no bearing on the relevancy of a defense. plus, in a normal situation it also affects prosecutorial discretion. also relevant to sentencing. also relevant to civil liability damages. but you think filing charges means that the prpsecutors think nothing aside from their allegations are relevant to civil or crimjnal liability?
|1 week 17 hours ago||???||
explained to me? what?? i am talking about the law son. it is relevant. legally and realisticlly. i am not guessing at that. jusy because someone here disagrees with the law, it doesnt mean they "explained" something.
|1 week 17 hours ago||wink||
wink. wink. Yeah, lets have these outsiders get yhere due in front of a jury of their "peers" in Gaylord. i agree. this is justice!!!
|1 week 18 hours ago||Good!!! Felonies all||
Good!!! Felonies all around!!!! Let's ruin these kids lives!! That'll teach them to disrespect the God-fearing people of Gaylord (even though they just disrespected the property of a bankrupt business....but it was Gaylord's business!!!)
|1 week 23 hours ago||Coach Fracassa||
I got to play for Coach Fracassa. Great guy.
As for the recruiting..... I transferred into BR from a public school. At the public school I stareted both ways as a frosh and was bumped up to JV from the freshman team at the end of the year. (Not that big a deal. I was okay.) When I got to BR people thought I was recruited there. I was shocked. That was FAR from the truth. I changed schools for other reasons (academic). My dad actually didn't like Fracassa (for a weird reason), but I wanted to go there. I played some for them, but only in certain defenses. The kids at Rice were much better than I had seen before and I stopped growing too.
I don't think it is recruiting as much as it is kids want to play at those schools. Really, there isn't much difference between a kid or parent contacting Rice and a Rice booster mentioning Rice to a family with a great player. The public schools get bummed about it because people rarely transfer into great coaches there (but that seems to be changing).
Anyway, Fracassa might have played at MSU, I think. I don't think he cared for Michigan all that much. He wanted his players to play college ball if they could and Michigan was pretty picky with their interest in his players. So, while I have a lot of respect for my former coach, when I see this pitcure I get the sense he was more excited to talk MSU and/or Izzo with Mooch.
|1 week 2 days ago||2006||
Michigan at OSU. Broken heart.
|1 week 3 days ago||It doesn't matter when it||
It doesn't matter when it comes to the amount to be repaid. It matters for criminal prosecution. If you destroyed a family heirloom, veteran's exhibit or small family business your actions are more likely to result in prosecution. If it is a bankrupt company or abandoned home, it is less likely to result in criminal prosecution.
|1 week 3 days ago||Assessment of its||
Assessment of its seriousness. Just because the public outcry demands immediate action doesn not mean the acts are more serious in themselves. If this was not a socioeconomic hot button issue (rich privileged kids versus rural community), and it involved local Gaylord kids destroying things it would be as serious as the civil liability.
|1 week 3 days ago||confusion||
you are confusing public backlash with the seriouness of the acts. civil liability is the only accurate assessment.
|1 week 3 days ago||very serious here||
|1 week 3 days ago||i agree||
but just because someone else is a bad brother, does that give you the right to do the same? maybe in serious circumstances...
|1 week 3 days ago||Hmm...||
1. With respect to PSU, nothing I saw about today's scandal involved a cover-up like the Sandusky scndal. We are talking about the concious decision not to turn people in once something is being investigated. That sounds more like the first PSU scndal and not like the one discussed directly below this. You made a poor analogy either way.
2. You confuse absolution for all financial damage with a defense to anything further being done to them. the fact they have to repay money has NOTHING to do with the financial status of the victim. That is relevant to the next thing...
3. Although the full amount should be repaid, the status of the business and the severity of such property damage to that business is VERY relevant to whether there should be any criminal charges. Sorry, but that is how justice works. There is proescutorial discretion (provided there are no angry masses like in Gaylord) and the judge has latititude in sentencing based on things such as ....the suffering of the "victim."
So you are wrong about there being some intrinsic right or wrong that applies regardless of the situation. Your inability to apply things on a more specific basis would make you a horrible, horrible judicial decision maker. In fact, judges have been attacked as subject to removal for an inflexible application of the law.
Good luck with your impractical logic.
|1 week 3 days ago||threat to society?||
really? wow. they shpuld pay it back. iy should not be mimimized below that or agrandized to something more serious like a threat to society. right?
|1 week 3 days ago||What is repugnant....||
What is repugnant is your description of these property damage crimes to a defunct business as "serious violations of the law" and analogizing it to the child rape that happened as PSU.
Seriously, get control over yourself.
This is property damage to a bankrupt business. It should be reimbursed completely, but the only victim here is someone's bottom line.
PSU is as close to this as trees are close to being gorillas.
|1 week 3 days ago||Much much closer||
The line is much, much closer to a single car accident that causes no injury and only property damage. It is closer to "pranks" that include vandalism of public property. It is closer to illegal dumping, etc.
It is really hard to even draw a line between property damage crimes and victim crimes. They exist on seperate planes.
|1 week 3 days ago||Woah||
Rape? Murder? Those are not even on the same planet as what happened. They beat up a building and business that was in bankruptcy. Financial standing was the only victim of the crime.
Of course you give up the murderer. That is an easy one.
Try something closer to what happened. Do you give up the guy who ran into a lightpost with his car late at night? That may cause $50K in damages to the car and lightpost, whereas this Treetops thing is probably closer to $100K (using non-inflated numbers).
How about very, very mild vandalism like painting the rock?
What they did was wrong. But, feeding their members over to the local prosecutor who has little choice but to throw the book at them for this seems much more defensible in light of the circumstances.
|1 week 3 days ago||Epitome of a "fraternity"?||
Nobody thinks what these kids did was okay. They should have to pay to make the business whole.
But, isnt it odd that they are standing together instead of ratting each other out? Isn't that more true to the idea of "brotherhood" and "fraternity" than anything else?
Rat a fellow member out and see the prosecutor of Gaylord bring down the publicly-approved hammer, which may get members thrown in jail for breaking the assets of a business in bankruptcy... or, lose sanctioned participation in greek life activities at the University of Michigan and find a new place to live?
I don't know. I was never in a fraternity, but they sound like a fraternity,
|1 week 3 days ago||But, after the additions the||
But, after the additions the conference is less likely to be that odd conference out of the picture, also they add some revenue and they have substantially increased their presence in big markets. That last point is important even if cable gives way to ala cart channels. Which games are picked up by the network for prime time? Those with some appeal in major markets. Who is on national, broadcast TV, a UM versus Mizzou game or UM versus MD (football)? I think the answer is easy. Even if a ton of people in DC and NYC don't order BTN once everything is ala cart (note that both those schools have very big alumni bases), they still may have some passing note rest in the game which increases eyeballs. From a FINANCIAL aspect only, the growth of ala cart cable doesn't do much to mitigate against the benefit over adding those two schools instead of not doing it.
|1 week 3 days ago||Super conferences seem to be||
Super conferences seem to be the future. Could they just pretend otherwise?
|1 week 3 days ago||Yes, but who would have been||
Yes, but who would have been a better choice in that respect (I.e. Contiguous schools with fans willing to pay)??
|1 week 3 days ago||I have seen this a lot on||
I have seen this a lot on here. I think it is just the nature of the Internet. People are meaner about things than usual. Not all people, but a significant portion. It's a place to rant and be unreasonable and uncontrolled. It is a beautiful thing after a big win or game, but gets really ugly when things go sour.
|1 week 4 days ago||Why do people think this||
Why do people think this mitigates against the Big Ten taking Rutgers and Maryland? I know that the Bg Ten can use those schools to force into those big cable markets. But, isn't it better to have big schools as part of your channel even if people are buying ala cart? Rutgers and MD are top 40 in enrollment, tons of alums and a good percentage of sports fans. What other schools could the conference have added that would have been more financially beneficial than those two, even on an ala cart basis? (Keep in mind they have to be close enough to travel to often).
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Man, this could spin off into||
Man, this could spin off into a political discussion very, very easily....
|2 weeks 3 days ago||good||
it's good they are not throwing out names to the people of Gaylord, who want blood!!!