The D-League as petri dish for weird basketball concepts.
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|2 days 16 hours ago||Brent Petway Had a class with||
Had a class with him & we were in a group project together. He called the phone # listed on my U-M directory page (my parents house) & asked for me in his umm...unique means of diction. My parents were quite puzzled who the heck it was
/cool story bro
|1 week 5 days ago||Such an ironic analogy...we||
Such an ironic analogy...we literally JUST got back from the 20 week ultrasound. I would have been very excited either way but...:-)
|3 weeks 3 days ago||I was one of the people||
I was one of the people disagreed with your attempts to shut down discussion of next season (or as another poster well said...daydream about next year)...but yeah this is just plain silly.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||HAHAHA....HAHAHAHAHA...OK||
Actually, now that I've stopped laughing, the SEC may not negative recruit...I mean stacks of cash are pretty universally seen as a positive yes?
|3 weeks 4 days ago||That's 4 post GIF...I'll||
That's 4 post GIF...I'll allow it!! POSBANG!
|4 weeks 3 days ago||MARK DANTONIO IS THE DEVIL!||
MARK DANTONIO IS THE DEVIL!
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Since we're talking (again)||
Since we're talking (again) about it, was gibbons actually hurt for OSU? Do we know if this was when the AD/Hoke knew something was amiss?
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I wasn't there so I certainly||
I wasn't there so I certainly don't know what happened. But I'd like to start a discussion point from a different analogy so I replied to get this a little higher in the thread.
I see similarities to the NCAA vs. Penn State. Major differences here are that the evidence was overwhelming in that case, and more importantly there were concurrant criminal proceedings. Of course this is not a perfect analogy, but it raises a question-
Here's my point: Did you (MgoBloggers) think then, and do you think now, that an organizational body that has noting to do with the criminal justice system (NCAA/OSCR) that does not have investigational power, should be able to dole out punishments for criminal (felony) actions?
I don't have the right answer to this. I was so angry at PSU for turning a blind eye that I wanted to see them punished, but leveling the punishment that the NCAA did for non-football related felonies was inconsistent with their previous punishments.
In this case now, we know there will be no criminal charges, but yet someone has leaked this and we all know are thinking that Gibbons is guilty of commiting this act (WHICH IS A FELONY).
As I've stated in other threads, I'm more comfortable with organizations within the criminal justice system investigating and punishing criminal acts. Thoughts?
|5 weeks 2 days ago||A prison sentance it is not,||
A prison sentance it is not, but expelling someone from a University is quite a large punishment for a body that has no investigative power and is acting completely outside of the criminal justice system.
While we all agree that further steps should be taken to punish (& therefore reduce the incident) of sexual assult, this policy (to me) has multiple large flaws.
This is a difficult, delicate situation where we are trying to balance victim's rights vs. accused rights.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Mods I suggest this is worthy||
Mods I suggest this is worthy of bump. Just fantastic (informative too)
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Good points. My larger point||
Good points. My larger point is that regardless of intention, the consequences of this governing body's decision are very real and have profound effect (agreed that Gibbons already graduating is not the point here).
The problem with your analogy is that the person in question is not being reprimanded (or 'administrative action' or any other euphemism) for cheating on a test. The person is being reprimanded for what is in fact a very significant crime. So punishing someone for a criminal act without them being charged as such strikes me as quite odd.
I've tried for the most part to post about this policy in general terms and not specifically about this case, but I would add that in a case such as this where the person in question is a well known member of the student body, this person is now publically known as guilty of improper sexual conduct/assult (even if this is not the intended effect, are we to think anything else?) Phrased another way, I would argue that most people here, regardless of how they felt before yesterday, now are more likely to believe that Gibbons did perpetrate this act. This happened without criminal due process (although I agree he was given administrative due process in this case).
Bottom Line (for me)- I think something this profound and significant I would prefer to have handled in the court as opposed to a body completely outside of the criminal justice system, but I am open to counter-argument
|5 weeks 3 days ago||A good explanation, but I||
A good explanation, but I would argue that expelling them from school is quite a significant punishment in itself. The punished will have quite a difficult time explaining to potential employers why they transfered schools, especially like someone in this situation who is likely only a few credits from graduation.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||I suppose I don't understand||
I suppose I don't understand the policy. A schools' non-investagory body can, in the absence of criminal or civil charges, irreporably punish someone accused of a crime, including when the alleged victim does not pursue action. This again is done completely outside of the crinal justice or legal system. And you have a weaker standard of guilt than what has been used for hundreds of years to determine innocence or guilt? Am I describing this wrong?
To me this seems like this has the potential to have problems. BIG problems. False accusations are of course the risk that comes to mind. I AM NOT SAYING OR ARGUING THAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE, but am trying to get clarification (not a lawyer) on a policy which does not make sense given my understanding.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||I agree with this in theory,||
I agree with this in theory, but to what end?
If someone sustains a chondral (cartilege) injury to their knee during their playing days, should their knee replacement in 25 years be covered? This is the long term result of the injury (in this scenario), and who pays for this? Interesting idea, but limits need to be applied
*disclaimer-this is coming from someone who has seen mulitple people have worker's compensation cover knee replacements from work injuries over 20 years old (and a couple of revision knee replacements as well)
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Ouch. There's not even an||
Ouch. There's not even an ideal bar in Baltimore let alone Townson. But if you're willing to travel down 83...then Maiseys in Mt Vernon (Owner is a big fan, small crowds) or Slainte (not sure how big the contingent is these days)
|6 weeks 4 hours ago||Can't...stop...watching||
|6 weeks 1 day ago||So do good things happen in||
So do good things happen in 3s...lets hope so!!! (& yes that can be taken 2 equally as glorious ways)
|6 weeks 3 days ago||I'm all for a good snowflakes||
I'm all for a good snowflakes thread, but my snowflake is POSBANG!
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Go Blue! Beat State!||
Go Blue! Beat State!
|6 weeks 3 days ago||If you ain't first you're||
If you ain't first you're last...
|6 weeks 3 days ago||He moved to WMU this year.||
He moved to WMU this year. Although they're both "directional Michigan" schools, Western has a history that includes periods of success. Eastern...not so much
|6 weeks 5 days ago||On phone but +1 for that. I||
On phone but +1 for that. I lol'd
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Sounds good to me. That's||
Sounds good to me. That's just modern college football. Successful offenses with immobile artillery piece qbs are the exception to the rule
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Obviously the change in OC is||
Obviously the change in OC is motivating a lot of this, but how far off of the list of 8 guys you recently put together has U-M gone now with their offers? Seems like a clear shift in rankings of recruits by coach(es), if not a complete change in philosophy.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Who invited Debbie Downer to||
Who invited Debbie Downer to the PosBang?
We can still posbang for U-M being at the top of the B1G btw
|6 weeks 5 days ago||You just leaving this up as||
You just leaving this up as an example then? Like a pirate in gallows?
|6 weeks 5 days ago||"Being lound, being rude, not||
"Being lound, being rude, not giving a f!#@"
This isn't an acceptable part of any culture. I don't think that we should allow any excuse for allowing these actions/lack of values. There are certain things that are right and wrong, and being rude and not caring about others is WRONG. For all people
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Sherman was the one called||
Sherman was the one called for the penatly
|7 weeks 4 days ago||/s = sarcasm...but nice rant||
/s = sarcasm...but nice rant
|7 weeks 4 days ago||You do realize this is a||
You do realize this is a Michigan sports blog right?