Coaches' timeouts are worse. Basketball teams should get one, full stop.
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|26 weeks 3 days ago||The Victors needs woodwinds||
MMB will always need full woodwind instrumentation, because you can't play The Victors properly without a strong woodwind section -- I hate to admit it being a former trombone player, but clarinets are critical on that one. So MMB will always be quieter than bands that can load up on brass. MMB was a bit louder when they did more high step. It required greater conditioning, and you had a whole lot of extra air in your lungs you had to exhale quickly, and you exhaled through the horn. But they can do much more intricate stuff now than they could in the old days, so it's a wash, I suppose. Other bands, especially Wisconsin, do "death marches" where they just work on volume at the expense of everything else. Michigan has never done that, and probably never will.
|36 weeks 15 hours ago||Heading to the river||
Canoeing on the Au Sable. First time in ten years. First time with my daughter! Hoping for a break in the weather...
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Ridiculous...||
That's like saying the team is at its best the first game of the year because it's had all spring and summer to prepare for that opponent.
To a lesser extent, certainly, (but the analogy still holds) the band is a progressively better unit each week. You have kids of all different talent levels, from all different high school marching styles, many of whom are petrified to be in front of 100k+ for the first time, putting on a show after only a week and a half or so together. Many of them are still trying to learn how to high step eight-to-five and play at the same time when it's time for "entry lines at the mouth of the tunnel."
|1 year 46 weeks ago||I applaud...||
I applaud your tireless commitment to the band I love. But part of the M experience is exactly what we see here. No 5-star recruit is guaranteed a minute of playing time. No band member ( in a much lesser role, I'm not trying to equate a trombone player to Denard) is guaranteed anything either. Join the MMB, and you'll get an unbelievable, life-changing experience. You might, like me, have five unforgettable bowl trips in five years. Or you might endure the RR years. You might, like me, hear Harbaugh's leg break and have the whole season fall apart. But the M experience transcends all the crappy little details. You get the privilege of being part of the legacy if you join MMB. If an unprecedented extra trip materializes, fabulous. If it evaporates, like our trip to Australia, then fine, you put that on your T-shirts (like our percussionists did), you laugh about it, and you add it to the heritage. It's all OK.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Your point is well taken but...||
Your point is well taken, but this is business as usual at M. When I was in the band, we were promised a tour of Australia (I kid you not) that never materialized because one graduate assistant behaved unethically. All band travels, even those to minor bowl games, are tentative until you board the plane. That's always how it's been at M. That's part of what you get when you're part of the MMB. MMB is the best experience you'll ever have, but this is part of the ride.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||MMB funding||
The MMB has always been a part of the School of Music, unlike most colleges where the marching band is part of the athletic department. Of course, the athletic department transfers monies to the School of Music for bowl game expenses for the MMB, and other expenses where appropriate. But I think the separation of MMB from the athletic dept has always limited MMB funding vis-a-vis other schools.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||I mean this graciously...||
I was on the MMB equipment staff for three years, and all the MMB equipment, from sousaphones to piccolos, fits nicely in an average Ryder truck. You're right on that account. But M just doesn't send the MMB on road trips. Never has, apparently never will. This is absolutely business as usual. The band goes to ND, MSU, Ohio, maybe one other gratuitous game, the bowl game, and that's it. Most every student involved is content with current arrangement.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Well put. There's more||
Well put. There's more contention than outsiders realize, but in the end we all just want success for all things Michigan.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||I love your sentiment, I love||
I love your sentiment, I love the band, but....
Bo hired a professional band to play The Victors at the early rounds of basketball tournament games instead of bringing the M BB band. Bo would have done what made financial sense. He wasn't terribly nostalgic. I love watching the band play anywhere, but let's not appeal to Bo on this one.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Let's see... Does M ever play||
The band rarely travels anywhere else, except bowl games.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||What to do with the MMB||
Let's think this through....
At this point, M gets no additional revenue by bringing the band. It's just an expense. The benefit to UM comes through exposure of the band to a non-B10 audience. But is this the best venue? Let's face it, as band insiders, admit that the band is not very good the first few weeks of the season. They pretty much suck until week 3-4. All band officianados know this to be true. By Band-o-Rama the band is world class. Not in week 1.
That makes more sense than going to Dallas.
If it were up to me, I'd send the band to every game. But let's argue for the next realistic step in the right direction.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Well, in spite of the||
Well, in spite of the negbangs for sharing actual history: when a group of us went (at our own expense) to a road game, Bo was mad that we played within earshot of the team when the team was supposed to be "quietly reflecting" before the game. I'm not complaining about Bo, I revere the guy. But I was in the band for five years, on band staff for three years, and Bo always, consistently, merely seemed to tolerate us.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Agreed. I'd want to go if I||
Agreed. I'd want to go if I were still in the band. And I think it's the better move for Brandon. But he's following a decades old M precedence of not utilizing the band to the fullest, IMHO.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||There is no way Bo ever said||
There is no way Bo ever said that, unless it was in jest or playing to a particular audience. Bo was the one who hired a band instead of bringing the basketball band to early tournament games. I was in the MMB when Bo was coach. He was always cordial to us, but he obviously was NOT passionate about us going to the games.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Not unusual||
I was in the band 5 years (a slow engineering student), and we only went to one regular season away game besides MSU, ND, or Ohio. That one game was to beautiful Urbana, IL, and it was a very forgettable trip. Regular season road trips are nothing like bowl trips. They're actually a bit of a drag. They are done as quickly and cheaply as possible.
|2 years 27 weeks ago||Class guy||
Lee Roy was revered here in Southern Florida. I never knew much about him, but everything I've learned suggests he was a class act all the way through his playing days and beyond. He has a chain of restaurants / sports bar named after him, and I watch all my M games there. Nice place.
|2 years 35 weeks ago||Fudging attendance numbers||
That game convinced me the attendance numbers sometimes get fudged. There is no way 100k people showed. It was freezing rain blowing horizontally. It was painful to leave your face exposed.
I got my tickets from one of the coaches, who later laughed at me for even attending, let alone staying the whole game. My stepson spent most of it in the men's room trying to get warm. It was brutal. But memorable!
|2 years 43 weeks ago||Exactly||
For those to lazy to click:
"I know what our recruiting emphasis is going to be," Wolverines defensive coordinator Greg Mattison told me last month in Ann Arbor. "We need to get bigger, stronger defensive linemen. We've got to get bigger in a lot of ways on defense, and that's how we're recruiting."
The philosophy in D recruiting has changed. The results will become evident over time.
Also, has anyone else noticed that coach Jackson is now recruiting SE Michigan instead of the South? They're keeping the coaching connection to Carr in-state. Apparently they are playing off the perception that RR was not received well by local HS coaches.
|2 years 44 weeks ago||Actually,||
It was the Capitol One Bowl in 2008. Not to quibble.
|2 years 44 weeks ago||Yeah, well...||
How many of us HAVEN'T done it dozens of times? Not to excuse the kid, but let's not get all high and mighty.
|2 years 44 weeks ago||unfortunately it's Angelique||
Unfortunately, Angelique works for the News and not the Freep, so there's no point wondering whether or not the story is even true.
Hope Stonum finally gets the wake-up call this time.
|2 years 45 weeks ago||Nicely said, Coach||
"...he just sort of knew that he was wasting his time looking at other places because Michigan had everything he wanted."
Can't imagine putting it any better than that.
|2 years 48 weeks ago||Men amongst boys. Translate||
Men amongst boys. Translate for gender, as needed. Dominant through 2.
|2 years 48 weeks ago||They've added that early||
They've added that early audition, then. Probably a wise move. I still feel sorry for a couple of those girls. (Yes, there was a guy, too, but I didn't see him get voted down)
Thanks for the info.
|2 years 48 weeks ago||Better this way||
That was a tough way to do it, auditioning in August right before the start of the season. Seems a bit more humane the new way. I had a good friend who was runner-up in the August audition, couldn't deal with it, and never walked into Revelli Hall again. If she would have had the summer to think things through, she would probably have been back.
Do they still audition the twirlers in August before the whole band, or has that changed too? It used to be done exactly like the drum majors. That was brutal, too. Another good friend was crushed by that process as a freshman. She stayed with it, but it always stayed with her for her four years in the band.
|3 years 9 weeks ago||Hmmm. What's Elway doing at||
Hmmm. What's Elway doing at the game? Should I panic?
|3 years 9 weeks ago||Had a friend in the Stanford||
Had a friend in the Stanford band in the late 1980's. He was in the MMB as an undergrad, then went to Stanford for grad school. He said they had a keg in the band hall at each rehearsal, and a big sign at the front of the room read, "No Fat Chicks!"
|3 years 10 weeks ago||Guys, I mean no disrespect,||
Guys, I mean no disrespect, but there's a reason RR is getting no love from the who's who in AA. Yes, he's loved by his players, but just about every coach in America is loved by his players. The nearly unanimous word from those at the U who have dealt with RR is that he and those he brought with him came in claiming they were going to take Michigan and "turn it into something," and that arrogance still pervades in spite of all the evidence to the contrary. He has never shown an admiration for the Bo-Mo-Lo era, he blames his players instead of his own failures to prepare them, and he has no hint of self-deprecation. When he's gone, none of his bosses will miss him. If your head says "let him go," let your heart go along with your head on this one.
|3 years 10 weeks ago||Sign problem here too...||
My daughter wants to bring in a sign too, but I can't think of anything clever. Anyone have anything original but not-too-profane I can suggest? Something pro-Denard might be nice.
|3 years 19 weeks ago||Thanks, Tom. Done with class||
Thanks, Tom. Done with class as always. You get the info we all crave without badgering these kids or in any way hurting our chances with them, which is something most of us would probably not be able to do.
Much appreciated. Desmond looks like a great fit.