First, thanks for your contributions here. Second, weak sauce for downvoting a different opinion.
that's great if he is a captain. I hope he does really well. My point still stands that talent and bball IQ will buy him playing time, not a sense of loyalty. FYI, most haven't been around campus or the players that post on here, doesn't mean we aren't allowed/qualified to have any opinions.
Mahomes has done pretty well after playing in Texas. I think it's a bit of hyperbole, players adjust pretty easily. Look at players that live in Denver, they adjust to altitude. I don't think it will make a huge difference.
I'll give you his 3 point shooting, but I really doubt loyalty to program is earning any playing time from a new coach turning around a dumpster fire (or any coach, really). The best options to win will play, and I really don't see tschetter getting close to starter minutes. Every other role looks average to great on D, can't have an obvious liability out there because he has grit.
Good for you! I'm starting the spark aligners soon, finalizing x-rays next week. Very excited to love my smile for once (although it will take 20 months).
I'm drinking some hazy ipa, some d'usse, and a few great lakes lagers.
I was watching the talking heads while at a restaurant for lunch yesterday, and the question was should JJ be a top 5 pick (it was muted, but that was the tag line for the discussion). I couldn't hear (re on mute) and there was no closed captioning, but Stephen A Smith was spouting something off and showed plays of JJ's picks this year. I was like what, he only has 4 and 3 were from BGSU. They even showed the almost INT from the Rose Bowl. Man, these guys try so hard to be controversial, and it worked - my blood was boiling.
I know we can't put too much stock in freshman, but couldn't this team be moderately better than a bubble team with the transfers being discussed?
I realize the team was hot garbage this year, but these are pretty decent starters. I'm probably choosing to be overly optimistic, but with good coaching and a little luck, they could get some momentum early. State wasn't even on the bubble with like 18 wins. I know 8 to 18 (or 20!) is a big jump, but this was a historically ass year and some natural reversion to the mean should be expected.
you seem to be trying to catch everyone in a logic trap here. I don't recall you ever being so negative on anything before, maybe I'm just not remembering (I'm here everyday, though).
Who did you think was the slam dunk hire that UM passed up?
I don't mind the cussin' on message boards, but aggressive statements like "shut the fuck up" are part of what's wrong with message board and key board warriors. Would you say that to someone's face who was having a discussion with you? If so, that's even more problematic, as that's what's leading to the inability to debate or discuss something with nearly anyone in today's world.
I tutored Manny and DeShawn one time (as in, one session). It was a Classics class (I was a classics minor). Humble brag, I was the only undergrad who was hired by the university to tutor athletes on the recommendation of a professor, usually it was grad school students. This was a big deal to me at the time, because I usually tutored wrestling and volleyball athletes, not basketball (and football had separate tutors). I haven't told that story in years, and am very grateful for one more retelling lol.
I live in the Chicago burbs, and I can tell you that every ILL fan I have ever met hates Michigan with the fiery passion of a thousands suns. Even more odd, they think they are huge rivals. I'm just fine with them losing.
I would think replays would have to be more objective because there is (usually) more clear and obvious answers that are more heavily scrutinized, given the 10 minutes the zebras take to make a call.
There are over 500k alums. Let's say 50 athletes (5 basketball players/year for 10 years) get preferential/undeserving degrees. Is that really reducing the value of your degree vs the 500k "deserving" grads? I can see on disagreeing on principle, but not in actual perception. I knew someone who was a professor's son (non-athlete), and he didn't know 10th grade math in his sophomore year at UM.
It's hard to maintain even one at an elite level. Some schools have done both (Texas, Florida, osu, UM) for a few years, but nobody can do both consistently, it seems.
It's not UMs job to be the white knight to save the b12/acc/smaller conferences. They take all the risk, none of the reward. ND felt very slighted by with new playoff format. They will be conference shopping soon enough, methinks. I don't want to trade the other b1g semi-rivalries (Iowa, psu, Wisconsin etc) for NC state, etc. Not to mention the non-football component.
Well that's usually when there are a ton of opt outs and apathy. The upset that derailed UM season was a 2 vs 3. It wasn't a mid major.
In basketball, shooting could be ice cold (ie 3/20 from 3), and just 1 player can take over a game since the same 5 play on O and D vs 22. My point is that liberty and ucf are rarely beating the big dogs, and not 3-4 games in a row. And we have seen that, it's not like "oh I wonder what would happen".
We know what would happen. 2016 wmu lost its bowl game to a 3 loss Wisconsin team. Liberty got shellacked by Oregon this year. Boise state had an epic win against Oklahoma (one of the best games of all time), but it took double OT and every trick play known to man. If they played an Alabama or Georgia or UM equivalent very next week, they probably lose badly, too. Basketball allows in a lot more teams, and can be more flukey. Football isn't analogous.
ND will join a conference in the next 5-7 years. Trying to emulate that would slightly delay the inevitable at a major cost to UM ($$, reputation, rivalries, prestige). Cutting off nose to spite face. No thanks.
Year 1, maybe so. Keeping Washington, Reed, dug + the 3 recruits may be better than whatever roster UM rolls out next year. But pretty sure in year 5 (or even year 2+) the next coach won't be having perhaps the worst year ever in the program. That's just...ugh. it's abysmal.
UM may not be a blue blood, but they have quite a history and are on that top 20 tier. Lots of championship games, just not many championships. A few more and might be a different perception. Don't need a gimmicky system, can easily finish in top 3rd of b1g and compete for s16/elite 8 banners with a "traditional" coach. Doesn't mean they don't have their wrinkles and strengths, of course. Gimmicks get busted by even decent teams.
Great points all around. The only thing I'll disagree with is the premise that building a basketball roster is harder than football. There are so fewer players on a basketball team, that if you hit on one or two players, yiu can be good to very good. 3 and you're elite.
Happy indeed! Hosted my wife's fam yesterday, it's my mom's birthday today, so need to call her. Ate too much this weekend, not sure why I decided to have fried chicken for dinner Friday night hahahha.
I have read lots of articles on both sides, as you note (including some Washington commanders hack who is basically shitting all over him), but I haven't seen any proxies debating michigan as a program or legitimacy of the season. If anything, it's the strength of the run game and D that pundits use as JJ not "bring trusted to run the offense" or other such garbage.
I have read lots of articles on both sides, as you note (including some Washington commanders hack who is basically shitting all over him), but I haven't seen any proxies debating michigan as a program or legitimacy of the season. If anything, it's the strength of the run game and D that pundits use as JJ not "bring trusted to run the offense" or other such garbage.
I was thinking the same thing - $600k, wow, didn't he just graduate a few years ago? Didn't realize it was over 20 years ago, time flies! Buts it's really hard to judge position coaches that aren't ace recruiters.
Plus I know every job seems easy if you aren't the one doing it lol. Not that you implied anything like that.
Exactly, if someone doesn't want the b1g and sec having more than one autobid, then remove all autobids so the winners of the scrub conferences have to "earn" it too. Not in top 16 by virtue of your product on the field? Sorry, you didn't "earn" it, or aren't "deserving". Most years it won't even matter, because the b1g and sec would get at least 3 each.
as a diary, someone should look at the final rankings for each year of the CFP and see how many each league would have had, with and without the recent conference alignments. I might even do it, if nobody beats me to it.
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First, thanks for your contributions here. Second, weak sauce for downvoting a different opinion.
that's great if he is a captain. I hope he does really well. My point still stands that talent and bball IQ will buy him playing time, not a sense of loyalty. FYI, most haven't been around campus or the players that post on here, doesn't mean we aren't allowed/qualified to have any opinions.
Mahomes has done pretty well after playing in Texas. I think it's a bit of hyperbole, players adjust pretty easily. Look at players that live in Denver, they adjust to altitude. I don't think it will make a huge difference.
I'll give you his 3 point shooting, but I really doubt loyalty to program is earning any playing time from a new coach turning around a dumpster fire (or any coach, really). The best options to win will play, and I really don't see tschetter getting close to starter minutes. Every other role looks average to great on D, can't have an obvious liability out there because he has grit.
Gach - what is that, Dutch?
Good for you! I'm starting the spark aligners soon, finalizing x-rays next week. Very excited to love my smile for once (although it will take 20 months).
I'm drinking some hazy ipa, some d'usse, and a few great lakes lagers.
+1 informative. however, regarding your last sentence - the article explicitly states that the 2 minute warning timeout will not be a tv time out.
I saw one just today saying he shouldn't even be a first round pick. I mentally blocked the site for all our sake's.
11W and RCMB need to stop trying to make fetch happen.
I was watching the talking heads while at a restaurant for lunch yesterday, and the question was should JJ be a top 5 pick (it was muted, but that was the tag line for the discussion). I couldn't hear (re on mute) and there was no closed captioning, but Stephen A Smith was spouting something off and showed plays of JJ's picks this year. I was like what, he only has 4 and 3 were from BGSU. They even showed the almost INT from the Rose Bowl. Man, these guys try so hard to be controversial, and it worked - my blood was boiling.
What about soft cookies?
Totally agree, I made a similar point above. That's some decent talent, and with good coaching could be just fine.
I know we can't put too much stock in freshman, but couldn't this team be moderately better than a bubble team with the transfers being discussed?
I realize the team was hot garbage this year, but these are pretty decent starters. I'm probably choosing to be overly optimistic, but with good coaching and a little luck, they could get some momentum early. State wasn't even on the bubble with like 18 wins. I know 8 to 18 (or 20!) is a big jump, but this was a historically ass year and some natural reversion to the mean should be expected.
Agree, I never heard any of that in the early to mid 2000s.
Well, you can always say you were just quoting Kindergarten Cop and you'd be just fine! Everyone loves that movie.
"It's not a tumor!"
(This was in response to WCB, hard to follow now)
you seem to be trying to catch everyone in a logic trap here. I don't recall you ever being so negative on anything before, maybe I'm just not remembering (I'm here everyday, though).
Who did you think was the slam dunk hire that UM passed up?
I don't mind the cussin' on message boards, but aggressive statements like "shut the fuck up" are part of what's wrong with message board and key board warriors. Would you say that to someone's face who was having a discussion with you? If so, that's even more problematic, as that's what's leading to the inability to debate or discuss something with nearly anyone in today's world.
I like peeps, but my wife hates them. Anyone else with me?
I tutored Manny and DeShawn one time (as in, one session). It was a Classics class (I was a classics minor). Humble brag, I was the only undergrad who was hired by the university to tutor athletes on the recommendation of a professor, usually it was grad school students. This was a big deal to me at the time, because I usually tutored wrestling and volleyball athletes, not basketball (and football had separate tutors). I haven't told that story in years, and am very grateful for one more retelling lol.
I live in the Chicago burbs, and I can tell you that every ILL fan I have ever met hates Michigan with the fiery passion of a thousands suns. Even more odd, they think they are huge rivals. I'm just fine with them losing.
I'm too lazy to find the Peter Pan bang a rang GIF, but please picture it in your mind's eye.
Happy Friday!
now the only thing I can think of is the scene from Dirty Grandpa where the fat guy puts his man boobs on the windshield and screams DAYTONA BEACH!!!
I'm trying to get to 5K, we are like the tortoise and the hare.
I would think replays would have to be more objective because there is (usually) more clear and obvious answers that are more heavily scrutinized, given the 10 minutes the zebras take to make a call.
You can say that again!
There are over 500k alums. Let's say 50 athletes (5 basketball players/year for 10 years) get preferential/undeserving degrees. Is that really reducing the value of your degree vs the 500k "deserving" grads? I can see on disagreeing on principle, but not in actual perception. I knew someone who was a professor's son (non-athlete), and he didn't know 10th grade math in his sophomore year at UM.
It's hard to maintain even one at an elite level. Some schools have done both (Texas, Florida, osu, UM) for a few years, but nobody can do both consistently, it seems.
So if UM hires a new AD changes their approach, will you go root for another school? You are right that their are plenty of others.
Or would you continue to root for the school you have always rooted for?
I wanted to make a reference to poolhall junkies by "noticing a crease on your pants", but couldn't fit it in seamlessly (so I settled for this pun).
It's not UMs job to be the white knight to save the b12/acc/smaller conferences. They take all the risk, none of the reward. ND felt very slighted by with new playoff format. They will be conference shopping soon enough, methinks. I don't want to trade the other b1g semi-rivalries (Iowa, psu, Wisconsin etc) for NC state, etc. Not to mention the non-football component.
Well that's usually when there are a ton of opt outs and apathy. The upset that derailed UM season was a 2 vs 3. It wasn't a mid major.
In basketball, shooting could be ice cold (ie 3/20 from 3), and just 1 player can take over a game since the same 5 play on O and D vs 22. My point is that liberty and ucf are rarely beating the big dogs, and not 3-4 games in a row. And we have seen that, it's not like "oh I wonder what would happen".
We know what would happen. 2016 wmu lost its bowl game to a 3 loss Wisconsin team. Liberty got shellacked by Oregon this year. Boise state had an epic win against Oklahoma (one of the best games of all time), but it took double OT and every trick play known to man. If they played an Alabama or Georgia or UM equivalent very next week, they probably lose badly, too. Basketball allows in a lot more teams, and can be more flukey. Football isn't analogous.
ND will join a conference in the next 5-7 years. Trying to emulate that would slightly delay the inevitable at a major cost to UM ($$, reputation, rivalries, prestige). Cutting off nose to spite face. No thanks.
We UM have negative 8 wins in that scenario? Because i can't imagine we look back fondly in perhaps the worst UM season ever.
Year 1, maybe so. Keeping Washington, Reed, dug + the 3 recruits may be better than whatever roster UM rolls out next year. But pretty sure in year 5 (or even year 2+) the next coach won't be having perhaps the worst year ever in the program. That's just...ugh. it's abysmal.
That's what she said...
UM may not be a blue blood, but they have quite a history and are on that top 20 tier. Lots of championship games, just not many championships. A few more and might be a different perception. Don't need a gimmicky system, can easily finish in top 3rd of b1g and compete for s16/elite 8 banners with a "traditional" coach. Doesn't mean they don't have their wrinkles and strengths, of course. Gimmicks get busted by even decent teams.
Great points all around. The only thing I'll disagree with is the premise that building a basketball roster is harder than football. There are so fewer players on a basketball team, that if you hit on one or two players, yiu can be good to very good. 3 and you're elite.
fully support Dug doing what is best for Dug, but the pic with the loyalty tat is a little ironic. I get his coach is out and all that.
Happy indeed! Hosted my wife's fam yesterday, it's my mom's birthday today, so need to call her. Ate too much this weekend, not sure why I decided to have fried chicken for dinner Friday night hahahha.
Lololol
Bang bang bang! 3rd time is the charm!!
I have read lots of articles on both sides, as you note (including some Washington commanders hack who is basically shitting all over him), but I haven't seen any proxies debating michigan as a program or legitimacy of the season. If anything, it's the strength of the run game and D that pundits use as JJ not "bring trusted to run the offense" or other such garbage.
I have read lots of articles on both sides, as you note (including some Washington commanders hack who is basically shitting all over him), but I haven't seen any proxies debating michigan as a program or legitimacy of the season. If anything, it's the strength of the run game and D that pundits use as JJ not "bring trusted to run the offense" or other such garbage.
I was thinking the same thing - $600k, wow, didn't he just graduate a few years ago? Didn't realize it was over 20 years ago, time flies! Buts it's really hard to judge position coaches that aren't ace recruiters.
Plus I know every job seems easy if you aren't the one doing it lol. Not that you implied anything like that.
But can he throw a football without hands?
Exactly, if someone doesn't want the b1g and sec having more than one autobid, then remove all autobids so the winners of the scrub conferences have to "earn" it too. Not in top 16 by virtue of your product on the field? Sorry, you didn't "earn" it, or aren't "deserving". Most years it won't even matter, because the b1g and sec would get at least 3 each.
as a diary, someone should look at the final rankings for each year of the CFP and see how many each league would have had, with and without the recent conference alignments. I might even do it, if nobody beats me to it.
10% of the population, not bad 😉
Happy happy birthday!
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All aboard the bang train!
Love the vanity plate
Wouldn't UM be the cuckold in this analogy, not the conference?
Edit: replying to Franz, hard to tell on this site