Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
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|5 years 23 weeks ago||I don't expect a board free||
I don't expect a board free of idiots. The best I can hope for is a tone set to marginalize the idiocy.
The problem is that the opinion has been based previously on copius amounts of analysis and thought. The ESPN scroll says that Hoke is 47-50. It's a complex situation with good aspects and bad aspects. Simplifying the discussion does it no justice on either side. This simplification in turn leads to even more simplified analysis on the boards or worse, just parroting Brian's ideas.
I was all for Rodriguez. I still wanted him to stay, even when the evidence was building at the end of the year. I have reservations about Hoke. I can also see the reason a change was necessary. It isn't a worry about the opinion expressed, which I have agreed with Brian on more than not, but the simplifications made to back up the arguments.
|5 years 23 weeks ago||I think that the response||
I think that the response that Meeeechigan Dan is getting speaks volumes. Wendyk5, JimHarbaughScramble, and the others that go back to the haloscan days understand what the OP is saying. There is a problem with the boards and it takes someone to stand up and say it. I wouldn't advocate taking your ball and going home, but something has gone wrong.
|5 years 23 weeks ago||I hear you||
From one old poster to another, I completely understand what you are saying. I haven't written much in years, but I enjoyed our discussions a couple of years ago, especially the halo scan days. You have been one of the original contributors (though won't miss the avatar).
I am not going to quit the site as you are suggesting you are doing. However, I understand your feeling. The banner especially is beneath what this site is about. I think Brian is a brilliant writer. I have enjoyed the addition of TomVH and the growth of the professionalism of the site. However, the tone has devolved.
|6 years 38 weeks ago||You are right. I think that||
You are right. I think that there are misinterpretations all the time, and I get that. But the point is to post less, have something to say, and lay off the negativity. And ironically, do it under 1,000 words, which clearly I could not.
|6 years 38 weeks ago||Good post and good topic||
I have listened quietly for a long time now, and this just typifies why the posting has devolved. UMIndy, this is a fine post. Don't let the negativity get to you. In the past, the quality posters like Meeechigan Dan, Jaime Mac, Jim Harbaugh Scramble, Kgh, Magnus, etc... would respectfully discuss the safety play of both teams and if there wasn't much to say then leave it alone.
Some of the people who have the highest points somehow feel emboldened to give their opinion on the quality of post instead of enhancing the discussion. So let's say it is a bad post (which this clearly isn't), do you add to the replies so that people will click on the thread because they think there is a discussion ongoing. Or should you leave it as a 1 reply thread that we can ignore. If you have over 3,000 points, you might want to consider if you actually have 3,000 points worth of things to say. Saying that you should look something up on the internet instead of discussing it here, kind of misses the point.
How can our desperate need at safety/ corner, combined with our rollercoaster recruitment of a top player at our position of need with whom we were leading for, followed by his spurning us for a hated coach (at the time because of his lobbying against Carr in 06), followed by a transfer into a Big Ten school not named Michigan, and his disappearing act at a position which would have been the key at stopping the big plays which defined this past Saturday's game, not be a relevant topic for discussion. We are a couple of linebackers/ corners away from being a top ten team. Finch and RoJo were two big fish (among others) that got away which would have completed the team. Should Brian not have discussed the recruiting failings that left us in the position that we are in today. Finch was a major part of that. We have had some decent classes but a couple of key positions have had major late disappointments. This is why we are a good but not great team.
I am interested to hear if Finch just doesn't have it and the recruiting hype was all wet. Or did the injury slow him down to the point that he can't play at the one position (Indiana safety) which is historically the worst in the Big Ten. I defy you to find a worse position. IU's lack of athletic ability has always been most evident in their safety play. Seems to still be true today by the big plays we had, some which were slow to develop around the corner but still broke to the house.
If you don't like this topic, how about worst position at any big ten school. I would be interested if my analysis of IU safety is actually the worst. Purdue seems to have good D ends/ outside linebackers, but no one in the middle. Iowa always seems to have underachieving receivers.
|7 years 2 weeks ago||OT: Ibanez - just trying it out||
What's your take on the blogger and Ibanez. I just watched two reporters badger a blogger on ESPN OTL because he said that players that are having career years late in their careers are under suspicion. I think this fairly summarizes what every baseball fan thinks. Ken Rosenthal came across really poorly.
IMO, As a voice of the fan a blog is expected to say things that the MSM wouldn't. I would be interested in what you think should have been done in this case. I tend to side with the blogger.
|7 years 9 weeks ago||what if?||
Let's just entertain for a second that USC is rampantly cheating and that the meteoric rise is because of illicit activities. Where do you think our program is if we did not have to run into USC in the Rose Bowl in 2004 and 2007. Let's just say that we had more Washington State-like foes, like in 97-98.
Do these seasons end in wins and a generally better feeling throughout the program? Or do you think we end up at the same point with Rodriguez at the helm. Not that it matters, but I found it interesting to day dream. I think the 2007 victory would have defined that as a great season that would have lingered in the fans memories for a while.
|7 years 13 weeks ago||It isn't that they are just||
It isn't that they are just renting players, it is that I suspect that they are the type of players that are handled by agents and funnelled to certain types of programs. I have nothing to back this up with, other than Calipari's shady past and current success. The Uconn story is shady, an my first reaction is that there are other programs that seem much more suspicious than them. USC and Memphis first came to mind.
Since there do not seem to be rental schools in the Big Ten, it hurts us as a league.
I see Calipari as the polar opposite of Beilein. I hope he goes to Kentucky and flames out.
|7 years 13 weeks ago||semi OT - I hope Memphis turns into Iowa||
Didn't want to start a full new thread, but I realize it's a bit of a non-sequitir. While I watch Memphis on TV, it reminds me that this is the team I would most like to see go through an Iowa-like implosion.
I think that the possible Uconn investigation is affecting Memphis more than it did Uconn. Since the first two rows behind the Mepmphis bench are probably agents of some sort, I suspect they are playing nervous that this revelation will start a crackdown of sorts. They stand the most to lose as, to me, they are the posterchild for NCAA basketball gone wrong. (And yes, this is hyperbole).
I beleive they might have 3 of the top 5 players in next year's class. Ugh. Rent-a-player for 1 year.
|7 years 13 weeks ago||tg for the half point||
I bet you're grateful for the half point on the Okie state game. Otherwise it would have been even worse. Started off so well for you.
|7 years 14 weeks ago||UCLA, you disappoint me||
Chally, we have all been wrong before. No sweat, I like that you put your opinon out there for all to see (you know it will be attacked in some way). UCLA did not look remotely like a team coached by Howland. I thought they would lose (in a close one like yourself), but didn't expect them to give up and look heartless. I will say that playing a road game in the tournament is not fair.
Makes me worry about Purdue later today. Purdue may have had the worst seeding of a big ten tournament champ since it's inception (not just the seed but the location).
I just have to wonder if Collison is more hurt than we thought. Jrue Holliday has to be teh biggest freshman disappointment, or am I missing someone?
|7 years 14 weeks ago||Matta should have fouled at||
Matta should have fouled at the end of the first overtime. I know it is debatable but in that situation I think it was more obvious than normal. Sienna had momentum and just seemed to be ready to make the shot.
|7 years 14 weeks ago||I like Purdue in that game.||
I like Purdue in that game. I think that Painter will find a way to defend the big guys and Kramer will shut down the "little Zeke".
Kramer versus an inexperienced point guard equals Big Ten style victory. If Isiah Thomas is shut down, then Purdue can focus on collapsing inside. Of course the location isn't ideal but I think they overcome (the horrible seed and location).
I am still in shock that Ohio State managed to give that game away, while Wisconsin absolutely steals one from a much better Florida State team. Overall, I think that it ended up a push for you. The next three wins are somewhat difficult to find. Purdue with MSU twice? Purdue, MSU, and an upset? Or Michigan wins and I stop caring because everything ceases to matter anymore because of how happy I will be. I can see it happening but I'm just happy to be here.
|7 years 14 weeks ago||Bad shot by Turner. He's a||
Bad shot by Turner. He's a good player but I don't like his game. He never even looked at anyone else during the overtime.
|7 years 14 weeks ago||The big ten is at least||
The big ten is at least making it interesting. I wouldn't have cared much about these games if it wasn't for Digger Phelps.
Big Ten is 2 and 0 against the ACC. Beat two good teams too.
OSU can not let that kid shoot an open three with 4 seconds left. He was wide open. Beilein >> Matta (except perhaps in a living room talking to recruits).
|7 years 14 weeks ago||The Big Ten prop bet has||
The Big Ten prop bet has swung back and forth 10 times in the past 5 minutes. Both games are tied as I write this.
|7 years 16 weeks ago||I am still trying to figure||
I am still trying to figure out how a Hoosier can care this much about Michigan hoops. I am not complaining. More please.
|7 years 17 weeks ago||I am surprised to hear some||
I am surprised to hear some say that we might need three more victories, while ESPN is saying the Purdue win puts us in (which I realize is a boldfaced lie. And when did it become ok to flat out lie on television to hype a game.) Even people that follow this closely though seem to differ in the number of games that we need between two or three.
Can someone (i.e. jamiemac) recap our tournament resume in depth, since depth seems to be his thing. From what I can tell, we are 4 and 5 against ranked teams, though Espn has us at 3 and 4 in the recap of last night's game (I count Purdue, Illinois, Duke, UCLA versus Uconn, Duke, MSU, Purdue, Illinois). The big ten is 2nd overall in rpi, which should help. Michigan's rpi is ok, but not great if I recall. I still hope that they give us the de facto win over Indiana at home that our schedule took from us (what did Brian call it, a Functional DNP (and yes I realize what happened in that game)). I've heard the win over Northeastern could help but they are now second or third in their league. No marquee road wins are a factor.
What else am I missing?
|7 years 17 weeks ago||Kudos again||
You, sir, are good at what you do. Maybe it's not for everyone and a bit deeper than other people want, but there are some, like me, that appreciate every detail. There is so much going on in college basketball that it is easy to glaze over when looking at the scoreboard.
Question to Jamie Mac (or anyone), do you think that the selection committee is sophisticated enough to account for the fact that we played Indiana only once (and on the road at that). If we finish tied with Ohio State (or Wiscy or Penn State) or even one game back, do they account for strength of league schedule. Particularly when there is an anomalous team like IU (sorry to say it to you but they are really terrible this year, even if playing hard). Or do they look at league record only?
|7 years 17 weeks ago||good to see||
I don't know what I expected the recruiting experience to be like, but I had hoped it was what was on those tapes. That is at once wholesome and impressive without being overly cheesy. Wide-eyed players experiencing the campus and the coaches with thier families, soaking up the experience and the history. Good stuff.
|7 years 21 weeks ago||Jamie Mac, This is the most||
This is the most informative info posted all day. Suprised there weren't more hits.
Just a suggestion, I think the hoops blog umhoops.com could use some analysis like this (i.e. what other games are on that could effect the UM bball team). I think that he is having trouble keeping up with all of the features that he is running by himself and could use some info like this added in some way. Just a thought. I of course come here first for info, but the basketball stuff over there is deeper than here.
Either way, I say you continue it. I can't afford to put much action down, so I can live vicariously through you.
|7 years 24 weeks ago||So the response to getting a||
So the response to getting a taunting penalty is to say that is the first time he has ever done anything wrong.
This is sickening. I hate Tebow to no fault of his own.
|7 years 24 weeks ago||So are the Big 12 defenses||
So are the Big 12 defenses that bad or is this an anomoly?
|7 years 24 weeks ago||I want to have that quote by||
I want to have that quote by the commentator so that when I win a bet with my wife she has to pull it out and read it.
"He is just an AMAZING man. Lived in orpahanages, lived with lepers...."
|7 years 24 weeks ago||Get out of bounds man.||
Get out of bounds man.
|7 years 24 weeks ago||JHS, Lions need to draft||
Lions need to draft interior (O or D). I am in the Orlovsky camp. It is a bit lonely.
Maybe this game mkes us realize we don't want a QB (I hate Stafford by the way).
|7 years 24 weeks ago||You mean a touchdown would be||
You mean a touchdown would be baad here. Thanks commentator
|7 years 24 weeks ago||So Lions fans (JHS, others),||
So Lions fans (JHS, others), which of these quarterbacks do you want? I was really hoping Bradford was great and we coudl trade down. Not happening now.
|7 years 24 weeks ago||I wish I was at this||
I wish I was at this game...
to try to catch the millions of dollars which are flying out of Bradford's pocket. As a Lions fan, Do Not Want.
|7 years 24 weeks ago||Anyone think that these||
Anyone think that these commercials for ATT are low grade snuff films.